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Anyone else here legitimately enjoy the consequences of the antivax movements (i.e.: the illnesses and deaths) because it essentially means naturally selection is taking place?

>> No.10317903

>>10317739
being killed by your parents is natural selection?

>> No.10317910

>>10317903
isn't it though?

>> No.10317932

>>10317903
>parents make bad decision
>lose their offspring
>genetic carriers lost unless they make a new child
>repeat until parental behavior changes

>> No.10319309

>>10317739
Sort of, but the collateral damage (like potential STEM candidates with compromised immune systems) is rather nasty.
Of course, one never hears of anti-vax parents dieing... which is absolutely the preferred outcome, since children can be taught.

>> No.10319333

>>10317903
>>10317932
>Only the antivaxxer's kid is put at risk.

Sorry, that's not how it works. Some number of people cannot be vaccinated for actual physical reasons, for some who are vaccinated the vaccination does not "take."

But they're OK if enough people get vaccinated that the disease cannot really keep a reservoir of infected in the population -- if the chances of the virus finding a new host before the current host is no longer infectious is kept very low by making such potential hosts rare.

Choosing not to vaccinate for frivolous reasons, based on known bad science, and encouraging more people to do the same, is an evil thing to do, and results in people dying because of your idiocy. You being an idiot causing somebody else who is not an idiot to die is not "natural selection" against idiocy.

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>>10319309
>People with with compromised immune systems exiting the gene pool

Nigga that's the fucking objective.

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>>10319333
You fucking retard, we are also fine with it killing people who cannot into immunesystem.

Victory it would still be even if every unvaccinated kid was an asymptomatic carrier.

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>>10317910
>>10317932
by this logic, every life we save with modern technology is also part of natural selection

>> No.10319834

>>10317739
No. You see, each of those corpses represents a victory feast for more bacteria, bacteria with the experience and pedigree to murder more humans. These corpses die, leave behind more advanced viruses, bacteria, fungi etc which mutated and are therefore not only immune to certain antibiotics, but even change sometimes into forms that the vaccine for the original disease cannot defend against.
Winners eat dinners. Don't be next on the microbial menu.

>> No.10320134

>>10319832
Yes that's true.

>>10319333
I never attempted to say we SHOULD let the unvaccinated die. Just that it would be natural selection I'd they did.

>> No.10320167

Fun fact: Even if you got all your childhood vaccines if you are an adult half your immunities have probably worn off.
I recently got my immunities checked because my mum was an anti-vaxxer and I missed some of the later vaccines. Even some of the ones I had the full dose had no immunity.
I encouraged friends and family to get themselves double checked (especially since chickenpox and whooping cough were going around and now measles has made it here) and a bunch of them had things missing too.