/sci/ - Science & Math

freelance as a code monkey

>>10350785
For what exactly do you need 40k?

>>10350785
Tutoring is a great option.
>>10350992
Probably a car.

>>10350785
I do freelance HVAC repairs, pays well but customers can be picky assholes.

>>10350785
suck dick

>>10350785
Depending on how prestigious your school is you can make >$100/hr tutoring.

>>10350998
>Probably a car.
40k?
Quite an aspiration for a student.

>>10350982
no code monkey is making 40k freelance unless they are working 8 hours a day

>>10350992
this wtf do you need 40k for?

undergrad loans?

that's the only reasonable option I can think of, if it's a car as other people have suggested you are a retard OP

>>10350785
In Europe PhD pay is 46k a year

Sorry I was at the farmer's market
>>10350982
I mean I've thought about it but I'm not sure my programming skills are up to snuff. I've done stuff with python and C++, but using them outside the context of computational physics or data analysis (w/ root) isn't something I have a lot of experience in. I imagine if I'm just freelancing rather than entering a more structured job w/ training I would need to get better first.
>>10351011
I uh, I'm not sure I would be qualified for that.
>>10351025
That's plan B. I've genuinely thought about cam stuff but probably a bad idea in a lot of different ways
>>10350992
>>10350998
>>10351070
haha no I am going to have a surgeon rearrange my face.
>>10351208
lucky

>>10351238
>that's plan B. I've genuinely thought about cam stuff but probably a bad idea in a lot of different ways
>haha no I am going to have a surgeon rearrange my face.
>Sorry I was at the farmer's market
what is going on here

>>10351238
>haha no I am going to have a surgeon rearrange my face.
That's worse than the car.

>>10351280
depression!
although i'm not sure what's that weird about going to a farmer's market; it's where i get my veggies and fruit and shit. can get a little box of "reduced price" apples for a buck to cook with gr8 deal
>>10351286
not having a nice car doesnt make me want to kill myself so

do you have horrible goblinesque features?

>>10351537
mmm, not to a ridiculous extent. I'd say my worst feature is my nose, which is too large and I've been upset with for a while now. The main problem is less my face looking goblinesque and more it looking uh male. Dysphoria can fuck with your perception somewhat, so it's hard to say to what extent I'm seeing with an objective eye here, but practically it's not very tenable to have the person looking back at me in the mirror to be randomly male in the long term.

>>10351238
>haha no I am going to have a surgeon rearrange my face.
kys tranny

>>10351867
i mean i might that's kind of why i'm all about getting the ol' nose removal with a side of my forehead being shaved off and a well cut adam's apple for dessert

>>10351623
OP therapy is cheaper than 40k, try starting there.

>>10351956
already do; comes free through the uni'.
though i'm gonna be abroad for a while in a few months so i'll need to get a new one which is a major bummer because my counselor is the best at working through stuff with
admittedly when you've got my treasure trove of issues it can be hard to get to everything, and so we probably could focus more on appearance issues just we're kind of on a different track right now and honestly even if my perception of my own features is somewhat flawed I think my concerns are based in reality. Even if I were to become "okay" with them, life is very different for passing/non-passing people and so this really seems like the best call to get to a place where I feel okay and safe being myself.

>>10351998
Check up on results of plastic surgery in helping people cope with insecurities, not that great, specially in sexual dysphorias that lead to sexual reassignment surgeries. Surgery tends to worsen the situation.

If you go abroad get a new conselor abroad too, it's not just him that's the best others are equally qualified.

If you feel like you're on a different track then talk with your conselor about it, it's their job to help you see the proper track.

>>10350785
kek and then they say STEM is very profitable

>>10352052
No one says academia is very profitable, what's profitable is going into the industry after your degree, something that isn't as profitable in the majority of areas outside of STEM, granted the person isn't a complete autist.

