/sci/ - Science & Math

but is he whooping me though?

this kind of humor is probably funny to redditors

Further proof that intelligence is mostly environment, much like all other supposedly genetic traits.

>>10434576
Reading about chaps like these makes me realize how much of my life I've wasted, and how much of my life my parents allowed me to waste as a young child.

>>10434721
No, you idiot, it doesn't.
Not only was he an Ashkenazi, the ethnic group with the highest genetic IQ, but his father was also a very intelligent man.

But accomplishment wise he didn’t do much remember the “Von neumann architecture” wasn’t even his work

>>10434914
Isn't this what happens to lot of child prodiges and geniuses? They focus too much on "puzzles" and not enough on legacy.

>>10434721
Then explain how Jacob Barnett is a failure you absolute mong.

>>10434932
a) That's a premature conclusion.
b) He is quite literally autistic, despite the memes this is a debilitating developmental disorder and virtually all persons of note have been developmentally normal.
c) There is no telling what quality of education he received, based on the anecdotes regarding von Neumann and considering the general decline of Western educational standards I would assume it was inferior.
>>10434743
>his father was also a very intelligent man
Hence he facilitated an extremely stimulating, intellectual environment and introduced relatively complex, syntactic and interpretive tasks at a young age, whereas most modern parents refuse to even read "Cat in the hat" for their children.

>>10434576
>He read his way throughWilhelm Oncken's 46-volumeAllgemeine Geschichte in Einzeldarstellungen.
It always amazes me that these kind of books exist. There must be dozens of completely forgotten ancient European treatises that run into the tens of thousands of pages

>>10434952
>... virtually all persons of note have been developmentally normal.
Please refer to your (a):
>That's a premature conclusion.
Also, it should be noted, that even low-hanging fruit like Einstein were almost certainly neurodivergent.
His brain was considerably smaller, had novel neurological physiology and his social intelligence has been called into question (note how he used to treat his wife and children).
So no, one of the mote noteworthy STEM examples, that practically everyone knows about, was clearly neurodivergent and probably either had Asperger's or high-functioning autism.

>>10434952
>Hence he facilitated an extremely stimulating, intellectual environment and introduced relatively complex, syntactic and interpretive tasks at a young age, whereas most modern parents refuse to even read "Cat in the hat" for their children.
You're an idiot. Conidering studies have confirmed a strong genetic component to intelligence.
Again, take the low-hanging fruit of Einstein, terrible father, many of his children and grandchildren have a above-average to gifted intelligence.

>>10434970
Well, monks would spend almost all of their time either praying, doing chores; reading or writing.
So, one would imagine that they would have produced quite the collection of, sadly lost, literature.

A lot of these stories are all hagiographic made up bullshit. Sure, he was smart, but these stories about mathematicians are smoke and mirrors for brainlets. I can guarantee it's the same with Gauss and Euler. This is all third degree hearsay from colleagues of colleagues of colleagues. First of all, anyone can do impressive mental with certain mental tricks and practice. And certainly people are unequal in intelligence. But these "feats of genius" of the great mathematicians in history are almost certainly made up.

There is not one instance of a photographic memory existing besides Kim Peek (a retard whose brain basically grew to have one because all his other brain matter was fucked up so everything went into memory basically). I couldn't find anything reputable on Von Neumann being able to totally memorize entire books in one look from childhood in different languages, only parts of ones he found enjoyable.

Also, you have to consider the fact that Jews like to exaggerate each other's achievements. For example, Von Neumann never invented the "Von Neumann" architecture, any time he worked on something even briefly he was awarded credit for it because Jews help each other out and exaggerate stories of each others' genius. Like the bogus 115iq figure and how they trumped up Einstein as the greatest genius ever even though he plagiarized Hilbert and Lorentz.

>oy I worked with von neumann in da ghetto before Hitlah gassed us 7 times, he could multiply 6 million digit numbahs in his head!!!

I don't doubt he was brilliant and he was definitely the best applied mathematician probably ever but you have to take these retarded stories with a grain of salt. They are about as historical as the apple falling on Newton's head. And even if they were true, the best mathematicians of the 20th century had no such talents but instead were pretty gifted people that just worked really hard, like Tarski or Groethendieck.

>>10435048
keep coping

>>10435048
Oy, listen here punim. Just because you're meschugener over Yeshua's gift to us, doesn't give you the chutzpah to glitch to schlep your antisemitic views and pose them as gospel! Oy vey, you putzy shagetz goyim.

>>10434576
>spacing between greentexts
>>10434952
Actually, have there been any great mathematicians who were literal autists and not just meme autists?

>>10435085
>https://www.sciencealert.com/autism-spectrum-disorder-mathematical-ability-hyper-systemised-thinking

>>10435087
I literally don't care about how autism affects the capability to do arithmetic, I'm talking actual maths research and autism.

>>10435048
Truth

>>10434576
Yes thank you for the daily dose of "making me feel useless"

>>10436566
you shouldnt tether self worth to vague notions of superiority. It is an unseemly and immature thing. The sooner you can accept that there are people out there who are effortlessly better than you in every endeavor you care about the better off you'll be.

>>10434743
>Ashkenazi
Lol no wh*teboy Von Neuman was an ethnic Somali

>>10434576
A kike in the ebd

>>10436574
That sounds like the ultimate cope

>>10436578
goyishe kopf detected

>>10436579
If it cannot be helped then it must be accepted.

>>10436581
How do you know it can't be helped?

>>10435083
Worshipping yourselves for 5000 years. Do you think this made you narcissistic psychopathic liars or was it that you were always narcissistic psychopathic liars

>>10436584
Self improvement will only take you so far, everyone has hard limitations, and accepting that your limitations are below those of some others is a part of growing up.

It pisses me off that people like this are allowed to exist. If I could, I would make every woman carrying a baby with an IQ above 160 miscarry.

>>10436594
Who decides what your limitations are? They could be underestimating your abiliies.

>Ulam was the more original mathematician of the two, though he accomplished far less in mathematics than von Neumann did; Von Neumann had an incomparably stronger technique. From their free play of ideas came some of the great advances in applied mathematics: the Monte Carlo method, mathematical experiments on the computer, cellular automata, simulated growth patterns.

>Stan never had the patience to leaf through published research papers. He hated to learn from others what he thought he could invent by himself — and often did.

>One day in the sixties I found him lying on the sofa in his living room in Santa Fe with the day's newspaper underneath him. He tore of a piece of paper at a time, read it and threw it to the floor. He would not bring himself to make the effort of standing up and removing the paper from his back.
t. rota

the polymath-virgin btfo by lazy math-chad

>>10436594
>accepting that your limitations are below those of some others is a part of growing up
So is accepting responsibility for your own problems and failures.

>>10434914
Hahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaahhah

What the fuck??

Hahahaahahahahhahahhaahhahahaha

Kill yourself.

>>10435048
Surprised you didnt get the back to pol comments yet

>>10436859
>incomparably stronger technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tQmr_iYzBo