/sci/ - Science & Math

Pretty much, yeah

The biggest threat to the enviroment is enviromental activists whose constant hyperbole has discredited them in the eyes of the normal citizen making their cries for action in a time of desperate need fall on deaf ears.

lmao i was the STS poster in that thread.
question, why is pol so fucking stupid when it comes to that shit?

>>10507018
>why is pol so fucking stupid
Why is water wet

I see it as a consequence of the amazing freedom american people have. They can say whatever the fuck they want = stupids on full display. Stupid people are everywhere, its just that they are shut the fuck up before they can complete their incoherent sentences. Which is good and bad, more bad.

>>10507018
>giant part that says CANADA on it
We need to replace that shit with something 10x better stat. If there's one thing I learned from Chris Hadfield it's that canadians in space are pure stage-4 cancer.

Science denial exists everywhere. People in America believe vaccines cause autism, people in South Africa believe HIV/AIDS doesn't exist, people in China believe elephant ivory will give them good luck and resistance to diseases

>>10506750
more like a waste of resources, time and money. people feel like they HAVE to go to college (probably cause they sort of do), so they waste those three things just to get a degree for a job

>>10507018
Based STS poster, always good to see you show up in the FE threads to spread some positive images

>>10507018
Groups actively target pol because there are very few people there that have any knowledge regarding science or history, making it easy to convert them, especially if you frame it with jews. Hence why you get holocaust denial and flat earth threads where all it takes are few "inconsistencies" despite overwhelming evidence, generating doubt on the whole issue.

>>10507614
b-but muh wooden doors!!

>>10507614
>Hence why you get holocaust denial and flat earth threads where all it takes are few "inconsistencies" despite overwhelming evidence, generating doubt on the whole issue.
I hate it when conspiracy theorists find an "inconsistency" and latch on to it. You'd show them that the inconsistency is exactly what's expected by reality, but they'll ignore it simply because the explanation isn't immediately intuitive and thus there MUST be a conspiracy.
An example of this was when I ran into a moon hoaxer who used the fact that there was a dialog of the Apollo 11 astronauts rehearsing for a tv interview during their flight to the moon as evidence for a conspiracy. His reasoning is that the crew was rehearsing for a staged interview since to him practicing for interview was "odd". He completely ignored that the Apollo 11 crew were at the time the most important men for American national pride and thus would make sense for them to practice so that they don't slip up on live television and accidentally embarrass themselves. Absolutely ridiculous.

>>10507643
Also the people who post the after-mission press conference as "proof" that they didn't go to the moon because "they don't look happy", despite the fact that they'd just spent 21 days locked in a tiny quarantine trailer.

>>10507675
>despite the fact that they'd just spent 21 days locked in a tiny quarantine trailer.
On top of that, I recall that the press conferences were really long. Anyone would look unhappy if subjected to that.

>>10507675
>>10507643
Also I'm currently in an argument with someone who thinks spacesuits are fake because the one video NASA released of them testing a pressure suit in a vacuum chamber ended in failure. I provided him clear evidence of materials being able to withstand much higher pressure differentials than that experienced by the average spacesuit but he seems to think the vacuum of space is some sort of insta-death super sucking zone or something

see https://archived.moe/sci/thread/10417963

>>10506750
I find it ironic as American that we have the best military tech in the world and yet we have factions if citizens who believe the earth is flat. Sometimes I wonder if fascism truly is the answer...

America is too far gone. They are a threat to everyone and everything, including themselves and their families.

>>10507689
Of*

>>10507689
your problem here is that fascist americans are THE MOST likely to be science deniers and conspiracytards. white supremacists (you know like that dude who shot up kiwi muslims) are exactly the type to relish in "elite academics are [[[cultural marxists]]], they're in a giant conspiracy to destroy western civilization". they are the most anti-science inasmuch as they accuse scientists of being in a secret plot to destroy white men (even patriotic white male american scientists like me are assumed to be in on this imaginary conspiracy)

>>10507689
Congress and the POTUS should not be allowed to act in any manner that goes against scientific consensus, wherever it exists.

>>10507683
>he seems to think the vacuum of space is some sort of insta-death super sucking zone or something
I blame movies. Yes, the vacuum of space is dangerous and requires different design processes that what most people are used to (ex: out-gassing), but it's not impossible to deal with.

