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Why is it so hard for attractive STEM women to gain respect for their intellectual abilities? How can this be changed?

>> No.10254264

>>10254256
It's not though?

>> No.10254270
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>>10254256
oh i don't know

>> No.10254275

>>10254256
because attractive women dont go into stem

>> No.10254317

unironically most women are just not made for STEM

>> No.10254360

>>10254270
>needing one computer for each
Its like she doesnt know how to open different programmes so just has them permanently open on each one.

>> No.10254361

Typical instagram bullshit

>> No.10254363

>>10254360
No, brainlet, she's whoring for attention

>> No.10254374

>>10254363
That goes without saying, shes a woman, but the disrespect she shows anyone who reads her posts is the worst part of it.

>> No.10254383

Cannot stand these women who dress like thots to do a presentation/talk. It sends conflicting messages.

Also, I remember the Prof being very clear, telling us (but mostly them) that they shouldn't dress to attract attention away from the talk.

>> No.10254390

>>10254256
Throughout my degree I have never known an attractive girl to be beyond average in the subject matter.

>> No.10254421

James Clerk Maxwell (the great physicist and poet) knew what was up:

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/lectures-to-women-on-physical-science/

>> No.10254515

>>10254256
It's not. People readily judge others based on stereotypes when there is no other information, but these opinions are quickly overwritten when there is. I grew up poor and talked/dress urban until about 19 and people in school always assumed I was close to retarded given the way they would talk to me at first. This rarely lasted for the first day after working on something together. It sucks that people prejudge you, but it's pretty understandable why they do it and you can easily shed stereotypes if you don't in fact conform to them.

>> No.10254531

>>10254256
It's not that attractive women are incapable of doing STEM. There is nothing inherent about them. In fact, attractive women will tend to have better genetics.
What it is is that most people tend to choose the path of least resistance. If you look like OP's pic, you will be able to market your pussy at least until you're 30 for an upper middle class lifestyle even if you have no personality or other use. If you do, you might even make it higher.
Also, since attractive women suffer from less neuroses compared to your average feminist, because they have a more positive experience with other humans, they tend not to have anything to prove. They're mostly happy the way they are. Why do a tough degree when the endgame can be had with just your looks?

>> No.10254547

>>10254531
>Why do a tough degree when the endgame can be had with just your looks?
Because that isn't the end game for a lot of people.

>> No.10254557

>>10254547
what women do you know whose endgame is anything other than a comfy life or a family? Having deeper thoughts about the pursuit of knowledge or societal improvement is alien to them unless they have a female manifestation of autism. At best the will voice their approval of such feelings to virtue signal, but they never truly believe in them like a man does.

>> No.10254587

>>10254557
>what women do you know whose endgame is anything other than a comfy life or a family?
Confirmed only woman you know is your mother.

>> No.10254607

>>10254547
>for a lot of people
That's true, but I addressed that. The reasons for people having different endgames has a lot to do with their childhood experiences. Those, of course, are also shaped by being attractive.

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>>10254587
We were talking about [math]attractive[/math] women. Almost none of what we are discussing applies even to average looking women, much less fat slobs like Anon's mom.

>> No.10254618

>>10254547
Let me ask you this, then, Sir White Knight:
If you could do nothing other than fuck someone once a month and never have to think about food, shelter, or medical care, and have enough leisure time to indulge whatever your "endgame" was, would you do it?
Even if you were absolutely committed to the pursuit of knowledge, there is no reason you couldn't do that as a housewife.
Therefore, unless you are not absolutely committed to the pursuit of knowledge, and your commitment is to prove that you can do something other than your stereotype, then fine. But why have that endgame? What damage in childhood pushed this?

>> No.10254622

on my STEM university about 70% of students are female. Granted I live in Europe and not in the US and we don't have affirmative action here.

But women tend to have higher education and overrepresented in university in every single field.