>>10352031
>results of plastic surgery in helping people cope with insecurities, not that great
I have to head out now so I can get more into this later but:
1. I don't know about the effectiveness of plastic surgery in general cases. A quick search gave this:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5054993/
2. I believe the effectiveness in the case of BDD is low. BDD is characterized by a view of one's body that is wildly inaccurate compared to reality. We could get into the weeds discussing the validity of GD, but it wouldn't change that my perception of my body isn't inaccurate. It has male features and I perceive them.
3. I'm not sure how much research has been done for FFS on trans patients, but I think your example of SRS is misguided. I don't personally know that much about SRS because I'm not at the point where I'm looking into it, but from what I've gathered it is effective. Quick search turned up these:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26486135
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29730870
oh, here's a big like list of them:
http://transascity.org/quality-of-life-in-treated-transsexuals/
So, I dunno, you can look through them but honestly I'm not sure it's relevant as I think SRS is pretty different from FFS regardless of whether or not the outcomes are good or bad.
4. Like I mentioned this has QoL implications outside of my own perception.
>new conselor abroad
I mean yeah, I was saying I'd have to get a new one. The default one at the place I'm being sent to (I've gone there before for a bit) is clearly more experienced in dealing with stress issues than gender ones, though, and that was kind of a bummer so I might have to look for a different person.
>it's their job to help you see the proper track.
By track I mean like right now we're on the track of dealing with a different issue, which is working through the effects of a traumatic event. Only so much time and it seemed like something we should get to before I head off.
>>10352052
industry not academia if you want those big bucks

>>10352107
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26486135
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29730870
Sample is in total of 80 people with 2 combined studies making a broad claim, one only seems to explore comparison between before and after surgery not comparing with other methods and on top of that all of the authors come from not so reputable countries in terms of advancing medicine.

http://transascity.org/quality-of-life-in-treated-transsexuals/
Sorry but in terms of source I won't even bother checking seems that it would be extremely biased.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5054993/
Once again Brazilian authors alone, only compared from databases where they narrow it down from 1,700 to 20 and give odd results, the paper seems only focused on reduction mammoplasty and finishes by saying "We still need more studies with aesthetic surgeries, other than reduction mammoplasty, to compare the magnitude of different procedures, thereby helping surgeons to understand what aids patients’ health the most."

Surgery should always be last resort anon, look up other types of treatment first and compare results, if surgery offers the best results then maybe you should then check with your conselor and clinical physician.

>>10352107
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26486135
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29730870
Sample is in total of 80 people with 2 combined studies making a broad claim, one only seems to explore comparison between before and after surgery not comparing with other methods and on top of that all of the authors come from not so reputable countries in terms of advancing medicine.

http://transascity.org/quality-of-life-in-treated-transsexuals/
Sorry but in terms of source I won't even bother checking seems that it would be extremely biased.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5054993/
Once again Brazilian authors alone, only compared from databases where they narrow it down from 1,700 to 20 and give odd results, the paper seems only focused on reduction mammoplasty and finishes by saying "We still need more studies with aesthetic surgeries, other than reduction mammoplasty, to compare the magnitude of different procedures, thereby helping surgeons to understand what aids patients’ health the most."

Surgery should always be last resort anon, look up other types of treatment first and compare results, if surgery offers the best results then maybe you should then check with your counselor and clinical physician.

>>10352107
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26486135
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29730870
Sample is in total of 80 people with 2 combined studies making a broad claim, one only seems to explore comparison between before and after surgery not comparing with other methods and on top of that all of the authors come from not so reputable countries in terms of advancing medicine.

http://transascity.org/quality-of-life-in-treated-transsexuals/
Sorry but in terms of source I won't even bother checking seems that it would be extremely biased.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5054993/
Once again Brazilian authors alone, only compared from databases where they narrow it down from 1,700 to 20 and give odd results, the paper seems only focused on reduction mammoplasty and finishes by saying "We still need more studies with aesthetic surgeries, other than reduction mammoplasty, to compare the magnitude of different procedures, thereby helping surgeons to understand what aids patients’ health the most."

Surgery should always be last resort anon, look up other types of treatment first and compare results, if surgery offers the best results then maybe you should then check with your counselor and clinical physician.

