/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10278632
>Psuedoscientist
>My pattern recognition ability will tell you how good I am at making money
>Smart but lazy.jpg

>>10278639
this
>hurr durr I am good at recognising patterns
one day I will feed these retarded tests to a CNN in millions with some basic shape separation algorithms and then claim it's the smartest thing in existence because it scores the maximum iq

>>10278655
Make money off it.

send help

>>10278632
What can I do with this? Can I learn anything if I try hard enough?

>>10278697
no, you're just adequately good at recognising basic patterns in sequences.

>did an official aptitude test
>got 99.6th percentile
>last time I attempted one of these pattern recognition things I gave up because I couldn't understand the questions
Feels weird man.
I'm also awful at music. I like music, I try to play guitar and piano but all I have is rote learning. If you asked me to copy a tune I couldn't do it at all without sheet music.

>tfw scored 131 on this one, too
That's the same score I got on the Finnish one and some other test I took.

BUT THE FACEBOOK TEST SAID I AM AN IQ OF 150 WHAT THE HELL

>>10278655
>>10278639
>hurr durr
next you will tell me being able to instanly memorize 100s of digits doesnt mean you have good memory because a computer can memorize millions or magnus carlsen isnt good at chess because any computer can easily beat him
IQ test compare people, brainlet. you can argue all you want that IQ tests arent perfect and dont measure all degress of intelligence but that doesnt change the fact that they measure some degree of intelligence. and that this intelligence has use in the real world.

>>10278753
>and that this intelligence has use in the real world
Given the way the modern world is structured, I genuinely believe that an IQ test is worthless unless it goes hand in hand with an EQ test. Unironically. Who really works alone nowadays or only with other autists? Maybe some guy in research, but that's tiny subset of individuals.

>>10278766
high five

>>10278753
the point is it's a test solely decided for showing if you're good at pattern recognition, brainlet. it's not really an INGELLIGENCE QUOTIENT if a computer which is absolutely dumb, except this one task can beat you at it.
a good iq test should cover the entire spectrum of deduction, knowledge, recognition and application speed etc.

heh. nothing personal, kids

>>10278782
get on my sperg lvl

>>10278782
We've got a bona fide savant autist on the board!

I'm guessing the results are inflated to get you to pay for the controlled test, because I'm a goddamned retard. Also, could anyone explain the last one?

>>10278799
last question?

>>10278799
flip the one on the top row and add/subtract it to the one below it to get the bottom row

According to Lynn, my country has an IQ of 70. After doing this test, I'm convinced that this is incorrect and that he manipulated the data in a way or another to fit his narrative. Or maybe the tests he used were not as culture-neutral as they are today.

>>10278697
>What can I do with this?
You can use it to jerk yourself off.

>>10278806
Goddamn it. I was only looking for horizontal patterns.

>>10278820
These tests are not accurate compared to real ones.

>>10278820
Or maybe the reason your country measured 70 has nothing to do with anything inherent.

>>10278844
this one is tho

>>10278844
Thank you for pointing this out. But it seems to me that IQ tests are mostly based on pattern recognition, right? What I meant is that it doesn't seems to me that my country-men are that bad at pattern recognition.

If all of you have an IQ of 140+, how come most of your posts are so goddamn abysmal?

>>10278844
No it's not.
I did a real one and this matrices are maybe 5% of the whole test.

>>10278858
Meant to >>10278848

>>10278847
Probably. I had much more access to education in my life than my average country-men. But do you have any study supporting the idea that it may be due to other factors than inherent things?

guess iq based of my picture

>>10278854
see
>>10278700

How do I increase my IQ? Are there brain gyms? The brain is a muscle, right? So I should be able to work out and increase its capacity. Does learning a new language actually increase your ability to think logically? So many questions.

>>10278853
That's part of it. There is the verbal part in which they measure whether or not you can explain the meaning of certain words you regularly use (This part may be culturally biased).
The rest is measure your ability to replicate pictures or forms using blocks, how good you are at keeping focus, your response time, how quick you can change your attention and adapt form one task to another, your memory and some other things along those lines.

>>10278873
>How do I increase my IQ? Are there brain gyms? The brain is a muscle, right?
In theory you can.
There is a doctor who developed some exercises to help kids with learning disabilities and he had very significant success. His name is Merzenich, i believe.
He even express his belief that there was an actual increase in their IQ while talking about this.
Another thing about the results is that they seemed to have been long term.

>>10278860
most accurate for free ou there

>>10278864
Howdy

>>10278887
Interesting. Do you think his ideas could be used in public schools, especially kindergarten? Do you think it would be positive and a net benefit?

>>10278888
But limiting a test to pattern recognition is a huge flaw.
In my test i scored 140. I did really well on the pattern recognition, memory, planning, abstraction, verbal and some others, but did very poorly in the ones that gauge attention, adaptation and response time.

If you were to take only one of those segments to determine my IQ the results would be very skewed.

Btw, i was diagnosed with high functioning ADD, and am now taking meds.

>>10278854
Most IQs here are actually under 120

>>10278899
what do you think iq is???

>>10278891]
>Do you think his ideas could be used in public schools, especially kindergarten? Do you think it would be positive and a net benefit?
Absolutely.
The book that i read that mentions his work also goes on to explain on a neurological level how the learning process takes place.
In kindergarden the kids are going through critical periods in the brain and their basal nucleous is highly active. This increases their neuroplasticity and makes it easier for them to learn. Also at that age, the brain is still perfecting the function of it's individual neurons. What it means is that as they learn more a certain skill or how to process a certain stimulus, the neurons in the area in charge of that become more specialized. Without gettnig into much detail, it means that by stimulating their learning at that age, makes it easier for them to have a higher density of greater specialized neurons within the part of the brain that process the respective function.
In my opinion the greates flaw in the education system is that it completely neglects neuroplasticity. This is a brain property that basically not leveraged at all in school.