In fact it's become a huge societal problem were more women than men graduate school and experts are looking at why this is the case. There are a lot of problems because women don't date down and there is a shortage of educated men to date these women.

Netherlands BTW. My girlfriend is a psychiatrist with a specialization on education systems and it's staggering how big the gap is between male and female academic performance. There is also an IQ gap

Many experts are calling for affirmative action to make it easier for men to get into university to try and fix this. I know that this is also true for many other EU countries and also places like Iran.

It results in a lot of uneducated men being very frustrated as there is a shortage of women in this social bracket causing many of these to become right wing "incels" while the top of society being overrepresented by women means that these men have easy pickings and therefor women have a hard time holding a man down which results in a lower birthrate.

My girlfriend personally thinks that the drop in global birthrates has to do with the falling male academic performance and being outcompeted by women on the job market causing a mismatch in supply and demand between romantic partners in different social segments of society which leads to a plummeting birth rate.

How do we fix stuff so that men actually finish their education and aren't 55% barely passing students? Probably the biggest problem western civilization faces right now.

>> No.10254631

>>10254622
It's been almost 20 years since women started being the majority in graduate schools in the US. However, again, we were talking about attractive women, not women in general.

>> No.10254637

>>10254622
nice bait, anon. I'll bite.

In the UK, slightly more women attend university than men, but they are overwhelmingly studying meme subjects made up because women are so indecisive and immature that they can't go into the real world straight after leaving school. The men are still the ones studying the subjects that matter.

>> No.10254645

>>10254631
In the Netherlands the higher the form of education the more attractive the women so I didn't know this.

Maybe the difference is that we have been a very egalitarian society for a long time. For example I've never paid for first dates in my life and my girlfriend pays for most stuff as she makes more money than me. This is very normal here as there is true equality between the sexes women here also make on average 2% more than men so there is no "wage gap" or glass ceiling.

As a result there is also no SJW or PC culture which is usually the "unattractive" university type in the US.

Here you see the opposite highly educated women tend to care more about their appearance to look more profesional while the lower educated ones tend to look like british slags and tend to be fatter as they don't put so much focus on appearance to have an edge over their peers as they are likely unemployed or in some manual labor anyway.

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The kinds of ideas being put forward in this thread are the kinds of things I'd only expect to hear IRL from antisocial males who can't empathise with women.

>> No.10254668

>>10254622
>In fact it's become a huge societal problem were more women than men graduate school and experts are looking at why this is the case
Most women earn degrees that are worth next to nothing, prove next to nothing about their ability (which is utterly mediocre or worse, as evidenced by their chosen field), and that were created for the sole purpose of brushing up on the statistics.

>There is also an IQ gap
That gap works in favor of males, because only giftedness matters in academia - having a larger pool of average women than average men is of no use to anybody.
>Many experts are calling for affirmative action to make it easier for men to get into university to try and fix this.
There is no problem to "fix" in the first place, except maybe the scrapping of "colleges" (i.e. schools that formerly used to be called "vocational schools" or "technical colleges") that produce nothing but mediocrities whose only career options lie within the increasingly bloated public sector.
>while the top of society being overrepresented by women means that these men have easy pickings and therefor women have a hard time holding a man down which results in a lower birthrate.
The top of society is not overrepresented by women. In saying this, I assume that an academically educated kindergarten teacher or primary school teacher is as talentless as the average electrician - which they are.
>My girlfriend personally thinks that the drop in global birthrates has to do with the falling male academic performance
Males outperform women in every field that matters in the slightest.
>and being outcompeted by women on the job market
Men don´t usually become nurses, primary school teachers or two-bit bureaucrats, unlike women.

cont.

>> No.10254678

>>10254622
> causing a mismatch in supply and demand between romantic partners in different social segments of society which leads to a plummeting birth rate.
There is no mismatch in supply and demand of educated partners - and, I stress this point once again, a primary school teacher is only "educated" on paper and according to her own delusions of grandeur. Not every "educated" woman deserves an educated man.

