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who here joining space force

>>10435129
They won't be worth joining for another 10-20 years.

If you haven't seen Apollo 11 yet and have a chance to see it in theaters, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? GO. The launch is worth the price of admission all by itself!

>>10435241
no imax in my state

>>10435241
its not showing in my ester european country

>>10435279
Soviets are this butthurt lol

>>10435294
>tfw you have to announce new Amerikanski capsule that makes Soyuz look like trash can

>>10435324
>tfw you have to announce new Amerikanski capsule that makes Soyuz look like trash can

>>10435238
I think 10 years is probably the minimum safe bet too. It will take at least 5 years for the Space Force to absorb the right military space forces, and then another 5 years to iron things out.

>>10435238
space force role call

We did it reddit!

>>10435125
im honestly surprised tesla hasnt even come out with a concept design for a lunar or martian rover, even if its just shitts and giggles

>>10435419
When the hatch was opened two men went in to make sure everything is safe, only then a brave woman went in to play with a plush toy

>>10435469
wasn't she the one who opened the hatch where previously there was void?

>>10435469
>>>/r9k/
Go home

>>10435469
>t. incel

>>10435520
>>>/r/eddit
you fuck off too

>>10435125
The only logical thing to do is to throw the one inside of the ship out and leave them both to die.

>>10435525
As if men who are angry at women because they're single is a reddit only phenomenon?

10435530
no, estrogen mongrels that use incel as an all purpose buzzword belong on reddit, and need to fucking stay there
This place is for humans, not your kind

>>10435533
I say one word and somehow you know everything about me?
Wow! You must be the next Patrick Jane.

>>10435419
That Earth plushie is absolutely adorable.

I want one.

>>10435551

>>10435556
>hand made by 3 year old chinese children
what was spacex thinking? what were redditors thinking when they bought it? what is the company thinking by selling the product?

>>10435556
>Appropriate
Wow!

>>10435579
>>10435589
>not assuming that was a shop

>>10435579
>>10435589
>>10435594

It was photoshopped.
https://www.celestialbuddies.com/earth.html

>>10435129
I plan on joining the Air Force then switching to Space Force when it becomes a thing in a decade

>>10435533
Lurk more and learn how to post before posting here again.

>>10435611
original

10435627
begone redditor, (You) denial is an act as old as (You)s themselves

>>10435533
>>10435632
How did you manage to fuck up twice?!

>>10435632
>redditor
>calls (You)s old
You have to go back.

>>10435615
spaceforce!!!!

>>10435642
what did you mean by this post?

>>10435642
that suit looks 100x better than the tacky garbage that spacex came up with

>>10435658
The 80's had some cool ideas for space suits too.

>>10435642
>>10435662
Duster pride system wide

>>10435551
Sold out though. Company said restock in April. And first time ever they had a backlog selling these, they only knew Little Earth was hitching a ride when Elon tweeted about it.

>>10435125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icgGyR3iusU

>>10435646
COD:infinite warfare franchise is what people think when spaceforce comes to mind. Though admitedly until launch costs are like $1million to 5million a pop to send up say 50 to 100 soldiers to the moon or a military spacebase we wont get anything like pic shown .

>>10435658
yeah i dunno how the fuck spacex designers came up with a such a shitty design. especially considering the astronauts look like fat fucks in that the suit

>>10435679
they better get their shit together when the moon and mars spacex missions come up

>>10435685
that's not what I had in mind of Space Force. Like how the US Army Air Corps had to separate from the Army to become the US Air Force becomes of demand of air superiority, eventually everything involving space that the Air Force handles like GPS will be handed over to the Space Force.

>>10435692
The creator of the plushies must still be in shock. Apparently she started making and selling these in her free time, and now she gets the most expensive ad about it for free.

>>10435579
SpaceX is the ancap dream come alive

>>10435714
>$6 billion in government contracts
>ancap

>>10435721
it is if the capsules are crewed by three year olds

>>10435711
kinda of a byproduct of how the space economy will grow. Even little nonsense souvenirs will sell out. Every ceo should be hyping up space colonization
8billion humans becoming 500billion to 1trillion more costumers in a few decades = sky rocketing profits and trillion dollar valuations.

COKE and PEPSI could set up a martian subsidiaries.
AT&T would have billions more customers sending messages and doing communications.

>>10435241
it was fantastic!

>>10435735
I'm betting DearMoon will have product placement everywhere.

>>10435241
The mother country song scene made me cry, almost

>>10435685
if shit like COD gets the common people interested in building yuge shit in space, then praise COD, give the devs a medal
at this point, appealing to normies is the only way to get shit moving again

>>10436036
Up next: CoD: Mars

Featuring a zombie gamemode where all the zombies are replaced by angry Elon Musk clones. It'll be called "Musktide".

>>10435615
>>10435642

Why does NASA want their Moon station orbiting the moon instead of Earth/Moon L4 or L5?

>>10436265
For easier access to the Moon's surface. They plan on sending people back there. Also there's not much of interest at the Earth Moon L5 and L4 points.