There's a popular YouTube conspiracy theorist who's evidence that the ISS doesn't exist because apparently the o-rings needed to seal the cupola shutters would fail due to them needing to hold back the vacuum of space. Completely ignoring that (1) o-rings that can deal with greater pressure differences exist (I've even worked with them so I know they exist), (2) the shutters aren't operated that often IIRC so wear wouldn't be that bad. His "evidence" ignores the every other piece of evidence that the ISS does exist including seeing it with his own eyes.

Yes, this theorist who said that the ISS doesn't exist has not only seen it with his own eyes, but has recorded it in detail and posted the video on YouTube for everyone else to see. And yet he still denies the existence of the ISS.

>>10507689
>Sometimes I wonder if fascism truly is the answer
It does pose an interesting question as to what a nation should do when its own populace becomes a threat to scientific advancement. Some sort of technocratic/meritocracy form of leadership should be the ultimate goal in my opinion.

>>10507713
>the ISS doesn't exist because apparently the o-rings needed to seal the cupola shutters would fail due to them needing to hold back the vacuum of space.
Fuck these types of arguments make me so fucking angry, especially that one retard who points to that video of a cylindrical tanker on Earth imploding as evidence as to why things can't work in a vacuum. They just don't understand pressure differentials/the difference between compressive/tensile loads

>>10507729
>They just don't understand pressure differentials/the difference between compressive/tensile loads
To which they respond by bringing up a new "inconsistency" to try to distract from the fact that their original point has been refuted. They're not interested in debating or sharing ideas, they just want to preach and feel important.

>>10507713
you just need to ignore youtube. youtube fucking sucks; i spent like 30 minutes looking up the "Mandela Effect" and 99% of that shit is literally retarded youtubers posting 30min long videos along the lines of "Alaska? For sure I remember that Canada sold it to the US. Since when did Russia sell it to the US? That shit is false. For sure we warped timelines." and that shit got like 100s of comments and thousands of views and the dude has like 20k followers. it is a fucking cesspool.

stackexchange>physicsforums>>>>>/sci/>>quora>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(10^9 more >'s)>youtube

>>10507738
I find it hilarious how indignant they get when they wonder why NASA doesn't spend money going back to the moon to capitulate to their very specific standards of video evidence like a "continuous Livestream from here to the moon", as if they're going to spend billions making a video to convince some schizos who will just call it fake anyway

>>10507750
As for the "livestream from the moon", there is already one. The SELENE Orbiter from Japan recorded its orbit around the moon along with some nice videos of "Earthrises". The conspiracy theorists still claimed that it was fake. Nothing will convince them to change their views or even seriously reevaluate them short of a life changing experience.

Daily reminder that all the roundtards itt literally can't dissprove flat earth, and all they do is spout meaningless ad hominems
https://youtu.be/atL3PmFTJ3o

>>10507766
One of the many things that falsifies the flat Earth notion is the Apollo program. The program has shown that the Earth is shaped like a sphere, the program itself can't even exist if physics were different such that the Earth is flat. The program exists, the Soviets would've called America out on it if it were faked. Ergo, the Earth isn't flat.

>>10507766
that's because roundchads already did their research and agree with all the flerth disproofs that have existed since eratosthenes did it in 100 BC. literally you can disprove it by measuring the lengths of shadows at different places along a north-south line of latitude. heck; if you have a friend who lives in the opposite/north-south and east-west hemisphere quadrants from you, you can just call them up and ask them to look at the sun or the polar constellations.

honestly why are you even posting here. /sci/ isn't a retard board. go back to >>>/b/

>>10507777
Watch the video roundtard, it disproves everything you just said

>>10507779
Nope
Flat earth is proved.
Q.E.D
Watch the video

>>10507766
Why would nasa lie about the shape of a planet and how are the ancient greeks and every country(even ones at war)keeping a conspiracy up for no reason for billions of years?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs

>>10507780
I'm not watching a 2 hour video just to find one point. Where in the video does it explain how the Apollo program be faked AND have the Soviets keep quiet about it? Or even better, have you explain it simply.

>>10507782
your video is bullshit. flat earth is debunked. QED. kys.

>>10507785
Nasa lies to steal billions in funding
The ancient greeks had primitive knowledge, they were wrong
Flat is proved and the round earth is a recent Invention
>>10507786
So you're refusing to look at proof that's directly in front of you?
Pathetic
>>10507788
>your video is bullshit
Refute any of the points it makes, oh wait you cant
Earth is flat, sorry smooth brain

>>10506750
I think this is a really interesting phenomenon. Even though education in school is better than ever before, more and more people believe in conspiracy theories.
I actually think about this pretty often lately because trolls like flat-earthers get a lot of attention lately, but also more and more people believe in things like chemtrails. In my opinion, this is a result of politicians (which represent public authorities for many people) make decisions which, obviously, are not meant for the public to benefit. Losing trust over so many years results in people not believing authorities anymore

>>10507790
>So you're refusing to look at proof that's directly in front of you?
>Pathetic
No, I'm refusing to watch a video whose content is mostly unrelated to the point I have brought up. You seem to be using that video to try to avoid actually arguing against the challenges brought to you. I doubt that the video even address Apollo.