>How do we fix stuff so that men actually finish their education and aren't 55% barely passing students?
The only thing that needs fixing is the attitude held by women who attain worthless "university" degrees.

Men have, are and will continue to dominate the most sought-after positions in academia, government, and the private sector, because they are overrepresented by a factor of 6 to 1 at an IQ of 130, and the gap grows exponentially after that.

>> No.10254691

>>10254645
>Here you see the opposite highly educated women tend to care more about their appearance
Educated women of any nationality do that, anon.
>>10254662
>empathise with women
Why should a modern-day western male be empathetic towards women? Women are the choosing sex, while men are practically disposable, and modern western society actively works to increase the favors directed towards women, while leaving men to fend for themselves - as they´ve always had to do. Were you not a fucking ignoramus, you would know these basic anthropological facts.

A weak, ugly, dumb man runs a large risk of never mating, and thus not continuing his genetic lineage; the same need to compete for passing on one´s genes does not apply to women.

>> No.10254705

>>10254691
You are wrong. It's still a large numbers game and we are all individuals and nobody owes us anything.

Appearance, intelligence and even personality barely matters more than exposure. The amount of women you interact with is the best indicator of your reproduction chance.

The hottest guy on the planet talking only to 1 woman a year or Danny devito look-alike coming into contact with 1000 women a year would have a higher chance of reproduction.

This is also why "incels" don't exist. They are choosing to be alone by not increasing their exposure to women.

Women are individuals and just like men they have extremely divergent taste in men. It's a meme that they all want the same type of men just like not all men want the same type of women. Increase the exposure and no matter what kind of dude you are you WILL be romantically successful.

I know this is 4chan and thus asocial men are overrepresented but this is also /sci/ so I espect people here to know better than to believe in pseudo science like thinking it's hard to get laid in 2018 even by the lowest quality of men.

>> No.10254721

>>10254668
Women are overrepresented in every single academic track here. Both STEM and liberal arts. Men are the minority in every single one of them and will be in other western countries within 5-10 years as well depending on when they became egalitarian.

All your other points are plainly just false for at least my country. This is a very big problem here and there are dating services for educated women were men sign up for free but women have to pay because there are 4 women with a master degree to every 1 man. And 2 to 1 in STEM.

>> No.10254739

>>10254705
>It's a meme that they all want the same type of men just like not all men want the same type of women
The women I'm most attracted to are suspiciously similar to the women other people tell me they're most attracted to.

>> No.10254745

>>10254256
Because most of them cash in on their looks to get ahead of spergs who merely work hard and are competent.

>> No.10254782

>>10254691
>Women are the choosing sex, while men are practically disposable
You would see how much of a gross oversimplification this is if you could empathize with women more. If you understood them more you wouldn't be so afraid of the competition, since at least then you would know the rules

>> No.10254788

>>10254782
You would see the benefit of making specific claims instead of declaring people that disagree with you just don't understand if you weren't such a faggot.

>> No.10254865

>>10254270
cringed

>> No.10254869

>>10254622
Which university is this? Because in Utrecht the gap is 70% male - 30% female.

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>>10254270

>> No.10254876

>>10254256
Attractive women prefer business.
STEM is ugly.

>> No.10254883

>>10254871
Not white so it's actually impressive.

>> No.10254901

>>10254622
>There are a lot of problems because women don't date down and there is a shortage of educated men to date these women.
it sounds like women should get their heads out of their asses and "date down"

>> No.10254906

>>10254901
That's not biologically favourable and never was. For men it is but not women

>> No.10254922

>>10254678
>because they are overrepresented by a factor of 6 to 1 at an IQ of 130, and the gap grows exponentially after that.
> Not every "educated" woman deserves an educated man.
These two points are the crux of it.

>> No.10254947

>>10254256
Its only hard for thotts, attractive women who are also intelligent, reasonable, and meritocratic have no issues.

>> No.10254960

>>10254622
Dutch women date down, but only if you're tall and handsome.