>>10436265
more stationkeeping would be required, and less points on the moon could be reached and would require more dv to do so in general

>>10436161

I forgive you your hatred.

>>10436299
fuck off faggot

>>10436308
Be nice.

this triggers the americans

>>10436313
How so? Competition from communists was what brought America to the Moon. It was, dare I say, the only good thing communism has done.

From the strange corner of YouTube.
https://youtu.be/EdRYthkSwvI

>>10436310
No

>>10436313
CG renders trigger Americans?

>>10436313
I'll take things that will never launch for 500 alex.

>>10435129
It's just gonna be a bunch of middle aged dudes sitting in a room monitoring satellites.

>>10435481
No.

>>10436313
China can barely put people in orbit.

Graduating in a year with w computer engineering degree and I wish I would have done aerospace engineering. What are the chances I could get into a good AE masters program with this degree and a 3.4 GPA? I go to purdue

>>10436440
for now
more shit will come when more shit gets put up there

>>10436483
Zero
you need to go into aero to get into higher level aero

>>10436501
>>10436483
even if you studied aerospace engineering you have almost zero chance of getting into aerospace engineering.

>>10436470
Are you really saying that when Americans had to use Soyuz for a decade?

>>10436902
I agree, anon
NASA should have stuck with Apollo, there's no need to change

Any ideas as to what this could be the start of? Second hopper? Super heavy test vehicle? A very inconveniently placed nosecone section?

>>10436048
>Not calling it "MuskHusk"-mode

>>10436954
starship prototype?

>>10436954
Probably the top of the top tank assuming they use a shared bulkhead, if there isn't a shared bulkhead it could be the bottom of the top tank.

>>10436954
Gee elon, how come your mom lets you have TWO super rockets

>>10436954
Aren't they rebuilding the top half that got blown over?

>>10436954
It's probably another section for the first hopper. This time they're probably doing it a ring at a time instead of just slapping on a bunch of panels one at a time. Also notice the orange triangle nearby, that's probably another support strut like they put in the lower section.

>>10436860
Aerospace Engineering grad here.

Literally everyone from my class has a job in Aerospace Engineering - except for me. I became a milfag pilot. No regrets.

>>10437048
Aerospace Engineering military pilot, your wife is going to be so proud of you, no homo

>>10437048
how is this possible? I majored in it, but i couldn't find a job in it. Then everybody told me it's basically impossible to work in aerospace, and I was an idiot for majoring in it.

>>10436924
>NASA should have stuck with Apollo
But anon, Apollo was too expensive. We needed to cut it for those welfare programs even though the space budget is tiny compared to welfare.

>>10437257
Saturn 1B, not Saturn V

new boca Chica drone footage https://youtu.be/RW19LpsB4xs

>>10437230
>hen everybody told me it's basically impossible to work in aerospace
Whats their reasoning for this? I've heard that its very difficult to get a job at Boeing as an aero eng. because they're looking for CS majors, but I haven't heard of the whole aerospace industry to be impossible to get a job in.

>>10435579
>>10435589
Did I leave parts of text misaligned vertically for naught?

>>10435642
>the gun is black
wait, wouldn't that make the gun impossible to use in space bc it would absorb all the heat from the sun?

>>10437347
if you use high thermal conductivity alloy for the barrel and then use the whole gun as a radiator you can fire few clips before you overheat

>>10435735
>8billion humans becoming 500billion to 1trillion
Not likely. Outside of China, India, and Africa, the population is decreasing. It won't even reach 20 billion before improved standards of living cause a reduction in their birth rates too.

>>10437340
Basically that it's a glamor job in an industry you can only break into if you're well connected and that's much smaller than most people think.

>>10437259
I figured, I'm just being salty because I recently ran into one of those "space is too expensive, more money for the poor" people.

>>10437387
Tell me more, i'm not pissed off enough today.

>>10437437
I don't have much to share. I had a long day, wanted to come home. Was chatting with some friends about SpaceX and a friend of a friend ,that I know little of, blurts that out. I left to go home shortly afterwards because I was too burnt out to contribute much to the conversation. It just kinda festered a little bit since.

If you want to be upset (or have high blood pressure), then just go to YouTube and read the comments for the Apollo 11 trailer.

>>10436954
You should post it in high resolution instead of a tiny thumbnail.

>>10437257

That fat black chick is right. Don't look at it as a literal tradeoff. The other societal problems require Apollo scale level efforts to solve where none are occuring or being contemplated.

>>10437604
where is the new nosecone that they were working on?

>>10437746
Its behind the hopper. The tapering cone is presumably being put together inside the tent.

Some company called Momentus is offering to boost satellites (up to 100kg) into other orbits, including GEO, Lunar, and further outward. The price is $5 million and service should start in 2020. Their test article is supposed to launch in June.

>>10436470
neither did America before Apollo

>>10436470
Do they ever plan to expand their manned program?
They have space station on orbit but they had only one manned flight in 2016.

