/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10473322
The difference between the "gendered" Bell curve explains this.

Probably.

I do wonder if it's because girls have daddy paying their way through college.

We need to teach male STEM majors how to suck their professors penis in exchange for good grades

>>10473352
Sounds gay. When's the first lesson?

>>10473354
Engineering 101

Girls dont have the amygdola developed as large as males and have a difficult time grasping concepts such as imaginary time and resonant frequencies

>>10473322
women will start outnumbering men in stem degrees

they'll still end up teaching high school or being baristas while men do all the real work

>>10473322
They get better grades but they rarely achieve the level of understanding of the most motivated males. The top, i.e., those who are the most creative, innovative, and free thinking, will always be dominated by males.

>>10473322
related

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>>10473473
>>10473478
>>10473480
Again, all explained when you superimpose the gender differentiated IQ Bell curves together.

>>10473482
>*bell

>>10473482
>cites NYT
>kek

>>10473487
>cites a newspaper article
>Kek

>>10473357
lol

>>10473365
>>10473359
>>10473388
>>10473482
Cope.

The reality is that grades are a game, and it's difficult to tell a difference between the raw intelligence of a 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, or 3.8 student.
It's buttfuck easy to get good grades when everything is on Chegg/Quizlet/Coursehero and you can get all the old exams. The skillset required to get good grades is not the skillset required to be a great scientist/inventor.

Back when you could view the demographics on YouTube videos: math channels like 3Blue1Brown would show 90+% male viewership. Curiosity is the essential trait. If you spending your spare time exploring math instead of the vapid shit that the majority of college-age girls (and for that matter, boys) do, then you've got a better chance than most of your peers.

I can guarantee one thing however: none of those girls who facebook/instagram during Calculus II, get the old exam, ace the test, and then forget everything afterwards will ever accomplish anything noteworthy in the scientific community.

>>10473322
If that girl is so smart why doesn't she shave her sideburns?

>>10473959
Why is she using a controller instead of keyboard and mouse?

>>10473322
Most sciences are dominated by men simply because men are competitive with each other and often covet titles and accomplishments, so are driven to scheming for research positions, and working long hours to satisfy ambition.

Probably cuz stem filters out most dumb women and db men, and in the end we are left with 40:1 ratio of men and women.
After that you can just AVG out the marks or do whatever manipulation and find a slightly higher AVG grade.
You can literally do this with anything and any kind of statistic, this is disingenuous and shit article

>>10473388
The crux is that from the myriad possible career paths, people tend to pick those they excel in and are especially interested in. So the average grades really do not matter. When women's competence averages for a given STEM subject are higher than men's, but men have a flatter distribution, it's the extreme ends of the male curve that any woman has to compete with, not the average. These high achievers will predominantly be the men that go into STEM.

>>10474078
For the idiots: That means that there will be more high-achieving men than high-achieving women competing for the same spots (and higher achieving than women, too), despite an apparent lower average in the entire sex cohort.

>>10473913
>It's buttfuck easy to get good grades when everything is on Chegg/Quizlet/Coursehero and you can get all the old exams.
I consider that a failure on the professors rather than the students. It's not that hard to change the numerical values of the variables or mix up the questions.

>>10473482
>11-year olds
prior to teen hormone spurt
note bullet-point eight

>>10473322
Didn't read the post, nor what was written in the pic. All I want to say is that those F310 that they're holding are pretty good for that price.

>>10473322

If the majority of western males keep dumping their mental energy into video games during adolescence then yes.

>>10476044
>bullet-point eight
>Abstract and scientific thinking appear

>>10473322
It is a pussy for grades thing.

>>10473322
I don't think society will last that long. Collapsing birth rates will destroy the fabric of society.

>>10473322
The way to address this is very simple.
First you shrug, then when they nag you about lack of women in STEM professions tell them they are free to start their own company and hire only women.

>>10473352
When I give girls bad grades it doesn't initiate any penis sucking.

>>10473322
Most girls in STEM, hardly qualify as girls.
Just like most men doing modelling hardly qualify as men.
That's just the way things are. Like it or not some things are more "male" and some more "feminine".
Not that there aren't any exceptions to the rule, and some STEM categories are way more feminine than others(e.g. biology), but still.