>> No.10254969

>>10254906
A shitload of species are monogamous, most of which even with larger females than males. Where does this idea of it being "unfavorable" come from?

>> No.10254993

>>10254960
they should get over it

>> No.10255034

>>10254960
Do they date up if your short and fugly?

>> No.10255066

>>10254721
Women are much, MUCH higher in agreeableness than men. Men may have higher IQs, almost every single person is a 100 "gifted" people will be male, but if you took the 100 most agreeable people you know every person in that 100 would be female.

Men can not stand sitting in a classroom all day listening to someone drone on, men can not spend all night gathering sources, setting up images and men certainly can not just shut up, listen and repeat what they hear for hours at a time.

In the UK, the government started shifting out standard testing in favour of a Pass/Merit/Distinction system because men were acing tests with minimal effort and women couldn't keep up, in the modern system women can repeat what they hear all day and men have lost all interest since there is no challenge and too much beauracracy.

>and will be in other western countries within 5-10 years as well depending on when they became egalitarian.

You even noted this yourself. Not until the system becomes "equalitarian", when unequal things become equal, can women compete with men.

>> No.10255093

>>10254383
this. A post-doc gave a talk last semester with tights/leggings and a tank top. I couldn't stop thinking about her thighs and ass and got super distracted anytime she made arm motions as her armpits were exposed. Like wtf be a little professional

>> No.10255096

>>10255034
No.

>> No.10255102

>>10254270
Why is she doing astrophysics on a laptop, be a based god and use paper and pencil... shes probably watchhing Neil DeGrasse Tyson

>> No.10255114

What is her basic message? She is basically flexing in front of millions of nerds, telling them, that she is a superior human being than them. How is it at all surprising that they will react negatively to it?

Imagine if this was a guy doing the same. Like, a 6'4 super handsome model tier guy who has an instagram and a twitter where he posts about how he is a 10/10 and how he is a genius. How would you react?

>> No.10255120

>>10255114
There's no irony in that.

>> No.10255130

>>10255120
No. Nerds take pride in being ugly. They don't claim to be ubermensche. I know that if you are a minority you are allowed more leeway when boasting but white women are not really a minority.

>> No.10255138

>>10255130
>only things I can explain my way should be funny and only for the reasons I say
You sound like a feminist reviewing a movie. I'm sorry that things aren't like that, but they are.

>> No.10255148

>>10254782
Treating the competition like competition is healthy and reasonable. There's no fear there.

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There are literally two kinds of women. 1) Those who are going about their business getting their work done and getting little credit for it 2) gigantic attention whores who manipulate men with the allure of sex to gain power and money

The problem is number 2.

>> No.10255179

>>10255114
I'd probably mire, but unlike a lot of /sci/ I do like Elon Musk.

>> No.10255212

>attractive stem women
Where do I find them?

>> No.10255216

>>10255212
In Europe just go to your uni and you'll see the women. In the US you probably need to go to california/portland and date some whale. In Eastern Europe STEM is almost entirely female because the men think school is "pussy" and do manual labor instead.

>> No.10255426

>>10255066
In my experience women tend to do better on tests than men, although this was in the humanities, so your mileage may vary

>> No.10255434

>>10255426
Also true in STEM from my personal experience. I am betting the thread was started by a troll or /pol/ faggot though.

It's not exactly a secret that women perform a lot better on tests than men even in STEM.

>> No.10255451

>>10255426
>>10255434
Women do better in school in general too. But in case you forgot, OP's pic was about attractive women.

>> No.10255463

>>10255451
Attractive women are just a segment of every women and aren't concentrated within dumb girls.

if there are more women that are highly educated in STEM then there are just as much attractive women in STEM as in any female demographic. In fact university going women tend to be more attractive because they are smart enough to lay off the cake and stay thin and take care of themselves as they have the long-term planning to not become fat.

