/sci/ - Science & Math

It's true though.

>>10508798
>It's not your alcoholism that causes divorce, it's marriage.

>>10508798
But the current doesn't exist without the voltage, therefore it is the voltage.

>>10508878
and voltage can't exist without current

>>10508878
but you can survive with high voltage if the resistance is high. You cannot survive is the current is high. One defines the other, the reverse isnt true.

>>10508798
Isn't it wierd that this idiot masters stealing charlton still has a show after the credible sex assault charge, but niggas like Weinstein who were straight up banging whores for jobs which isnt legal but isnt rally sexual assault just prostitution are still in jail?

>>10508886
Brainlet of the year award goes to.....

>>10508813
no it's patently not dumbass, although this is a two part argument so read both points before replying like a dumb fucking retard:

1. touching both terminals of a 12v car battery which can put out hundreds of amps wont kill you because the battery doesnt have the voltage to drive the current through the high resistance of your body

2. static electricity can be over 20,000 volts but it wont kill you because it discharges in less than a microsecond. a large leyden jar charged to 1000 volts would only carry a millijoule of energy. in other words, there's not enough stored energy to kill you. idiots will tell you that static electricity doesnt drive large currents through your body.but they are demonstrably wrong.


In conclusion: Not only do you need both a large enough voltage to generate a large enough current, but the current needs to be over a long enough amount of time. Thus, "it's the current that kills you" is patently false as you can have arbitrarily high currents that discharge in less than a microsecond that won't do shit to you. You need a large enough current over a long enough time.

QED dumb ass fucking brainlets

>>10508901
V = IR

>>10508900
>Credible sex assault charges

No such thing

>>10508903
So what you're saying is that it's the current that kills you, not the voltage?

>>10508906
My God you sure are stupid

>>10508798
B-b-but but current is related to voltage by Ohm's law. So in order to have a lot of current pass through you, you must have enough voltage to do so.

>>10508926
Can you read? You can have arbitrarily high currents through your body and not die. “Current” as a separate entity doesn’t kill you. Current over a long enough time does.

If you are too retarded to see a difference between amps/second then you must also be too retarded to see the difference between current and charge because current is charge/second

In which case by your logic it’s the charge that kills you (which is literally my argument)

QED

>>10508798
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>>10508878
It's the POWER that kills you

>>10508933
not an argument

>>10508942
>You can have arbitrarily high currents through your body and not die
Not really.

>>10508886
>>10508950
Voltage literally can exist without current. Hold a 9 V battery in your hand. There are 9 volts over the terminals and no current flowing. QED you are an absolute retard.

>>10508942
How long do you think it takes a deadly current to kill you? You're just saying it's not current it's current*time but that's kind of pedantic.

>>10508926
Getting a static shock can send several hundred amps through your body, but it's for such a short time that the energy is so low, it doesn't do anything.

So can we all agree, that energy is actually what kills you?

>>10508966
>sun imparts 100s of watts onto your body or so while outside
>10W of AC electricity can kill you

>>10508966
No. It's going to be one of 3 things.

1. A noose
3. Alcohol
5. Wolves

>>10508969
Heat and electricysite are 2 different fornds of energy. Dumas,b

>>10508956
Not him but
>Voltage literally can exist without current
True
>Hold a 9 V battery in your hand. There are 9 volts over the terminals and no current flowing.
The current is flowing, it's just too small to be perceptible

>>10508974
light is an electric wave you retard

>>10508798
it's not the measure of the electricity that kills you, it's the electricity itself

>>10508976
It's not the same, retadr

>>10508975
Why can't the average /schizo/ realize this without being told?

>>10508980
>hurr durr u wrongg
nice argument u babbling neaderthal

>>10508983
Good retort nigger. (zero neanderthal)

>>10508975
True, maybe a better example is a battery in a vacuum?

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>>10508878
>It's the height that kills you, not the fall. The fall can't exist without the height.

>>10508798
>apply a large voltage
>lots of electrons get accelerated
>you die

>>10508878
brainlet

>>10508878
imagine being this dumb

>>10508798
If they accelerate protons at the LHC with electromagnets and I step inside the chamber: am I dying to an electric current without a voltage?

So can we all agree it's electricity that kills and the object providing the electricity? That is to say, we should ban all guns?

>>10508906
no, U = IR

>>10508886
Lmao nice job ousting yourself as a brainlet broski. Did you get that degree devry University? Better yet full sail?

>>10508991
Neither the height or fall kill you, it's the sudden stop at the end. It's the large change in velocity over a short period of time.

>>10508906
Oh look the brainlet googled a formula. Nice.

>>10508956
This is how you ruin a brainlet.

>>10509101
It's not the acceleration that kills you, it's the deformation caused to tissues and interruption of bodily processes it causes.

>>10509024
haha

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>>10508989
>The current is flowing, it's just too small to be perceptible
this isn't necessarily true as your body isnt just a big resistor (and real life isn't ideal). when modeling static electricity a human is represented as a capacitor of 100 picofarads. moreover, air doesn't have infinite resistance. in spite of that, that doesn't mean a battery still has a current flowing into and out of it in some sort of closed-air circuit. air and the human body have breakdown voltages, which a 9V battery isn't strong enough to bypass.

>>10508958
>that's pedantic
If you can read, it's not pedantic at all. In fact you idiots saying that "it's current that kills, not voltage" are being nothing but pedantic. To repeat myself, current is coulombs per second. If you think "current over time" is pedantic, in spite of the fact that arbitrarily high currents won't kill you, then you must also think "coulombs per second" is also pedantic and thus you must believe it's charge that kills which, again, is false

>>10508954
Durr no shit, and you guys are the same dumbfucks crying about me being pedantic. "Arbitrarily high" as in hundreds of thousands of times higher than the amount of current that can stop your heart.

>>10509117
I just meant to say it's kind of implied that it's not just a short burst of current. It's touching live wires, they arent going to run out of charge like a static shock. Also if you want to be more exact isn't it how the current moves through your body over time? Current across your heart flowing from hand to hand is more deadly than current avoiding your heart and going say hand to foot.

>>10508945
this

>>10508945
thank u dog

>>10509038
>That is to say, we should ban all guns?
But maybe just hold sellers accountable to run federal background checks against folks they're providing firearms to.

>>10508798
It's actually the friction that kills you

>>10509107
It's not the voltage that kills you, it's the lack of oxygen to your brain

>>10508798
It's actually the resistance that kills you. 1 volt applied across your heart with 1 ohm of resistance = dead

>>10508900
>credible
"If I call it credible, that means it's true. Any allegation is proof of guilt."

>>10508798
extremely high voltage can kill you. Extremely high voltage in the megavolt range can accelerate electrons such that they become beta radiation. The 'current' necessary to kill you by exposure to lethal amounts of beta radiation can be quite low. Especially since you can accumulate a lethal dose of radiation over an hour or day.

>>10508903
Congrats, you earned the retard of the thread award.

>>10508798
Everyone in this thread is a fucking idiot.

>>10510662
Second-to-last post best post

>>10508942
>You can have arbitrarily high currents through your body and not die
bullllllllllllllllshit

>>10510664
ha-ha

>>10508933
Where's your math? I say you are the brainlet.

>>10508878
And you wouldn't be there to die if your parents hadn't existed, therefore your parents kill you.

>>10508798
it's the amps

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>>10508798
it is actually the resistance

>>10509107
It's not the tissue, it's the chemical reaction atoms undergo when exposed to the pressure and energy of the acceleration

>>10510847
Go away negro

Pressure differences in the electromagnetic field sure do kill you.

>its not the niggers that kill you its the guns