>>10473322

I sure hope so.
They can have my shift on the oil rig for what I care.

>Within the last 10 years there has been an enormous push to get more women in STEM including tutoring, volunteer work, and thousands of dollars
>Tiny percentage of women at the margins do better than men measured as a whole
>SEE? WOMEN ARE JUST BETTER!
Not even mad, just disappointed that people lie to make themselves feel better.

>>10473478
>>10473481
never have I read something so fucking infuriating

>>10473480
>tfw you score extremely high on verbal but low on nonverbal reasoning

>>10478708
that's a sign of autism just so you know

>>10473345
They've got dad paying and Orbiter helping them pass and professor giving them extra chances and extra credit.

>>10473322
Probably. Decades ago, you would have never found a single girl in a calculus class. You can now find quite a few girls in calculus.

>>10478738
I'm well aware of the goddamn autism

>>10473790
this word needs to be fucking banned, I can't tolerate every good argument tagged in a retard's post

>>10473322
boys and girls learn differently. have you seen a typical girls notes? everything perfectly neat and tidy, highlighting the important parts in different colours, perfectly drawn diagrams. boys just literally wont care about something if its boring to them, they'd rather explore and learn about the stuff they think is cool

>>10473322
This is nothing surprising. The average male is definitely dumber than the average female.
BUT look at the top 0.1% and you’ll see the opposite

The entire educational system, from Kindergarten to Undergrad, is set up to prop women up. Accommodate women. 70% of teachers are women. Women have higher rates of graduation and grades across the board. And the infuriating thing is that they will still whine and complain and claim victim status while boys are quite literally being routinely suppressed and fucked over by the current dynamic because (X field) has "too many men in it!!!!". Apparently a 2 to 1 ratio of female to male college graduates isn't enough yet!!! :))

Fuck the West and I welcome our inevitable economic demise once women have been "handed" the reins as well. A system that coddles and handholds only produces the shittiest kind of dependent, retarded worker and leader.

>>10474078
That is exactly what I was drawing from: greater male variability.

>>10478738
Wouldn't the opposite be a sign of autism?

>>10473322
lmfao...

i would not be "that guy" who failed women in a stem class. Its like asking to get fired for sexual discrimination.

>>10479145
No you wouldn't.

>>10478838
Girls are obedient sheep

>>10478833
Because that word explains the sheer excuses you guys make.

>>10478838

This. Girls care so much more about grades I've found. They will adhere to bullshit principles set by academic institutions and do anything they ask for. Why they do this I don't know

>>10473482
>samples from 1932
Wow great fucking source anon

>>10478866
>women tend to get higher grades therefore it follows that the system is built to accommodate them

>>10478708
Fuck I know that pain good luck making a career of it

>>10479288
>ignore the fact that boys get better test scores
>ignore the fact that boys are more likely to take more difficult classes
>ignore the fact that after "academically lazy" classes were removed from the british A levels, boys started to get the higher grades all of a sudden

isn't it strange that the gender that literally tests higher, gets lower grades in schools?
how strange a situation this is

>>10479288
>Blacks are overrepresented in prisons therefore the Justice system is racist against blacks.
It's almost as if there can exist a hidden variable that it is needed to explain the correlation between two variables.

>>10473322
Tit bonus
Daddy pays for study help
They can crowd an entire research team which would even make someone with down syndrome passing class

The most egalitarian nations on earth show the largest disparity between career choice. The two sexes have empirically different brains due to hormones and no amount of modern day horseshit will make women want to be engineers unless they have autism.

>>10473913
This is it... for whatever reason women, on average, don't have the obsessive curiosity/drive required to make any real achievements in science. My theory is that the obsessiveness creates meaning in the scientist's life and humans pursue meaning whereas women have a way to access pure meaning by just having a child.

bump

>>10479331
Yeah it's almost as though tests aren't 100% of the grade

>>10473478
lmao that's hilarious.
The bias against men is so real idk how people still act like women are the ones who are discriminated against

>>10478657
You are doing it wrong then.

>>10473322
High schools in the U.S. are set up so even the dumbest of dumb fucks can succeed. Your final grades in your classes aren't derived from your intelligence, they are derived from how much trivial work you're willing to complete.