If that's not the case, and the video really does explain how the moon landings don't falsify a ridiculous model that has failed to provide anything useful to the sum of human knowledge since 300 BC, then either provide a time-stamp for the video you have shared, explain it yourself, or leave. It shouldn't be hard for you to do any of those things.

>>10507790
1.watch the video i sent,here it is again https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs
2.They could get the same funding with or with out flat earth.What does it being round provide money wise?
3.Watch this too:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zhp-FTYSGe8
4.Nasa isn’t powerful enough to get every government (even ones at war) to just lie for only nasa’s benefit

>>10507802
>No, I'm refusing to watch a video whose content is mostly unrelated to the point I have brought up. You seem to be using that video to try to avoid actually arguing against the challenges brought to you. I doubt that the video even address Apollo.
So you know nothing about it and are just spouting nonsense?
Nice
>If that's not the case, and the video really does explain how the moon landings don't falsify a ridiculous model that has failed to provide anything useful to the sum of human knowledge since 300 BC, then either provide a time-stamp for the video you have shared, explain it yourself, or leave. It shouldn't be hard for you to do any of those things.
Pa- fucking - thetic
I'm not doing your own research for you, lazy ass
>>10507803
Your videos didn't prove anything and are blatantly using special effects
Mine refutes all of your points

>>10507782
>Nope
>Round earth is proved.
>Q.E.D
>Read any fucking science book

>>10507824
Typical roundtard denying the science in front of him

>>10507816
>gets proven wrong and replies in less tr time to watch both the videos and doesn’t realize you can literally see stuff we put on the moon with a telescope
>ITS SPECIAL EFECTS HURRDURR

>>10507824
>side backed by """science"""
>has to resort to declaring himself right

>>10507832
Also why and how would adam,college humour,and every other youtuber and scientist be in on this?

>>10507832
Of course you have no argument besides nonsensical screeching
Nasa brainwashing is truly amazing
>>10507835
They're brainwashed, just like you
>>10507834
Watch the video I posted, it's hard proof of a flat earth

>>10507839
It was an imitation of you.
Also does brain washing some how disprove there facts
You cant even try to debunk the vids i sent,flattard.Also no ones watching 2 hours of your autism,please just tell us what happens in it.Y-You did watch your own video right anon?

>>10507816
>So you know nothing about it and are just spouting nonsense?
Where did you get that idea? The Apollo program clearly shows that the Earth is round (example: https://www.nasa.gov/content/blue-marble-image-of-the-earth-from-apollo-17/)), and the program clearly exists. Therefore it can be safe to conclude that the Earth isn't flat.

If your video has a counter argument against that, then give me a time-stamp so I can review the argument in a timely manner.

>I'm not doing your own research for you
And I'm not going to formulate your argument for you. You can't just show a 2 hour long video as a response to criticism and just say "the answer is in there somewhere". That's lazy and it will not convince anyone to agree with your point.

Unless you actually explain succinctly how the Apollo missions don't falsify the flat Earth notion, then this will be my last response to you. It's obvious that you don't want yo debate your point, you just want to preach and sound important.

"Do your own research" my ass, your line of thinking and debate (along with other flatties) actively discourage genuine research and curiosity in how our world works.

>>10507839
>hard proof of a flat earth

hey flerthers, explain this. do pilots intentionally fly on curved routes that are longer than necessary? why don't they just fly straight above flatearth?

>>10506750
There was just a test that showed Americans aren't actually all that bad at basic science, even understanding the need of things like a control and an experimental group. The problem is their scientific knowledge had no impact on their belief in conspiracy theories.

If you're on a team, rationalization trumps logic. So just writing these people off as stupid or irrational isn't going to get you anywhere.

If you need to assign blame, it would be to politicians for feeding into this shit for political gain, and maybe bad actors on the world stage working hard to tear everyone in Western society apart by tricking them into fighting about everything and destroying faith in all institutions.

The people are no dumber than ever been, and not particularly dumber than non-Americans.

