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>>10268452

>>10268452

It's probably because they aren't interested in grooming.

>>10268452
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Because they don't have sex.
Sex is the death of the mind, body and soul.
When you are lucky enough to be born ugly, unlike your handsome peers, you can focus on studying, learning and developing your mind, in the early period of your life.
Of course at some point you will get laid. Either you will find some ugly chick, or become rich enough that looks don't matter.
This also explains the burnout effect, and why it is a common myth that you need to succeed in STEM while you are young.
While there is some apparent truth, the causality is completely wrong. It is because of sex. When STEMs grow older they inevitably become sexually active and their brainpower diminshes.
This is why we volcels will reign supreme in the end.
And btw I am not joking or talking out of my ass here.
This is not a belief but a fact, which I have painfully discovered through long experimentation on myself.

>>10268452
He's tall and has a good facial structure. All he needs to do is get a decent hair cut and hit the gym.

>>10268466
>This is not a belief but a fact, which I have painfully discovered through long experimentation on myself.

>sample size of one, calls it a fact

What OP says might be true on average but dont apply to me (engineer) and in my class at least most are not outright ugly. Myself im pretty good looking (to support this I have no problem at all getting matches on tinder and women often are the first to initiate conversation).

Maybe its more common among those that study math/physics.

My explenation for those are that they all through school years noticed they had trouble with girls and social settings in general and focused more on homework and reading/videogames instead (escapism).

>>10268452
I dunno what you mean. High IQ is correlated with good looks. The unattractive nerd trope is not based in reality.

>>10268452
>yesterdays bait
I hope you get more that ten replies this time troll.

>>10268523
>black color scheme

>>10268452
>The vast majority of people aren't involved in STEM.
>The amount of people who are considered very good looking is low.
>The amount of average/weird/ugly people is high.

The probability that people in any given profession that is unrelated to a person's outward appearance and has a relatively small pool of people being good looking is lower people who look average/ugly.

>>10268452
Dude isn't ugly, buy him good clothes, a good haircut, make him go to the gym, you can easily make him a 7/10.
I guess most STEMs are introverts, and lack of social relations to people that like to take care of their appearance, I know that was the case for me until I met a friend that made me want to change that.

>>10268466
You can't seriously study/work in the field of science, and say something that ridiculous.
Learn to find some obvious links rather than base yourself on borderline religious beliefs.

>>10268452
Because Hollywood and media are jealous, they pictured sciences-oriented as ugly (they can't have a brain and a nice face)

>>10268632
The only person in this thread that’s not a brainlet. Probably of being attractive = low. Probably of being STEM = low. Thus, probability of both together is much lower.

>>10268466
Bullshit
t. Physics student who has sex on regular basis

>>10271361
Anecdotes are subhuman unless you think nobody would lie on 4chan

>>10271371
Well, to quote the post I replied to,
>a fact, which I have painfully discovered through long experimentation on myself.
This is as much an anecdote as mine is, and I'm not the one making claims

I'm pretty sure the most based is the attractive stem which can be achieved by:

>grow up as a pariah. You were either fat, ugly or both as a kid. Therefore, you are forced to become more intelligent in order to gain self worth
>in your teens you become a gymcel but still study since you're still not quite there yet aesthetically
>in your mid 20's you look like a chad but stilla sperg around other people (especially women) due to years of being bullied due t oyour appearance and as such, are still a social outcast
>However, your new employers won't know that and if you fake some charisma, you'll be that smart, STEM chad who has no distractions from his studying since he as been rejected by people too much in the past

There we go, you get a chad looking, jacked and studious person, basically the ideal fintech employee

>>10268452
Lmao at the coping cucks claiming this guy can be attractive if he takes care of himself lol.

1) he has terrible thin hair and is probably hidding a receding hairline. He will probably be nw4 in a few years. He would need to spend hours everyday to properly style his hair.

2) his forehead has the shape of an egg. He is hiding it with that pathethic hair at the front, even if he manages to fix hair, he would show his terrible forehead.

3) terrible eyebrows. Too curvy.

4) his eye area is a joke: too much upper eye lid exposure and negative canthalt tilt. Drug addict eyelashes and the "No soul" stare. Not even squinting can improve this eye area

Just notice how even he knows and no longer gives a fuck by wearing that piece of shit nerd glasses which by themselves are a death sentence.

5) JFL at that nose. Asymmetric and bulbous tip. He needs a rhinoplasty asap.

6) from a fucking front view and with his mouth closed I can tell this motherfucker has dental crowding in his inferior arch 95% sure.

