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The popularization of science through science communicators and liberal propaganda has lead to the declining quality of people studying STEM. It has lead mediocre, untalented students like me to believe they were smarter than they truly are. Of course, with some practice anyone can learn to pass the tests assigned to us. But this only furthers the illusion that we are truly fit for the field. Like the hamster running in the wheel idiots like us will keep accumulating more and more knowledge. For what purpose? We aren't brilliant enough to apply the information we have crammed into our brains to generate new knowledge and make discoveries. The accumulation only serves to keep making us feel smart. Thousands of women, ethnic minorities, and literal retards have fallen for the liberal propaganda that everyone regardless of their abilities must be encouraged to pursue science. While they were only fit to teach retarded kids math in grade school they embark on a PhD with the goal of becoming one of the greats minds. Of course, when they find themselves in a position where they have to start applying what they have learned, they quit. And thus they become science communicators on youtube, furthering the cycle, encouraging more retards to enter the field just because they can grasp dumbed down information presented to them in a manner that is more similar to entertainment than thorough learning. Science is not supposed to be pleasurable. Science is suffering. People need to stop presenting it like something fun lest more idiots keep entering the field.

>> No.10432538

based elitist schizo poster

>> No.10432556

Based actually brilliant STEM PhD here

OP I went to school with folks like you and I just felt bad the whole time. You vould have been a very successful normie with lots of money, instead you're a highly trained do-nothing roped into perpetuating the college bubble.

Rough.

>> No.10432616

>>10432530
She's pretty cute desu

>> No.10432702
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10432702

>>10432530
the meme isn't college or STEM
the meme is that you think insights come from elite talent and not from spending day and night reading, thinking, and experimenting
in the time you spent writing that autistic drivel you could have read at least the introduction and conclusion of a paper you hadn't seen before.

>> No.10432713

>>10432702
how slow do u write dude damn

>> No.10432717

>>10432713
How slow do you read?

>> No.10432718

>>10432530
woah, she's not looking so great.... did toby start doing crack or something after she quit her phd?

>> No.10432724

>>10432530
I've noticed this too. It's a big problem. There are just so many people in universities that it really doesn't feel like you're surrounded by smart people.

>> No.10432729

>>10432702
he makes a good point.

>> No.10432761

>>10432702
Yeah but you took the time to read and reply so I guess we can't always be purely studious

>> No.10432763

>>10432556
What career would make a lot of money that you have in mind?

>> No.10432819

>>10432761
The difference is he isn't whinging about being inadequate.

>> No.10432873

>>10432702
Dedication goes hand in hand with IQ.

>> No.10432877

>>10432530

Comn now... taint nobody fault but your own that you are a trash student and a excuse making bitch.

Don't blame bill nye and the libs that your undisciplined ass is gonna join the multitudes of mediocrity that colleges churn out. If you really wanna say that your decisions in life are influenced by media and politics then you should just drop out and assume your true vocation of being a nihilistic shitposting /pol/ incel and then join a suicide pact of 40 year old doomers whose lives didn't go anywhere.

Shit i'd legit bet money that your gonna attempt a suicide at some point in life.

>> No.10432927

It doesn't matter. None of it matters. The Chinese will kill us all soon anyway.

>> No.10433055

Kys

>> No.10433237

>>10432873
Lol, what about people like based CTMU man?

>> No.10433306

>>10432718
Na she's always looked like that. I went to university with her during undergrad and she looked basically the same then as she does now.

>> No.10433795

>>10432530
No one here is ever going to do anything famous (unless they suicide spectacularly), so we all might as well be working at Starbucks. Just do a competent job and take interesting vacations. Enjoy your life and stop worrying about everyone else.

>> No.10433814

>>10432530
how does liberal propaganda affect STEM? you mean lobbying for gender quotas?

>> No.10433842

>>10433814
the idea that everybody is equal in ability and equally talented, the unwillingness to admit that some people are just pain superior to others

>> No.10433856

>>10432530
A lot of people think that they're smarter than average. Because it's impossible really to compare two intelligences, so impossible to point if this guys is average or smarter than average.

Because of this, a lot of people started living in the illusion that they're genius, that they have potential, blablabla. It a defense mecanism that allows them to feel different, superior, and of course safe.