>>10507839
kys retard

>>10507846
If you're too stupid that you can't even watch a two hour video, then you're just sad
>>10507847
All points refuted in the video I posted, try again round fuckhead
>>10507851
Typical roundtard argument, nothing but ad homs
>>10507858
They don't fly on curved rights, those are fake
>>10507862
No argument yet again, nice cognitive dissonance

>>10507847
He also hasn’t tried to debunk my less than 15 minutes videos claims at all.Typical flattardation.

>>10507869
Addressed in the video I posted, shame you are too ignorant and brainwashed to watch it

>>10507867
If it doesnt help you its fake then?Ok so science is fake
ALSO two hours is to long and by then the thread will be dead
Also can you atleast try to disprove my short videos
Pic related,disproves flat earth
>>10507890
Its too long provide a summary,also if all your arguments are this one video.What sources does it have?

>>10507867
>They don't fly on curved rights, those are fake
have you ever flown on a plane? you can look out the window and verify what you're flying over. i've done it. the paths are curved on 2d projections of earth's surface, but are straight on a spherical (globe) map [and by straight i mean they follow the shortest path along the globe's surface -- they only curve "down", not left or right]

>>10507894
Your pic doesn't disprove flat earth in anyway, not my fault you don't have the mental capacity to watch a short two hour video which lists all the sources it uses
>>10507899
Yup i've flown on a plane, and it's blatantly obvious that the earth is flat because of it

>>10507899
>not realizing this is actually proof of inside-out earth

>>10507869
Apparently, even though he wants others to do their own research, he hasn't done enough research on his own to know where in his own source a counter point is. Ironic.

>>10507904
>Yup i've flown on a plane, and it's blatantly obvious that the earth is flat because of it
well then you either flew on very very few flights that needed to fly stupid routes due to storms or turbulance or holding patterns, or you're fucking retarded. i challenge you to meet even one professional pilot (they are more common than high-energy physicists like me) and ask them to explain their experience to you. they will prove your theory wrong; i know because i know a long-time pilot (now retired) who can attest to needing to fly northward and then southward to efficiently cross the atlantic

>>10507904
The earths shadow on the moon is round and globular.Also gravity disproves flat earth.Also your video is to long and your to ignorant and lack the mental capacity to tell me about it.

>>10507894
>Pic related,disproves flat earth
Just because you've decided you're arguing with a retard doesn't mean you need to be one too. Lunar eclipses are the ones that would give it issue, not solar. Even selenelions work better with a round Earth.

>>10507922
>Also gravity disproves flat earth
Do you really, honestly think this would convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you?

>your to ignorant
Or was this all bait?

>>10507930
My spellings bad,sorry mate.also i get lunar and solar eclipses mixed up sometimes

>>10507052
Yeah, but people in Sub-saharan africa also suffer from childhood malnourishment, HIV/AIDS, and constant wars. China is a communist shithole. America doesn't have an excuse.

>>10507614
>>10507633
So you fully believe that 6,000,000 people died? What would your arguments be if you were debating someone who didn’t think that?

>>10508060
No one died. Jews, being the superior race and rightful owners of the planet, have both a hivemind and hypnotic powers. That's why they're all so consistent about the story, how they were able to get the historical evidence to exist, and why only people with mental issues disagree with it.

>>10508066
schizo

>>10508066
Ahh yes, just like how Christians all manage to get the story right which is impossible unless it was true.
And these stupid neo-nazis imply Jews are superior because they control everything which is ridiculous. Also, white people controlled everything for millennia due to environment and circumstance.
Also, there is no historical fact you can dispute. I am very intelligent and only believe in EVIDENCE and SCIENCE, it's not like all my beliefs are just formed by the environment I'm in determining what is socially acceptable

>>10508066
Okay and what if someone argued that the death count was actually 271,000?
/pol/ argues that the Jews died of typhus and malnutrition due to Allied bombing raids. They also claim that since the internment labor camps had swimming pools, movie theaters, and ice cream parlors they couldn’t possibly be death camps. What would your response be?

>>10508077
>Also, white people controlled everything for millennia
I still can't believe we got you to fall for that.

>>10508106
As an intellectual, I stand against all radical conspiracy theories which is why I only believe in facts and science.

White people control everything and now they use their oppressive powers to manipulate every single judge and lawyer and intelligence agency and police officers and victim of crime of to conspire together to let white police get away with murdering innocent black children in the streets for no reason.

We also live in a white supremacist nation with a racist in the white house who wants to deport all non-whites. This white supremacist system is so strong no white person can even advocate for their race biblically unlike every other group in the nation. This Just proofs how insidious whites really are.