>>10278914
Somewhere between 140 and 150.

>>10278899
+ this test measures floating IQ not crysalized(knowledge)

>>10278632
Still 130

>>10278919
Interesting. It's worth exploring. I personally think that kindergarten should focus on increasing the self-discipline and the learning capacities of the kids(neuroplasticity as you say), because they are the best predictors of academic success. Using Merzenich's ideas would have a very good effect.

What book do you read btw?

>>10278919
>>10278939
Did Merzenich also do something to improve self-discipline btw?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16313657/

>>10278939
The Brain That Changes Itselt
Something else is worth noting about your initial question.
There is an experiment that is mentioned in the book that maps the brains of blind people learning braille where they practiced from monday to friday, every week for several months. In this experiment they, in layman terms, measured, the size of the area of the brain that's being used while performing that function. They took measurements at the begginning of the week and at the end of it.
They notice that at the end of it the area was bigger, but then the following monday, it would go back to it's initial size. They kept improving though.
What this means is that they were uncovering already existing neural pathways and allocating them to that function. However, six months later, these areas started to expand, reaching a plato after 10 months. This basically means that initially, the process of perfecting that skill was being done by allocating existing pathways to perform the function, but after a certain time the brain started forming new pathways to have other areas of the brain to also process that function.

What i wanna point out by this is that, just because you noticed a lack of significant improvement for a certain time, doesn't mean you reached your limit. There might be more improvement coming down the road.

>>10278966
>The Brain That Changes Itself
That's the name of the book.

>>10278966
>>10278971
Thanks! That's very interesting

>>10278944
>Did Merzenich also do something to improve self-discipline btw?
No, but the book has another example of a woman called Barbara Arrowsmith-Young who might give you some insight about that.
She had a severe learning disability. She was basically retarded in some respects. The way she managed to advance through school is by literally memorizing her lectures and text books. This was not an innate ability of hers, it was something she learned how to do and improved to a prodigious level.
Despite that she was still retarded to understand really simple stuff. She couldn't even tell the time when she looked at a clock. The when she at her late 20s she started developing exercises to fix these issues with her brain. In one of them she created several cards with the drawing of a clock and she would practice for hours telling the time. She improved this exercise by not only having a clock with just hours, minutes and seconds, but also had days, months and other lenghts of time.
She had remarkable improvement on that but the most important thing about these exercises that she developed is that they started improving other brain functions that weren't initially the point. She couldn't understand the meaning of a simple sentence when she read a book, but after months of these exercises she was able to read and understand philosophy books, which she always wanted too.
She mentions that the first time she did this, she thought it was a fluke, but then she got another one and at a certain point she had read several of them with a clear understanding of what she read.
So this might give you some insight about self-discipline.

>>10278994
Very insightful post. Thank you again. I will definitely check this book

>>10278994
ohh I have heard about this before.

Some people are completly fucked brains they have High IQ but understands nothing. but throught absurd repetition they learn to understand.

and as that ability gets stronger they gain an exponential growth

>>10278944
>>10278994
Another thing about the discipline part which i think is important.
In the book there is also another experiment they mention something called "learned disuse".
I can explain the whole experiment if you want, but the idea is basically that you have to commit to overcoming the difficulty. One VERY important aspect of this is that you need to do it by small increments and then rewards after each progression.
They mention this very clearly that by going straight to a difficult progression you are gonna stall. You need to take a small step, then when you are comfortable with that, you go to the next evolution.
They mention reward during this process. When initially the person was rewarded for a small accomplishment, then the rewards were contingent to them being able to conquer the next stage.

>>10278632
>just pattern recognition
then its not a real iq test, the weschler isn’t just pattern recognition. go take a fucking proctored exam

>>10279007
wouldnt playing challenging games with new mechanis increase neuroplastic

or just challenging games in general

>>10279007
And to clarify the "learned disuse" term.
Lets say you have trouble with reading comprehension. Then instead of insisting on it and trying to improve you go to audiobooks or you have them as a primary choice. Basically what will happen is that your reading comprehension is gonna plummet even further.

>>10279014
seems like alot of people dont actually know what IQ is

there is crystalized and fluid . + some other aspects on the high end

IQ is problem solving in its simplest form

the world and everything around you is patterns and nothing else. everything is build on patterns.

its seems like sci is severly lacking in understanding

>>10279023
Yep, he has a nigger definition of what "pattern" is

>>10278854
the dumb posters take the test, get a 120, and feel too ashamed to post here.

>>10279015
Depends on the game and on what it's meant to improve.
There are mentions in the book where games where used to help kids overcome their learning difficulties but can't comment on the specifics of these games that made them effective.

>>10279007
>>10279019
I wonder how we can applies what we know in neuroscience to improve education. Should neuroscientists take a part to the writing of the programs? Should preschool teachers have an education in neuroscience?

Or maybe we can integrate all of that into games >>10279015, created with the direction of neuroscientists. The educators will thus not need any knowledge of neuroscience and will just need to apply the rules of the games while the kids play.

