/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10261324
The only reason I hate you guys is jannies taking three weeks to delete these threads.
You have great taste tho, feel free to stay and bully me more while posting Nagatoro. If it helps, I'm an economist, have no friends, am a handholdless virgin, my hobbies are watching anime, playing vidya, reading maths and shitposting here, and I think flat is justice.

>>10261324
>Computer Scientists
not scientists or mathematicians

>>10261347
Umm, sweetie, we study the SCIENCE of computers which involves a lot of MATHEMATICS.

>>10261374
I studied computer scince in college, I just didnt finsh. But yeah computer scince is a good job.

If you guys want to catch up to us jsut watch chilli

https://youtu.be/PwuIEMUFUnQ

>>10261399
assmad mathcuck

>>10261337
wwe can be friends rem!

>>10261419
What our doing snot impressive, and most of your jobs are being outsourced to India.

>>10261425
I'll try, but I don't really know how to be friends.

>>10261433
me neither! i just occasionally send people autistic stuff related to math, philosophy, sociology or something and ramble a bit. they respond and i guess that is a good enough exchange. it works i think... i dont usually vent myself but im ok w listening to people vent about things

Guys if you want to learn to socialize get on VRchat,its going to be the best way. IT helped me. We just arnt surrended by people that talk in our society, thats what happens when you segregate yourself from the normies that do nothing but talk.
Use it or lose it, and it applies to talking as well.

>>10261446
Woah, I do basically the same.
Check this out.
Sending people math things is usually awkward tbqh.

Ill tel you what my English Professor told us about being social.
You have to participate in writing You always need to get better English, that is why you guys are not social, you worry to much about math.

>>10261472
wwtf is that story there? it looks like a guy that is very bad at killing himself. also i guess it is awkward unless both of u r really autistic. a lot of the times the stuff i send like this one guy is more on the side of metaphysics.

>>10261487
>it looks like a guy that is very bad at killing himself
No, it's exactly the opposite. That sort of accident in a suicide should by all means be extremely commonplace. The surreal part is that it isn't.
It's strangely interesting.

Anyhow, that sort of thing isn't actually as weird to send to people. Men usually find it funny in a sort of surreal way. Women....
I've dropped metaphysics for a while, anything you've recently found that's interesting?

>>10261497
>That sort of accident in a suicide should by all means be extremely commonplace
why would it be commonplace?

hmm, one thing that is still fresh in my memory is langan's attempt at newcomb's paradox.

a casual summary of the gist of what he was trying to achieve lays here:

https://www.slideshare.net/RobertChowdhryJohn/christopher-michael-langan-the-art-of-knowing-expositions-on-free-will-and-selected-essays

he talks more seriously about it here:
http://megasociety.org/noesis/44/index.html

there's actually quite a bit of interesting problems in epistemology. another one is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty_problem

1/2 chance or 1/3?

>>10261518
Why wouldn't it be commonplace? Killing a person is hard by itself, killing yourself should produce even more common failures.
...the Langan text loads up really weird for me, so I can't really read it.

The sleeping beauty seems to be a problem that tries to trick you into thinking it's a conditional probability problem, but sleeping beauty can't track any difference at all between the two results, so the only solution seems to be that she predicts the coin behaves normally and says 1/2
Sure, responding Tails makes her statistically right more often, but this is a degree of belief situation.

>>10261545
>the Langan text loads up really weird for me, so I can't really read it.
which one? the slideshare one? i think the more serious text might load a bit better, but it is far less intelligible (id be lying if i said i got all of it). it is an interesting because it leads up to some starting point of his ctmu. i recall in the slideshare him mentioning that since the universe is self-contained, its rules for self-organization must be selected internally. that + his generalized description of how the universe evolves is what langan refers to as god

>but sleeping beauty can't track any difference at all between the two results, so the only solution seems to be that she predicts the coin behaves normally and says 1/2

thats how i interpreted it too. though it is still an unsolved problem so im not sure if it is that simple. a friend of mine said the days are the same experience so they collapse so it is 1/2

>>10261324
Computer "Science"

>>10261572
I opened that one, but I'm not in a good environment to read that shit.

I get the impression it's also a problem that masks its simplicity. It feels complex, but I doubt it actually is.
>unsolved problem in game theory
That's usually code for "the solution's there, but we don't have consensus".
Like probability.

>>10261604
basically. for the newcomb's one, the obvious answer is to NOT map out the problem as though it is a game, and instead realize that Newcomb's Demon is going to guess your choice right so you should always go for the 1 mil

>>10261638
That's pretty obvious tbqhwyf.

>>10261651
yeah it is, though people have still argued about it. langan creates a really complicated model theoratic justification that leads to the ctmu

>>10261324
Behold the power of a computer science degree.

>>10261324
>We are paid lots of money for being useless retards. That's why you hate us.
You got it in one.

>>10261374
>we study the SCIENCE of computers which involves a lot of MATHEMATICS
>But if we're confronted by real science and real math, as in physics, we piss ourselves and hide under the bed. Vote Hillary 2019!

>>10261709
>>10261755
>>10261758
Samefag losers. Enjoy getting your phd and making less money than me.