Only intellectual like us understand this.

>>10508080
took me like 12 seconds of googling to find debunkings for all the swimming pool bullshit. are you stupid?

>>10506750
SCIENCE IS ALL ABOUT DENIAL, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN SCIENCE IS YOUR RELIGION.

>>10508153
Wow You absolutely DESTROYED that naxi with science and truth

>>10508153
It took me 3 seconds to find a picture of the fucking swimming pool in Auschwitz. Are you stupid?

>>10508162
>>10508172
>"A favourite example of the negationists is the so-called swimming pool in Auschwitz I. They argue that the presence of a swimming pool, with three diving boards, shows that the camp was really a rather benign place, and therefore could not have been a center of extermination. They ignore that the swimming pool was built as a water reservoir for the purpose of firefighting (there were no hydrants in the camp), that the diving boards were added later, and that the pool was only accessible to SS men and certain privileged Aryan prisoners employed as inmate-funcionaries in the camp. The presence of the swimming pool does not say anything about the conditions for Jewish inmates in Auschwitz, and does not challenge the existence of an extermination program with its proper facilities in Auschwitz II."

You are the lowest form of life.

>>10508120
Is this a weird copypasta or are you serious about this?
Btw you are not an intellectual.

>>10508185
Did You actually find evidence for each of the claims made in this post or did you find the first forum answer that satisfied your prejudiced perspective?

>>10508197
Everyone here is serious and an intellectual, except you.

>>10508185
Yeah yeah yeah
>>10508203
He sure did. You’ll find that exact quote here. https://www.quora.com/Why-were-there-swimming-pools-at-Auschwitz-during-the-Holocaust-Were-they-for-use-by-the-SS-or-the-inmates

>>10506750
Propably

>>10508203
It’s the logical perspective, and it’s quotes from professional historians. The only thing that requires evidence here is the claim that prisoners were using the pool, that the pool somehow proved prisoners weren’t being slaughtered there. You are actually fucking retarded.

>>10506781
If we don't do something about climate change NOW, we will all DIE in SEVENTEEN DAYS!!!

>only country producing any meaningful scientific output
>the rest of the planet gets free advancements in science and technology without contributing shit
>they sit around stroking their dicks about how cool they are
>"IS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC A THREAT TO SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT?"

>>10508217
Can your prove that it wasn’t used by the German guards? Why are you so hostile? We’re just asking questions and not explicitly denying anything.

If the world is flat explain G.R.A.C.E.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/Grace/index.html

>>10508217
Let me clarify what is going on here. Your ability to rationalize is terrible. My personal beliefs are not even relevant and have not been mentioned once, what I'm trying to do is expose how the average person derives truth and how terrible and irrational and arrogant they are about it.

Here's a list of claims in that statement that could be proved or disproved:
>nazis claim the existence of a pool proves Auschwitz was not a death camp
>the swimming pool was built for firefighting
>the diving boards were added later
>the pool was only accessible by non-jews

Argument problems:
>contradiction about whether it was a swimming pool or not
>statement that it's existence has no bearing on conditions within the camp

>>10508229
There’s no contradiction, and the pool only has a bearing on camp conditions if you make up a fantasy that the prisoners were using it for parties. Pick any abandoned prison — does the break room prove it was actually a resort for the prisoners?

Nah. Public education is more or less a byproduct of the politics todays. Instead of trying to improve the quality of public education people would rather use it as a political football to push their horseshit policies and ideologies.

>>10507684

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but scientific consensus has given favour to the wrong side of the argument on many occasions.

>>10508185

>You are the lowest form of life

You people literally can't argue with someone without picturing them as subhuman. Fucking lay off the onions man, it's not healthy to pathologise others that heavily.

>>10508340
>t. amoeba

>>10508332
The people who tell you to believe scientific concencus say that pretty much every single value and moral held by scientists over 50 years ago were wrong.

Racial superiority was scientific consensus but because that's in the past so it's wrong.

Scientific consensus (S) is a function of time. Scientific consensus also has less to do with published papers and more to do with public opinion.
S(1900, race) = blacks are subhuman
S(1950, race) = races are different
S(2000, race) = we are different but equal
S(2019, race) = we are all equal

>>10508344

This might come as a shock but from 2000-2019 there hasn't been much change in the field regarding race realism/racial hereditarianism, however there has been about five-fold increase in the number of genetic determinists regarding the 15-point Black-White IQ gap. Median response is that the IQ gap is 50% heritable.

http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/2013-survey-of-expert-opinion-on-intelligence.pdf

>>10508351
>expert-opinion-on-intelligence
Implying "intelligence" is a real, quantifiable "thing".