>>10279023
No you have no idea what you’re talking about at all, look up stanford-binet and weschler’s and stop being a retarded faggot
>the world is just patterns
incredible vapidity

if you can’t react quickly, remember anything, reorder information or abstract properly you’re just a machinic sperg and useless for most higher level work. This is one of the subtests, there are about half dozen others that are missing. Raven matrices aren’t even as g loaded as the vocabulary and concept matching sub tests

>>10279033
whit an IQ of 120 you can have an extremly sucessful life, and communicate with people smarter than you as well as people that arnt as smart as you.

you will also be less likely to get any mental illness related to having high iq.

>>10279041
>I wonder how we can applies what we know in neuroscience to improve education. Should neuroscientists take a part to the writing of the programs? Should preschool teachers have an education in neuroscience?
As i said ealier, neuroplasticity is highly underrated in education.
They probably would've had exponentially better results if they had used all that money directed into common core, to apply this into education.

>>10279042

you still dont seem to grashp what IQ is. you throw around alot of fun words but thats about it.

tell me in one sentence what IQ is

I would really like to see the relation of IQ and EQ in regards to success in life. Some people claim for EQ to be meme that was merely invented to sugarcoat a low or average IQ, but given the way society functions and leading positions are being distributed and assigned, I really don't see how an individual doesn't at least need a reasonably high EQ to be successful. Any management or leading position requires a certain ability to read and understand human behavior. And unlike chess, the moves that are being made aren't predetermined. So someone who tries to anticipate a humans action can't rely on IQ. There are no clean cut strategies since people can just leave the boundries of what is reasonable.

What do you guys think of this? How important is EQ and will we ever get a method to accurately measure it? I don't think there's a point in debating the existence of EQ. It's pretty clear that some humans are more skilled at reading and understanding human behavior and emotions than others. Ergo, they are able to read patterns, that instead of being chained to simple logical constructs, are chained to commonly observed human behavior. Being able to use your ability to emphasize with someone is an immeasurably valuable skill.

>>10279055
IQ is a measure of performance on a series of subtests which are highly g loaded and a proxy for general intelligence, iq is usually subdivided into multiple components typically separated by larger subcategories: fluid and acquired/crystalline intelligence; some of these include pattern recognition, visual-spatial reasoning, quantitative reasoning, working memory, reaction time and verbal reasoning with variance in the structure of the tests dependent upon the parameters decided upon by its creators but generally converging on the aforementioned structure; verbal reasoning, concept matching/relation and pattern recognition are by the most g loaded of the subtests, however some populations differ in their performance in these 3 subtests with women doing far better on the verbal subtest than pattern recognition and populations like Ashenazi Jews showing inordinate weakness on visual-spatial tests but excelling in quantitative, working memory, verbal and abstract reasoning; thus its generally considered prudent to subject people to the full battery of tests, specifically because of these differences but also because certain mental disorders like ADHD can severely skew test performance (working memory and attentionally taxing subtests will be disproportionately bad compared to other subtests).

>>10279055
am going to bed. but here is the answer

its learning=problem solving

and since there is a high correlation betwine G factors if you score high on one of them you most likely score similar on all of them
except for the very high end 135+ iq STD 15

where the diffrent G factors starts to get more spread out.

>>10279070
except there is variance in performance on the subtests so a person who would score 130-140 on an iq test might only score 120 on a pure verbal or pure matrix reasoning test and likewise for a test heavily dependent on reaction time or working memory for someone with any number attentional disorders.

>>10278888
The most accurate one is giqtest.net
Normally you need to pay but you can paste https://giqtest.com/iq-test/finalReport.html?testId=X&payOverride=true and put ID where X is

>>10279045
100% true.
>>10279064
I think EQ is worth more the higher your IQ is. Measuring EQ is probably impossible or extremely difficult outside of maybe an interview format.

>>10279064
EQ is impossible to measure

who else took it more than once? I got 130 the first time.

>>10279113
every subsequent test you take lowers its g loading and renders it more useless as a proxy for general intelligence

If anyone doesn't understand any of these, I can explain it to you. They really aren't hard if you have the three braincells it takes to do a simple XOR.

>>10279125
you’re lowering the efficacy of the test by telling people this.

>>10279123
i had a beer last night, peter

>>10278632
When you do test twice, you gain IQ ... Cringe.
If you do it twice with fucking years between the test, you score higher on second one. It's not just ability, but mostly experience.

>>10278639
Good at making money isn't some universal quantificator of anything but making money.

How many of you would pay for an IQ test?

>>10279320
i paid 10 euros, got 148 (cattells), i did it to praise my intelligence only.

>>10279320
Does it involves taking drugs?

>>10279320
I want compensation for my wasted time.

>>10279320
Nothing.

>>10278632
>Clicked finish at 70%
>Still got 120 iq

These are the four that gave me the most trouble. Everything else I could understand what was going on but this one just left me confused to the patterns.

>>10278632
My iq is 300

I scored 105 on a real test i paid for and the test you posted gave me the following result

>>10279374
Also yeah, brainlet for /sci/ standards, but whatever.

>>10279374
For the last one, for each coordinate (x,y), if (x,y)_left = black and (x,y)_right = black then (x,y)_result = white, black and white = black and white and white = white, it's just binary addition without remainder

>>10278632
fuck this homogay shit, when i was doing these all the time as a teenager i used to score 140+

time to retire

>>10279390
I don't get it. For the one at the top, was his part affected by the one below it? How much affects each piece?

>>10279418
just add vertically the first two to get the third one, two black cancel out, black plus white gives black

this means that the empty one should be option six - just the one bottom rightmost square left

>>10279428
>add vertically
Then how does one column get to the next one?

Look, just draw a picture of what you're talking about. I need a visual aid for this.