>> No.10255467 [DELETED] 

>>10254270
holy cringe
thank fuck my sister (who’s studying physics) is right wing and doesn’t say retarded shit like this.

>> No.10255473 [DELETED] 

>>10254317
this desu and it’s not even sexist.

>> No.10255490

>>10255463
>there are just as much attractive women in STEM as in any female demographic
wew

>> No.10255528

>>10255451
Women are higher in agreeableness and will do well in school depsite lacking intelligence >>10255066

Most men, no matter how intelligent they are, despise the current schooling system. The genius who hates school is somewhat of a archtype now (although the antisocial aspect always existed).

>> No.10255533

>>10255434
>my personal experience
>/pol/ boogeyman
>baseless claim

Woah lass.

>> No.10255558

I know one PI in a top university who is incredibly hot, like seriously a 9.5/10.
Besides her, most female PIs I see are average or ugly looking. And now that more women are getting hired in these positions (thanks to politics and discrimination against men in hiring), we get to see more of these mediocre eyesores in STEM.

>> No.10255765

>>10254622
wtf there are literally 5 girls out of 140 people in my year

>> No.10255781

>>10255467
>muh right wing ebin democartic boogie oogie man
both left and right are fucking cringe and they both say dumb shit like that pic. Bet your sis spews mad retarded crap but its kewl because shes le epic right wing XD

>> No.10255997

>>10254622
Easy
Many women are pushed towards higher education by societal influences. All the advertising I've seen for higher education has been marketed towards women, the entire system is a feminized space. Hell, even in the math lab at my college the only posters on the wall are "Mathematics in everyday life" and shit about "Women in STEM"

Beyond that, as some anons have already pointed out, women overwhelmingly go into education fields which are highly competitive with relatively low pay rates. I believe this is because they're told higher education is the only way to have a stable life in the future, but they're largely only interested in things which don't pay quite well even with a college degree. The result is they think they have to go to school for something that's largely useless, and end up passing all their classes since they're easy as shit.

My final thought is that school classroom type environments are generally geared towards the style of learning women are more proficient at. I'm admittedly not studied enough on this subject to go too deep into it, but it breaks down to women being better than men at sitting down and just learning. Men, on the other hand, have evolved to be better at learning "on the go," and have difficulty just sitting and studying in the same way women do. This is especially evident in highschool, but it carries over to higher education in one way or another.

>Women are overrrepresented in university in every single field
I'd really like to see where exactly you're talking about, since to my knowledge STEM fields are generally 80-90%+ male dominated
>IQ gap
As far as I'm aware, men and women have the same average IQ, with women being more clustered around the mean and men being more diverse along a bell curve. That means there's more male retards, and also more male geniuses - the latter half being who you'd more often see on a college campus.

>> No.10256061

>>10254739
but that's not necessarily true though, is it anon? Some people like petite girls, some like amazonians, some like brapp hogs or milk trucks. you might think aryan women in wheat fields are the most attractive, while I may be more of a loli man myself.
There are universal objective standards of attraction (like a symmetrical face, for example), but what anon is trying to say is that the "chad thundercock" archetype isn't preferred by all women. some girls like cute white boys with blonde hair, while others want black nerds, and yes, others still want Jock Thundercock.

>> No.10256090

>>10256061
most people's preferences aren't strong to the point of conflicting with the general consensus of beauty (ahabs aren't people)

even if one guy likes athletic women with some muscle definition and another guy likes curves they're probably going to agree on whether a random woman is attractive or not regardless of their ideal. practically speaking what you think 10/10 is doesn't matter and past the point of fantasy to what we're willing to realistically accept people start agreeing.

>> No.10256119

>>10254531
THIS

>> No.10256131

>>10254622
>s
In every single European country, men outnumber women in academia.

>> No.10256160

>>10254270
>implying men dont attention whore like this all the time
there's an entire subreddit for this kind of shit now

>> No.10256162

>>10254383
>>10255093
>being so mentally weak you can't focus on the content at hand and just jerk off later at home

>> No.10256167

>>10254691
>Why should a modern-day western male be empathetic towards women?
Because they're a thinking feeling human bean like you and me.

