/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10380268
humanity's history is incredibly dark so i seriously doubt it
just look at bondage as a sexual "fetish"

it's always possible, but they did a pretty fucking shitty job if we're the result of all their efforts
>>10380270
this.
not just humanity's history, but the history of most individual humans.

>>10380270
What does that have to do with bondage as a fetish?

>>10380268
I've believed this since early childhood.

We're either much older than we think, or there's large parts of this world's history that have been lost or buried.

>>10380292
bondage was happening regardless. after many years it developed into a thing some people could enjoy and spread around because it helped you survive
have you looked at the skin colour of people on kink.com or other such websites?

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>>10380268
It's possible, but unlikely.

>>10380268
Possible, yes.
A better question is why would you think that?
It's also possible that bananas have been modified by aliens in order to taste better, we just have no reason to think it wasn't ordinary evolution.
I like banana a lot, in case thank you aliens.

>>10380268
Extremely possible.
Just imagine if one day we will be able to create a new form of life and plant it on another planet, maybe a greenhouse on mars. This new life is way less intelligent than we are and they will never be able to understand "us" due to phisical limits of their brain and understanding but we will always be there observing and studying them without interfeering with their development. It doesn't sound impossible.
In my opinion we are arrogant to think that we know everything around us, even the things that seems more near to us. Remember that a fish will never think that there's something beyond atmosphere, because he will never be able to comprehend that until he randomly evolve in a more intelligent form.
Maybe we are fishes in a fishbowl, but one sure thing is that us humans are beginning to discover things that goes beyond our natural comprehension.
Sorry for my bad england

>>10380292
If aliens helped us evolve they would have annihilated us after seeing an average foot-fetishist

No other intelligent species has ever existed.

If they did there would have been no visible stars in the sky,

>>10380268
>Is it possible that an alien species either created humanity or helped our evolutionary development by tampering with our dna?


They were not all that alien, but yes, they did help create humanity, Neanderthal.

>>10380708
That's Shakira

>>10380708
Someone once told me, and I never really researched for myself, that Neanderthals may actually have been the less violent, more artistically inclined out of the two species, and that gave Sapiens an advantange in wiping them out to some extent.
Do you know anything about that? I'm really curious.
>damn bruh got any more of those female neanderthals

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>>10380562
What are you talking about

>>10380268
this is much more likely than humans being created by some magical supernatural being, but not as likely as abiogenesis

>>10380298
>skin colour
your point being...?

>>10380298
I've seen everything from white to black to asian to latino. I'm not sure what i'm supposed to gather from that.

>>10380845
Sci probably hates on it but harari’s sapiens has a few similar speculations - the ruthlessness of sapiens may have been a saving grace - he goes as far as to speculate that the neanderthals were the first victims of genocide

>>10380942
my takeaway from that along with personal experience is that women of all colours enjoy being banged like they owe me money lol

>>10380958
Sounds interesting, i'll check it out thanks

>>10380748
kek

>>10380298
white women are some of the most degenerate people on the planet. I speak from personal experience.

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>>10380268
Is it possible? Yeah.

Is there a shred of evidence for it? No.

>>10380292
I think it's a case of Pic Related.

>>10380562
Not sure that follows. WE exist, but our star is still pretty visible.

>>10380845
That's just an extension of "Man is Bad to Nature" fetishism.

>>10380933
>this is much more likely than humans being created by some magical supernatural being

Please share your data on this.

>>10380497
>A better question is why would you think that?
because "billions" of years of piecemeal accidents producing countless upon countless examples of insane and diverse complexity is laughably impossible and only accepted by brainlets?

>>10382902
>Is there a shred of evidence for it? No.
If a game of roulette landed on black 30 times in a row you'd be absolutely convinced something was artificially guiding it. The far far far less likely occurrence of life perpetually diverging into unfathomably complex species is just like totally a coincidence though bro, nothing to see there or look further into.