>>10279374
Same, but only the 1st and 3rd one.

>>10279418
those that dont overalp stays simple as that=turns black.

all that overalp gets removed=turns whiye

I have a brain disease and I am getting results to real IQ testing on Wednesday.

I am terrified to see my IQ loss...

I guess i am just too smart to fail because, i am so surprised to have got an A in my biology class last semester, I have many suicidal thoughts after The brain disease and have felt terribly sick for months.

>>10279374
riddle explanation

>>10279131
>being this brainlet
The test is not being actively developed. It's already been determined which scores correspond with which apparent IQ.

>>10279451
btw for anyone who can't figure these out please kill or castrate yourself immediately

>>10279476
thats a bit harse. i removed the answers feels bad doing it too the person that created it

>>10278820
If you didn't realize that an internet IQ test isn't reliable, then you're probably not very intelligent.
Anyways, Lynn was accused of only using the IQ studies where the specific African countries were the worst. Some new researchers put the average Sub-Saharan African IQ at 80, but they're now accused of only using elite samples. So the average IQ of Sub-Saharan Africans is probably between 70 and 80.

>>10279500
That seems far too low. 1.5-2 std devs below the world mean is extremely low

>scored 151 when i was 7
>scored 123 today, 21 years old

>>10279517
age adjustment is bullshit

>>10279525
I disagree. Seeing patterns that clearly early on shows a genuine intelligence. Once a person has aged enough (maybe 16-20) to know all the tricks, this person no longer demonstrates natural gift.

However, I don't think age adjustment should be given after a certain point.

>>10279374
For 29 in each row adding the black on left and subtracting black on right in first 2 images tells you net amount of blacks to put on left. Same goes for white.

>>10279517
Not that unusual.
I myself was placed in a gifted program at age 9 since I scored a 140 something on an IQ test. Fast forward to 12 years later, and my IQ is a genuine 108. Heritability of IQ ensures that scores don't mean much before age 17 or so.

Which robot am I helping?

guys, this test is bullshit. it said i have an iq of 121. i dropped out of computer science. there's no way i have an iq above 100. you probably have to subtract at least 30 points to get an approximation of your real iq.

>>10279374
A circle doubles the straight lines and makes them fall a little. Half a circle does not double the lines and make fallen lines straight.
For 30, the ones that overlap get white.
The rest I'm not sure

What calculus do I do to know the exact iq for my age based on the points I got in this test?

i got a 115 picking random answers on this meme test. Also can‘t get anything below 85 without the „unmeasurable“ coming up

>tfw 121
It's over.
>>10279374
The last one was easy, the other three were completely alien shit for me. If the other anon didn't explain how the 35 worked earlier itt, it would take a me hours to understand it.

>>10278758
eq is not a real thing. its invented by salty social scientists to cope. social intelligence and neuroticism on the other hand...

>>10279374
>35
Rotate and eliminate overlapping ones (i.e. the last one on the second row)
>33
1. Combining the lines makes overlapping lines dissapear
2. 2 lines at 45 degrees produce a semi-circle (i.e the last on the first row)
>29
Substract the opposing sides and add the same sides of the first 2 on each column (i.e the last on the first row)
>30
Substract the overlapping cubes (i.e. the last one on the second row)

>>10278632
is there something harder? honestly this was piss easy

>>10278632
Ok, boyos, time for the real stuff.

>>10279621
>is there something harder?
pic related

>>10279621
No, that's the point of a standardized IQ test that has to include the whole spectrum.

>>10279628
holy shit that website design
will try though, thanks!

>>10278632
>http://test.mensa.no/
how much do I have to substact to get my real IQ score?
also
>outta the way brainlets

>>10278864
howdy

>>10278864
howdy

If you get sub 140 get off this board.

>>10279679
As a rule of thumb for a rough approximation, do the 3-4 somewhat legit(-erish) tests, add the scores and round up to the nearest lower SD (i.e you'd be around the ~130 (2 SD)).
>real IQ score
Pay mensa 20 bucks or take a professionally administered one for several hundred $.

>tfw you get the same score of 131 on all these shitty tests
Granted, English is my tertiary language but still

Everyone above 120 is officially invited to >>>/lit/
the true intellectuals board

>>10279529
I see patterns all the time but I got 115 on this test.
121 after the first time I took it though. I just took it twice. It's getting easier. My IQ must be going up

>>10279711
But you guys are brainlets with high IQ. The quality of the posts is shit.
I don't understand why nothing gets done.

>>10279711
>gets 143
>"If you get sub 140 get off this board"

So you're saying you're the absolute bottom of the barrel among people allowed on this board? That you barely qualify to post here?

>tfw have no problem with the logic/pattern recognition part but can't rotate complex shapes in my head to check

>>10280000
>tfw you're the exact opposite
Rotation and imagining objects is extremely easy for me but when I have to look at weird ass patterns I am lost.

>>10279819
I remember asking that board what would happen to their favorite book if Shrek replaced the main character.

>>10279998
That's correct, I'm a brainlet compared to the actual smart people. I do not disagree.

i did 63% of the test, got bored, got 103

>>10280171
>can't even answer 30 question before he gets bored
ADHD confirmed

>>10279574
>A circle doubles the straight lines and makes them fall a little. Half a circle does not double the lines and make fallen lines straight.

what the fuck am i reading? You cut the full shape in half vertically, invert the right half, and then mirror the right half,

>117
>skipped 6-7 questions
fuck everything I'm going to bed

>>10279755
>madonna 140

Did you know that the average in the Mensa online IQ tests is actually 130 so that more people buy their real IQ tests as they think they have a chance of making it into Mensa?