>>10352205
Sorry, I ended up having less time to go over this than I thought I would. Briefly:
You can raise concerns about specific studies, but again SRS isn't something I am particularly looking into right now and in lieu of scanning every single study, I, as a layperson, sort of have to just take what seems to be the general consensus of the medical community that it's probably an effective treatment for people that experience significant enough genital dysphoria. I'm open to challenges to that claim, but they have to be broader in scope. I understand, though, that you're just replying to the studies I linked, which is fair. It was my mistake linking studies that I wasn't particularly attached to, but hopefully you'll understand given the context that these were quick searches with the (as it turns out incorrect) idea that I could delve more deeply into them later.
I can see your concern about bias, however, the way they claim to have compiled these was by searching online databases using key words like "transgender", "quality of life", etc. So even if you don't take their list, I thought that you could just as well recreate it. Looking at their list there are some studies that don't indicate an improvement, so you could take a gander at those and tell me what you think if you have time.
Of course, again, that is all about SRS which isn't even really the issue here. When it comes to FFS, as I mentioned, I'm not particularly aware of the research here. Again, quick searches seem to give positive results. The thing is I'm not quite sure what you mean by "other treatments". I'm already on HRT, I've already discussed appearance issues and FFS with my counselor (and, of course, I could do this *more* but it's not the track we're on right now and I don't think I have a lot of reason to derail us onto another topic at this point).
And we still aren't addressing the difference between passing and not. I'm not sure what to say because your concerns are kind of vague.

>>10350785
Cold, hard cash?

>>10351904

>>10352659
precisely
>>10352841
just whatever gets me to being okay my dude

SHould av stick to Compsci major instead poorfag.

>>10352862
You should try to get on Kaiser Permanente health insurance if you can possibly go to California. I just got on it recently and afaik it's really good for trans people and will likely cover the cost of FFS.

Alternatively go into CS because you can make ludicrous amounts of money

>>10352947
i mean obviously if money was my main career goal i would have gone into something more lucrative

I make 5k a month running an online yoga pants store. I reinvest about 2k a month in advertising. You could do that. I'm think about starting another one that's more guy focused that would be windbreakers and hats.

>>10350785

highest paying college majors are:

1. Computer Science: $70,000
2. Electrical Engineering: $68,438
3. Mechanical Engineering: $68,000
4. Chemical Engineering: $65,000
5. Industrial Engineering: $64,381
6. Information Technology: $64,008
7. Civil Engineering: $61,500
...
8. Statistics: $60,000
9. Nursing: $58,928
10. Management Information
11. Finance: $54,900
12. Mathematics: 54,018
Math fags BTFO
...
13. Biomedical Engineering:$52,814
14. Accounting: $52,000
15. Economics: $52,000
16. Physics: $50,000
Physics fags BTFO
Lel worse than Math fags
how Physics fags will even recover

>https://www.glassdoor.com/blog/50-highest-paying-college-majors/

>>10352971
god i fuckin wish
i was super depressed and apathetic pre-hrt which was when i was applying to grad schools and i totally beefed it ending up in the midwest. if i had just done this shit like two years earlier a surprisingly good chance i'd be actually in california right now (i visited with family when i was younger and it was the only time i didn't want a vacation to end)
instead i have aetna so big whoops on that i guess
i dont really want to go into CS as a thing because i want to do physics, but if it was possible as a side-job then it would definitely be up my alley because i like learning programming. i'm just not quite sure what to learn
>>10352985
uh...how does one start an online yoga pants store? Do you like make the pants or?

>>10352991
I don't understand, is the concept of grad students being paid very low wages new to this board like am i really breaking this news here?

>>10352992
Nah, import them from China. Took about 600$ of me importing random ones on Alibaba till I found the same quality as Lululemon. I get them at 15$ a pair then sell for 59. I never sell at that price though, since my Instagram influencers give out a 10% discount code.

>>10353000
huh, well it's an idea i guess.
how'd you get the idea for specifically yoga pants like what was the lead-up to this?

>>10353010
Just saw 70$ black pants that weren't special material and wondered why that high price. GF said it's hard to find good ones for under 60. I looked into e-commerce before with a buisness plan about a nonprofit coffee store. It's a good amount of work though, a lot of phone calls. I don't pay the influencers if I can though, just give them a permanent 50% off coupon plus a free pair. They really are good quality, so it works.

Also my influencers only have like 1k followers, "popular girls at a big high school" level. Word of mouth works well for my model.

>falling for the physics meme

>>10353026
>>10353033
huh, well it's neat that worked out so well for you. if i'm being honest i don't know that i have any talent for business (and certainly no skill at this point) so I'm not sure it's up my alley but it's certainly interesting
>>10353035
i mean, again when it comes to money it would be the grad school meme, right?
like i want to do physics as my thing still, and i want to work in academia, so I don't regret these choices. I never did this for the money, and I wouldn't really change the basic path if I could do it over again.
Maaybe take time between undergrad and grad school to work at some place that has insurance with FFS coverage but uh otherwise the same

>>10353044
If you do ever, just look for something where quality is actually important. You item will start to sell itself a bit.

