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Top universities in the world now
(The number of Fields medal + Nobel prize per population, my subjective thought on research output)

Princeton(+IAS)
Harvard, Caltech
Stanford, MIT, UChicago, Columbia, UC Berkeley

>> No.10273485

>>10273478
>berkeley
always feels good to be included, thanks op :)

>> No.10273489
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>don't attend any of these schools
what's the fucking point of it all

>> No.10273529
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> UCLA not on list

"Chupame la polla, puto" -- PLAVTVS PI

I'm Terence Tao, the Mozart of maths.

>> No.10273533

>>10273529
He graduated Princeton. Had he researched his own predominant works at UCLA? (I'm really curious)

>> No.10273668

>>10273478
>going to an amerifat uni
do you enjoy getting scammed?

>> No.10273676

>>10273489
You don't want to attend those schools. You would be IQ mogged by the janitor and then you'd feel horrible and drop out.

>> No.10273684

By the time a person wins most of these medal, they are not that productive anymore. Their best work is already done and their best students have already been mentored. And their groups are probably not the best anymore. You are basically chasing the past not the present.
The Fields Medal might be an exception.

>> No.10273686

>>10273489
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

>> No.10273695

>>10273489

This >>10273676 but unironically. Some of the courses at these schools are run specifically to attempt to grind you into the dust. It's entirely possible to have a good career and make meaningful contributions without subjecting yourself to that.

You're better off going somewhere with a good research output in your area of interest regardless of total ranking, and learning how to educate yourself.

>> No.10273835

>>10273478
> only US universities
> not Cambridge
> not ENS

>> No.10274167

>>10273478
Cambridge is better than every uni you posted bar harvard

>> No.10274192

>>10274167
>British delusion
lol

>> No.10274211

>>10274192
>amerimutts

>> No.10274241

>>10273676
Kek, just like in Good Will Hunting.
Who else saw that movie?

>> No.10274248

>>10273478
I spent the summer working at Princeton as a grad student researcher. It's highly overrated. They do have tons of money available for your PI to use, but it's really not significantly different from any other wealthy liberal arts school, they can just afford to pull people from all over the world to work there. Definitely some great people there, but really not significantly different from the state school I work for during the majority of the year.

>> No.10274249

>>10273686
Is this from MoG?

>> No.10275286

>>10273695
> +1
When applying for jobs in academia, your publication is the most important thing. Also, your PhD supervisor matters more than the institution(s) at which you studied.

>> No.10275533

>>10274241
I don't usually say this, but anon you're sounding like a newfag

>> No.10275534

>>10274249
>Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy
Some version of Matthew 6:19–20

>> No.10275538

>>10275286
>Also, your PhD supervisor matters more than the institution(s) at which you studied.
So go to a good institution for a good PhD advisor?

>> No.10276554
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>mfw within the next decades western universities will be more and more outclassed by Chinese institutions, and China will take the lead in most, if not all, fields of science and technology.

And no, I'm not Chinese.

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>>10273529
> UCLA
>>10273485
>UC Berkeley

>> No.10276937

Swarthmore College

>> No.10277279

>>10276554
can't tell if chinese government shill or just retarded

>> No.10277319

>>10273695
People will hit walls no matter where they go, better an Ivy than somewhere else. Friendo took multivariable at Harvard for a summer and the prof told him that professors need to write a letter to a dean to justify a student getting a C or below. Another one goes to Stanford and even though the classes are hard, the grade inflation is real.

>> No.10277413

>>10273478
ENS ULM

>> No.10277423
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>>10276581
seething privie

>> No.10277534

>>10277279
>an ambitious and clear global strategy up to 2049
>investing about 1,000 billion $ in AI alone over the next 20 or so years
>thousands of Chinese students and researchers visiting the (at present) best universities in the west and bringing their knowledge and skills when they return home
>huge investments in infrastructure both in China and abroad (Sri Lanka, Africa, Pakistan, parts of Europe), on a scale the like of which the world has never seen

And that's just a fraction of China is up to at the moment.

I am not a Chinese government shill, all I'm saying is that the West better stop debating transgender toilets and get it together, otherwise the western countries will be not much more than museums by the middle of the century.

Things being as they are, my money is on the Chinese, like it or not.

Let's see if you will call me retarded in 2049.

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*a challenger to the anglo dominance appears*

>> No.10278033

>>10275534
Oh, i guess N. mustve been refering to the bible a lot, just thinking of the first page in the preface or introduction in MG

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>>10273485
>Berkeley
Damn straight, we own this board. /Cal/ math general when?

>>10276581
Flyover State U faggot detected, that or daddy paid for you to study film at USC.

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>>10278104

Any university that would keep this woman on faculty is a disgrace.

>> No.10278141

>>10278117
She's pretty hot considering her age, better her than that chink thief zhang at the (((MIT-Harvard))) whore institute

>> No.10278954

>>10278117
What's wrong with doudna ?

>> No.10278987

>>10276554
The problem is right now many of the smartest international students—Chinese or otherwise—go to America to study, which both boosts the research output and prestige of American universities while simultaneously draining foreign universities of talent, reducing their yield rates, and making them look worse and worse compared to American universities. Even if China suddenly became the largest producer of talent in the world, all it would mean is that US universities would have more Chinese students. For Chinese institutions to rise in research output, they need to realize that there really isn't a meaningful difference between a 0.5 percentile score and a 1 percentile score, at least not as much as the difference between someone who's entire personality has been sculpted towards the test vs someone who is naturally inquisitive about things with no obvious immediate value. While it keeps using the current system, however, Chinese students who get into top universities will have the qualities of a top students, but will be unlikely to have the qualities necessary to be a top researcher.

>> No.10278992

>>10278987
True, I've noticed that they are good research labor. Their submissive nature makes them easy to boss around and they won't talk back as much. Basically you can get 60+ hours/week out of them without protest.

>> No.10280392

>>10278954

She married a grad student from her lab, it's a huge scandal. Basically like a teacher dating a student. It's a little hilarious though, her husband took her last name and she didn't take his.