/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10524811
Is there any evidence his intellectual capacity remains after his mental breakdown?

Did he get an IQ test after incarceration?

I'm pretty sure no respected prison would allow a lab to exist inside it's facilities for security reasons.

>>10524832
I'm not sure. He neglected his studies after becoming crazy though.

>>10524867
I'd imagine it would work in a similar way to a military lab that handles stuff like anthrax. The entrances/exits would be monitored and controlled so that only Holmes can enter and not the other prisoners. There would be a patting down process similar to airports so that nothing dangerous leaves the lab. Holmes' research assistants would also be prison staff and would keep a close eye on him as he does his experiments and report back to the prison warden.

>>10524811
Did you research this nigga after lurking the "what is the scientific explanation for school shootings" thread?

Also, you have all the psychiatric interviews he had at jail back in 2014 at this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2YWyLdX3NU

>>10524811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5oVUqFF_mU
A science presentation by James Holmes in 2006
He seems anxious but just trying to fit in.

>>10524897
No, I've always been interested in geniuses.

I think it's stupid that our prison system automatically assumes that prisoners are only good for menial labor. I mean, most of them probably are but not all. It seems like a waste to let a genius mind that could literally provide society with the cure for Alzheimer's or a solution to the Millennium Prize problems rot with the others.

>ctrl + f
>no mentions of mk ultra
Shit thread

>>10524811
>genius
>field was in neuroscience
lol

>>10525035
is tooker our terry davis?

>>10524931
Your prison system is privately owned. The only way they'd ever allow research shit like this is if they were going to profit. It's not really certain they would profit, which they wouldn't. Guy is probably medicated beyond intelligence anyway.

>>10525064
I don't know but if you can be a genius at "neuroscience" then you can also be a genius at running a cash register or digging ditches

>>10525035
https://youtu.be/UUEJ_nWjYAU
Music is way too high, we cant hear what you have to say
next time you record a video dont put a song over it

>>10525078
Yeah I get your point
Why that "TIMESAND" filename for your pic tho?

>>10525064
tooker was created by crispr'ing terry's schizo genes into a clone of vsauce, but unfortunately it turned out a little off

>>10525099
kek

>>10524811
If you went on a killing spree or some other life-sentencing crime, you don't deserve to contribute to society. I don't care if you're a high IQ professor or a street beggar, by committing a crime to that degree you have made the decision that the rest of humanity is better off without you included. That's not to say that I don't believe in rehabilitation, but if you're in there for life then you're too far gone.

>>10524897
OK am I crazy or is talking about anarcho_capitalism?

https://youtu.be/F2YWyLdX3NU?t=2100

>>10525119
You should start by the first interview tho.
https://youtu.be/f21NHriNqws
That one you were watching was the 16th

>>10525112
Holmes killed 12 people but if he discovered the cure for Alzheimer's or Parkinson's then he'd save the lives of millions more. It would be the best way for him to give back to society.

>>10525139
Maybe he should have cared about that before the whole mass homicide thing. Clearly he valued one over the other, and now he faces the consequences.

>>10525139
He shouldve thought about that before deciding to murder people.

>>10524832
>another IQ post

>>10524811
None of what you've listed is really that extraordinary. There are probably over a hundred people of equal or greater demonstrated ability who don't have access to even remotely the same privileges you are proposing for a criminal.

Extralegal measures have been demonstrated in the past for individuals of rare ability but this person is not rare enough to justify the treatment.

>>10525242
>Extralegal measures have been demonstrated in the past for individuals of rare ability
Any notable examples?

>>10525295
WWII researchers. The inventor of AED's in Soviet Russia as well.

>>10524811
Why not just give him a computer and have him do remote programming or remote work on lab research rather than building a fucking criminal his own private lab?

Most PhD researchers don't have their own private labs, let alone a mentally unstable criminal one.

>>10524832
>/sci/ has an unusual obsession with IQ tests
On /int/ it was always arguments over what does and does not constitute whiteness, and rankings of that attribute.

Back when I used to visit /tv/ people really liked posting 'conny' , it was just a girl eating French fries or standing around.

I wonder what /mu/ and /lit/'s memes are.

>>10525385
Those are memes and autism. Most of sci is literally just hyperretarded and can’t comprehend that iq tests are fallible.

>>10525295
What >>10525338 said. Operation paperclip isn't exactly secret anymore.

>>10525338
>WWII researchers. The inventor of AED's in Soviet Russia as well.
The Russian inventor was a POW, wasn't he? I'm not sure if you could compare that to a mentally ill civilian who murdered innocent citizens. These seem to be in the context of conflict rather than purely criminal acts. Same with the researchers, except in reverse where instead of giving more liberty to the perpetrators, the victims are getting exploited further.

