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10372158 No.10372158 [Reply] [Original]

All you ever heard about climate change is that it makes large areas uninhabitable and causing an overpopulation crisis. But today, we have huge landmasses that are more or less inhospitable for being too damn cold to sustain any larger human settlement, such as Antarctica, Grönland and chunks of northern Russia and Canada. Wouldn't it just as well open these areas for human use?

>> No.10372192
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>>10372158
>huge landmasses
I don't think you know what that means.

>> No.10372200
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>>10372158
Also the ice has to go somewhere.

>> No.10372227

>>10372192
Still a damn much of clay. That's enough for whole new countries.
>>10372200
Moving the shorelines like that would make the climate in the middle of Eurasia much milder. Mongolia would become an agricultural heaven, probably also the mountain ranges would be able to support far larger populations.

>> No.10372243

>>10372227
>Moving the shorelines like that would make the climate in the middle of Eurasia much milder. Mongolia would become an agricultural heaven, probably also the mountain ranges would be able to support far larger populations.
You have no evidence to back up these statements.

>> No.10372248

>>10372227
>That's enough for whole new countries.
No it isn't. And also when you subtract all the places we loose it is way worse in the long run. The majority of earth's largest cities are located on the ocean and would be damage or outright destroyed by the rising seas.

>> No.10373598

>>10372158
>climate change
>>>/x/

>> No.10373601
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>>10372192
This is taking into account post glacial rebounding.

>> No.10373602

>>10373598
haha XD rekt lol

>> No.10373775

>>10373598
yes, everything is fine

>> No.10374154

>>10372158
>lose trillions of dollars worth of infrastructure
>gain empty lot
shitty tradeoff.

>> No.10374172

>>10372158
Humanity spend the last thousands of years and led countless wars until the landmass was distributed. Today, despite some minor conflicts here and there, we are settled. Climate change will fuck that over. Even if we assume the net loss of habitable land is zero, there are wars after wars going to come. Think about China and Russia. The warmer the globe gets, the more the landmass of Siberia looks attractive to China. Think also about interna conflicts. What are the more northern Staates going to do when 100 Million american from the sun belt want to move in? Think also about africans and middle easterners moving to europe, etc.

>> No.10374176

>>10374172
OK, I WILL THINK ABOUT THAT.

>> No.10374200

>>10372158
Antarctica will never be habitable. The permafrost in the soil makes growing things almost impossible, and the nights that last for months will require ridiculous levels of vitamin D supplements to just survive.

>> No.10374202

>>10372158
you triggered me op with this rapefugee welcome propaganda
t. european

>> No.10374394

>>10373601
thnx, was gonna say dis

>> No.10374738

>>10372158
>I know all you ever heard about climate change
No you do not fgt pls

>> No.10374766
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>>10372158
>All you ever heard about climate change is that it makes large areas uninhabitable and causing an overpopulation crisis
Actually climate change will improve living conditions in many countries.

>> No.10374913

>>10373601
All those cool Dinosaurs we'll never know about.
Feels bad man.

>> No.10374922

>>10374766
And everyone who doesn't live in those will want to bring the party to those who do.

>> No.10374923

>>10374766
just think about all the delicious pies and pastries we'll make with those Polish apples

>> No.10374940

>>10374922
>And everyone who doesn't live in those will want to bring the party to those who do.

there’s this radical concept called borders and machine guns anon

>> No.10374959

>>10374940
>there’s this radical concept called borders and machine guns anon
Yeah but looking at that map there is at least one nuclear armed country that will be expanding it's borders forcibly and doesn't give a fuck about your machine guns.

>> No.10375226

>>10373601
Does it also account for sea level rise?
And the surface will likely be scraped to bedrock. No (fertile) soil for planting.

>> No.10375409

>>10372158
i think global water shortages and famine is what we as humans have to worry about in our lifetime due to climate change

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>>10372158
>>10372192
>>10372200
>>10372227
>>10372243
>>10372248
>>10373598
>>10373601
>>10373602
>>10373775
>>10374154
>>10374172
>>10374176
>>10374200
>>10374202
>>10374394
>>10374738
>>10374766
>>10374913
>>10374922
>>10374923
>>10374940
>>10374959
>>10375226
>>10375409
Fun fact: Climate change with ruin the ocean ecology as it becomes more acidic, killing off huge swathes of oxygenogenic organisms, like coral and diatoms.
This will also kill most marine sources of human nutrition, like tuna. This in turn with destroy many food chains and kill predatory life aswell, like dolphins.
As for climate change, this will disrupt the Gulf Stream, which will make parts of North America and Europe less fertile.
Then you have macro- and microplastics, that kill marine life as both macro- and microplastics. One being things like asphyxiation from bottle caps and beer rings. Then microplastics, which are bioaccumulative and can release toxic and carcinogenic compounds. These have also been found in human diets and therefore human feces.
What else?

>> No.10375456

>>10375454
And oceanic anoxic events don't only impact the ocean:
>Oceanic anoxic events or anoxic events (anoxia conditions) were intervals in the Earth's past where portions of oceans become depleted in oxygen (O2) at depths over a large geographic area. During some of these events, euxinia, waters that contained H
2S hydrogen sulfide, developed.[2] Although anoxic events have not happened for millions of years, the geological record shows that they happened many times in the past. Anoxic events coincided with several mass extinctions and may have contributed to them.[3] These mass extinctions include some that geobiologists use as time markers in biostratigraphic dating.[4] Many geologists believe oceanic anoxic events are strongly linked to slowing of ocean circulation, climatic warming, and elevated levels of greenhouse gases. Researchers have proposed enhanced volcanism (the release of CO2) as the "central external trigger for euxinia".[5]