Try it out, you can mash out completely random answers and still get something like 90-100.

>>10280755
>Did you know that the average in the Mensa online IQ tests is actually 130
As someone who did the finnish Mensa test in a Discord group of 80 people I can tell that you're full of shit. Of the 80 people on that server, ~40 took the test at the same time and only 10 or so scored 130+. Most scored around 120.

>>10280764
>Discord group
>below average intelligence
I don't see the problem here

>>10280755
I'm probably one of the few here who has taken the real Mensa IQ test after the online test. In the online test I scored 134 and in the real test I scored 108, so it's definitely inflated.

The scores seem heavily inflated in terms of actual IQ value

>>10278632
I'm going to tell everyone I have an IQ of 130 and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>>10278632
>The first IQ test thread of the year
We have had IQ threads every day of this current year. You are the 27th thread.

>>10278820
I agree with this, I used a proxy to connect to the site and it gave me this.
Mind you I get 128 on all my other tests.

look at >>10279378 I think these guys are geofacists

>>10279628
/lit/fag here, i doubt this is accurate. It doesn't take 143 vIQ to know the definition of words like malevolent or adroit, or what is the semantic link between digestion and burning is. It seems really stupid.

>didn't even finish it because I was doing it half-assed while watching tv in a room with 3 other people
Do they artificially inflate the scores to try to convince people to pay for official tests?

>>10281266
Most people are pretty stupid, Anon.

i imagine scores would fall pretty hard if no one had done any math beyond algebra throughout their life

>>10278632
test is probably deeply flawed
pic related is my ancestry, but i scored a 143 on this test.
based on the widely-accepted average of 85 it's far more likely that the test has given invalid results than that I'm actually 3SD above the average negroid.
this is of course assuming that the specific "average" that I should compare myself to is that of sub-saharan Africans, which imo makes sense since I do have the negro skin color / face structure phenotype

>>10281349
>unironically suggesting that environmental factors can have a dominant effect on IQ test scores
not allowed around here m8

>>10281356
well, when you're dealing with something timed, it's all about familiarity. how well grooved are the neural pathways for those type of questions. How many subconscious neural short cuts--which yes, are affected by practice and experience--is your brain able to take. If there were no time limit I would agree with you.

>>10281351
What the fuck is wrong with you? Ofc black people can have high IQ, it's a question of probability. And your proof that it would be flawed is just anecdotal with very vague proof based on racism (even if it's racist against yourself).

>>10281351
those results aren't valid until you have a twin study where one twin is raised in their native land and the other is raised in europe or america.

>>10281425
a meta-study did recently show that each additional school grade completed resulted in several additional iq points...so it stands to reason that someone who has done 5+ more years of advanced math would score higher on this test.

Is there anyone on here who hasn't gone beyond algebra 2 and yet scored around 140 on this test?

>>10281351
Dios mio...

>>10279113
took it 3 times, each time i gained 10 points of "IQ"

>>10279042
>Tries to argue with insectoid autists
You have to realize that people on this board have an interest in propagating the idea that intelligence is only about patterns. The Insectoid Autist is unable to process verbalities and high culture information. In order to propagate its genes, it must convince potential mates that it is superior in the cephalic department. The facts, however, point out that verbal abilities predict school and life success much better than 'patterns' and other so called 'culture fair' tests. This however doesn't fit the insectoid narrative and therefore is ignored.

>>10280000
Same issue desu.

>>10281465
me. but i taught myself advanced math after dropping out of high school at 15. and i dropped out because i was depressed, not stupid.

?

>>10281588
I think it was second top.

>>10281588
Top middle. It's substraction/addition shit again.

>>10281559
lol. the autisme in you is high as 420

>>10281588
le wat

>>10281266
Apparently it does, I don't know what adroit means and I don't even have any idea based on the roots, probably some french bullshit.

>People getting 140+

enjoy your schizophrenia and bipolar disease when you get older

>>10281726
>implying i had to wait until i got older to experience them
iq has dropped but as long as i'm manic i can get it back. diminishing returns though. nowadays i don't enjoy false hope too much. just kinda accept that i used to be smart.

>>10281726
already have them (sort of) and like >>10281733 it has dropped commensurately (and noticably).

>>10281726
yup I have scizofrenia and bed riden
been in instiution for 5 years.
stress induced, combination of work and school(i dont do drugs)
this is me >>10278782

I'm one of those fucking losers who had dreams of being a """polymath""" and stretched myself too thin trying to learn art and STEM while """studying""" philosophy and playing music, also I used to write stories but now I mostly write about how much I hate myself. I should have just picked something and stuck with it.

>>10281792
>being reasonably competent in various fields is bad
You people need to stop thinking that there's some point to life. Should have went to law school and specialized in IP law. That way you might have been able to make use of most of those skills you now consider useless.

>>10281792
Sounds like a low dopamine issue, instead of chasing money you were chasing bullshit.

>>10281815
I should have done something more useful. Gotta see if I can salvage all those wasted years somehow.

>>10281822
That is absolutely true, anon.

>>10281828
>I should have done something more useful.
>self-fulfillment is pointless
Literal corporate drones. Americans are such a brainwashed bunch of individuals it's almost pitiful.

>>10281833
Yeah, but it hits hard to realize you're nowhere closer to success or accomplishment after trying so hard to become some unattainable idealized version of a human being. People much smarter than I would have settled for just having hobbies in addition to their professional lives, or focused on something for long enough to at least complete the equivalent of a bachelor's or master's degree.