>>10380938
>>10381049
>>10382207
the only fertile offspring of the only fertile male neanderthal and female sapiens were the females
as well they're almost all white or asian and blacks are more of an outlier, even when browsing the bondage section of pornhub will you see this
another example of something being put into a gender was a certain lack of finding some things gross

>>10380270
Explain cuckoldry then

>>10383708
girls spread cucks bro. some places in asia (who got rekt by genghis khan) have the males clean up after sex as the norm

>>10380268
yes, we evolved in like only 2M years (should be 10M at least) and we look nothing like apes

>>10380562
It's easier to imagine one/few resilient beings tweaking primitive lifeforms to evolve like them as being more viable than a galaxy engulfing swarm.
It's also easy to imagine what we do is the natural consequence of the several layers of subsequent improvements we are carrying with us in our bodies and transmitting to our offspring and other individuals through society and writing. That doesn't require aliens, though it would be less exciting.

garden eden was the place they made gene editing. emperor god wanted to study us. general lucifer wanted to stop it and let us free. angel soldiers fighted against each other over this. general lucifer won and emperor god abandoned earth. general lucifer destroyed garden eden and humans were free. since then we call general lucifer the bringer of light.
this would actually be a cool book.

Entirely possible, listen up faggots:

>be advanced ayyyy lmao
>through miracles of medicine your civiization is now immortal and doesn't age
>you have hundreds of millions of years free to spare on shitposting
>your only mission now is to developed undeveloped galaxies and form new territory in universe
>you get your own spaceship and bros to travel through galaxies and fuck shit up on the way for lulz
>can travel through universe at incredible speed or use wormholes as shortcuts
>every couple of months you find a perfect spot/planet for life to develop and mark it up in your coordinates for later development
>every couple of years you find new planet that is inhabited with neanderthals or early stages of humans unexpectedly
>you and your bros look at each other and just nod, you know what's about to go down
>descend upon them in your spaceship, as if you ayyy lmao space weed smoking potatoheads are the new KANGZ on the newly found soil
>people start cheering you, believing you are from heaven, in return you give them a little bit of technology and agriculture
>demand all the good looking women to be brought to you so you breed for a few days, before you fuck off to your spaceship
>breed all over the planet, smoke weed and do drugs with your bros on the way, while everybody everywhere thinks the gods have come
>do that in cycles for thousands of years while eating popcorn and witnessing history of hundreds of different planets
>every planet has its own insane stories, wars and development hickups
>go back home after some times with bros, to re-pack and meet old friends
>tell my ayy lmao homies how we convinced some jungle faggots that we name Aztecs to sacrifice their own people and rip out their hearths alive
>everybodyayyyylmaolaugh.jpg
>they give me a pat on the shoulder, saying they convinced some faggots to build traingular shaped home for them and called them pyramids
>greatidea.exe

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>>10383829
>keep shitposting and visiting different sort of planets and trolling the early civilizations for your benefit, to have a few laughs with the bros
>nobody suspects anything
>tfw you forgot to visit them for few thousands of years, because you were busy fucking women on some other planet
>come back, people developed on their own into information stage, but are now wondering what the fuck those things were all about
>get a tear in my eye, reminisce with bros about the old times and look what we gave life to
>theydevelopedsoquickly.jpg
>we figure they don't need our help anymore, since they managed to develop atomic bomb and are 500 years from now to having a breakthrough
>fuck off to next planets we marked we have to seed and laugh at the retarded structures we convinced people to build for us
>talk with ayyy lmao bros how people on Earth are going to grow up to be like them and seed other planets in future
>still baffled how they didn't realize we helped them and that this is what they are going to be doing to other planets in future

such is life of an ayyyyy lmao bois

So unlikely and unfounded that it is essentially pointless to argue for or consider.

There are no real holes in the current understanding of evolutionary science to say that "aliens had to be here to fix this or make it how it is". It's pretty clear from genealogy that humans evolved pretty naturally. It's not a wide stretch of the imagination in any capacity.