>>10438207
I think China is planning a manned Moon landing sometime from 2020 to 2025.
I hope they do something ballzy like landing near where Apollo 11 landed to trigger another space race in America.

>>10438216
>I think China is planning a manned Moon landing sometime from 2020 to 2025.
Source?

>>10438124
Gemini

>>10438216
>>10438314
He has no source, because it's aimed for 2030 to 2035. That's the timeline that fits their vehicle development schedule for LM-9. China have never been ballsy when it comes to spaceflight, they do everything in incremental and systematic campaigns (e.g. Chang'E 1,2,3,4,5); if China are going to land on the moon you'll know about it a long time before it happens, just look at their human spaceflight record and try and call China "ballsy" with a straight face...

>>10438314
>Source?
My hasty reading of...
https://www.space.com/42914-china-far-side-moon-landing-crewed-lunar-plans.html

I didn't read further down when I made my post. The article agrees with >>10438343 's timeline.

>>10437488
I'm not sure if the people calling fake are shitposting, but I'll assume they are.

>>10435129
Why in the fuck would you ever need a space force this isn't wh40k

>>10437816
this is really cool. Hopefully as space becomes more accessible there will be more companies like this. more companies in space will get us closer to a real space economy

>>10438207
Aside from the Moon, they are close to putting up their first real space station. They hope to have it fully assembled by the end of 2022. There was also a recent image discussing their Moon landings and it showed them using another space station in Lunar orbit, but we don't know if it is NASA's Gateway station or a Chinese Lunar station.

>>10438622
That thing looks like something right out of KSP.

>>10438614
comfy space concepts thread?

>>10438629

>>10435125
Every time I watch falcon heavy launch video i feel myself holding back tears. Especially when the fairing separation music kicks in. Anybody else? Just me? okay.jpg

>>10438622
i feel genuinely sad for chinese or rather asian people. Smart enough to copy and improve *slightly* too culturally rigid to come up with something completely unique. This is just an ISS knock off.


god i hope the west doesnt collapse or else WE ARE ALL FUCKED.

>>10438781
You're a bitch and falcon heavy wasn't anything special
Watch them do it again, but with a real payload this time in a month or so

>>10438781
no you re just a reddit fag

>>10438884
No you're a bitch, faggot
>>10438888
Nice quads, but you're still a faggot

>>10438888
>anon mentioned nothing about reddit
>complain to him about visiting reddit

Let me guess you figured it out with your mentalist abilities?

>>10438892
cry more
>>10438888
nice

>>10438942
>cry more
I will
brb watching more falcon heavy footage because its so beautiful

>>10438976
have you seen the staging footage recovered from Saturn V?

>>10438979
Does this count?

>>10438991
Also to make >>10438781 cry some more.

>>10438898
i think getting turning into an emo fag and nearly going into tears about fairing separation is clearly stereotypical reddit behavior

>>10439000
How is that "typical reddit behavior"? It seems like you just want to hate on reddit.

>>10438979
Yes
But no fighting back tears because it's already happened and its about ot happen again

>>10438881
It's more similar to Mir than the ISS.

>>10438207
Chinese "space stations"

A souyz copy service module with a tin can and docking ring attached.

>>10439000
>>10439004
if ya'll weren't such bitches we'd be on the Moon right now

>>10438881
I hope the Chinese succeed in their space program. Maybe if they start doing a lot of manned missions it will spur congress to shift our focus to more manned missions.

>>10438881
I agree with this. I think i applies more for china though
China wants to be a big player. Japan is just content doing what it's doing, as is south korea
SpaceX and Blue Origin are on their way to super heavy lift ability and china's just hurr durring with their ISS knock off
C'mon step it up china. Though I acknowledge they're largely in a learning phase, if you ignore the whole corporate espionage aspect of it

>>10439017
The political will wasn't there
The government stopped caring when it was no longer useful politically.
And we know how much the average person cares about spess

>>10439022
>Though I acknowledge they're largely in a learning phase
Also not being able to work with NASA probably didn't help them.

>>10438881
A Japanese company is creating artificial meteor showers on demand. http://star-ale.com/en/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhES1P4Qx1g

>>10439028
>And we know how much the average person cares about spess
This, and it's pretty sad. Apollo only had an approval rating of around 50% at its best. Most average people don't care about spaceflight and think its more expensive than it actually is.

>>10439021
>>10439022
The asians will do whatever the west does and thats the sad reality of it.
If the west decided to tomorrow to pack it up and not bother with space. the asians would as well

>>10438991
>>10438995
The simultaneous landing is just perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0FZIwabctw

>>10439031
Yeah. With China, anything that will affect hwo they are seen by others will be scrutinized, so i'm not worried about them taking dumb shortcuts yet
>>10439038
Yeah. Thankfully SpaceX stepped up and is getting shit done.
I remember Virgin Galactic making news over a decade ago. Only just now have they gotten off the ground, goddamn.
I wonder if we'll see any stations / colonies on the moon or mars get their starts in our lifetime.

>>10439048
I agree. They are quite conservative in terms of their ability to dream.