>>10508332
A moot point. Science is constantly changing in light of new evidence.

You have a choice. Reject scientific consensus.

You're now floating in a postmodern nightmare non-Euclidian space with an infinity of contradictions and truths mangled and mashed together at random.

It doesn't matter that you might be proven right years later because you would be right for the wrong reasons since you didn't have any evidence at the time.

Whether you're right or wrong, always make sure it's for the right reason.

>>10508344
>>10508342

Here's the 2nd source, 4chan thought I was spam. You'll have to type in the url because 4chan thinks I'm spam.

>>10508352

>Intelligence can be quantified

Yes I am implying that. Most psychometricians believe in IQ and general intelligence, but I guess that's almost a tautology because that's all the field of psychometrics is about really, lol.

>>10506750
only the segment of the public who insist that ignorance is holy and that academia is evil

>>10507031
stupid people are also much more vocal with their stupidity.
smarter people have the ability to realize when they don't know very much, so they stay quiet.
the result is idiots get their "point" across more often.

>>10508353

>Rejecting scientific consensus means entering a dreamworld of postmodernist nonsense

Or it could mean that you disagree with other scientists? I mean, I'm only an autodidact when it comes to these things, but consider how much physicists disagree over areas of physics like string theory. Just because these physicists don't see eye-to-eye doesn't mean that each sect doesn't have good reasons and research justifying its viewpoint.

Other areas like global warming require complex modelling and a large emphasis on assumptions when trying to predict changes in climate as well as the relative importance of contributing factors in the change in climate. Negative feedback loops, positive feedback loops, unknown contributors, etc. The science is complicated and it's not unknown for the majority of scientists to act in bigoted ways towards unorthodox theories, they're human just like you or me.

>>10508357
>Most psychometricians believe in IQ and general intelligence
Based upon their arbitrary tests regarding an arbitrary concept of "intelligence".

>>10508361
>The science is complicated
It ain't even science.

>>10508366

The concept wasn't arbitrarily chosen. Spearman observed that success in certain subjects positively correlated with success in other subjects, and based on this observation a 'generalised intelligence' was statistically calculated that was found to accurately predict the future success in other cognitive tasks. Concurrently Binet constructed tests to measure intelligence based on the concept of having a ratio of your 'mental age' divided by your 'actual age', producing an "Intelligence Quotient". This was originally intended for children, but as general intelligence was found to exist in adults as well, the two concepts were merged. Now you can critique the relevance of this metric or whatever but it wasn't fabricated, it was discovered.

>>10508361
Consensus is never set in stone. That's what makes science "science". Whatever has the strongest evidence for it at any point in time is the consensus, and naturally it's not always clear in every instance (especially at the forefront of human knowledge) like it is with things such as relativity, evolution, and anthropogenic global warming.

>>10508370

By the way when I say subjects I am referring to students' abilities on mathematics, English, Biology, Physics, music theory, etc.

>>10508344
>S(1950, race) = races are different and blacks are subhuman
fixed that for you
racial superiority was scientific consensus among people raised from birth to believe in their own racial superiority.

>>10508370
>Spearman observed that success in certain subjects positively correlated with success in other subjects
How many "subjects"? The science prodigy Bill Nye will likely do better in science than a redneck living in a trailer. But what if there was a subject about NASCAR? The redneck would destroy Bill Nye.

>>10508382

The subjects English students were taught in 1910?

Here's what he himself said about g, "When asked what G is, one has to distinguish between the meanings of terms and the facts about things. G means a particular quantity derived from statistical operations. Under certain conditions the score of a person at a mental test can be divided into two factors, one of which is always the same in all tests, whereas the other varies from one test to another; the former is called the general factor or G, while the other is called the specific factor. This then is what the G term means, a score-factor and nothing more. But this meaning is sufficient to render the term well defined so that the underlying thing is susceptible to scientific investigation; we can proceed to find out facts about this score-factor, or G factor. We can ascertain the kind of mental operations in which it plays a dominant part as compared with the other or specific factor. And so the discovery has been made that G is dominant in such operations as reasoning, or learning Latin; whereas it plays a very small part indeed in such operation (sic) as distinguishing one tone from another. . . G tends to dominate according as the performance involves the perceiving of relations, or as it requires that relations seen in one situation should be transferred to another. . . .

p1

>>10508390

On weighing the evidence, many of us used to say that this G appears to measure some form of mental energy. But in the first place, such a suggestion is apt to invite needless controversy. This can be avoided by saying more cautiously that G behaves as if it measured an energy. In the second place, however, there seems to be good reason for changing the concept of energy to that of "power" (which, of course, is energy or work divided by time). In this way, one can talk about mind power in much the same manner as about horse power. . . . . . .G is in the normal course of events determined innately; a person can no more be trained to have it in higher degree than he can be trained to be taller."

p2

Btw when he says 'tone' he's referring to musical pitch perception.