>> No.10256306

>>10254871
Can someone explain the significance of this to me?

>> No.10256328

>>10254662
>from antisocial males who can't empathise with women.
Well, if you aren't a woman it would probably be difficult to empathise with one, unless you have gone through the same experiences.

You can certainly feel sympathy for them, though, if they are getting the raw end of the stick.
The problem is that when you are part of a group people are claiming have it easier than another group, and it isn't easy to switch sides, if they are actually experiencing anything different than you are.
Most men don't see women getting treated with any less respect in their workplaces, and while there are public cases there are public cases of men getting treated badly too.

>>10256306
Nothing. She did a load of bugfixes for half a year and then went on a crusade to properly const data structures for the next year and a half or more. People just looked at the latest commits and went
>hurr durr all she does is add const to variables, shes not a good programmer
and so on, but seeing it's only /g/'s opinion no one gives a shit. She has respect from the community that actually matters to her.

>> No.10256337

>>10254270
artificial intelligence indeed.

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Women don't have STEM brains and I am proof. I don't really care if you guys fuck with me for posting this, I'm just trying to give meaningful input from a reliable source to a meaningful board. I'm in my third year of my CS degree, and while I have a good GPA, I am still completely shit at programming and math. The guys in my class help me, never the girls, because they are equally retarded. And trust me, I know I'm shit at programming, because I cant even muster the courage to ask my professors for help because I worry they will judge me. I help girls in my C programming class, also have helped them in the past, and they all admit that they too are retarded. Because I can usually help them pretty efficiently I would say I am ever so SLIGHTLY less retarded, but I still suck. I am in calculus II right now and even my math teacher admitted he thought only guys were successful in math from his experience. That's unrelated but you get the picture, I'm not trying to preach sexism because it isn't sexism. The majority of the reason that I'm doing a STEM degree is because I have a bias to humanity students and other similar students because muh ego. I also genuinely like computers and computation, ever since I read the manual on my childhood DOS PC, but not so much in the way of programming. I figured after seeing a lot of these threads maybe I could give some reliable input. I can prove i'm a chick in STEM if need be, ask me anything.

>> No.10256343

>>10254270
more like on wednesdays (and every day) we make up dumbshit arbitrary reasons to display the products of companies that pay us tens of thousands of dollars in sponsorship deals.

>> No.10256350

>>10256328
/g/ doesn't know how to code. They're like the people who say "Fuck yeah I love science!" but for technology.

>> No.10256356

>>10256338
obvious male larper, but you are hitting on a valid point. women are shit at difficult things not because they're incapable or because "muh woman brain" but because they simply don't give a shit and don't really have to as there are always men willing to orbit.

I don't know a single person, male or female, who's genuinely good at coding without having a passion for it; nor do I know many programmers, male or female, who have a passion for it.

>> No.10256364

>>10254270
>getting mad when someone strikes up a conversation about your 2 computers

Imagine being this autistic.

>> No.10256386

>>10254531
>Also, since attractive women suffer from less neuroses compared to your average feminist, because they have a more positive experience with other humans, they tend not to have anything to prove.

This. The only girls I see in hard math & sciences are ugly masculine feminist women who believe they have something to prove by going into a male dominated field. Attractive women on the other hand aren't bitter and don't feel like they have anything to prove so they go into what feels natural (feminine majors) like Nursing, Teaching, Psychology, etc. I have literally never see a hot girl in engineering or CS, however the psychology and nursing departments at my college are full of 9s and 10s.

>> No.10256402

>>10256386
>I have literally never see a hot girl in engineering or CS

I have, but she had more problems than a PennyPress puzzle book and was a BPD hyperslut to boot. It stands that I've yet to meet an attractive and well-adjusted woman in a male dominated field.