>>10439048
>>10439022
>>10439021
again despite high iqs, they havent invented anything, theyve only copied and only if the west does it do they do it. You cannott count on asia for innovation, that is strictly a western phenomenon, call me racist. dont care but dont act like if the west disappeared tomorrow asia would take on the slack and continue innovation

>>10439056
honestly i think there is bezos should step in and just finance a base out of his own pockets. He already plegded 1billion a year, just that billion and setup a moon base that can grow into a mini colony

>>10439063
high IQ doesn't necessarily mean they're creative
china is really hampered by their strict traditions. Their censorious and xenophobic nature is a part of that
At least one anon has said asia wouldn't take up the slack man. relax

>>10439063
China =! all of asia
the japs are reasonably good at innovating when they need to
it's only the bugmen that can't do it

>>10439035
founded by this qt

>>10439035
If they can control reentry timing to within about a second and have good location control, Disney will be all over that. They already own the overwhelming majority of US fireworks-related patents, this would be a logical thing for them to add to their portfolio.

>>10439064
Well, I know the technological and financial means are there, it's the sociopolitical will is what gets me wondering.
The common thing i hear is
>okay we built a station on the moon / mars. Now what?
because a colony means that they are self sufficient, and that there is active migration there, even if it only starts off as a trickle. If it's just scientists, it really sets the barrier to entry very high. I'm talking about miners or robot technicans, janitors, etc.
And of course the question will come up of whether or not people can be conceived and born on mars or the moon. That biolotical aspect might require cybernetics and/or genetic engineering, so it might be a ways off.
I think in our lifetimes the best we'll see are scientific stations

>>10439079
There's a reason Andy Weir put fiber optic manufacturing into his new book, it's something you can actually make a lot of money on even if you have to launch the unprocessed glass from Earth due to the improved quality of fiber made in reduced gravity.
>https://www.issnationallab.org/blog/taking-zblan-optical-fiber-production-to-space/

>>10439079
>out lifetime
unless you're fucking 70 now, a "lifetime" is a VERY FUCKING LONG TIME
World War 2 was a lifetime ago, and look at all the fantastical fucking development we made in the last god damn 20

>>10439100
I know, my man
But just look at the apollo program
If the sociopolitical will isn't there, the money dries up really fucking fast. Which is why i was mostly focused on that aspect rather than the technical or economic aspects - people and the government have to want to do it.
>>10439099
Yeah that's a good point. But if it's largely automated, that means it wouldn't require many people, unless its just fields and fields of manufacturing plants, which is always a possibility.

>>10439021
Not with the current Democrats.

They'll turn nass into a diversity hire jobs program for climate science. Then blow everything on overpriced and inefficient welfare.

>>10439021
The starship is so god fucking ugly

>>10439426
How is it possible to have such shit taste?

>>10439473
I don't know man, ask Elon. His choice in girlfriends is also more than just questionable.

>>10439520
>talulah riley
>amber heard
>questionable
We all know you're just trying to change the subject because you objectively have bad taste

>>10438781
cringe

>>10438888
based

Hmmm https://phys.org/news/2019-03-welding-breakthrough.amp

>>10439609
Yep they will be using this for sure, very cool shit.

>>10439607
>being excited for the future of humanity is cringe
>being a faggot is based
jej

>>10439630
>crying because of a video
Are you either a woman or a faggot.

>>10439576
Talulah Riley is ugly af.

>>10439630
Being excited about space shit is one thing

Repeatedly watching cringe Reddit tier shit where they cut some gay pop culture music over the top of a cool event and crying when something happens is so fucking cringe.

>>10439520
At least she doesn't have a unibrow.

>>10438781
falcon heavy is the least impactful rocket ever developed

>>10439634
>>10439640
>>10439646
autism

>>10439636
>t. engineer

>>10439035
Would they really be this visible as is shown in the video? I doubt such small balls could make such a big flare.

>>10435125
I know there is a huge trend going on towards "reusability" in rocketry but I honestly fucking hate the fact that after wasting hundreds of billions during Space Shuttle there is even more money being thrown down that pithole. Reusability doesn't work, we're not even close. NASA failed with Space Shuttle, SpaceX failed with Falcon 9, BO failed with New Shepard, and the russians flew the Buran one time and then never touched the concept again because they quickly learned it's not going to work. It's really fucking ironic that ULA out of all the companies are the ones that are probably going to come out of this whole thing as the top dog because they are the only ones not wasting money on it.