I knew a girl in high school who excelled in all of her math and science classes and decided to study biological engineering in college. She eventually switched to studying anthropology.

>>10479817
That's exactly the problem.
Tests should be at least 80% of the grade

>>10473790
>Cope

IQ=0

>>10479817
>i shouldnt be graded on what I know
thats a womans way of thinking
you want to pad your grades with worthless assignments so you dont have to actually learn anything
degen

>>10480051
>100% of take home projects are worthless
Is this truly the state of m*n's thinking ability?

>>10480098
They are far less valuable than test scores and as such they should not be used when we could use tests

>>10480104
Yes, asking a kid to preform a task that cannot be done in the span of 45 minutes is completely and utterly useless anon
>this is what ADD zoomers actually believe

>>10480107
For testing knowledge, yes it is useless. It also has a lower correlation with intelligence and job performance.
Projects like creating a game program in a software engineering class are useful especially for padding portfolios. But when it comes to just testing raw knowledge, tests are the best way to do it. If someone can do well on projects but not on tests, it just shows they don't actually know the material and are cheating when outside of the classroom. If someone can do well on tests but doesn't do projects, it shows they are smart and knowledgeable but don't enjoy doing work outside of the work environment. That is a much better indicator of being able to work on projects after they graduate.
ADD kids would rather projects they can cheat on outside of the classroom over tests they have to take within a set timeframe in the classroom.

>>10480118
>If someone can do well on projects but not on tests, it just shows they don't actually know the material and are cheating when outside of the classroom
Or maybe they just don't test well
I mean I had that problem in some classes in high school and I never cheated on homework, can you explain how that happened anon?

>>10480123
>Or maybe they just don't test well
No such thing.
>I mean I had that problem in some classes in high school and I never cheated on homework, can you explain how that happened anon?
You didn't know the material

>>10480141
I did know the material though, otherwise I'd have done poorly on the homework too
You're also assuming that people can't cheat on tests which is pretty fucking rich might I add

>>10480142
>I did know the material though, otherwise I'd have done poorly on the homework too
no, there are many more options
that the homework was easier
the homework wasn't graded as hard
the homework was only graded for completion
the homework didnt cover the important things
etc

if you knew the material then why the fuck did you not do well on the test

Physics and maths teacher here. I teach GCSE and A-level physics (ages 14-18) in the UK.
The difference in a academic performance between girls and boys is down to attitude and behaviour, not ability. I have taught many intelligent boys who are lazy, cocky and arrogant. Anyone with a brain knows that boys have a tough time accepting authority and need stronger and harsher discipline. Over the past 30 years, parenting in my country has become soft and as a result boys have become ill-disciplined and unmotivated.
In countries where people are more comfortable with strict/authoritarian parenting (e.g. India, China, Russia etc...) the difference between girls and boys is much smaller.

Tl;dr more military boarding school style disciple is needed for boys. Mollycoddling and ‘progressive’ education methods that have become popular fail boys.

>>10480955
>>10480955
>Tl;dr more military boarding school style disciple is needed for boys. Mollycoddling and ‘progressive’ education methods that have become popular fail boys.

Everyone knows this. Literally everyone in a position of power understands the formula to a success education. And thats PRECISELY why our education system is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to fail boys. Since antiquity we have known how to educate young men. The point is the marxists who won power through the long march of the institutions want to kneecap native born males as much as they humanly can. Its a necessary step in their plan to bog down our societies as much as possible from every front. Clog up all the gears with inefficient bureaucracy. Then use the inefficiency as an excuse to smash the system to bits and enact your own system.

Marxists are all 120 IQ retards though. Theyre only 1 std deviation from average. So they cant process the reality they're useful stooges for a greater evil

>>10480972
The teacher training course was hell. Almost everyone except me and this other Russian/British guy was extremely progressive. One of the women in charge of training the teachers literally told us 'Oh I never put any pressure on my son; we are really gentle about it. It wasn't until he was 17 that he turned around and said that he realised that if he worked hard he did better. I hope I didn't make a mistake tee hee.' I was silently fuming.

On the course, someone recanted how a teacher had told a bunch of disadvantaged (poor) students that education could be a tool to get money and how if they worked really hard they could study science at uni, get a good job and buy a car and a nice house.
The whole class of teachers (except me) groaned at how 'awful' it was to say things like that; the woman in charge said 'ooooh they're training them to be capitalists. You must never say things like that.'