To this day I still do not understand how people can settle for being corporate drones, as you said. But I do understand a lot more about the value of hard work and dedication.

>>10281844
>People much smarter than I would have settled for just having hobbies in addition to their professional lives
Basically what actual polymaths did back then. Of course, you won't see people being polymaths today because you can't solve today's scientific questions in your basement.

>>10281844
life is absurdly unfair for 70% of the world. find a hobby. and live a good long life

>>10281351
>Im black and im smart how come?
>how are you dumb if you wear glasses?
Same logic.

>>10281865
Exactly. There is too much work, too many fields, too much information. Actual polymaths actually contributed valuable things. A lot, if not most of them, also only dabbled in outside fields in an intellectual way -- they did not focus so much on technical mastery as gaining knowledge, which given their professional skillset allowed them to make small breakthroughs, or at least progress at a sure rate.

It's funny though, I have to say; I look at modern "polymaths" in 150+ IQ clubs who put their "art" and "music" and "poetry" online, and from my perspective, most of it is complete fucking shit. So if nothing else I can satisfy my vanity on cold lonely nights by reassuring myself that I'm still better than them in some way.

>>10281866
Appreciate the condolences fren. We'll see what happens. Hopefully others who floundered like I have can still find some peace and relaxation in this life.

>start doing exams at 8 yo because school psych was bored
>140
>"wow anon you'se smart"
>keep doing over the years
>steady 130-140 until 17
>drop to 120-ish in latest two
>"Your IQ was measured to 123, which is equivalent to the 93.7 percentile."
What gives? I was never smart at all in the first place but I'd like to know.

>>10281898
Age adjustment.

race is usually where there are old models and new models, from populations who 'race' the world.

>>10278655
Dew it

>>10281888
and find someone in the 120-150iq range and befriend them. i have a super smart accross the board friend and i learn tons from him. and sometimes i teach him somethings of my own.

without my fren i would be hopelessly lost. and lonely.

take care

>>10281351
El Monstruo

Got 140, still an unsuccessful virgin so whatever

The only one I blanked on was this. What's the logic here?

>>10281351
/pol/ false flag or self hating african

>>10281941
Y-you take care too!

>>10281588
Mine were different than that but looks similarly anyway:

w + b = b
b + b = w
w + w = irrelevant, only 1 has a white mid square. answer is top mid

>>10281979
I interpreted it as "place at least 1 line where the arrow is pointing", so the top right one. But im fairly sure this isn't it

>>10281979
pretty sure it's #2

>>10281979
Picked 4th.

You spin the left by 45 degrees to the right, lay it on top of the center one, subtract or add lines depending on whether they overlap, and spin it back by 45 degrees.

>>10282433
That makes sense

Although that's very odd compared to all other questions

>115
Shouldn't have smoked that much of weed as a teen.How do I recover guys?

>>10282444
I just imagined the diamond falling to the left and then XORing with the square on the left to form the right square.

Hmm I took optics, EM, and analytical mech. last quarter and manged to get a 4.0. My IQ is only 107. I wonder how I did better than the most of my peers if they're an average of 128. I don't even study that much. Usually 2hrs a day except weekends to review or do any assignments. IQ tests have little indication of success for those over 100.

>>10281549
Literally just being in the right rhythm can dramatically change your scores in this shit.

If I forget to take a shit in the morning my "IQ" will be like 25 points lower all day.

>>10278864
howdy

>>10281429
>it's a question of probability
obviously. that's why i contrasted the likelihood (aka the probability) that I am a >3SD outlier (with a mean of 85 and SD of 15, the chance of an IQ of 143 is less than 0.01%) against the likelihood of an inaccuracy in the test result.
>racism
the 85 average IQ of sub-saharan africans is a fact proven by science, nothing vague or racist about it.
as for it being a mere "anecdote", there clearly exist results that should basically never be returned by any accurate test. 143 for a black american is one such result, and should be enough to at least raise suspicion.

>>10282542
you probably actually study instead of "studying" like most do. Any studying tips?

>>10282659
Gun safety class.

>>10278632
>106
>tfw brainlet

>>10278820
Do you know what distributions are you fucking nigger ? You're just on the right of the distribution, i'm surprised you scored above 100 with that poor understanding of high school statistics

IQ tests aren't timed? what's the g loading advantage in there being a short time limit here? is it efficacious to test intuitive thought over conscious thought when measuring g?

the entire test pretty much rests on application of +/- and rotation on rows. That seems pretty responsive to practice/exp.

also, we know there are location specific neurons dedicated exclusively to this or that type of intelligence proficiency. are there any studies showing that higher intelligence of one type (ie musical or linguistic) positively correlates with g?

>>10278774
What do you think intelligence is defined as in humans, retard? It's the ability recognize patterns, and the more intelligence you are, the more you can recognize, including those that are obscure, very large scale, with lots of noise, etc.

>>10281549
>>10282543
>taking the exam multiple times
>"hehe, looks like I increased my 'IQ', heh idiots"

>>10282826
That's why the smart people in this thread took the other IQ test.

anyone got 35? no matter how i rotate and subtract it feels like the third column has less than the difference of the first two... & where does the dotted line come from?

>take test
>goes well for first few
>by the time I’m at 30% done have no clue what I’m doing, just picking what I think would be the next one
>thinking it’s gonna be wrong and I’m gonna get a room temp IQ
>this shit happens
>confusedmasseffect.webm

>>10282839
It doesn't tell what you got right or wrong, so he difference is literally just a little bit of practice spent ruminating on it to get in the zone.