>>10439701
>SpaceX failed with Falcon 9
Okay
The shuttle sucked due to bureaucracy, it could have been a good vehicle

>>10439719
It did, they are refurbishing every booster for months, the Block 5 is no different to previous blocks. It's a meme that is costing loads of money, and more importantly: time. Instead of just starting to build up a space infrastructure with what you have we are chasing reusability since 50 years because apparently it is too expensive, although launching is actually the cheapest part of space travel. SpaceX spend around 2 billion on developing their whole Falcon family from Falcon 1 to Falcon Heavy while they spend 3 billion on developing a single capsule. It's so retarded. Just imagine what could have been done if instead the US would have invested into ~5 Saturn 5 launches per year for the last 50 years. We would have a large station in LEO, a fuel producing base on moon, a fuel stop station in moon orbit, and would have stepped foot on Mars and asteroids several times. Instead we are still chasing reusability, a concept that has been disproved numerous times and won't save you that much money anyways, even if it works.

holy fuck this shilling is transparent
>reusability is bad
>SpaceX failed with falcon 9
>mcfucking ULA is going to become top dog
please refer to rule 3, no trolling outside of /b/

>>10439646
That's not the black arrow.

>>10439805
I hate ULA. You might hate Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos but at least with those two it is clear that they are just giant space nerds that want to see cool space shit become reality, the ULA just wants to fill their pockets. Nevertheless, they are right on reusability being a meme.

>>10439735
rocket reusability is a stepping-stone for in-situ refueling, and is therefore vital to Musk's professed intentions to expand humanity.

>>10439501

>>10439501
>>10439857
That's adorable. Hopefully that stirs some extra public attention for spaceflight.

Saw a post on reddit saying the most people that have been in space at one time is 13. We should break that soon:
>ISS
3+ people
>Commercial crew
3+ people
>China
3+ people
>Suborbital tourism
3+ people

That's at least 12, and easily 20 in some possibilities. That doesn't even include the Gateway and Starship.

>>10440108
What do you mean with commercial crew? Also those few minutes suborbital tourists are going to spend in space shouldn't count.

>>10438585
Because it's cool?

>>10440183
Gonna have to agree with you that the benchmark should be "people in ORBIT at the same time". Sub-orbital is too easy and too fleeting in comparison.

>>10440233
Hmm, I guess I mean people in orbit or higher. Being in TLI or Mars transit should count too.

>>10440183
commercial crew = dragon / starliner, the ships that ferry people to and from the ISS

>>10440239
TLI is a greater Earth system orbit
Mars transit is heliocentric orbit
both are still orbits

>>10440183
>Also those few minutes suborbital tourists are going to spend in space shouldn't count.
It counts but I don't think they should be labeled as astronauts like the suborbital companies are pushing for.

>>10440291
Pounding ground is still a heliocentric orbit.

>>10440292
Well if those count towards the record will fall easily. New Shepard alone will carry 6 people.

>>10435469
>women on my screen NOOOOOO

>>10440301
I think it would still fall soon even if nobody counts suborbital, especially if the ISS returns to having 6 people on it.
ISS = 6, Dragon = 3, Chinese space station = 3, Shenzhou = 3. That's 15 right there.

>>10440329
Crew Dragon is designed for up to 7 seat capacity, NASA just didn't need more than 3. The one that's up there right now has 4 seats, count 'em.

>>10440340
I know it can do 7 but I don't know if NASA will ever use more than 4. I'm saying 3 because it's a conservative estimate.

Scaffolding is coming down...

And SpaceX have bought a fire truck

Elon 5 years ago:
>I'm going to beat NASA to Mars! NASA can suck my dick, I will go there within 10 years while these ass hats can't do shit

Elon now:
>P-please Mr NASA give me some c-contracts for your awesome lunar gateway, p-please Mr NASA. Then a-afterwards we can maybe go to Mars together?

This dude is a major disappointment.

>>10440402
Did he ever specifically trash talk NASA? I don't think he did, he seems perfectly fine with working with NASA if it helps his goals.

>>10440423
I don't remember him changing his tune at all actually, he's always said that he can't do Mars on his own, he can only build the rockets.

>>10440423
>Did he ever specifically trash talk NASA? I don't think he did
I don't think he did, either. He's gone out of his way to express the limited scope of his interests (launch services) while having nothing but praise for NASA.

>>10440439
>>10440436
>>10440423
Cultists of course quick to jump to defend their cult leader. I'm maybe a bit older than you, but beating NASA was for a very long time his No. 1 buzz word.

>>10440449
it still is, he's aiming to absolutely humiliate NASA in the launch game. Doesn't mean he can have his company get to Mars on their own.

>>10440449
>Cultists of course quick to jump to defend their cult leader.
Unfounded accusation.

The only thing I've heard thats even close to Elon saying he'll "beat NASA" was his "Do it." jab against Boeing. Maybe reinforcing your arguments with references to what he actually said would make people consider your points more seriously.

Also being rude about something will only make people be rude back. The only "cultists" you see are the ones you're making with your toxic attitude. I suggest you adjust it.

>>10440465
Is this your first day on the internet my son? Elon Musk cult has taken over Rick and Morty cult as the most annoying on the internet, once that new season drops it's probably going to be a tough battle between these two.

the report button exists for a reason

>>10440478
Care to show examples of this "Elon Musk cult" being annoying? Because I don't see any examples on this thread.
You seem like you just want to blindly hate something. You should do something about that.

Stop giving it (You)s.