I'm talking to anyone who'd dare read this text : you're not smarter than everyone. Wake up. You're average. It's okay to be average. Many of the most influential men of this decade have average intelligence.

>> No.10433881

You seem to think that you have to be Watson & Crick or Einstein or Banting & Best to be a scientist. You are wrong. The great, famous scientists that made the greatest discoveries were enabled to do so by the thousands of lab workers that built the scientific basis upon which the final flag of discovery was placed by some "genius". Not only did they allow for the final discovery to be made, they also uncovered dead ends by publishing their failed results. No one remembers those, but without them no great advances could have been made. The scientific community needs these mediocre scientists; their knowledge can still be applied to systematic exploration of the unknown, perhaps under the leadership of a greater visionary.

The main virtue of having so many people with PhDs is that perhaps our governments will increase their spending on research since an increasing percentage of the population wants them to, besides the logical goal of returning the investment made to give them their graduates and PhDs.

Additionally, critical thinking isn't taught be the government, it is taught by the academy since they don't want fickle people in their research groups. The scientific community has always been very critical towards new theories until they are complete and proven most likely by independent research. An increased level of education among the populace will at the very least give us more informed voters.

>> No.10433921

>>10433795
Second this. Though, I would rather catch an icepick than have to work at a place like Starbucks. I got a taste of retail working at a dying Blockbuster. That experience pushed me to get a STEM PhD. Decided to go into industry and enjoy life instead of toiling in academia. Now I design proteins to cure rare diseases and cancer.

If there is a problem right now, it's the stigma that going into academia is the more "correct" path for a PhD in hard science because it's more noble or whatever. The reality is that academic jobs are becoming harder to attain because of improved quality of life and the way the tenure system works. It's painful to watch bright and/or hard-working people struggle in the post-doc spiral and become disenchanted with scientific research, when their efforts could be put toward helping some companies solve very real problems in society beyond how to make the next seasonal latte.

>> No.10433988

As a teacher in a university, I can fully confirm this

>> No.10434000

>>10432530
I want to fuck tibees

>> No.10434336

>>10432530
I have some black kid in my thermo class who's hands down the most autistic person I've ever seen and probably will see. He asks 5 questions per class, once it was just "I didn't hear that other student's question, what was it?" and I saw him hand a tissue to a random coughing person behind him while he was asking some pointless question without even looking at the person behind him... it would be hilarious if it didn't waste class time.

>> No.10434344

>>10434336
There is literally nothing wrong with that. You just have autism.

>> No.10435599

>>10432530
FUCK ALL OF U
TOBY IS HOT AF

>> No.10435636

>>10432761
By writing that he further crystallized his understanding of his own point, for the rest of his life driving his motivation to learn up by +0.1%, very worth 4 minutes

>> No.10435650

>>10434344
>t. guy who stops lecture for inane questions

>> No.10435652

>>10434336
Absolutely based black kid

>> No.10435673

>>10435599
t. virgin

>> No.10435683

>>10434000
i can't believe this bitch's content though. "this is what a physics exam looks like".
One of her recent videos is "three puzzles for the algorithmically inclined" now i knew she's shit so it wasn't going to be some well produced Infinite Series type thing but i thought, let's click and see if she wrote some puzzles or whether she is representing famous ones. It was even worse - it's fucking coursework material from some crummy online mooc she's taking. This chick is just a vlogger and a bad one

>> No.10436081

>>10432877
t. based ex military nuclear shill

>> No.10436116

>>10432530
That's not the problem
Historically there have been very few universities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_universities_by_date_of_foundation
The total number of intelligent people who are "brilliant" no longer reaches the number of places available, or the economic demand; and so we require plebs to get education and fill those vacancies.

Until we can replace retards with AI, they will be needed to provide a marginal benefit to the economy and research. Although, AI will probably rapidly replace the best humans shortly after.

About 44% of the income of universities (in the UK) comes from student fees; the money you pay to get a degree. So there is at least an economic reason to make classes as large as possible.