If you were to do some math problems back to back, then do the same test again without being told your score from the first time, it would be the exact same situation.

>>10282921
No. Because you can chew on the problems long after the exam is over, even subconsciously. The whole point is that it's your first exposure to the problems, and time matters.

>>10283010
It's never gonna be fair, though. If some guy does a dozen online IQ tests and then does a real one and is already accustomed of spinning things about to add and substract, then they are automatically more likely to score well. These sort of pattern recognition tests favor people who do shit like this often or are into quizzes.

>>10282894
It weighs speed way too heavily so just blowing through it like that is a good strategy.

>>10283022
>fair
The world is not fair. Mother nature is a cruel mistress and some people are simply better than others, both by virtue of their genes and their environment. But I think you mean it's not standardized because puzzle enthusiasts or mathematicians will already be familiar with the ideas being conveyed int he test and won't be taking it in for the first time. This is a fair criticism, but this is a very small subset of the general population, and the psychometric utility of IQ continues to hold, in general.

>>10282894
>>10283036
Noticed this as well.

So age adjustment is the assumption that people will have practiced the skills tested as they age?

>>10283037
heritability of iq is 60%. is this test focusing the 60% genetic influence or 40% environment? based on the issues raised in other posts, it seems to be more a measure the 40%E than 60%G

>>10282668
Take notes in class even if redundant or the content is simple to understand. The emphasis being another form of repetition to get the material ingrained in memory. Professors will meme that you only remember 5% of a lecture but honestly that is where I'd say majority of my knowledge comes from. I could just have a superior memory though which is different than pattern identification like an IQ test.

I'll do a quick review of each class after school, which is usually not necessary as you'll have an assignment or book problems/reading (yes I actually read the book) that are your review.

Make sure to do assignments as soon as you have time instead of waiting until last minute. I will often return to the assignment at a later date for changes. Most common with lab reports. Also, doing assignments early will keep yourself current on the material during lectures. You could study ahead, but I haven't found that necessary to succeed in a class.

I'd say the most important part is to make sure you understand your homework/readings. I use YouTube/Wikipedia/online notes for examples if I don't feel comfortable understanding a problem. I can get the answer but I don't know exactly why or how. That seems to be the breaking point for most students. Any student that takes calc can do Taylor polynomials, but ask them what it means, how it's useful, etc and you'll often get a blank stare.

>>10278864
howdy

>>10281992
Do you think it's a coincidence that every halfway-smart negroid is "self-hating"?

An IQ score of 140 on an online test is actually an IQ of 110 "in real life."

Anyone who gets below 130 is nigger brain.

Oh, another IQ thread with 200+ replies

>>10283684
seething retard
>>10283702
coping retard

>>10283719
dont worry mommy thinks ur special just like ur internet friends say you are

>>10283719
Online tests are bs and this one is especially bad.

>>10278632
Is speed weighted heavily on this test? It must be or I got extremely lucky, from 43% and onward I literally just clicked trough to see what would happen. Just clicked entirely randomly for the rest in like 10 seconds and finished with like 15 minutes to spear and got 119.

>>10283724
>>10283736
cope

>>10283744

>>10283744
IF YOU SAY COPE ONE MORE TIME IM GONNA FUCKING CRACK YOUR HEAD IN RUNT

>>10283753
>>10283752
Keep coping retards

>>10278864
Howdy

>>10278864
120
howdy

>>10283741
speed isn't weighted. online tests will tell you when speed is a factor. obviously that also undermines the g loading like other anons have said but in my opinion you're good if you take 45 minutes at most.

>>10281673
What even are the verbal questions?
>mobile fagging
I don't care.

>>10283283
At our age (19-25), its closer to .8, what you're working with now is what you have for the rest of your life man.

>>10283968
you got it backwards. heritability increases with age. you don't get near .8 till you're 60's. have you thought hard about how exactly the genetic influence obtains? It shapes your personality giving you appetites for iq increasing thought patterns. you see how that implies increased influence later in life?

Actually better than I was expecting

>>10283036
Thing is I had like 5 minutes left on the timer, so either I got insanely lucky or I’m actually high IQ. Don’t know which one is the more unfeasible.

>>10284044
luck. the answers always luck.

iq is horoscopecore on par with myers–briggs.

t. big think brain boi

>>10278632
Pretty easy test though, most of the first half were the same patterns with different symbols.

>>10284132
High IQ post

got 127 and skipped the last 10 reponse
i would probably peak at 150-155 normaly :)
feels good being the smartest guy on /sci/

>>10278632
>http://test.mensa.no/

I gave up at 6 minutes (last 3 questions).

>>10278632
>http://test.mensa.no/

Here, my results of 123 upset me greatly so I played around a bit and got this.

If you type in answers 1,2,3,4,5,6 repeatedly ending on 5 at question 35 you get the IQ of 101 or just above average and don't waste 25 minutes of your time.

>>10284132
it still has descriptive power though :^)

>>10284322
>I missed the hardest ones and got a low score
>feels good being the smartest guy on /sci/

>>10284299
Seriously, someome explain the verbal questions to me.
>>10283962

>tfw English is tertiary language and you scored 140 on the verbal portion
Meanwhile I scored badly on the patterns and ended up with 131 on average. Guess that's why I am a lawyer, not an engineer.