>>10525608
I forget where I read it. I think maybe it was Naum Lazarevich Gurvich or someone similar. Maybe some other invention than defibrillation as well. But the scientist was soviet born, and despite the government being suspicious of them, the Soviets decided not to send him/her to the gulag for treason because he/she was too valuable.

But no, not a mentally ill civillian who committed murder. And to my point, I think if anything, they should put this guy to work on a computer.

>>10524811
bump

>>10524811
>is a crisis actor who is helping push an agenda that is leading us to an orwellian superstate

>>10525099
It's more of a liquid snake/revolver ocelot/liquid ocelot situation

>>10524811
This guy's accomplishments aren't even that great...it says that his project at the internship at the Salk institute (which many others participated in) wasn't even finished. And then he went to UC Riverside, which isn't exactly an amazing school. And everyone gets a "scholarship" if they go into a PhD program, it's called a stipend. Nobody should be doing an unpaid PhD.

This guy is only as smart as every other PhD student; he isn't some "genius". He's probably even less smart than the average PhD student, as he couldn't handle the workload. Not every sort of smart crazy guy is a "genius".

>>10525832
based

>>10524811
>dyed hair
there is the problem senpai

The guy wasn't mentally ill, he was a targeted individual.
BTW Uncle Ted was an MKULTRA subject, this has been confirmed.

>>10524867
Yes for obvious reasons.

But I just got released from prison myself. And I managed to build a working scale (to weigh mass), a thermometer, and a gravity meter (to measure earths gravity at it's surface.
Pic related. It's my scale.

>>10525870
bro=snpai?

>>10525960
f a m

>>10524924
This guy seems like a normal student. I wonder what he's up to nowadays.

>>10524811
he realized we live in clown world.

>>10526210
Clown world is just a speck of dust.

>>10525035
Based Tooker is back

>>10524931
You'd still have to take in account that this guy genius or not might not have the best interest of humanity in mind.

>>10524811
Honk Honk!

>>10524811
He grasped the scientific concept of his studies in depth, he wasn't ready for the philosophical implications. Once he understood that, he broke.

you just described a good student, and that makes you think he's a genius

>>10526688

do you have any idea of the philosophical implications of his work? didn't he just work on neuroscience?

>>10524811
>it seems like a waste letting his intellect rot away in prison
I mean maybe if he killed one person yeah give him parole and a job after 20 years but the guy was a mass killer dressed as Batman.

>>10524897
Sounds like he reasoned himself into sociopathy.
It is not clear whether he was always a sociopath
or whether some mental breakdown (possibly due to failing at school) started him along that path.

>>10525627
I think they took Korolev out of the Gulag for the same reason
>>10525295
They gave the Birdman of Alcatraz books and bird specimens but they didn't let him out.

>>10526792
He also stated that he wished to annihilate the whole of humanity and not even slightly joking.
I doubt he would give a shit about science at this point.

>>10524867
As I said Alcatraz gave the Birdman a lab to conduct ornithology research.
>>10525112
I agree that a mass killing is kind of too far for redemption but I hate that you can do a million good things but the minute you do one bad thing suddenly all the good things you did are ignored.

>>10525940
that's pretty cool

>>10526774
Exactly. He was a "how" person. An exceptional "how" person, I'll admit, but in his silence, in his studies, the looming question of why, crept into his brain. Why is he studying? Why is the brain? Why does it matter? Studying these neurons, these molecules, these atoms, these niche little things that matter so little to the outside world? These little things, of which I am made?
Queue long list of unanswered questions leading to frustration and insanity.

"What is a man? But a miserable pile of DNA sequence..."

>>10526834
Give me that thing... your neuron soul...

>>10525204
>Maybe he should have cared about that

He doesn't...Do You?

>>10525119
>>10525130
danm I can't even finnish, he is just mentally unhealthy. you can literally see it and you can hear it. all this shootings are just copycat triggered reaction from "mentally unheathy" individuals. the interesting thing for me is that this is happening now when the US has always been a "easy on guns" country, (btw i'm not form the US and I'm not stating there was no gun violence at all before but mass shootings was definetely not "a thing" like it is now)

>>10525112
Yeah. That's why we shouldn't use rocket technology since it was designed by a Nazi.

>>10524811
>UC denver

oh you poor soul...

>>10525832
Yeah what the hell is this thread. What has he accomplished in terms of academic output? Nothing. He was just smart enough to get accepted into a second rate PhD program, like hundreds of thousands of other people in the US. The only difference is that this guy is nuts.

At least the Unabomber was somewhat of a child prodigy, as he went to Harvard when he was 16. This guy is just slightly above average intelligence