>>10440495
I'm not hating you cultists, I'm laughing at you.

https://twitter.com/spacecoast_stve/status/1102989329037697025

>>10440528
Sure dude, whatever makes you feel better.

>>10440530
Octagrabber aside. I'm always a little bit surprised by how big the Falcon is whenever I see someone stand next to it. You can probably lay it on its side, hollow it out, and turn it into a quaint house.

>>10440537
it's aluminum-lithium with small margins, I'm not sure how well it'd handle being laid on it's side

>>10440537
If you like living in a 3m diameter house yeah.

How do I become a private astronaut by 2030 or so? I'm 26.

>>10440567
By making enough money to buy a ticket.

>>10440568
A real one.

>>10440537
>Octagrabber aside. I'm always a little bit surprised by how big the Falcon is whenever I see someone stand next to it. You can probably lay it on its side, hollow it out, and turn it into a quaint house.

Imagine writing bullshit like this but denying you are a cultist.

Looks like I'm going to have to add a new word to my filter.

>>10440563
Have you even seen HGTV? There are people who live in refitted cabooses and shipping containers.
It's crazy. They'll show a small shitty horse stable that looks like it's one stiff wind away from being a pile of wood and then it gets turned into a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house with an open concept kitchen and a garage.

>>10440575
Get a university degree in engineering or science and then join the US military and become a pilot.

>>10440586
>join the US military
I've been mulling over how to avoid this step. Aren't I too old to start pilot training anyways?

More information about the "destructive" engine test Elon mentioned:

"The following is the rumor around McGregor. This is hearsay/second hand+ third hand so keep that in mind.
With that disclaimer noted:
We will use the final SN1 test which was the semi destructive test that was the end of the first campaign.
For this test:
Normal thrust: 195-230 Mt/f
Normal ISP: 240-290 secs (film cooling and preburner mix experimentation was going on in every firing)"

"For destructive 7.9 second test:
*steady state* thrust: 290 MT/f
Instantaneous max *pushed performance* thrust: 300-380 MT/f
Isp: 260-310 secs (exact value unknown)
Chamber pressure at this setting is unknown but is rumored to have been over 310 bar. LOPB pressure is unknown but would have been very high."

"85% power rating thrust unknown"


"So goes the rumored numbers anyway. The team was experimenting with the mix ratios and other things the entire time. They adjusted the preburner performance of both prebuurners several times and there were several firings just on prebuurners only without full ignition. Film cooling was also being adjusted from test to test."

"Took all of this with a large amount of salt when I heard it firsthand but the low ISP (right now) does not surprise me. The second is ND engine should perform much better."

"Given the BFH and BFS schedule I would expect to see the second engine on the stand not too far down the road. I do not know of any "delays"."

>>10440591
Well, there is no formal requirement so anybody can apply at NASA. I think there are several tens of thousands applications every year that are actually getting reviewed. Obviously, only very few of those get picked, and most of them are people who have both a military and scientific background, but some are not military. All have relevant scientific degrees though I think.

>>10440591
Or be a scientist working on something that can involve space. More than a few astronauts, even going back to Apollo, were scientists, and hired as scientists.

>>10440599
>"85% power rating thrust unknown"

What is this referring to?

>>10440599
I hope the tests go well for them. I know personally how stressful and tedious they can be.

>>10440607
>>10440603
My degree is in mechatronics. Should I try to expand past that into more research based fields? I actually would like to be a pilot or work in aeronautics in general. Thank you for the answers my guys.

>>10440352
What?

>>10440638
In case Shotwell drops a new mixtape.

>>10435635
He was clearly denying the redditor a (you), lurk moar

>>10440622
Well, you should either go full research and get close to research facilities that are close to NASA, and then eventually become a researcher for NASA, while staying physically very fit. Or you should become a really great US military pilot. If you are both, you are basically guaranteed a spot.

>>10436313

>orbited the rocket, boosters and all

How can we compete?

>>10440660
That just makes him look even more lame.

>>10440665
What kind of research would help? Something related to engineering?

>>10440599
that's cool, what's your source

>>10440622
get a huge work experience and great resume, then get a bunch of good references, then wait for them to need to send people who know how to get shit done on Mars

Scott Manley just released a video on Iran and Best Korea
cool shit, there's not much info out there on what they're doing and especially not in this convenient of a form

>>10440762
NSF, there's a bunch of information circulating around from McGregor locals about the specifics of the quickly becoming infamous 'destruction test'. This particular excerpt is from L1 but similar information has also appeared in L2 which makes it much more credible.

>>10440786
I don't believe a word of that but whatever
I wonder when the next engine goes up?

>>10440329
what the hell how did they put 13 people in iss

>>10440694
Anything that NASA researches, from engineering to biology. IIRC one astronaut on the ISS also was involved in developing one of the mars rovers. There are basically two ways to become an astronaut, working at NASA or being a military pilot. Very rarely are other people picked, but that can happen, too.

>>10440839
ISS "normal" crew is 6, Shuttle has 7 seats.

>>10440839
I think blue shirts are Space Shuttle crew that didn't stay long.