>>10353044
$40k is a significant amount of money, more than almost anyone can accomplish on a side job. You (almost always) need to either commit to something where you're making money or go somewhere where they'll cover it.

Why not just go into programming for a few years and then come back for a PhD? I literally got a job right out of high school at a FAANG company making $120k in cash. If you have the math background and you're good at it and willing to move do it.

>>10353155
I mean $40K is just a number. I don't know how much it'll come out to be after my consultation, and if I come up short I might be able to get a personal loan and even have the possibility of a no-questions-asked loan from my dad
the backup to the backup plan is i actually come out and then ask my dad for money specifically for this.
>Why not just go into programming for a few years and then come back for a PhD?
I would consider that, but
1. I'm not sure I'm qualified for a programming job. I have some experience, a math degree, and a physics degree, but the programming I know is either pretty basic or pretty specialized. Depends on how much they're willing to train someone up I guess.
2. I feel like I made a commitment when I signed up for the PhD program. I don't want to disappoint my adviser and everyone else. Just cutting off like that seems like a mean thing to do to them.
That said, I do feel like I'm in a pretty messed up emotional state here, so I don't know. Theoretically if things get bad enough the best thing to do would be to try to do something like you're suggesting and move the fuck out of this awful state, but at the same time that just seems like so much effort. So much hassle and I'm just tired of it, realistically speaking it might be better at that point just to end this whole deal rather than trying to crawl out of the hole.

Tranny thread

Is OP a grill? :3

>>10350785
OP the easiest way to get that amount of money is to start selling your boipucci/pussy. Let’s say you charge $500 per hour. You’d only need to fuck 80 dudes to make it. I’d recccomend doing it in a city far from your school tho.

>>10352647
Well if you are already on HRT and therapy seems you've covered different alternatives, I'm also no specialist here so your best option is discussing this with your counselor and alteast 2 different physicians to get a broader opinion.
My only concerns are about eventual regrets later on by people that have done the surgery since their dysphoria might not remain permanent or that after one does a surgery they will see another part that they want to change and so on.
On the list from http://transascity.org/quality-of-life-in-treated-transsexuals/ I looked at it but I remain utterly skeptical since they show 33 studies reviewed, although they get good numbers as a result they don't take in account suicide rates that have been the main issue in modern days and I'm not sure if they "cherry picked" them or not.
Either way if you plan to go ahead with the surgery, consult with professionals, both in the area and outside and make sure to take a long decision without any rushing.

>>10351238
> haha no I am going to have a surgeon rearrange my face.
Why not just do it the cheap and easy way?
https://youtu.be/U38HmSSAGSo

She's getting fake tits!

>>10351998
Imagine being so mentally ill that you need to spend 40k to not kill yourself

>>10353782
OP is a tranny. Imagine our shock

>>10353828
Yeah, like I understand the concern but I promise you I've given this a lot of thought and of course plan to talk about every aspect of the decision with people that can help me work through it.
When it comes to suicide rates, I'm not gonna go look them up now because I just got up and I have office hours in an hour thirty, but I remember seeing a survey of trans youth in canada centered around parental acceptance that showed a significant drop in, I think, suicide attempts, depending on that acceptance. GD itself sucks, , but hiding, feeling ashamed, and having your insecurities validated by others can make the whole thing a lot worse. I'm pretty close to being able to pass sans FFS, people already gender me female or male somewhat randomly when I'm presenting male (or at least andro at this point), but the in-between is not a healthy place for me to live long-term. The results I've seen from FFS could put me into a place where I feel comfortable being out and about which would be really solid for my mental health. Most concretely because people are genuinely mean even in passive ways. Like I said I dress andro, but use a more male voice and you would not believe the angry stares I get, particularly from men, if I'm, for instance, in the men's restroom and they initially think I'm a cis woman or if they refer to me as female offhand and then realize after (this actually happened at the farmer's market yesterday). I want things like that to stop.
>>10353887
GD sucks my dude; that's what we keep trying to tell you.
although like I mentioned above the suicide rates could be dependent on other factors like acceptance which uh really makes ya think, huh? Even the Williams report (which can be flawed as it only gives "Lifetime suicide attempts" rather than suicide attempts before/after certain things) shows this.
I'm also a special case because I have avoidant personality disorder, which let me tell you is *not* a good thing to pair with being trans wew lol

>>10354054
>avoidant personality disorder
That's the thing where you don't take anything that vaguely sounds like a demand as good, right?

