/sci/ - Science & Math

Yeah, that's pretty much the reason I chose criminal justice with an emphasis in criminal law. I never planned to work in law, but simply because it sounds fancy and I can bullshit my qualifications it made getting a job easy. I just ended up working in a hosptial because I told them I studied a lot of laboratory biology in school.

>>10356269
And I'm here studying aerospace

>>10356281
>>10356275
hard fields =/= the best careers

STEM is a meme. People in technical fields are naive altruists, while their bosses are not. Guess what happens next.

>>10356269
Yeah well at least no one on your favorite anime imageboard will laugh at your friend.

>>10356396
it makes the career more secure though

>>10356462
Tell that to a postdoc or someone awaiting a tenure decision

>>10356471
>>10356462
rekt

>>10356269
All undergrad degrees require connections. Either you knew someone or got lucky.

>>10356502
look at the fields with the highest IQ and then look at the median salary for each field, the highest IQ fields are never the highest on the scale.

Why doesn't a Math degree automatically imply you can learn anything very quickly? Pretty sure I could learn anything a business major can do in like less than 6 months.

>>10356269
What did you focus on in business?

>>10356807
Can confirm. As a former STEM major who fell for the business major meme, the entirety of content in my undergrad could be learned in such a time span; even a brainlet could do it in a year. 80% of my classes (most were finance, marketing, and management classes) were just a rehash of the previous semester's material.

>>10356269
>be me
>study math
>sometimes I almost spend an hour a week studying when it gets really hard
>rest of the time I work out, learn new languages, or go clubbing
>trading firms almost literally want my cock
>can easily understand the content of applied maths or computer science courses, taking a few this semester
>tfw I actually understand and can implement the "BiGg dAta!!" and "Musheen lurnin'" memes business and finance pseudochads shill all over the place while secretly being terrified of them
>tfw my job will only be replaced by machines long long after the Finance and Business Snakes who tryharded life become obsoleted

>>10356807
Because you don’t know how to develop AWS Lambda services & enterprise micro services. You weren’t taught how to implement cloud based enterprise data integration to 3rd party data resources and don’t know anything about unit testing. automated UI testing, TDD etc.

This is why companies would pay 100K+ for such skill set, and why you’d be able to apply for jobs in the service industry at the minimum wage level.

Your skills are equivalent to someone that doesn’t even have a college degree.

Knowing functional analysis isn’t helpful in AWS

>>10356845
>functional analysis
Functional analysis is current the heart machine learning and deep learning

>>10356857
You don’t need to know functional analysis to do ML. Pytorch, Keras etc has more utility for a practitioner. It doesn’t negate anything I wrote.

>>10356938
>has more utility for a practitioner
It really depends on what you're doing. I'm finding more and more that you need that extra bit of control.

>>10356845
>Because you don’t know how to develop AWS Lambda services & enterprise micro services. You weren’t taught how to implement cloud based enterprise data integration to 3rd party data resources and don’t know anything about unit testing. automated UI testing, TDD etc.
You can get the certificates for those in a couple of exams in a week. Next to no CS grads will have experience of any of that.

>>10357057
Most pure math majors I met can’t code. Let alone pass leetcode hard problems. Pure math degrees are great for getting min wage jobs or jobs that don’t require degrees.

Whether a math major can get AWS cert easily doesn’t mean much if they can’t solve 5-6 leet code hard problems in a short time interval

>>10356269
>be me
>NEET
>read about physics
>play games all day when I'm bored of above
>don't have plans for getting a job
>know a bunch of web dev because I was bored in highschool
>Can get a job in a month if I want to
>Will probably work blue collar if I want to because no fucks given

Check mate, normalfags

>>10356841
nice larp.

got any book recomendations?

>>10356269
What do you make? What's your job description?
>>10356275
Doesn't a math major/engineering degree(hell even CS) also sound fancy? What exactly do you mean by "bullshit my qualifications", and how exactly did you use these to get a job (didn't they check your transcript)? What do you actually do in the hospital and how much are you paid?
>>10356751
engineering is near the top on both though.

>>10357076
deep work by cal newport

>>10356845
neither a business nor CS degree will teach you any of those. In fact if they did, the skills wouldn't be in low supply and therefore wouldn't pay as much. What's your point?

bump

>>10357455
found the nervous math/statistics major

>be me didn't go to college, rejected from army because my parents gave them my psych records
>Work as a technician in commercial/industrial HVAC
>Learned automation and electronics
>Now work in the power systems automation field
>Bosses want me to get an engineering degree
>I might suck cocks but at least I have lots of industry experience, and soon have a batch.
>Start studying math for real this time
>A new sense of purpose has hijacked my free will
>I can't stop learning
>I am a blue collar electron god
Peasant coming thru, noblemen swerve

>>10357717
how old are you anon

>>10357089
I paired it with a minor in French. To the average person "I have a bachelors of law with an emphasis on criminal justice and a minor in French" sounds pretty fancy. I bullshit my qualifications by telling them I had to take a bunch of forensic science classes (I didn't there is a specific emphasis for forensics). I don't do anything fancy, I'm a radiation tech assistant. Basically I just look at x ray photos all night long. I work graves and x rays during the night are pretty uncommon, except for trauma patients and the odd emergency, so they don't need a dedicated radiologist. Since I'm not "medically trained" I don't make decisions on patient care any way. More or less, I process the photo and upload it into the computer so the Dr. Can access it on the medical unit. I don't make a lot of money, roughly $50k a year, but for a bachelors degree in a non related field, I do pretty well. They never checked my transcript, they just called the university to make sure I had a degree.

>>10357057
>You can get the certificates for those in a couple of exams in a week. Next to no CS grads will have experience of any of that.
I've taken three courses in undergrad covering distributed systems including a theory course on consensus/convergence algorithms. You definitely aren't learning this in a couple of weeks.