7) no cheekbones

8) bellow average jawline when he doesn't even look fat. If you are not fat you should have a defined jawline.

9) just look at his stare, this guy is already fucked in the head due to his looks. He will never be nt. He will always look like a no soul indian tech petrol engineer on his photos.

And this is just judging by a front pic, when you really can appreciate subhumanity is with lateral pics (he probably has a lot more flaws I cant tell with a front pic).

>>10268466
I legitimately thought I was on r9k for a second

>>10271117
With good genetics (associated with high intelligence) and youth, the probability of being attractive should theoretically increase dramatically. You'd think STEMs would at least be closer to average, if not on the upper end of attraction. Does it just come down to grooming and introversion?

>>10273403
>Does it just come down to grooming and introversion?

GOD. STOP COPING. GROOMING HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING ATTRACTIVE. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MAXILLA, JAWLINE, EYE AREA AND NORWOOD SCALE.

GUY IN PIC WOULD STILL BE ATTRACTIVE IF HE WAS UNDERWEIGHT AND DIDNT TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF/GROOMED.

MEANWHILE, OP'S PIC GUY CAN GET THE TRENDIEST HAIRCUT HE CAN FIND, TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF AND WEAR NICE CLOTHES, HE WILL STILL BE A UGLY MOTHERFUCKER

>>10273422
objectively untrue, anon. I've personally gone up noticeably in attraction with grooming, fashion and hairstyling. it's not the end-all but much of attraction is up to you

>>10273425
>I've personally gone up noticeably in attraction with grooming, fashion and hairstyling

YOU CAN GAIN A FEW POINTS, BUT THE THING IS THAT ALL THE GROOMING, FASHION AND HAIRSTYLING IN THE WORLD WONT COMPENSATE TERRIBLE FACIAL FEATURES SUCH AS A RECESSED MAXILLA (SEE PIC).

BUT OF COURSE SOCIETY WANTS UGLY PEOPLE TO THINK THEY HAVE A CHANCE AT ATTRACTIVE WHEN 95% OF IT IS OUTSIDE YOUR CONTROL.

>>10273439
A CHANGE OF BEING ATTRACTIVE*

>>10273439
I went up 3-4 points from taking care of myself. It's not an insiginificant amount

>>10268452

>>10268466

Haters gonna hate, but this is likely true. People who have sex, have weaker incentives to be innovative and train their minds. The time normies spend socializing, unattractive people spend on training their minds with the hope of becoming socially dominant this way one day (which is, of course, often a pipe dream).

IQ is only weakly correlated with attractiveness, so there are lots of smart unattractive people who then fill up all of STEM.

Drive for status is regulated by testosterone and testosterone is highest in low status individuals. Once people marry, their T level drops and their career suffers as a consequence.

http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/jrp2003.pdf

>>10268457
>Thinks gender gap is acceptable
This is true, as long as gender discrepancies aren't artificially enforced. Woman are generally less interested in science than men. This is simply a fact.

>>10273439
He could grow a beard.

>>10273465
>Status

19th century called and wants their admiral rankings back. Meanwhile, it's 2019, status has mostly disappeared, which is a good thing.

>>10273465
>Once people marry, their T level drops and their career suffers as a consequence.
this is true for me. i used to have career ambitions but not so much now. and i gained a lot of weight as well.

>>10273422
>MAXILLA, JAWLINE, EYE AREA
Which of these are obtainable by surgery?

>>10268466
I am a solid 2/10 manlet who's 24 yo never had a relationship. I'm not even into STEM. I was behind all my peers in terms of brain development. No, I'm not autistic or retarded, just was slower to get things than literally everyone my age, probably even 2 years younger. Got these rearded genes from my dad. I have no idea how, my mom's side are tall, pretty and smart, like literally all of them have phd level intellect. I have no idea how my dad made it, he was 34 when I was born.

>>10273382
Top lmao. You must be quite well established in the copecel research community.

>>10273403
Intelligence is overrated in stem. Sure there are some geniuses like Galois or Ramanujan, but most people are not geniuses. For most people in stem, it just comes down to how much time they spend studying. The people who do the best are not the ones with good genetics, rather it's people who have nothing else they want to do. Think about it, why would an unattractive person bother going to parties or clubbing. For attractive people it's fun, but not for unattractive people. So unattractive people would rather do something else with their time. This leads to more time focusing on study instead, which leads to them succeeding. Also this same stuff is important to why attractive people don't study stem at all. For them being social is rewarding, so they aren't willing to devote the time necessary for deep subjects like stem.