/sci/ - Science & Math

I mean we've came pretty far with medicine, let's give it some 70 years and I hope that our lifespan will be increased to at least 120 years.

honestly my main gripe isnt really dying, its not being conscious and its why i fear sleep
if after death i still retain consciousness, even if all i experience is blackness, or hell, even HELL, i dont care, as long as im conscious of it
we need science to first find out what consciousness is, and then learn how to capture it

>>10364254
>even HELL, i dont care, as long as im conscious
Why? How is nonexistence worse than suffering?

>>10364218
>Apoptosis is fucked. Are genes afraid of creating an organism that wanders these microscopic spaces endlessly?
The body is only a prison for the soul

>>10364254
From a phenomenological perspective, sleep doesn't exist. The unbroken train of thought that has made up your subjective existence throughout your life glosses right over it as if it weren't there.

>>10364218
That looked like how my ego death felt

>>10364218
>Single-celled Organism
countless cells die in your body right now every second you dumb shit

>>10364218
Rip in Pip little buddy

am I the only one who actually thinks death isn't so bad? no more work, no more worries ect…

>>10364259
life is suffering, but I enjoy being alive despite that

>>10364292
>based retard missing the point

>>10364261
>phenomenological perspective
so it's bs then

>>10364218
So what's happening here? Why does his cell wall just come apart like that?

>>10364218
Certain immortality is scary to me. A longer life with a postponed certain death would be fine, given that I am at full health for a majority of that time.
Imagine all the things/skills you could learn, with the curiosity of a child. Play video games for 5 years? Fine you will still have 255 more years to do other stuff.

Apoptosis in it self is a good thing, it serves a purpose for the higher organism removing defect/compromised cells. .

>>10364947
Death is bad as it is a creation of sin, but it is not as bad as living apart from the Lord and in a fallen world.

>>10364947
yeah, same. maybe i am just weak-willed but i find the idea of oblivion incredibly comforting. No more struggle, no anxieties, no pains, no anything at all.

You're more than 1 cell bruh

this vid aint showing apoptosis xd

>>10364218
wow what a coincidence! you think the average life expectancy is the perfect amount of time to be alive.
cope harder please

Poor guy ;(
Rest in peace
2019-2019

>>10364218
F

The way its "hairs" quickly move makes it seems like it's desperate. However that is just automated behavior as it is just a single celled creature.

Still evokes empathy within my mammalian brain though.

Why the fuck is our brain evolved to feel bad for things like this?

>>10365302
Why do you think the panic felt by that one cell is any less meanigful than the panic felt by many cells connected together with synapses?

>>10365302
we're exactly the same thing, just billions and billions of them put together. it's like it's watching itself

>>10364218
Did the heat from the microscope destroy it or is this how protists die naturally?

>>10365322
>Did the heat from the microscope destroy it or is this how protists die naturally?
no,, it just freaks them out

>>10364254
consuiousness is literally just your neurons looping inside parts of your brain creating a pattern that can realise its creating a pattern and this loop realization causes you to be aware of the things going on . its that simple

>>10366416
cont , basically your brain consists of different areas "working together", first, the first signal sent flying around every single neuron needed to keep you alive makes you behave like a robot/computer without consiousness, but as soon as these patterns loop around,, (thanks to memory), the contionous loops of electricity in your brains area casues you to recollect things by using the memoery center in your brain, thus you are now consious

>>10365315
>>10365320
>>10365327
/sci/ really is the dumbest board on 4chan.

>>10364218
Wow, are you me? Saw this guy's channel in my recommended the other day, browsed his videos and saw this cell death. and yeah, it's sad.

>>10364218
Man what the fuck, that guy was watching the whole thing and did NOTHING to help the creature.

>>10366539
You are a culmination of stimulus gathering and interpretation. A cell is no different on a simple scale, and an algorithm is of the same type. Panic is a negative reaction to a stimulus. Our interpretation of our bodies stimulus gathering while potentially more complex is stil the same idea. Somthing is bad so you avoid it. Meanwhile you go stroke your stupid ego about how everyone else is dumber than you are on a board devoted to /x/ shitposting /b/ asking stupid questions and intellectual individuals, the first two who would never type a responce or have the capacity to ask a question more than 5 words long.

>>10366621
cant cure death morty

>>10366764
saying that cells feel panic is like saying they have lungs
panic is an animal state that requires brain function

>>10364977
>Life is suffering.
Ironically this.

>>10364218
>If they are exposed to light or starved, they will lose their pinkish color and will look like this one in the video, also strong light can even kill the colored ones. I don't know why this one died but how it dissolves to nothingness just broke my heart. Big or small, life is fragile.

Did it die because he was using a fucking microscope on it lmao?

>>10366794
Cells experience chemical stress signals and very much panic in response.

Are you special because you have more chemical signals in your brain driving the panic?

F

>>10366936
Are you saying that cells are conscious? Go watch rick and morty, you braindead mongoloid.

>>10366621
What kind of sick person would just do that. We need to tell someone so this guy never practices again

>>10366936
Cells are literally just organic computers
There's a vast difference between a receptor phosphorylating something that speeds up actin treadmilling or molecular motors and sensing that you are about to die and being anxious of it. It's a fundamental attribution error to think that a single cell can be "anxious" or "panicked" because pretty much all cellular functions are entirely automated. Very few even refer back to the nucleus, as you can't depend on RNAs for split-second functions.
>>10366621
>>10368956
you're like those people that watch eaglets and owlets eat their siblings and go "WAAAH WHY SCIENTIST NO HELP BABY??"
Observation without intervention is the best way to learn about natural processes.
siblicide is regularly practiced in the animal kingdom, and programmed cell death is probably the first adaptation eukaryotes picked up when they became multicellular.
I regularly run clinical trials and animals die all the time when medical devices don't perform. it's called an Early Death case. The correct term for terminating an animal at the end of a trial is called "Sacrificing" as in "Sacrificed to science." Quit using a middle-school science fair mindset for science.