Again, I was fucking fuming. Education in the UK is fucked for a developed country because of these fucktards. There are fucking impoverished villages in Bangladesh where the kids are further ahead in maths and more numerate because the parents and teachers have the basic common sense to teach the boys fucking discipline and hard work.

>>10480972
>big brains want boys to go to military school
Uhh, how about no? I learned way more shit dicking around in the woods and independently learning then I did scrubbing fucking boots an hour a day.

>>10481004
Learn to read.
I wasn't talking about an actual military school. I was talking about a system of military-style discipline such as in Russian schools. I have been there. Their students are light years ahead and the boys are not behind.

>>10481012
And yet every metric (e.g. amount of patents per pop, Nobels per pop, quality of life) shows that they're actually way behind the western world.

>>10473322
Confounding factor not considered: women are graded less harshly than men because these teachers are legitimately stupid enough to believe they're "fighting the patriarchy".

>>10480881
>Free time
>No pressure, 9/10 thoughts are about the project, can waste time digesting lunch and following cool rabbit holes related to the project that makes your understanding more robust
>cool open-ended project allows you to develop the ability for self-study
>test day
>7/10 thoughts are about what a fucking failure you are and that you'll answer everything wrong
>same anxiety prevents reviewing the material in prepation for the test

Eventually you'll have to learn to overcome your personal problems if you want to succeed, but while you have them it's a bitch. Especially when Dick heads like you will tell someone doing poorly on their dumbass formula memorization test that it couldn't possibly be any other reason than that they're an irredeemable dumbass

>>10481064
>And yet every metric (e.g. amount of patents per pop, Nobels per pop, quality of life) shows that they're actually way behind the western world.
Take a look at international PISA scores. It's a pretty good metric for academic achievement for 15 year old kids. Singapore, China, South Korea, Japan, Estonia, and Russia top the charts.

Nobel prizes go to scientists in countries where there is sufficient funding for scientific research and the best universities in the world. The US has by far the best universities in terms of facilities and funding. This means that, since the 40s, there has been a consistent brain drain all around the world to the United States.

This will not last forever. When the Russians, Chinese and the Indians get their shit together the days of the US being the sole economic power, and the most important patron of scientific research, are numbered.

>>10481089
if im being 100% honest
you genuinely seem like an irredeemable dumbass

>>10480098
post tits
then make sure the next time you cry it's around a man's penis for maximum blowjob effect.

That study should also be able to find the kitchen

>>10481094
1. Why do you think the US (and largely, the western world) has fared so well and attracts people from all over the world? Could it be that liberal education has worked in that sense?
2. You shouldn't lump Russia in with SK, China and Japan. Russia doesn't do nearly as well according to any metric I've found.
3. Schools in places with high PISA scores like NL, Finland, Estonia, Switzerland and Canada are very lax compared to Asian schools, and people living in those countries have much higher quality of life
4. PISA-testing is done to 15-year-olds, who knows what kind of correlation that has for future outcomes

All I'm saying that it seems like a way more complicated issue than the amount of strictness and obedience in schools.

>>10473482
>1932 11 year olds
yea just what we are talking about

>>10481131
>1. Why do you think the US (and largely, the western world) has fared so well and attracts people from all over the world? Could it be that liberal education has worked in that sense?
>hurr durr the reason the US is richer is because of its liberal education system.
I'm going to leave you to think about that for a second. I'll pay you the compliment of assuming you are smart enough to realise that this is dumb.

Done?

Ok. So, unless you know literally nothing about modern history, you will know that the the Western World's wealth has been built over the past 500 years of development and industrialisation. Liberal education and parenting has become popular in the past 30 years. 60 years ago most of China and South Korea was illiterate. The speed at which those nations have caught up is fucking phenomenal.

>3. Schools in places with high PISA scores like NL, Finland, Estonia, Switzerland and Canada are very lax compared to Asian schools, and people living in those countries have much higher quality of life

Yeah, but they generally have much better parenting than in the UK and the school system is still better the UK. I can't speak for the US.

