/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10443559
Germans are idiots.

Whether it is true or not, there is no experiment you could (realistically) perform to elucidate the answer. Best to leave it in the hands of philosophers for now

Isn't it true according to quantum mechanics? Since entropy can be reversed by pure chance, and with enough time it will happen.

>>10443735
Nah, dark energy seems to imply heat death.

>>10443559
>why don't physicists look into Neitzsche's concept
because philosopher ideas are useless in science

>>10443559
because physicists aren't retards

Its more of a thought experiment designed to get you to accept your past, your current situation, and to live life to its fullest leading the best one you can going forward.

>>10443559
>Listening to the faggot who wrote The Gay Science
Lmao

>>10443561
>>10443559
poos in loos like nietzche are idiots

>>10443559
I think the whole point of his idea is that it is inaccessible to empirical inquiry. It is totally inscrutable to science. You can believe it, as I do. But that's all you can do.

>>10444334
To elaborate, the reason I believe Nietzsche's idea is so compelling is precisely because of physics. Physics has shown beyond the shadow of any doubt that what we perceive as "the present moment" is relative to the observer. But it hasn't shown why that it is. And it likely never will. Eternal return is a likely, if not demonstrable, explanation.

>>10443735
>>10443745
Nietzsche's idea is divorced from entropy or any other physical concepts. What he's talking about is purely just perception of reality, not physical processes themselves. All the atoms in the universe will not reverse their trajectories and follow the "forward" arrow of time anew. That's not what he's saying. He is only talking about the perception of the passage of time by an observer. Not time itself.

>>10443559
>>10444188
>>10444257
>>10444334
>>10444339
>>10444350

this idea has nothing to do with physics, not that it can even be proved or tested for at all. the theory came up in a a thought experiment in which neitzche tries to demonstrate the what the psychology of an ubermensch should be; they should love life so much, that heaven for them would be to live the same exact life over and over and over again for infinity. It was a criticism of the concept of the "true world" that so many religions abuse.

>>10443559
It's literally just a thought experiment like >>10444434 said. Has nothing to do with physics.

>>10444434
End of thread desu.

I really hate it when people try to read into shit like this and miss the forest for the trees.

>>10443914
t. bill nye

>>10443559
>he cant even spell nietzsche

>>10443559
Does this mean that in the next iteration I have a 12 inch cock and a 10/10 gf?

>>10443561
>Nietzsche
>German

>>10446447
This. Fryderyk Niecki was Polish. He said so himself.

OP set this up all wrong. "Physical ideas" like this may not have anything to do with the field of physics, but they are nonetheless related to physical existence.

>>10447091
neetch was a self-hating german pussy larping as anything else
>>10447093
retard

>>10447102
It makes sense. Poland and Germany have an age-old frienemy relationship. Culminating, as we all know, in the greatest war in history. The word for a German person in Polish literally means "deaf mute" or "a person who is unable to speak".

Why do physicists continue to ignore philosophers in general?

>>10447109
correct
am Polish lol (like my great grandfather: Fryderyk Niecki)

>>10447515
Philosophers, at least the self-described ones at university philosophy departments, have mostly veered off into the same inane obscurantism that plagues the rest of the humanities. That isn't to say philosophy is dead, it's often just something performed tangentially as a byproduct of innovation in other fields.