>>10261709
Fair point. The fact that you are able to post pictures from your phone is thanks to computer science.

>>10261324
>this kills the cs major

>>10262608
>CS majors don't do basic calculus and linalg
to which retarded uni do you go to?

>>10262627
MIT

>>10262627
>take * =/= good at *

Computer science majors have no love for their craft. It feels so souless and devoid of meaning. I don't dislike csfags as much as I fear them. They have no sense of belonging in this world, they slave away every day hoping to make more money, and for what? So they can get a fancy car to fill the void in their hearts left after years of doing somthing they hate. I have never met a cs graduate happy after 3 years of post graduation.

>>10262608
yea your first-year undergrad math isn't all that impressive - stop projecting your intellectual disabilities, retard.

>>10261545
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty_problem

This strikes me as barely being a problem. If we consider the chances of the coin toss as an event being H or T, this is always going to be 50:50. If we consider the event of the Beauty waking and considering the likelihood of her being wakened because the coin toss being either H or T, then clearly she's two times more likely to be woken by a tails than a head. There, as far as I can tell this solves the issue and I have no idea why this is a serious matter of debate.

The question "What is your credence now for the proposition that the coin landed heads?" is just fucking ambiguous since it's unclear how the response will be 'valued'.

>>10262727
cs is only fun if you're planning to make your own business. However, you might as well have just picked something business related and taken some technical minor/double major

>>10262627
Have to do it at my University, this was my last semester.
I still have to do calc 2, linear algebra,
and, statistics
If I want a minor in math then calc 3 as well.
If I want to do anything special like geo spatial data then it's alot more math

>>10262591
*Computer engineers

>>10264340
>implying cs majors don't fail calculus multiple times

>>10261324
>gayputer gayentists
Such a sad little brainlet!

>>10261472
These suicides have been (((reported))), but I guess being shot in the back of the head 3 times counts as suicide in your book. Retard.

>avatarfags

>>10261430
At least we have jobs.

>>10262717
>hurr durr there is this one stupid guy from this specific group and therefore this specific group is dumb
Is this the power of /sci/?

>>10261324
Sci hates computer science because they hate money.

>>10261337
Based on your description, you seem very similar to me, but I'm too retarded for maths. Can you give me some advice or recommend any books?

>>10265672
Three is the ideal number of subjects to read concurrently. 4 works. Any more and you start to get lost.
Grillet's Abstract Algebra is absolutely based.
Reading and rereading after a couple weeks works marvelously for long term memory.
Answering stuff on /sqt/ and /mg/ is my second cheat code for long term memorization.
Euclidean geometry is quintessential fun.
Everyone starts out sucking at number theory, and only a few get better.

>>10261324
>we make more money than you
Not me, I went for a PhD so I get less than an assistant manager at McDonalds for the next few years.

>>10265335
Go to any calculus thread on /g/ or speak to any group of cs majors. It's common as fuck for them to suck at calculus.

>>10265743
>implying /g/ is not mostly a consumerism shit hole

why do you think we hate engineers too?

Once the recession hits all CS people will be jobless. It's the next bubble.

>>10265782
everyone hates engineers because they're gay. and everyone hates gays. even gays. (self-hating)

>>10265303
Implying that Pepe isn't an avatar

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>>10265303
anime website

>>10261324
I'm on CS and I hate you because you are the cancer that is killing field.
You have no passion for it and do it just for money.

Also, when you hit 30, you'll just out of the window your code monkey office after doing same boring shit you are not even interested in for years and years with no end.

>>10261460
VRChat is fun.

>>10261324
Some pure math accomplishment tiers are at the same level than extending the fictional klingon language or creating a economic and agricultural plan for king Aragorns government of the fictional middle earth.

Just because is "hard" and "make sense" doesn't make it good.
You can build arbitrary hard games or set of rules from were you can exctract a sense of accomplishment.

I don't understand why /sci/ suck so much pure math dick.

>>10265775
It's were you belong so get back to the >>>/g/hetto

>>10266005
>doesn't know that every area of pure math has ended up having mass applications

>>10261337
ehhh? you studied a dudebro major and you're in a dudebro job but you're still a virgin? That's really bad you know...

/sci/ doesn't care about money.
Most people here are content with being poor if it means they'll succeed academically

Computer scientist can suck it. I have a degree in physics and work at federally funded observatory. I make 122k a year and have government funded research grants at the age of 24. Is your job as satisfying as stsring at stars?

>>10265743
>implying /g/ are computer scientists
wew

>>10270313
>Is your job as satisfying as stsring at stars?
lol that sounds boring as fuck

>>10261324
No shit we're mad.

We physics majors do 10 times the work, acquire a PhD, and then can only work at burger king because there is so little jobs. Meanwhile you CSfags get a bachelors degree, barely study, and make 100k starting.

>>10264772
Ya i dont get it. Its 50/50. What

>>10270349
If physicists are so smart, then why did they become physicists? Memes aside, shouldn't you be able to at least get a cs or finance job?

>>10261324
>he admits his field is intellectually inferior
C'mon, at least try.

>>10270429
>thinking a job in cs or finance is more respectable than a job at burger king

>>10265013
Major brainlet cope in progress