>>10357717
>gets engineering degree at 35
>starts believing he is an expert in every field of human endeavor

who would want to be a cog in the corporate machine backstabbing and talking to everyone in that disingenuous salesman voice their whole life
I wouldn't even do that for twice the money I make, go flex nuts on /biz/ 110 IQ scum

>>10358163
>implying academia doesn't have more politics than good medium sized companies
If research fulfills you, then more power to you, but the more you try to strawman industry the more I think you're just justifying your position via the sour grapes argument.

>>10357076
Not a larp, but reading some nice literature like Dostoyevsky, Camus, or Hermann Hesse is always good for impressing girls and interviewers alike.

To get started with machine learning, I recommend The Elements of Statistical Learning by Hastie, it's a bit old, but's it's got all the math down. Then use kaggle and online ressources to learn the practicle code stuff.

>>10356269

>>10358702
kek

>>10358702
the math major in the picture isn't worn done enough

>>10356471
>wanting to stay in academia
This is an adult's only board

>>10356807
you can't learn to interact with other people

>>10356269

>be me
> study busniess one semester
> party hard becuase of virtually zero courseload
> realise quickly degree will lead to a soul crushing dull job and with asshole collegees
>switch to mechanical engineering
>study complex fields such as fluid dynamics
>studies are tough but way more interesting
>will have meaningful and high paying job when I graduate in less than a year from my masters where I can actually do something that contributes to society
>yes its stressful sometimes but im not a lazy fuck that thinks life always should be easy
>company im doing thesis for already says they are interested in hiring me
>never look back

>>10358163
>not being a chad that parties his way through a piss easy business degree, fucking pic related on the regular
>I’d rather spend years of undergrad absent the touch of a woman, arguing with a bunch of virgin neets on a Japanese swordfishing porn website
Maximum cope

>>10356275

>>10356832
Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger say the entire course could be summed up in a half hour conversation.

>>10356845
>buzz words the post
>implying a monkey couldn't learn how to do it

>>10356841
My dude.

Step 1. Learn statistics/probability

Step 2. Apply it to human behavior. It sounds much harder than it is honestly.

Step 3. Build a model based on that shit

Step 4. Implement it

Seriously people will give their info away for no reason whatsover. This isn't original whatsoever but people still do it to save like $2.00 on a bottle of wine at Walgreens.

>>10356841
>>be me
>>study math
>>pass calculus 1
>>sometimes I almost spend an hour a week studying when it gets really hard
>>rest of the time I work out, learn new languages, or go clubbing
>>trading firms almost literally want my cock
>>can easily understand the content of applied maths or computer science courses, taking a few this semester
>>tfw I actually understand and can implement the "BiGg dAta!!" and "Musheen lurnin'" memes business and finance pseudochads shill all over the place while secretly being terrified of them
>>tfw my job will only be replaced by machines long long after the Finance and Business Snakes who tryharded life become obsoleted

>>10356841
I was turned down by every trading firm I applied to but given offers from multiple top consulting firms and tech companies. Why do they do this?
Secretly I really just want to trade.

I know, biz w/stat minor. At my college the courses start a week later and finish a week before. Even with stat I have so much free time, its nice.

>>10360244
this is absolutely false

>>10360313
what job? It's probably some wagecuck shit related to software """engineering""""

>>10361149
>>10358163
rekt

>>10356269
I went to school to learn how to weld and now I make 80k a year and I mostly just shitpost on 4chan my entire workday lol

The reality is the smartest among us do degrees like Law as the job not only pays well but is far more mentally stimulating than most sciences.

>>10356269
>he studies for business
holy shit you are a fucking brainlet, i didn’t even study for econ

>>10363200
And I guess courses like federal income tax come intuitively to you as well, right?

>>10363197
Smartest (wealthiest)

>>10356807
This is why math majors are overrepresented in medical schools and high finance. However, most math majors are autistic. In business being smart is important, but being socially savvy is even more important.

>>10356471
>not leaving academe to work at a bank for job security

>>10356269
>hurrr the only reason to study anything is how much money you can make with it

>>10363244
that's medicine
>>10361248
that's social engineering

>>10364659
>>10364659
t. poorfag

>>10356269
He's still smarter than you.
>>10363197
A clinically retarded person with good memory could complete your degree.
>>10364469
>most math majors are autistic
Citation needed. Like 98% of people on the autism spectrum have below average IQs.

>>10365342
yet look at any math department and they are all socially retarded

>>10366019
>anecdotal evidence on a science board
You should shoot yourself.

>>10366188
>argument by induction is not appropriate here
>statistics is not Math

>>10361149
>ASS-U
Of course...

>>10366602
Anecdotal evidence isn't statistics you autistic moron. Give proof of your statement. Oh wait you can't, because you're an autistic moron.

>>10366748
>maybe if I insult him, it'll make it look like my point's stronger
I will not reply any more to you. Please reflect on how you discuss topics with others.

>>10356269
Being smart isn't about how much we know, but the choices we make.

I'm studying Applied Math, pure math emphasis. What can I expect after? -_-

>>10366933
do you like fastfood?

>>10356269
this is what's wrong with the western world

>>10361274
joke's on you, I didn't actually pass calc 1, my university would let you take linear algebra 101 instead.
Learning the pajeet tricks to compute derivatives and integrals in R is for nerds.

>>10361280
Do you know all the interview questions from trading firms?
If so, it might be that you're autistic to the point of failing the fit/"tell us about yourself" part. Some time spent working at a consulting firm could help fix that actually.

>>10368419
I never even made it to that stage. I was either denied outright or denied after the coding/math test, which I did reasonably well on.