/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10410560
stupid nigger
>>>/pol/

>>10410560
No such thing as Europeans, East Asians or Africans

>>10410560
All humans on Earth (except Africans) have a small amount of neanderthal DNA.

>>10410707
So there are only two distinct races?

>>10410560
You are literally too dumb to understand the argument. Pro-tip: It's not about denying that different peoples have distinct genetic signatures nor necessarily that they have different physical and mental characteristics on a group level.

>>10410560
because genes are retarded, its just combinations of nucleotides fampai
Where you want to draw the distinctions is arbitrary

>>10410560
Stupid nigger. Take your garbage to /pol/

>>10410937
>t. /pol/

>>10410560
It's not. Who told you it was?

>>10410966
>t. /pol/ pretending to not be /pol/

>>10410560
>how is race meaningless when [insert irrelevant factoid here]

>>10410560
Clearly it’s not meaningless. That’s a lie that the media finds convenient.

ITT: High-schoolers who don't understand that the significance of race is the distinct groupings of genomic features which make races distinct. Its almost like people of similar gene structure have been more likely to breed with each other up to this point and still are; its almost like we can measure that history and determine distinct origins.

If you respond "we all came from [x]," you are simply being pedantic.

>>10410560
>>10410707
Why is that the case?

No one in my top-flight department thinks race is meaningless, friend. We just say that because the social consequences would be disastrous otherwise.

It's not and I would say sub Saharan Africans are borderline a separate species.

>>10410560
1.5-2%

woah nothing

>>10410874
So, then, what’s the argument? Because people deny that shit all the fucking time.

>>10411699
this.

>>10411760
Neanderthal's range only extended into parts of North Africa, some Chadic speakers and a few West African groups I believe do have very small amounts of Neanderthal admixture but nothing like Eurasians. Its just biogeographic isolation, ironically the most important force for causing speciation and the formation of subspecies (races).
>>10411828
They aren't Fst values and ecological, morphological variation isn't high enough from eurasians to qualify as a separate species. They are definitely a separate subspecies.

>>10411760
She looks like she fucks thickskulls.

>>10411828
Not to mention abbos. I mean seriously, what the fuck...

>>10411975
If any group was a separate species it would be them but I don't buy it. Too much gene flow from S/SE Asia and primate evolution is much slower than other mammals.

>>10411947
sickle cell and amyloidosis are a few snps, imagine what entire percentages contain

>>10411979
The definition of “species” it kind of arbitrary.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/358/6363/655

>Many Neandertal variants associated with phenotypes and susceptibility to diseases have been identified in present-day non-Africans (6, 7, 10–12). That the Vindija Neandertal genome is more closely related to the introgressing Neandertals allows ~15% more such variants to be identified (20). Among these are variants associated with plasma concentrations of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (rs10490626) and vitamin D (rs6730714), eating disorders (rs74566133), visceral fat accumulation (rs2059397), rheumatoid arthritis (45475795), schizophrenia (rs16977195), and the response to antipsychotic drugs (rs1459148). This adds to mounting evidence that Neandertal ancestry influences disease risk in present-day humans, particularly with respect to neurological, psychiatric, immunological, and dermatological phenotypes (7).

>>10412004
there are vague methods of delineating species from one another, I think most human taxa fail this test when compared. Abbos and certain isolated peoples might come close but still questionable. Pygmies another group that seems like its a good candidate.

>>10412018
Yea. I would definitely call them different subspecies. I’m pretty happy to fall back on the definition being “able to produce viable offspring that can also reproduce”, even though, I think, polar bears and grizzly bears kinda fuck that up.

>>10412014
What is the point of this post?

>>10410707
Africans aren't human