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10522033 No.10522033 [Reply] [Original]

Are we gonna die if we don't support the right policies?

>> No.10522403

>>10522033
we're gonna die anyways, OP

>> No.10523295

>>10522033
Pretty much. Global population is rising while we're annihilating the world's carrying capacity. We're basically microbes eating up all the resources and poisoning themselves in a petri dish.

>> No.10523297

>>10522033
Oh and also: those warnings based on the IPCC reports don't take into account a lot of the positive feedbacks that are really going to fuck us hard.

>> No.10523302

>>10522033

Nothing lasts forever

>> No.10523305

>>10523297
>really going to fuck us hard
Whatever happened to the whole Earth-chan thing? Hentai of this when?

>> No.10524275

>>10522033
So, your argument, if I understand the reason for posting that chart, is that CO2 has nothing to do with temperature because over time temperature continues to fluctuate seemingly independent of total CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere.

Correct?

You are of course ignoring solar output and if you're posting that chart you must then explain The Faint Young Sun Paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faint_young_Sun_paradox

ball is in your court.

>> No.10524306

>>10524275
It's the same old co2 lags temperature argument. Which is utterly useless because it makes no attempt at explaining why this is the case, it just says things happened this way in the past things must happen this way in the future, completely ignoring the fact that the mechanism for co2 increasing is entirely different. Pure stupidity.

>> No.10524478

>>10524306
CO2 lags temperature historically because it wasn't the initial cause of past climatic changes.Why is this so hard for people to understand?
There are many factors that can change the climate. CO2 is ONE of them. In cases where it isn't the initial cause, it acts as a positive feedback mechanism (like methane is today).
Difference is, CO2 IS the initial cause of the current warming.

>> No.10524527

>>10522403
/thread... hopefully

Discussions of political philosophy are not really on topic here.

>> No.10524556

What’s the Malthusian crisis eta? 2070 or something?

>> No.10524603
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10524603

>>10524556
@ 450ppm co2 subtropics will lose 50-75% of their rain
subtropics is 23...40 lat, this is where all of the world's current bread baskets are
at the current pace 450ppm will happen in 2030, 11 years from now
of course, plenty of shit is happening already

>> No.10524642

>>10524603
>450ppm co2 subtropics will lose 50-75% of their rain
>subtropics is 23...40 lat
Would love a source on this.
Also, what are you doing to prepare?