>>10508360
Im gonna sound like an asshole but its true so whatever. Stupid people do serve a purpose. Whenever there is a genius going up the ranks (im not saying im one), they form a barrier. They are the assholes in any "hero" story. For ex when Einstein was still a clerk in the patents office his contemporaries offered very harsh resistance to his theories (explaining the particle nature of light as well as special relativity) because of their own insecurities towards not being able to understand a logically sound theory. That only helped his theories stand the unequivocal test of harsh criticism.
Now imagine a dumbo not being a dumbo, not getting offended by his own stupidity. Imagine Einsteins paper buried somewhere because no one cared enough. Similar parallels can be found in every other persons story who actually made an impact on the collective of human knowledge, unlike the 99.9% of us.
My point is simple, without stupids getting offended and making a ruckus a worthwhile individual cant make an impact on the public subconscious. There is a reason why every mythological story follows the same "hero" routine, because its the most compelling one and literally everyone can relate to it.

Must be a lot of members of the American public in this thread, who else would encourage obvious baiters by giving them (you)s upon (you)s. But fashy anon above is right, scientific funding and work must be kept as independent of public disapproval and stupidity as possible.

>>10508404

>Stupid people do serve a purpose
>They serve as antagonists in the stories of geniuses by impeding them
>This is a good thing and should continue

Wot

>>10508382
>there's no such thing as athletic ability because a tennis player can beat a sprinter at tennis
Holy shit. Mariana Trench level IQ

>>10508409
taxation is theft

>>10508416
subsidization is arson

>>10508422

Diversity is our greatest strength.

>>10508382
Obviously to be a fair test it has to be new to both participants, and nascar racing is not a pure test of intelligence because it requires some physical skills. It's like calling hawkings a retard because he can't drive.

>>10508395
Why are people only tested in one kind of way? IQ tests for example are done with a pen and paper, why?

>>10507766
>literally can't dissprove flat earth
Flat Earth disproved, next.

>>10508473
>uses straw man "model"
>flat earth disproved!!1
Commercial space flight will put this to rest. Oh wait, there ain't any.

>>10508226
>>10508229
>>10508340
>heh I'm totally not a historically illiterate /pol/tard, but let me tell you about wooden doors
Fuck off

>>10508484
>uses straw man "model"
Oh really? So what's the real "model" then? And how do you logically explain the equinox on your model?
>Commercial space flight will put this to rest.
Or just commercial airlines

>>10507028
Is water wet?

>>10508488
>Oh really? So what's the real "model" then? And how do you logically explain the equinox on your model?
Commercial space flight needed first. I'm sure that's something you wish to have as well, correct?

>>10508486

What got me wasn't the wooden doors but that the chambers didn't have a mechanism to store the gas after venting it from the chamber. Without that + wooden doors the gas would end up flooding the camp if the Nazis actually engaged in systematic shove in 20 Jews, gas, remove 20 Jews fumigation.

>>10508506
Not an argument, you claimed the model I presented was a strawman, present a better model which fits real observations or you have lost this argument.

>>10508511
>+ wooden doors
The wooden doors were never actually there during the time the building was being used as a gas chamber, it was renovated for storage and the wooden doors were added later, look it up

>>10508519

What timeframes are we talking about here. Like post 1945?

>>10508516
>you claimed the model I presented was a strawman
Of course it is, since it is just a flattened globe.
>present a better model which fits real observations or you have lost this argument
Models are based on assumptions. Commercial space flight is much stronger evidence.

>>10507052
Believing something will give you good luck is not the same tier as believing that Earth is flat or space doesn't exist. And Africa has the excuse of being poor as fuck.

>>10508530
>Models are based on assumptions

>>10506750

It's kinda hilarious really. It's a trap ruling class set up themselves.

On paper most of your society being completely retarded drones is a good thing. You can easily manipulate them or give them dumb shit to talk about while they ignore real issues.

