/sci/ - Science & Math

What patents? Doesn't Tesla use Panasonic batteries?

>>10347653
What does "in good faith" even mean? And is this really legally binding?

>>10347660
They are meant to have a more than decent electric motor system.

>>10347663
>And is this really legally binding?
Probably not, it's just a blog post.

>>10347666
I'd think this was trying to muddy the waters after his SEC shit and libel with Unsworth on twitter, which is seen as a serious outlet of his views and company stuff... except for it working against him in this case as far as I can see.

Electric cars are fine, Tesla isn't

This is from 2014 you tards

>>10348191

>>10347653
Where can I view the patents?

no he didn't, he built tesla to make money

>>10348191
He has done it again, it'll be interesting to see how the market reacts.

>>10348345
https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents

>>10347653
>I built Tesla because I had a bunch of spare money that came from the same government shilling green energy.
FTFY
I was originally going to post because I thought the title implied Nikola Tesla's patents (why I thought Elon had any is beyond me) which would probably useful, but no instead you get an overengineered coal powered battery on wheels.

>>10348553
>I built Tesla
I *bought* Tesla* fucking autocorrect.

>>10348429
>https://www.uspto.gov/patents-application-process/search-patents
Better link:
https://patents.justia.com/company/tesla
Note that this includes solar city patents which I forgot about being under Tesla.

>>10348562
Okay, I've worked out what's happened. One of the most valuable aspects of the business is the charging network and fast charging, this allows anyone to build compatible systems with this. They're going to open up the chargers to non-Tesla companies, probably conversions using Tesla parts and clones. Could also bring down the cost of parts from Chinese knock offs, I don't think that should lower insurance but it might.

>>10347674
>SEC

Mafia

>>10347653
Ya know, when I think of riding around in a wifi, bluetooth, radar, lidar, 4G LTE filled piece of junk, I mean, engineering, with a massive transformer practically between my legs, it's like, wow. Just what I always wanted. The future is truly now.

>>10349406
Musk shouldn't have lazily committed securities fraud. Very simple.

>>10349418
He needed to give her the D.

>>10348586
Good call, they also might be trying to standardise changing with other manufacturers so adoption can be smoother.

>>10348346
the proper amount of virtue signaling is required to make money these days.

>>10349418
We live in the best time line

>>10347653
That blog post the article mentions is from 2014

>>10349539
Because web journalism is a fucking joke.

Elon tweeted it and news outlets have jumped on it like it's hot news, not checking the date on the blog post.
It's probably still true, that all their patents are open for use without paying royalties, but it's also not "news".

>>10347653
>"save the earth"

https://youtu.be/7W33HRc1A6c

>>10347653
That fag is throwing obsolete bullshit to flood the market with garbage, so he could strike the market with his secret developments.

Here in Ecuador we had the "bright" idea to use his 2014's patents to build electric cars, I bet all that stuff are just basic ideas and schematics that a fucking latinan-ogre couldnt figure out.

Boring. Tesla has nothing. It's just fucking hype.
Every other car manufacturer already has better EVs.

>>10347653
>>10347653 (OP)
That fag is throwing obsolete bullshit to flood the market with garbage, so he could strike the market with his secret developments.

In Ecuador people had the "bright" idea to use his 2014's patents to build electric cars, I bet all that stuff are just basic ideas and schematics that a fucking latin-ogre could never figure out.

>>10349703
I didn't know who the guy was until 18 months ago or so. I think if you're really into this stuff you see it for what it is, fpr schlubs like me it sounds like a new announcement.

>>10347653
What a meme. Tesla doesn't hold any valuable IP, outside the brand name.

>>10352013
I think it now holds some of Panasonic's battery tech, although it may be an anti-commons (Tesla will allow you to use it, but Panasonic will not).

>>10348346
make money for what?

>>10347653
hes finished
prob a tax scam down the line

>>10347653
so a gigantic company like Toyota or Volvo can make carbon copies of a model 3 for a bit less and Tesla dies lol

>>10347653
What patents did Tesla even have? We have had electric cars, cameras, batteries, variable speed drives, electric motors, and computers for the better part of the last century. The only thing i can think of that is unique to Tesla would be their software.

>>10353538
>technology can't be improved
Most of their research has been on motors and controllers. FVDs tend to produce a lot of noise and there is plenty of room for improvement as electronics improve.

>>10353544
*VFD

>>10353544
Porsche Taycan already has better electric motors than Tesla

>>10353564
"Better" is hard to define, do you mean:
higher efficiency
lower weight
higher output
better cooling
longer lasting
cheaper production

Remember that Tesla isn't making million dollar supercars and is instead trying to make a car that the average person can afford and daily drive for a decade or two.

>>10353566
>do you mean:
>higher efficiency
>lower weight
>higher output
>better cooling
>longer lasting
>cheaper production
Yes.

>Remember that Tesla isn't making million dollar supercars and is instead trying to make a car that the average person can afford and daily drive for a decade or two.
Remember that VW in VWGroup is literally car of the people.

>>10348553
fyi trump has tesla's patents

>>10353538
This was literally about the superchargers where the biggest cost is installing them, not the r&d. They were hoping other carmakers join them and everybody installs superchargers which would have helped Tesla a lot. This happened in 2014 and elon retweeted that for some reason. But its even more ridiculous how many People arent understanding that this is 5 years old news.

>>10349418
How much did that really cost him? A relatively small fine?

>>10348586
>>10354507
>VW in VWGroup is literally car of the people.
And they lied about emissions and started setting up the same planned obsolescence hamster wheel every other major automaker did.

Musk is in the rare position to be able to force change by dumping what other car companies would sit on for decades (save for maybe Volvo, which stagnated), and making it financially viable for other companies to expand into electric vehicles because most of the work is already done for them componentwise. If it wasn't for people like him, Linux would be behind a paywall and licensing hell like Windows and a ton of other annoyingly proprietary software. Of course we can't expect companies in general to do the most altruistic thing and *actually* innovate for efficiency instead of creating their own captive market and beating money out of them. Sometimes, people step up and see the benefit to mankind instead of thinking about how they could maximize a profit margin.

The free market is an annoyingly cyclic, oligopolistic, and sociopathic beast, but at least it's better than socialism for innovating. It just needs a kick in the ass to keep it in the competition stage and not the coagulated morass that begs to be trust busted.

Tesla impersonators please go.

Will the real Tesla please stand up?

>>10355892
>Will the real Tesla please stand up?
This is an uncommon phrase at this point, but I just read it in a 20 year old document yesterday. Now I see it here.

I've become convinced none of this is real. I and my real body are either unconscious or in some tank somewhere.

>>10354507
Literally.

>>10355892