/sci/ - Science & Math

God is just a way to describe what we don't understand, and God will always exist because we will never understand everything. Dark matter could just as well be called "God force" and it'd make as much sense as it currently does

>>10485836
You are not alone. (Whether sincere or just trolling, there are plenty like you.)

No point in getting deeply into it, since these threads devolve into /b/-tier shouting matches they get deleted. But for many folks, science is a tool by which we better understand God's creation.

I wonder if the Mod's might let this thread stand as a test-case, to see if a worthwhile discussion might develop. They can always delete it when and if it turns into /b/ullshit...

>>10485836
explain wtf god was thinking with pic related

>>10485836
yeah, those genetic abominations really just ooze "being made in gods image"

>>10485855
Bunch of spare parts around and drunk and/or high

>>10485855
Strays is clearly the end result of god sniffing glue.

>>10485836
You'll be surprised to know that god has a particular interest in beetles for some reason, given he's created like 30,000 species of them.

The more I study the world and the true relationships around phenomena, the less necessity for God as an explaination I see.

>>10485836
faith in god is fine, as long as you're not one of those nutters that will keep spouting debunked memes from holy scripture, despite of them contradicting to observed facts

>>10485849
Not really, God is the why and not the how.

>>10485855
intermediate link in the evolutionary chain

>>10486605
"why" can be used to describe something.
as in "Why are you keep asking this questions? Get back in the corner and pray or else I'll spank you silly!"

>>10486605
>God
What God? YHWH, Jesus the Father, Jesus the son, Jesus the holy ghost? Allah? Vishnu? Odin? Perun, Zeus?

They are all different, from different mythologies of different peoples written in different ages.

>>10485849
Wow you just debunked religion. Please enlighten us with more Neil de grass tryson tier insights

>>10485836
I never got why creationists and evolutionists bash each other's heads in. All scientific theories only describe developments. Differential equations basically. These are useless without initial values and boundary conditions. What gave these boundary conditions? Nobody knows. Could very well be what some describe as "God".

Example: big bang theory. Only describes what happened after the big bang but not what it is. Also evolution. Species change, but what caused life? Nobody knows.

>>10486606
between ducks and otters?

>>10486618
reptiles and mammals (no details on the specific genera)

>>10485836
Ok now I'm a orthodox Christian but this is just stupid .There are Philosophical reasons to believe in God aside from this whole beauty and design shtick .Sure enjoy it ,but don't use it as an argument

>>10485855
It's cute desu

>>10485836
Okay, and?

Can you actually prove that God exists or is this just a bait meme post?

>>10486616
“Big Bang Theory”

Cosmic inflation is ongoing. Didn’t stop at any point.

>>10485855
Biology trivially disproves a benevolent God. He either is not real or intends for species to be imperfect and suffer.

>>10485836
try actually learning molecular biology/biochemistry

the flaws and imperfections become immediately apparent,
evolution is a heuristic process and an indisputable fact
no intelligent designer would be lazy in his creation

>>10487561
An easy one is the giraffe. The vagus nerve in mammals is the result of vagus nerves in fish which is attached to gills. As a result of having necks, the vagus nerve has stretched and goes from the brain, down the neck, around the aorta, and back up to the larynx. Due to the length of a giraffe's neck, the vagus nerve has to take a 15 ft detour to get the larynx. Any intelligent creator would know that's a waste of god damn nerve tissue.

Ok why Christianity and not Islam or Judaism? Why are you not a Hindu or a Sikh? Why don't you worship any of the Aztec, Greek, Roman or Norse gods? Literally all of those beliefs would use the exact same reasoning as you. There's only one answer. You are only a Christian because you were born to Christian parents in a Christian country and not because Christianity has anymore validity than the alternatives.

>>10486616
> but what caused life? Nobody knows.

Geochemistry to biochemistry but sure, we don't know how exactly that happened. However, saying that we don't know something means that God exists isn't a good argument because 1) It applies to literally every religion and it even applies to an infinite number of religions that we haven't even thought of. 2) Similiar arguments could've been made hundreds or thousands of years ago when we didn't know about atoms or DNA. We are constantly learning. People like to fill in the gaps in our knowledge with God because it's far easier than actually finding out the answer.

>>10487537
?

>>10487659
I'd rather argue it's impossible to find answers at least in some cases. How could we ever grasp the nature of the big bang with tools necessitating spacetime, which hasn't existed back then?
I never claimed that absence of knowledge of something proved that God exists. Just that some people might see the starting conditions as being given by "God".

>>10487733
“I'd rather argue it's impossible to find answers at least in some cases. How could we ever grasp the nature of the big bang with tools necessitating spacetime, which hasn't existed back then??”

Cosmic inflation describes the metric expansion of spacetime. Spacetime always existed, kinda in the name.

>>10485836
>The more I watch nature documentaries and marvel at the wonders of evolution, the more my faith in God increases.

>>10487931
Not really. The fact there is expansion does not imply there has "always" been a spacetime. Hence the name, big bang.

>>10486616
>but what caused life? Nobody knows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

>>10487996

>>10487993
Spacetime’s nature implies there has “always” been a spacetime. You know, time. The universe has existed for all of it.