>> No.10256405

>>10254557
>unless they have a female manifestation of autism
tl;dr you personally have autism and don't relate to women.

>> No.10256439

If it's not biology, chemistry, or maybe physics(rare) there will legit be a serious drought of attractive women. I had like 3 attractive girls in my stem classes this past semester and 1 had a bf, the other was some autistic internation student, and the last one I actually messed around with and I stopped after I found out she was seeing other dudes. Yikes.

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>>10255781
>XD

>> No.10256562

>>10256090
Well obviously there are absolutes. You could probably even pick out the most attractive guys in a crowd, just because we all know what type of features look good on a person. That doesn't mean you'll necessarily be attracted to curvy women with black hair if your type is petite blondes.

>> No.10256564

>>10254270
>those hashtags
how do we fix the modern woman?

>> No.10256568

Many species are monogamous but not humans.

>> No.10256569

>>10254256

>attractive woman
>STEM

This combo doesn't exist (except for in the fields of biology and chemistry)

>> No.10256572

>>10254256
gr8 b8 m8 8/8

>> No.10256670

>>10256569
Biology should not be considered STEM the same way psychology isn't.

>> No.10256771

In 4 years of uni I have not seen a single female Physics student that was higher than a 7. In fact I even noticed that the better looking girls there were usually mildly autistic. But you have to realise that my dataset is fairly limited by the fact that there are like 5 girls for every 50-70 guys in Physics courses.

>> No.10257085

>>10256771
In my class there were a couple of hot girls. One got average grades but the other one was top of the class.

>> No.10257094

>>10256771
In my experience the hotter the girl the better the grades as well. Probably because intelligence is highly correlated with wealth. And wealth is highly correlated with sexual success. So attractive girls are more likely to have rich intelligent daddies and trophy wife mothers resulting in some sort of ubermensch brilliant daughters that are also extremely attractive.

>> No.10257104

>>10255093
> as her armpits were exposed.
When I was a grad student, I taught In an amphitheater-style classroom, where the back of the classroom was about 20 ft. higher than the front.

About 3 rows back was a student with a short skirt and no panties. I had a nice view of her shaved pussy all lecture.

I lectured for 45 minutes with pussy in my face. Like a boss.

>> No.10257949

>>10257104
True hero right here

>> No.10257967

>>10256162
>being such a whore you can't just wear civilized clothing for an hour while you give a talk like a professional

>> No.10257995

>>10256670
Sadly, I believe it is standard to consider all "soft science" like sociology and psychology to be STEM.

>> No.10258001

because girls would rather get banged by chad than learn physics

invisible to chad uggos have no choice but to learn something practical so as to provide for themselves

>> No.10258006

>>10254515
Kek

>> No.10258050

>>10257104
she was clearly dtf you personally

did you tap that?

>> No.10258071

>>10255216
>In Eastern Europe STEM is almost entirely female because the men think school is "pussy" and do manual labor instead.
What

>> No.10258236

>>10257995
>sociology and psychology
1. Science
2, technology
3. engineering
4. mathematics
5. none of the above

>> No.10258247

>>10258236
look, I'm strictly math. I fucking hate sociology and psychology and even engineers. All of them are gay, stupid fake dummies. Math is the only good subject.
However, unfortunately, technically psychology and sociology are science. I hate to tell you this bro and I wish it wasn't true.

>> No.10258254

>>10258247
Psychology and (especially) sociology are social sciences as opposed to physical sciences.

