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10303712 No.10303712 [Reply] [Original]

I have a degree in mathematics and I still think mathematics is boring and useless. There is math which is useful in physics, engineering, statistics, operations research, computing, etc. but that math is now mostly done outside math departments; math departments instead focus on abstract nonsense.

World's élite universities (e.g. MIT, Princeton) will tell you right away that as their CS student you are considered the best group they have and that math students go slower than you, and increase your load to crazy levels As a CS student, you are expected to master (continuous) calculus, discrete calculus (discrete math proofs, hypercubes for parallel algorithms), optimization (machine/deep learning, compilers), category theory (functional programming), logic (up to automated proofs, i.e. including set theory), differential equations, topology (computational geometry, distributed algorithms), probability and statistics (reinforcement learning, queueing), number theory (cryptography), graph theory (almost everywhere)... There is no functional analysis needed yet, but it's heavily used for PhD degrees anyway. You need to know all this down to the level of proving theorems if you want to achieve anything in CS.

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10303747

>>10303712

>> No.10303753

>>10303747
t. non-élite
lurk more.

>> No.10303765

>>10303753
t. CS student

I am an engineering PhD student at a world top 10 uni, and the ML guys in the CS department I work with know jack shit about many topics such as PDEs/ODEs, advanced linear algebra, complex analysis etc

>> No.10303777

>>10303712
Where does this "CS requires math" meme come from? The only math CS students take is logic/discrete math, calculus 1-2, and linear algebra in the first year. Out of all those, only linear algebra is actually used. And even then you can avoid it if you never touch computer graphics. The formal logic/discrete math (a fancy way of describing COUNTING) needed for CS is so simple and intuitive that 12 year olds who start tinkering with coding to make booby mods for skyrim learn it as they practice coding without even realizing what they are doing. The calc, easily the most interesting math CS majors encounter, is forgotten after year two and never touched on again.

If CS required you to be a mathematician it wouldn't be the industry with the highest number of self taught individuals/practitioners with no formal training.

>> No.10303791

>>10303765
>world top 10 uni
>implying sjw universities are worth anything