Russian education in places like Siberia isn't great; lots of poverty and drug addiction.
Education in Mosow or St Petersburg is fantastic. I have been there.

>>10473322
No, from my experience most women are useless in these fields. I worked with some during my time at Uni and it was a truly miserable experience.

>>10480051
>worthless assignments
>don't actually have to learn anything
>assignments are extremely in depth compositions of many concepts
>assignments require significant amount of research
>assignments are extremely complex
>test is most basic form of question
>test has some additional concept but is designed to be easily identifiable if known
>test requires no additional research for ambiguous solution
Yes, test is is true test.

>>10481153
Personally I wouldn't want to be a top scientist in China no matter how great their facilities were or how rich the place was. That's what I mean by my first point... the place is an absolute dystopia and I'm sure Chinese education plays a part in that.

High PISA-scores aren't everything an education should achieve, although it is a big part. "Liberal education and parenting has become popular in the past 30 years" is an outright lie, at least here in Finland.

You only seem to bring up Russia because you have a personal connection to that place. Data doesn't support the notion that they're doing particularly well in anything.

Also, most places on Earth have strict "military-style" education and poor results. If you want to draw a causal explanation, you can't just pick and choose whatever fits your theory.

>>10480118
> But when it comes to just testing raw knowledge, tests are the best way to do it.
Tru but it has its limits outside of pure science/math
>If someone can do well on projects but not on tests, it just shows they don't actually know the material and are cheating when outside of the classroom.
That is a ridiculous statement. Solving a complex problem, without cheating, shows ability to conduct independent research, ability to identify possible solutions, ability to implement a previously unknown solution, demonstrates confidence in choosing a solution, and forces answers to be justified within context of organizational goals and economics. This is arguably more important for an engineer because we make money.

>>10481189
>. "Liberal education and parenting has become popular in the past 30 years" is an outright lie, at least here in Finland.

I was talking about my country, UK. Parenting and education has become much more liberal over the last 30 years here.
Your country, Finland is very different. I have been to Tampere and Helsinki twice. It is a very different culture to England. I know the education system is one of the best in the world. However, from what I understand, Finns have a culture of good work ethic.

Spend one week in a working class English school. It will blow your fucking mind.

>>10481098
XD

>>10479288
Except it's been proven this is the case.

>>10479288
The educational system is all about following very strict routines. Girls are more likely to be obedient and have the desire to please authority figures.

women love to suck dick and they love to feel smart.

teachers love to have their dick sucked and make brainlets feel smart.

how hard can it be to combine one and one ?

>>10481230
Sounds like a segregation issue more than anything. So yes, while you'd need more obedience in the "low income" schools, that would only seem to be treating the symptoms.

Obviously there's segregation of certain extent in every single country but places like the UK and the US are quite famous for having a history of racism and classism, respectively.

>>10473322
They've been trying to push up women's performance in stem fields for decades now

>>10473322
Women will take over in all industries and we will get to be NEETs supported by a mommy gf

Not STEM, pls no

>>10478657
>His program doesn't have dick sucking hours

>>10481288
>and we will get to be NEETs supported by a mommy gf
Nope. 99.9% of women will be dating 0.1% of men.

>>10481341
cuck fantasies are weird

>>10481341
This is obviously a ridiculous exaggeration. However, I do wonder if a strange kind of polygamy will become more common when most women earn more than most men and women continue to seek wealthier men.

Either that or male prostitution/male hosts like they have in Japan will become more common.

>>10481424
>This is obviously a ridiculous exaggeration
It's really not though. What makes you think those women are going to want average guys in STEM and not chads?

>>10481424
The bigger question is will society still be able to function then or will it collapse like like all the nets on /r9k/ say

>>10481424
>when
dude that's already happening, the average women won 8% more than the average man
only after getting kids the numbers get reversed

>>10481341
>>10481344
>>10481424

girls just wanna have fun

>>10473322
Men probably dominate the upper end of the bell curve where the best work is done, the best jobs are, etc. so depending on what you're interested in the mean may not be relevant

>>10473322
> Men or whites do better at something
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED, FIX THE EXAMS AND THE MEASUREMENTS
> Women or minorities do better at something
Yeah, they're clearly better at it!