>>10383831
It is time to seed the stars boys.
It is time.

>>10383844
>There are no real holes in the current understanding of evolutionary science
/sci/ everybody

>>10384262
What are the holes?

>>10384290
there is one between your legs

>>10383831
It’s funny how a clown costume of all things was the only thing that was needed to be added for me to find pepe arousing

we did it to chickens and dogs, perhaps aliens like watching our tv shows, or feast on our suffering. we can't do anything about it if they are so many times smarter than us.

>>10380268
You live in an isolated part of space with no life for numbers that humanity can't fathom yet. Aliens are you. A creation of self.

>>10383529
This. This means while it is not a statistical impossibility, it does make the seeded earth theory unlikely

>>10383497
>If a game of roulette landed on black 30 times in a row.
Falacious comparison. Imagine instead you have a few billion different roulettes, each one with a person standing behind it and they all spin it. You get 30 blacks in a row and on the basis of that you conclude that someone must’ve tampered with your roulette. The fact of the matter is that out of billions of attempts, someone is basically statistically gaurentied to get 30 blacks in a row and you got lucky.

>>10383529
>as well they're almost all white or asian and blacks are more of an outlier
>another example of something being put into a gender was a certain lack of finding some things gross
i'm confused by what you're saying but it sounds interesting, please explain.
personally, women who don't find things gross are fucking awesome, particularly since i grew up in a hypochondriac germaphobe household

>>10382912
It could be, or it could be a legitimate theory based on actual evidence. In the same way that we can theorize about how some recently introduced species (i.e., invasive species) effected the extinction of native competitors.
t. man who is just a part of nature

>>10380296
Consider the possibility that you're just a retard and neither of your propositions is true.
>>10380708
Those are some proper DSLs. Shame we pulled the ol' Hitler trick on them. If we turned them into sex slaves, it would have been much better.
>>10383497
>producing countless upon countless examples of insane and diverse complexity is laughably impossible
And /sci/ laughs at CS faggots? They at least know what evolutionary algorithms can do in much less than "billions" of generations.

>>10384483
>not realizing that the aliens programmed our evolutionary algorithms in the first place
but really, aliens are simply the latest iteration of intelligent design, god, etc. i have my ideas on why people appeal to such explanations, but in the end it's inevitable i suppose.

>>10380268
makes no sense since the aliens would have to also been created, and then their creators had to be created .....

The most plausible thing is that life creates itself

>>10384522
wish i'd thought of that first. since there must have been *some life form that directly evolved from non-living matter, we may as well assume we did as well, instead of theorizing what abouts to an interstellar ponzi-scheme

>>10384546
>fuck
*what amounts to* an interestellar ponzi-scheme

>>10384546
yes my niggah

>>10384508
>aliens programmed our evolutionary algorithms
There's nothing "programmed" about evolution. You have only one fitness function and it's emergent - "survive".

>>10384450
>Falacious comparison. Imagine instead you have a few billion different roulettes, each one with a person standing behind it and they all spin it. You get 30 blacks in a row and on the basis of that you conclude that someone must’ve tampered with your roulette. The fact of the matter is that out of billions of attempts, someone is basically statistically gaurentied to get 30 blacks in a row and you got lucky.
thanks for telling me something I already knew. I said "far far far" more unlikely. Hence your pleb argument that if we just have a bunch of attempts then it gets more likely was already addressed and it's not a fallacious comparison; it's a perfectly valid analogous comparison on a larger scale and in the smaller scale very everyone immediately thinks/knows there is artificial interference.

>And /sci/ laughs at CS faggots? They at least know what evolutionary algorithms can do in much less than "billions" of generations.
>t. CS larper
No, no evolutionary computer algorithm has produced anything close to the complexity of the simplest life forms. You pulled that straight out of your ass.