>>10284347
lol 101 iq, you fucking brainlet lmao, idiot

>>10284745
Guessing quickly means you are above average intelligence on this meme quiz

>>10281782
whats your thinking like?

what goes through your mind when u solve these

also when did you become schizophrenic,?
and did it make u dumber?

just curious

>>10281726
actually the SNP schizophrenia mutations are more rare in high iq individuals.

coping

is it a coincidence that iq threads are always 50% cope

>>10284473
They're the definitions and word relationship questions, and I'd guess the arithmetic section also factors in.

/sci/fags version of dick size comparison threads.

I read somewhere that only 3% of Latin America's population is 100+ IQ, sounds scary as shit. Even though I still think IQ is a meme, this explain so many things.

>>10278632
Make it the LAST IQ Thread of the year.

>>10278632
I didn’t focus for half of the test
How do I get focus for 10 min?

>>10284347
You took it seriously
Ayyyyy LAMO

>>10278632
I am too smart for test

this is nothing but a videogame

>>10286986
life is a videogame

>>10281726
man, I really hope you are wrong
my father developed shizophrenia, lost a fortune and died
at least I didn't score as high as >>10281782

>>10286994
i think schizophrenia in high-iq individuals is correlated with specialization of knowledge and a lack of reality-testing. it seems like paranoid schizophrenia is the most common high-iq manifestation. i guess my advice to you is not to get stuck on any single thing, be sure to read the literature and use your intelligence to understand the world instead of becoming delusional because you process information faster than others without necessarily having the knowledge to verify your conclusions.

>>10286999
thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it
and nice trips

>>10285337
right tail of the curve mental disorders likely covary with high iq alleles, see Ashkenazim and mathematicians. In general no, but high iq pheno far less affected by schizo disorder cognitive deficits than normal iq population (almost indistinguishable premorbid cog performance). Not enough research to clarify if high is protective or if high iq people have better fitness; also, why high iq and mental illness seem to walk so closely in ashkenazim.

>>10286988
only you cant win

I'm a chemistry student. Am i too dumb for this field? I'm a bit disappointed

>>10287045
>Am i too dumb for this field?
>getting 114 performance on an online IQ test
You're too dumb for higher education as a whole, bruv.

>>10287115
I got 131 on the mensa.no test. That must mean I'm decent at least... Right?

>math postdoc who helps me out occasionally told me I was gifted and could go quite far if I kept working hard
Is it safe to assume I have a high IQ?

Am I looking good guys?
I am in BioChem rn.

I was confused at first, thought I was browsing /biz/

>>10278632
>just click randomly
>Your IQ was measured to 97, which is equivalent to the 42.1 percentile.

What the fuck?

>>10287314
Doens't seem to be very far off.

>>10278632
what would i get in a real one?

>>10278864
howdy

>>10287558
115-118.

>>10278864
136
Howdy

>>10286932
What is the point of practicing for an IQ test? Does that not beat the purpose?

>>10278864
howdy

>>10278632
I got 91 by randomly clicking. So 27,4% of people are dumber than me randomly clicking??? Or this test is shit and can't really measure low IQ.

>>10288439
>t. no understanding of normal law and basic statistics

>>10287119
yes it does. that anon was being unnecessarily gatekeepy. it doesn't take a super high iq to be accomplished. as long as you have dedication and discipline you can do pretty much anything!

>>10279507
hold a conversation with your average African

>>10288900
have you ever held a conversation with your average African?

>>10281596
>>10281782
you're dutch or flemish, I can tell

>>10281266
great, you fucking ruined it. The site is now down.
I already know my real scores though.
VIQ: 137 PIQ: 96

>>10289050
Nothing last forever anon.

>>10279079
Doesn't work

>>10279619
None of those explanations make sense.

>>10289039
norway actually

>>10290986
The site is down

>>10282875
Screenshot it

>>10282875
mirror the top row horizontaly then put it ontop of the middle row remove all that overall

>>10291046
overlap

>>10280012
>>10280000
It's Abstract vs Concrete thinking. Kinda makes sense that people who are good at one aren't as good at the other. That's really common I feel like. I'm way more abstract personally. I imagine the average on 4chan is also skewed towards abstract because concrete thinkers tend to be outside interacting with the physical world. Not inside, in their own minds in an abstract space behind their computer.

>>10278632
this test is almost fully memorizable by the third attempt

>>10278679
I just clicked randomly and scored 95 somewhat consistently. How is this possible

hurr durr

>>10291314
The average person is also guessing on a level equal to chance after the first few questions.

>>10279517
> be 8 get iq of 145
>be 30, iq is now 129
Oh well, at least I live in a time where I can jerk it to anime pussy

>law student in 04/08/2019

Feeling shit right now, how can I upgrade my brain anons? I've been fueling it with Runescape, League, Fortnite and browsing for the last 5 years.

>>10278632
I got an IQ of 117. IQ tests are unreliable. Most real tests measure information known in a certain amount of time, like school. And that's not including the bad tests. As I'm autistic, I took two different IQ tests. One was in 4th grade, I got a 145 in Geometric shapes/math and a high 110's in verbal. One was in 11th grade, I got a 140 in Geometric shapes/math and a high 80's in verbal. They were two different tests.

>>10278864
howdy

>>10291695
What was your score on the LSAT?

>>10291954
>154 lsat
>113 this iq test

I was always at risk of failing out of school till it finally happened in 11th grade (trouble at home). Then I went to jr college 4.0, top 20 uni 3.0 (philosophy). I look dumb on tests because I never really cracked a book till my 20’s, but smart people who talk to me think I’m smart. I wonder how different I would test if I hadn’t grown up in a chaotic environment that discouraged education.

Can someone post another free iq test like this to take?