>>10480972
https://youtu.be/kyWFpsAnVuI

women typically put a lot of work into school from my experience, more men do the smart but lazy shit. Also it is no surprise that more women are getting a degree as many fields are women dominated and men instead go to shit like trade schools and whatever else instead of doing some art degree. Lastly, as someone pointed out the iq bell curve of men vs women, there are more men in the retard column and more women in the average column which will skew towards more women with degrees as well

>>10485130
thanks anon, that video is amazing

>>10479488
Damn. Not sure how grouded in fact this is but I think this'll stay on my mind for a while. Huh

>>10483873
Fuck u whitey cracka nigga

>>10479288
>ignores all the stated ways this takes place to make your gay strawman

>>10485209
>women typically put a lot of work into school from my experience,

It's called "memorization" and in the information age, where everyone runs with 16+ GB smartphones, should be rated as an achievement on par with tieing your shoes.

>>10481172
Good job listing a bunch of empirically false thing, real achievement.

>>10478793
This. So many cases.
Every time I remember how some girls I knew during my studies passed things only because someone gave them answers, did the report for them or simply treated them more gently, I get mad.
Most of those girls had no idea what they said or wrote, they didn't understand shit. Those things happened during bachelor studies.
On the master level, still most girls weren't really able to think outside the box and mindlessly copied material. Overall, maybe 10% of girls are really capable and most of them don't even look like girls.

>>10485474
>>10485130
He just came out with a new (and more polished) video on the same topic
https://youtu.be/6CDaflxJJ0g

>>10473322
Women dominate classroom dynamics and tend to manipulate teachers to teach in the style they desire. Male professors bend to it and female professors enjoy it.

>>10473913
>grades and school is a game
Wait a minute. I thought boys are better at games then girls?

>>10481098
No u

R*tard

>>10482465
What the fuck UK

>>10485515
Based

Women having more degrees means shit the moment you look which kind of degrees they’re pursuing. This shit always happens, women go into X place and this X place changes to coddle them, this is how unis started doing womens studies, nigger studies and “insert other indoctrination degree here”.

>>10473322
>schools literally designed for girls to succeed and boys to fail, even if not by intent certainly by accident
>girls get better grades
Wow, who would have thought that the gender which is literally the model student according to behavior standards is going to be the one developing the skills and attitude to be successful in school while the gender that is spending significantly more time out of class for no other reason than being themselves suffers.
What a shocker. Who could have foreseen that reorganizing schools to support the natural inclinations of girls while punishing the natural inclinations of boys - all the way back to primary school - would result in adult women out performing men at virtually every metric in scholastic achievement?
Ironic how, as soon as it benefits them, they stop talking about the social problems and want to start making naturalism fallacies.

>>10473322
Did they just assume our gender?

>>10473322
Those studies are always about high school level standardized tests or normal high school GPA which has shown to be a poor predictor of later academic performance especially in STEM.

In addition there's grade bias in high school.

The fact is that female dropout rate is much higher than males in university level STEM. What many of these people are proposing is to change the curriculum to make it easier to pass once students have been accepted into a programme.

This will simply result in an incompetant force and only those students who graduated from more traditional programmes will be hired (this is happening already).

>>10473322
>OP pic
couldn't this just be explained away via survivorship bias?

>be female
>hate hard work
>only stay in STEM if it's comparatively easier for you
>if easier then grades better
>less make it to the end
>those who do have higher grades on average

>be male
>think hard work is meh
>be brainlet who can just barely pass STEM classes
>stay with it to the end despite being challenging
>more make it to the end
>those who do have lower grades on average because bottom tier stayed with the program

it's possible that women are performing better because only the smarter ones stick around through filter classes. Thus they're less represented but better-performing on average.

>>10479251
Are you saying the iq tests done in that sample lacked rigor?

It's funny because I know a teacher in computer science in my university that intentionally has only female TA's and females always vastly outperform men in that course. A lot of the grading is ambiguous as well in his course since most of his courses are delivering projects. And it's very easy to be biased when grading projects.

Grades are really a meme inside my country anyway (Netherlands). I guess grades matter in US but not that much over here.

>>10473913
Grades are a complete meme over here. Though there is a difference between someone who passed and just failed but other than that I'd say the difference between someone who scores a 6.5/10 and a 8/10 is often very minimal. (> 5.5 is passing grade).