But in democracy when those retards start electing retards catering to their dumbshit beliefs problems start. And USA is dangerously near that point where retards elected by retards have enough power to ruin the country.

As someone living in Poland with multiple family members who lived during the war (my grandma died at 102 two years ago) reading retarded burgers arguing about Holocaust denial is just bizarre.

You fags are literally monkeys with rotten brains and don't deserve human rights.

>Be evul nahtzees
>better put our mass grave in Auschwitz right next to the well lol
>wtf how dare you question this

>>10508574
>>10508578

Am saving this

>>10507701
Not that anon but a facist system would never place the majority of todays ”facists” in a position of power. Intellectual supremacy is the superior option as it allows for the fast progression of science, and keeps brainlet genes from spreading throughout the populace. Humanity needs a substitute for evolutionary pressures now that the poorly adapted are artificially kept alive

>>10508584
The majority of fascists would be happy with this so long as you were not picking pathetic soi morons to rule, unfortunately I doubt this would be the case since James Watson isn't even allowed to hold a position anymore.

>>10508511
They blew it out through a vent. Thing is hydrogen cyanide is lighter than air which makes it bad as a general purpose chemical weapon but "safe" for exterminating people with.

>>10508601
Source?

>>10508578
>ally with japanese
>invade russia
>wonderwaffen and warhammer40k tier engineering delusions
>declare war on USA
>barely motorized, still use horses for most logistics
They weren't smart lol

>>10508646
Not an argument

>>10508601
did they recycle it? if not why not. If you're going to do something a million times you ought try to recycle resources

>>10506750
>the American public
...a "threat", no. A "hindrance", yes.

>>10508578
>giving a shit about water quality for people you are going to kill anyways

>>10508172
ahhh, the old swimming pool argument again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9vehIbDkNY

>>10508707
>18k dislikes
JBP fanboys are legitimately fucking braindead

>>10508567
Yes it is. China is a huge contributor to the possible extinction of elephants because many people in its population believe elephant ivory will give them magic powers.

>>10508812
Chinese ivory industry is centuries old, it is a far more complex issue then muh magic powder.

All of this would not be a problem if African countries were not corrupt shitholes. Chinks will probably end up making elephant and rhino farms.

>>10508646
pretty practical reasons for most of those

>>10508185
>They ignore that the swimming pool was built as a water reservoir for the purpose of firefighting
How could it have been such a bad place when they went so far as to make sure the prisoners didn't burn to death?

>>10509052
If the camp burns down then they can't use it anymore to exterminate any more people

>>10507040
lmao that's actually Hadfield on the arm in that pic
>>10507115
ty senpai :3
>>10507643
This, I go into those threads for the most part just because I'm bored and sometimes I'll be fortunate enough to find someone who's genuinely curious about how it all works.
>>10507762
You couldn't take them there yourself, they'd claim you drugged a glass of water they had X amount of time beforehand and were tripping the entire time.
>>10507780
kek
>>10507675
>>10507643
It's absolutely maddening.
Have some more STS pics, friendos.

>>10509148
Maybe they didn't have insurance on their summer camps though.

>itt: sub 100 million pop countrylettes talk shit about a country pushing 400 million people with states bigger than their country while their country most likely has done absolutely nothing in space other than hitch rides to the space station

>>10506750
My theory is that the explosion in science denial is because of politicians using climate change as an excuse to increase taxes.

The Consumers all believe unquestioningly in "The Market", so their only real chance of defeating the carbon tax is to attack climate science.

Consequently we get people lashing out at all the other sciences as well, so the number, anti-vaxers, and flat earthers, etc. explodes.

>>10509247
It's surprising how much you guys have achived in a field you don't even believe to be real

>>10507832
>You can literally see stuff we put on the moon with a telescope

You cannot. No Earth-based telescopes has the resolving power to image anything on the moon as small as the human artifacts left there. Nor can Hubble, but Hubble does not count to flatists because MUH NASA!!!!

The evidence that the Apollo program happened as recorded by history is overwhelming -- but your point about telescopes is in error.

>>10509247
stop making us look bad
t.burger

>>10507028
>>10508490
no, it makes other things wet

>>10509277
Tell you what, gather 400 million people into your country and then see what kind of dumb shit a small vocal demographic of it comes up with.

>>10509252
But those people are just as retarded as the science deniers. Alarmists believe that the problem of climate change can be solved by just throwing all of our money at it even when we don’t have a solution yet.

>>10508707
Why is JBP in the thumbnail. He's never denied the holocaust. Seems really clikbaity.