>>10436470
And Shenzou is just a copy of Soyuz, they bought the plans from the Russians in the 90's when Russia was broke rather than design their own craft.

>>10437735
We've actually given billions to blacks with no positive results, some people can't be helped.

>>10439031
China wasn't invited to the ISS because they only had a couple of manned flights with a Soyuz knockoff and very limited experience in manned orbital operations. They brought very little to the table and their inexperience and reckless disregard for safety could have been a threat.

>>10439646
How's the weather in Moscow, comrade?

>>10439701
The Chinese and the Europeans have already stated their intent to make Falcon-like vehicles.

>>10439818
>>10441138
Black arrow and angara at least had the impact of killing the British and Russian space programs, respectively. Falcon heavy will get used a few times and then forgotten.

>>10437735
Welfare and handouts cannot make the lives of the impoverished better if they're impoverished because of their own choices. If someone has a problem with that, it's their problem.

>>10441154
Blacks are poorer today than they were before LBJ welfare programs. They're poorer than they were in the Jim Crow era. Really makes you think.

>>10441154
>>10441164
>>>/pol/

>>10441168
If you're going to advocate for squandering money on welfare instead of spending it on space programs, I'm going to push back against welfare.

>3 launches planned for Saturday
>one Falcon 9, one Long March 3A, one Long March 3B

>>10437257

>>10441197
That's why I find it so ridiculous that people complain that spaceflight soaks up the federal budget away from "more useful" programs when even at it's height it didn't use more than welfare.

>>10441197
>instead of working, she takes her hungry kids out on a protest

NASA has their two crawlers, but SpaceX has a Roll-Lift™

A glimpse of the future...

>>10440478
>Elon Musk cult has taken over Rick and Morty cult as the most annoying on the internet
Both not nearly as bad nor insidious as the discord tranny and /lgbt/ cult

>>10438640

>>10438629
yes I love this shit

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>>10441277

>>10441276
>>10441277
>>10441280
>>10441281
Makes me really want to play KSP.

>>10441281

>>10441284
Same, especially since Stable Orbit is ded, yet building space stations in there was much more simple

>>10441286

>>10441291

>>10441286
What a coincidence, I was planning on building a station around Mimas to farm science.

>>10441293

>>10441297

>>10441176
Space programs do a lot more than people think. If the space career had never taken place the world of today would be maybe decades behind in tech and science.

>>10441301

>>10441303
https://spinoff.nasa.gov/database/

>>10441305
comfy

>>10441280

>>10440622
also get in good shape, make a habit of doing triatholons or something similar that denotes mental and physical endurance and discipline

>>10441307
I didn't know about that, thx anon

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>>10441307
I remember that site. Wrote an essay for College Writting 1 using that site as a source. Good stuff.

>>10441318
Thank you for being encouraging /sci/, instead of just shitting on my life. Truly the best board. See you space cowboys.

>>10441310
>>10441312
>>10441332
The future that elon has helped us to see, looks very bright indeed

>>10441410
>elon
Who?

>>10441418

>>10436313
what in the fuck is going on in this render? do the chinese have no idea how their own space program works?

>boosters and all in orbit
>some sci fi planet hanging over the horizon
>

>>10440349
makes sense, the cone is getting close to being done

>>10435415
ok but that game had a fun campaign

>>10441461
Often the people who make stuff like that are not the engineers.

>>10441418
He that the legends speak of.

>>10441569
that's cool

what d you fags think

http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/03/a-map-to-planet-nine-charting-the-solar-systems-most-distant-worlds
>A newfound dwarf planet named Farfarout is now the most distant known object in the solar system. And depending on its orbital path, it may help bolster the case for the mysterious Planet Nine.

For me the idea of an undiscovered potential 9th planet fills me with excitement, theres still much to discover in our own backyard.

And of course it would mean another candidate for a new horizons like investigation, hell maybe they could even direct NH towards it if we can find it and it still has the fuel

When is dragon coming back?

>>10441332

>>10441709
Friday, I think.

taco truck stopped by the Boca Chica site again tonight

a SpaceX employee posted a video of what they were serving

>>10441748
What the absolute fuck is that, and how the fuck are you supposed to even eat it.

>>10441721
is that really how it is attached, I thought they would detach the mass simulator for some reason

>>10441773
>and how the fuck are you supposed to even eat it
like you would any other mexican meal :)

>>10441748
back to >>>/ck/ with you

>>10441748

>>10441804

>>10441811
Ok this one looks legit bretty tasty though

>>10441811
is that cocaine?

>>10441748
this is excellent comedy. I kept thinking it had to stop, and he just kept on going

NASA should move an asteroid to the L3. Something big enough to be seen by the naked eye in a city night.

>>10441842
NASA can barely put a toy car on Mars for billions of dollars and you expect them to be able to move a huge fucking asteroid around the solar system?

>>10441844
Just wait until China sends a manned mission around the Moon before NASA. You'll see NASA get competent real damn quick.