>>10351623
Post face.

>>10354082
literally about to walk out the door but uhh, I don't think so. it has to do with perceived worth, self-esteem, and sensitivity to criticism.

>>10354117
seems like a pretty bad idea
but ehhh talk to me when i get back

not OP but im considering tutoring when i start my phd too.

anyone here does/did tutoring? any tips?
i live in >10million people city, so plenty of targets, like focusing on university entrance exams or calculus/physics for people already in.

hi op can we be friends

>>10356100
uhh i gotta go do grad stuff for most of today (probably won't be back for 15ish hours) but yea sure hi friend what's up

>>10350785
what country are you in OP?

>>10356885
quick phone post between classes but the us of a

>>10353880
i am NOT getting fake breasts btw.
hrt made me grow lil A cups that are already amazing and they are still going so i should be fine possibly more than fine if progesterone actually helps

>>10356969
post ur discord retard

>>10352991
>>10350785
Holy shit, thank God I chose to mow lawns and take half the year off instead of having to work that much for so little.

>>10350785
Unironically sell drugs. I won't instruct you on how, though, because all of your blogging here.

>>10357356
It's really not that hard.
>Smuggle weed from California/Colorado
>Dress and smell like drug dealer
>Start hanging out with undergrads who dress and smell like they do drugs
>Mention that you have a lot of medical grade weed

>>10357441
>not synthesizing your drugs

>>10356977
uhhhhh k
gonna go make dinner though and hit the hay post haste to get up to read through some shit i have to before a class but here ya go u jerk: Llln#2030
>>10357356
to be fair i wouldnt have to do all this fuckin bloggin if some people here were more focused on money ideas instead of inquiring as to the validity of my face-removal scheme.
I've considered the drug route and have connects from back home that I could work with, but I don't think it's really worth it in my case, likely because I'm imagining you're positing selling something more than that green, of which I've seen the unimpressive margins for at a start-up level. And particularly because the university I'm at has a very strict policy on drug use, much less drug selling.

>>10357441
>implying there aren't already thousands of drug dealers on any campus in America

Uhm, where in the Midwest opee?

IA, MN or WI

>>10351208
*at the top universities in Switzerland.

>>10350785
>$40k for mental illness tax
Kill yourself, transnigger. Hope you remember the correct way of slitting

>>10358667
mm i dont want to narrow it down that much rn, but more on the eastern side of the midwest
>>10358750
despite having been in these angry and edgy places when i was younger, i'm still always like struck with wondering how this come to be a way that feels right to communicate to you. it's just hard to imagine, so maybe you could explain how you feel a little?

>>10350785
>tfw before the PhD my friend urged me to join his milk farm project and I refused
now we have the same job but at the end of the month he gains x5 my salary.

Advice, always do a project beside your PhD

>>10358976
Indiana is not in the Midwest

Fuck them


Also, you can't get the edgelords to communicate their thoughts, not in real life, not even anonymously on the internet. He won't respond to you or engage in conversation because he's a coward. Such a sad existence indeed.

>>10350785
Build race cars.
I know, I know.. you’ve seen plenty of retarded hillbilly’s who can make a fast car.. but... you have the upper hand.
Being smart, and building cars goes hand in hand.
You will definitely be able to beat those hillbilly’s if you put your mind to it.

>>10359741
uhh i don't really have any opinion on what specifically defines midwest and am mostly just concerned with defining myself out of it but this is what wikipedia tells me
but yeah i guess; it's just weird to me. one time i did get this one really toxic person that tripped regularly on a different board to tell me why they acted the way they do and they said that it helped distract them from their real life
which seemed pretty sad and i know i was pretty sad when i was more of a toxic person so i can't help but want to like engage and understand
>>10360663
...so am i to take it i am also racing the cars against the hillbillys or do i have a driver like ryan gosling
important followup: will the driver *be* ryan gosling?

>>10359140
oh and also this this this
i think i might have mentioned it already but one of my incoming year was 3-5 years older than everyone else because she spent them doing some kind of web design thing and now that b has bank (and apparently still has people contacting her like "hey can you make this thing for us")
if i could do it again i would strongly consider something like this