Also whatever courses employ testing that consist of memorization of facts in a book that is to be reproduced in 2 hours on an exam, that isn't real world testing. You got tested like that for 6 years why repeat that in college? The exams (some business courses I did) which did this exact same thing I barely remember anything from them. And it has been only 2 years ago. So by the time you graduate you don't even remember anymore what you learned exactly.

You know what is even worse? Multiple choice exams where over half the questions are copy pastes from the exam from last year that is posted on some study site while the prof pretends he doesn't know this. What was even the point of the course when you give a grade based on 2 exams like that? Nobody would've learned anything.

>>10476228
In all the programming courses I did the prof and TA's were always seen orbiting around girls helping them actively writing code for them. Then when you ask for help they give some vague description of what could potentially solve your problem and then you need to find out the solution still. That's quite a double standard in help.

>>10480972
> Marxists
People who unironically believe that lack the mental capacity to research their beliefs because otherwise in economic theory they would find far better ways to attack capital than Marx his dated theories.

The people you are trying to criticize aren't Marxist, they're progressives and neo liberals. Often have meme degrees in education that think they're now entitled to knowing the optimal ways to educate a child. However their psychological understanding of processes is so limited that it's not really the case. The result is a lot of different takes on education with a lot of them being sub optimal.

>>10481094
When I look at the American educational system I kind of cringe at horror at how they have done things. Commercialization of education is a very stupid thing to do nationwide. Their population has much more debt and is overall less educated than European peers who included a large part of education into the governmental budget. Selection for universities should take place based on merit, and merit alone on standardized tests. That alone solves a lot of problems with everyone going to college / university. And then due to stricter selection standards it's easier to up the level of education since generally the well performing students on those tests can handle a higher load in university. Governmental boards should ensure quality of education at universities if they receive funding from government this is so to make sure the university doesn't lower standards and to guarantee quality.

By the way India has bigger issues with its educational system than USA, they won't really surpass US. Russia is braindrained and I don't see that changing. East Europe is upcoming and China as well. Eastern European education has been standardized to be on par with western European countries and they show much promise. However the talented still usually go away from their original countries since they're working for pennies compared with the west.

Cant wait for an A I to come out and prove how stupid most women in higher education truely are

>>10478738
Evidence?

>>10488023
>it's possible that women are performing better because only the smarter ones stick around through filter classes. Thus they're less represented but better-performing on average.

As a physics teacher in the UK I can confirm that a typical A-level (advanced level ages 16-18) Physics class has about 15 boys and 1 or 2 girls. Usually the girls are pretty high performing and will get an A or a B; girls only opt for physics at A-level if they are genuinely very good at it.

Women can fuck their teachers for grades, though.

>>10473322
Men will take all the high stress and dangerous jobs, women will be in the office. I'm ok with it.

>>10478708
Sounds feminine also wtf is non-verbal give me examples

>>10473322
it's time to cut those cocks off boys you're IQ's will increase

>>10489676
>you're

>>10473790
I honestly hope you get brain cancer and one of these unqualified bitches start butchering your skull.

At least then you'll have an excuse to be this retarded.

>>10478738

>citation needed

>>10488227
>The people you are trying to criticize aren't Marxist, they're progressives and neo liberals


this

>>10485209
You mean

>women don't get bullied for being smart and getting good grades, therefore they try
>teachers don't believe every false statement about a female student, but believe them all when it comes to male students
>males get outcasted for acting a bit weird and end up being "that silent kid" all their life and never put in any work because why bother
>everyone acts surprised that males give up and drop out of society

It's pretty easy to make males more productive if we go back to better times where hot women were a reward for hardworking men.

>>10473339
This

>>10473482
>Scottish 11 year olds in 1932
Great source!

>>10476044
Gross over simplification

>>10473339
also women take different stem classes, obviously stem isnt a monolith, #women in biology is greater then comp-sci

>>10473322
The term 'women's career' is quite meaningless in my opinion

Things will inevitably change: more women will go to this field which means less women in those fields leading to more men in those fields and when men dominate the old fields women will come flocking back in the name of "progressive".

Perhaps if we're lucky we can start getting scholarships for being a white man in psychology or veterinary school