>>10441849
Lul you think democrats are going to fund NASA to do all this space shit?

>>10441811
thats heart disease and the shits thats what that is

>>10441849
That would rely on NASA being free of 4 year election cycles as well as actually hiring the most qualified people, not having diversity quotas. Also

>Government agency
>Competent

Kek SpaceX has accomplished more in 10 years in terms of rocketry than NASA has since the end of Apollo.

>>10441860
Didn't the Obama administration start the commercial crew program?

>>10441871
NASA was competent during Apollo because national pride was on the line due to the Soviets. If China were to do the same, then the US government would suddenly stop caring about diversity hires in NASA so long as they make the world take America seriously in space again.

Although that's not to rag on SpaceX, let's hope that they don't loose their stride.

>>10441860
once trump is out of office, nasa projects are going to get defunded fast, honestly the best way to protect nasa is to hide projects and missions within the military budget so people dont fuck with it. We could spend 1trillion dollars on a fucking f35 development but god forbid we want to complete rocket designs and test them out...NOPE...the budgets too high.

>>10441882
what a fucking moron

>>10441882
To be fair, NASA probably doesn't have the lobbying power like the military.

Meanwhile in the military, lets keep an expensive tank in production because if we stop and a country is stupid enough to declare war on us it'll be sooooo expensive to restart production even though we get so much money that we can use franklins as toilet paper.

>>10441880
>national pride was on the line

Haven't you heard? National pride is literally Hitler.

>>10441849
China planning manned moon landing somewhere around early 2030s.
Do you really think that NASA will fail it even with budget shortages?

>>10441939
First, I meant a lunar flyby, not a landing.
Second, considering how delayed the SLS is, it could be a possibility. My confidence with SLS is low, even if I think it's necessary.

>>10441885
obviously you forget bush era projects canceled by clinton and bush jr era projects cancelled by obama.
liberals hate trump so much they will cancel any trump era space projects.
Nasa should understand this and try to fast track projects before administrations change hand

>>10441569

>>10441882
>hide it in the military budget
at this rate they'll defund the military before NASA

>>10441569
>Werhner von Braun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio

>>10441948
>My confidence with SLS is low, even if I think it's necessary
Wasn't it approved by obama's administration just because congress forced them? Is there any real use to this thing beyond going to the moon again more than 50 years later or can it be used to make mars missions? Will it have any sense if private companies develop cheaper and better rockets?

>>10442265
>Is there any real use to this thing beyond going to the moon again more than 50 years later or can it be used to make mars missions? Will it have any sense if private companies develop cheaper and better rockets?
SLS' ability to support even Moon missions is tenuous at best, due to the extreme cost of the rocket itself as well as the additional mass of the Orion capsule as compared to Apollo. Mars missions are totally out of the question. The biggest utility of SLS outside of manned missions to the Moon will be the ability to send very heavy probes to the planets, and medium probes to the ice giants Uranus and Neptune, on fast trajectories. The ability to go directly to Jupiter and not have to do any gravity assists can take multiple years off of a mission travelling time. That being said, if commercial alternatives with high energy upper stages and similar payload capacity are developed they will almost certainly be much cheaper and will completely remove any justification for SLS.

>>10442265
>Is there any real use to this thing beyond going to the moon again more than 50 years later
Yes, keeping SRB engineers employed, because muh ICBMs.

>>10441990
And there are some retards yelling
>TRUMP IS KILLING OUR CAPABILITY SPACE
At least we have SpaceX I guess.

>>10442418
#ConsiderThis: In all heavier-than-air jet planes (like Jumbo Jets), if one or multiple jet engines fail, only one jet engine is required stay in the air! There is no explanation yet from Boeing or NASA as to how Jumbo Jets can stay in the air with only a SINGLE ENGINE operating on ONE (not both) wings. Remember the movie Memphis Belle (1990)? Remember at the end of the movie, the B-17 Bomber was flying with only a SINGLE ENGINE operating ONLY ONE WING? Why didn’t the plane immediately drop to one side? The Big Secret: #AntiGravity (or Electromagnetic) technology secretly keeps the planes afloat once the (noisy) jet engines are running, while propellers are only used to move the plane forward. EM is 10\^39 more powerful than Gravity, thus anti-gravity technology is trivial and simple to design, and was invented a very long time ago. Starting in WW2, this technology was built into the planes in such a way that their own pilots and engineers did not realize it. This was the only way they could get these TEENAGE PILOTS into the planes and send them hundreds of miles on bombing raids. Older vets would have objected to the global air-force bombings, and they still do today, thus all pilot decision making has been replaced by AUTOMATED DRONE AI.

SLS about to be delayed yet again

https://spacenews.com/nasa-reassessing-date-for-first-sls-launch/

DM-1 booster landing

>>10442728
we've got to do something about the schizo problem on this board

>>10442819
>using a hashtag on 4chums
Definitely a problem. Gonna have to find a new filter word now.

>>10442754
So how many delays has that been now? Just of the first launch date, and since it got named SLS, no need to complicate matters with Ares, etc.