I don't understand this idea that there is some liberal agenda leading more people to go to university.
The jobs of the future aren't those which only require high school diplomas. I will concede that the US agenda of affirmative action is largely bullshit (at least on a simplistic level). Regardless, if you don't educate people to do "positive sum" jobs, then you're just wasting the potential of marginal gains and forcing people to do "zero sum" work; i.e work that overall only provides for others who do zero sum work, where if those people never existed nothing of value would be lost

and, we're not going to euthanise all the useless people because "muh morality", so why waste resources on them doing pointless work and ruining our long term by soil degradation, gene pool dilution, overburdening transportation, producing too much pollution, etc

tl;dr either euthanise plebs (below 140 IQ) or use them as tools to improve our research output

>> No.10436149

>>10435650
>Asking questions is autistic
>Offering people a tissue is autistic
>Complaing about blacks with better social skills then me on a Tuvian paper craft website is not autistic.

I bet that nigger has more friends then you.

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10436162

So you all want to submit to predicate logic BEFORE your independent genius flowers? None of you want to pull a Newton and just derive laws of nature to gift other humans intellectually by working the land?

Suffering genius and becoming genius are two different things.

>Read N books for X length to achieve Y understanding of Z variables.

Nobody wants to like, I dunno, invent a new CONCEPT of a variable instead of a nomial with with poly-variables?

>> No.10436172

Mathematically inquiring, the detachment of a binary complement would be of great interest to the field. When can bonded variables be safely excluded from the associations of future inputs?

I guess that is boundary and limits
Z-X*Y = Z(X+Y)

One-sheeted hyperboloid

>> No.10436219

>>10435683
Yes her content is strange and I do not understand how she took off, but I have a thing for this type of girl

>> No.10436234

>>10436219
>I do not understand how she took off
i know that she came up recommended on the side of any sci related vid for a while - and i think it even said 'promoted' so i guess either she paid or got some 'woemon in science' sponsorship. this seems like a shrewd move, however it may have yet misfired since a large portion of her resultant views seem to come from Indians whose clicks and views are worth NOTHING in terms of adsense revenue

>> No.10436276

>>10436234
wut? adsense rev is based on location?

>> No.10436355

>>10433856

That's not how normal distributions work. There are quite some percentiles you can be in between being smarter than everyone (100th) and being exactly average (50th). All of those percentiles imply you're smarter than average, be it by a bit (50-55th) or by a lot (95-100th).

>> No.10436405

>>10436276
adsense can be targeted to certain areas, you don't want to pay money to show ads for high priced products in indian slums where they won't buy them anyway

>>10436234
That makes sense, she is not flashy enough to attract the retards and not thot enough to attract enough waifufags

>> No.10436411

I lost respect for her in a moment, where ahe said that despite having studied some topic years ago, she really only understood the relevance of it after watching a numberphile video

>> No.10436415

>>10432702
This. It's hard to devote time to thinking, reading, and experimenting when the macropolitics of the world you live in is clown world shit, everybody hates you, nobody of the opposite sex likes you, and you want to commit suicide all the time.

>> No.10436443

>>10432702
Nah, that's wrong. I study medical engineering and I need to study the whole time from day one at least 4 hours every single day to even pass the exams.
There are students I personally know who do fuck all the entire time, learn one week prior and pass in the top 5%. IQ > dedication, period.

>> No.10436451

>>10436276
Dude how goofy a question is that? do you think showing an ad for a ps4 to someone in the west who has $1k disposable income per month is not going to cost more than showing it to a fucking slumdog who will never afford it in their life (statistically speaking)?

>> No.10436496

>>10436451
yes, I assumed AdSense was naive because it showed ads to me and I will never buy anything based on them. If they have improved over showing random things to everyone in the world it is news to me. What you say makes sense but I didn't realize they were there already

>>10436405
thank you

>> No.10436500

>>10436443

Everyone values highly what he doesn't have. I am one of those guys you describe: I can skip all classes and study 5 days before the exam and get in the top 5%. But you know what I can't do? Focus for more than 5 days straight on anything. And that doesn't get you anywhere.

People who achieve great things are both smart and dedicated.

>> No.10436647

do you think she's a virgin?

>> No.10436708

>>10436500
That's a skill you can learn. Increasing your IQ that much that you can learn complex mechanism in a week at most isn't something you can learn, that's something that is determined in the womb.

So not comparable.