>>10383497
>because "billions" of years of piecemeal accidents producing countless upon countless examples of insane and diverse complexity is laughably impossible
you could have simply said "I've never actually studied evolution and don't even pretend to understand it"

>>10383773
>it should be at least 10 million years trust me I'm an expert
>we look nothing like apes
are you shitposting, or legitimately retarded?

>>10384731
>thanks for telling me something I already knew. I said "far far far" more unlikely. Hence your pleb argument that if we just have a bunch of attempts then it gets more likely was already addressed and it's not a fallacious comparison;
The fact that the outcome gets more likely the more tries you have is exactly the point you're missing and is the exact reason that organisms naturally evolving isn't in anyway extremely unlikely, and not even likely but entirely expected.

>>10384868
>The fact that the outcome gets more likely the more tries you have is exactly the point you're missing
no, not in the slightest. I'll recap for you: the relatively much higher probability event in question on a human timescale, roulette being played millions of times all over the world every day and rolling black 30 times in a row, would be deemed artificial if it happened and you'd immediately conclude there was some type of intelligent interference. A far far far (far far far) lower probability event happening some point over a "beyond human" timescale, and even with 10^20 "potential" planets attempting it every day (rofl), should naturally follow the same conclusion that there was intelligent artificial interference if the event occurs, but you arbitrarily decide to not follow the obvious pattern for no reason (well its religious like faith actually). It's that simple.

>evolving isnt in anyway extremely unlikely, and not even likely but entirely expected.
You have absolutely, I repeat absolutely, no idea how likely or unlikely spontaneously developing life would be. There is one data point of life existing and if you assume it was unguided spontaneity it's still literally impossible to assign a probability to a single data point. Evolutionists merely say it's likely because it's uncomfortable for them to think life is unique thus they come up with BS that since it "happened" in "just" 14 BY it must be very likely, which is the same pure idiocy which would deduce that winning a mega lottery on your first try must mean its easy to win the lottery.

The complexity of life and evolutionists complete inability to give a valid explanation to how it came about X many billion years ago is proof it's a highly unlikely event. No mental gymnastics gets around this fact. BTW I'm not assigning probability to a data point, I'm assigning the low probability to a concept. Life existing is irrelevant for my conclusion, its required if you think life is "expected"

>>10380268
>Is it possible that an alien species (...) helped our evolutionary development by tampering with our dna?

If so they forgot the niggers.

>>10384386
And I don't mind filling it, just not with you.

But humans sure are really interesting

>>10380562
Dyson spheres are retarded and will never exist for any intelligent species.

>>10380497
>food analogy

>>10380270
Am I the only person who don't get it? Where the fuck does bondage came from this topic

>>10380268
Not space aliens, but extraterrestrials in a sense. More along 'spiritual' lines rather than that modern 'sci-fi' noise. Watch a few minutes of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEwyT9OGtBY&t=4m5s

>>10386901
Truly amazing. Your webm is proof Theozoology that is real.

read it here:
https://archive.org/details/EuropaHouseTheozoology

>>10387044
Oh god who let in an /x/ schizo

>>10387051
There's been a lot more of these lately. I wonder if something happened.

>>10387044
>webm
>proof
retards like you make the rest of us who are willing to discuss unusual theories look bad

>>10380268
It's not possible evolutionary biologists know our exact timeline and how we came to be. Took billions of years it didn't happen overnightn

>>10386928
No one said anything about dyson spheres. We could also store the matter from the stars somewhere for future use. Either way letting stars burn randomly is a waste of our finite mass-energy that a species will eventually need due to entropy.

Therefor visible stars mean there are no advanced species in the universe.

>>10387033
I think he's saying that the only neanderthals that managed to survive and carry on their genes were those neanderthal sluts who enjoyed getting dominated by the BSC (Big Sapiens Cock). The rest just got slaughtered. So now we have modern day women who are literally descended from proto-kinky neanderthals, and who also enjoy getting plowed in the same manner that ol' granny oogabooga did.

Is having a large, pronounced jaw a sign of neanderthal dna in a french/nordic descended white woman? because the freakiest girl i ever made the mistake of getting to know definitely had those qualities....

>>10387335
forgot to mention the other clue, slightly narrow-set eyes

>>10387317
>Took billions of years it didn't happen overnightn
Geologically it DID happen over night if latest evidence bears out to be true. Quartz shock crystals from the late heavy bombardment show an abundance of carbon byproducts thought to push back the dawn of life to when the solar system was still settling.
Personally I like the theory of panspermia (not the same thing as ancient Ayy lmaos) which puts the idea that the origin of life on earth its extraterrestrial in origin. Venus and Mars both have potential vectors to innoculate earth. In the case of venus atmospheric life could have blown to earth on solar winds, and with mars we've got meteorites we know came from mars, one of which was thought to have microfossils.

>>10384483
>Consider the possibility that you're just a retard and neither of your propositions is true.
Consider the possibility that you have a poorly developed theory of mind, and the null state is implicit. Consider the possibility that when someone is communicating they're not going to tell you literally everything in their head and construct a formal proof, because by all reasonable assumptions, you should be able to infer certain things are your own and think in a less rigid way.

Unless of course you're retarded. In which case you rapidly out yourself and can be dealt with accordingly. How's it feel to be deficient, little man? Are you going to step up, or are you going to double down?

>>10384234
Honestly I'd feel that you want to send someone smaller than your average human. You'd need a lot of food and water to support someone that large.

>>10387685
Consider the possibility that when you throw around crackpot statements with no information value (well in your case it did inform me that you're an imbecile), people with fully developed brain will see you as a retard.

>>10387720
I don't see how it's "crackpot statements". The possibility is the information content. Use it to assess what you already know in a new light.

What's the matter with you anyway?

>>10387306
>caring how normalfags look at you
nu-/sci/ everybody

>>10380268
I can't dismiss the op's idea. However, natural selection would seem to handle the developments.

>>10387709
Manlets seed the universe, the ultimate revenge on chads.

Aliens exist, but spacefaring civilizations do not.

>>10380268
Possible, yes. Highly improbable though, as we have found no evidence that does support this hypothesis that cannot also be explained by other hypotheses.

If we were 'seeded', I believe we were (or still are), nothing more than an experiment, possibly to check if similar environments lead to similar forms emerging dominantly.


Honestly, I don't think so though. We are just a random occurrence.

>>10389180
How can humans be real if our spacecraft aren't real?

>>10380562
Artificial black hole >>> dyson sphere

>>10383497
>If a game of roulette landed on black 30 times in a row
I'd think 'Holy shit, that's not gonna happen again for generation after generation of human existence. Amazing that I was around to see it.'.

>>10380958
I saw a documentary as a kid where actors were playing a group of sapiens moving towards Europe and raping neanderthal females to show dominance and procreate, it was speculated that's how they got slowly wiped out. So it's not really new, I was a kid 20 years ago.
No, I do not remember the name of the documentary so don't ask for the rape scenes.

>>10380268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvqtzlJsYNc&t=72s

>>10389272
I agree but that is an unrelated reply to my post. In both scenarios there would be no stars visible in the nigh sky as every star would have been converted in one or multiple black holes as a power generation technique. Either way stars being visible is evidence that there are no technologically advanced species out in the universe.

>>10387595
>Quartz shock crystals from the late heavy bombardment show an abundance of carbon byproducts thought to push back the dawn of life to when the solar system was still settling.
So over 5 billion years ago? It took billions of years to form complex life after that

>>10387320
>No one said anything about dyson spheres. We could also store the matter from the stars somewhere for future use. Either way letting stars burn randomly is a waste of our finite mass-energy that a species will eventually need due to entropy.
>Therefor visible stars mean there are no advanced species in the universe.
Nobody tell him about dark matter

>>10380268
Sure. But there's no evidence or proof so it's just pure speculation on a fun idea.