>> No.10258257

>>10258247
>i hate other fields of study
it's all important bro what the heck

>> No.10258264

>>10258254
OK but they're both science. Psychology and sociology use the scientific method.
>>10258257
looks like my superiority has ruffled some feathers. Don't worry I'm sure whatever bro major for brainlets you chose will get you a great job. Probably applied math lol brainlet

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>>10254622
>Little incentives make a big difference
Liberal western countries that have tried to correct the gender gap in prestigious highly technical jobs by encouraging women to enter STEM through early intervention (grade school through high school) encouraging them with camps, slogans, clubs, etc.
In college and beyond, affirmative action causes a higher rate of women to get accepted.
Congrats, we tried to accomplish something and we did it.
Meanwhile, males are disincentivized.
Most teachers are female, and have subconscious anti-male bias. This might be due to men being mean to them in their lives, whatever was taught to them by society (media, culture, family, etc) about the danger and stupidity of males, whatever. It exists. They grade males harder, are less inclined to spend time with them working on issues, and have less mercy for them in disciplinarian situations.
Look to the ways men and women conflict: Boys tend to confront each other violently, girls tend to confront each other psychologically. We have zero tolerance policies for punches, not for organizing an entire friend group to ignore someone at recess.
These are all really little nudges. There's something really pathological about a man who claims that society restricts his maleness through rules and laws, as if were they to go away he would begin conquering and commanding, stealing women and raping horses. Makes me laugh, usually the guy is a potbellied software dev.
And yet, the little nudges have an effect.
Consequences?
A lot of dumb, bitter, untrained (economically unviable), single men are never good for society. Just look at 4chan and the manopshere.

>> No.10258274

>>10258264
>looks like my superiority has ruffled some feathers
you sound insecure, try to pull this bullshit irl see where it gets you

>> No.10258278

>>10258266
The question now is:
Can we as a culture realize that we need to relax in our corrections, as they're causing problems opposite to what we sought to solve? It's kind of funny, we became that which we sought to destroy.
I wonder if a proud feminist democrat lawmaker with no love for the middle of the country and a strong sense of retroactive justice could look in the face of a cute little boy who her policies will eventually fuck over and lead to ruin.
How can we incentivize males in higher ed?
couple things:
1) Men in the west tend to be quite individualistic, not inclined to help each other out. We need to make and encourage the use of mentorship programs from high school through graduate school. Men with men. Sounds gay, maybe it is, but mostly I think it will help with career planning and encouragement
2) Put in some fucking effort to school discipline. Hire more male pre-college teachers, look for people who have a passion for helping young people reach their full potential. They might have their own anti-male bias, but the gender ratio of teachers needs to be solved almost immediately.
3) We might have to get rid of some of the crutches men are using to drop out, tune in, get mad, get angry, get dumb.
I'm talking about video games, weed, porn, etc. All the most essential parts of a young doomer's life.

Parable time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion

>> No.10258279

>>10258264
You've got to try to relax. I get that you're probably kidding and have a low threshold for dickish behavior on these anonymous chan boards, but the fact that these types of thoughts come so easily to you is a problem you should look at.

>> No.10258284

>>10258264
>OK but they're both science
I'm not denying that they aren't. They do research on social/intangible structures and concepts as opposed to tangible concepts, such as living organisms, chemical reactions, etc.
>looks like my superiority has ruffled some feathers
Nobody gives a shit lmao. You're the same as anyone else You were born, you're going to live and you're going to die just like everyone else has and are going to.

>> No.10258291

>>10254270
/thread

>> No.10258296

>>10258284
OK so then psychology and sociology are STEM. This is one reason why we need to get rid of the S. If we tolerate the S then we have to tolerate sociologists.

>> No.10258313

>>10255093
obviously a test to weed out subhuman brainlets who surrender to their base instincts

>> No.10258317

>>10255093
damn. high test.

>> No.10258358

>>10258274
try your bullshit to my face and see where it gets you.

>> No.10258382

I've had pretty female chemistry teachers.
but it's true, why would most women even want to enter STEM? they could have easier lives in other social contexts. also, STEM is full of machismo.

>> No.10258393

>>10255153
Except 98% of women are #2.

>> No.10258480

>>10254515
>talked/dress “urban”

We say nigger here.

>> No.10258586

>>10255467
Is she single?

>> No.10258592

>>10257967
This.

>> No.10258599

Because other guys in stem are like Evan O'Donkey so ugly and useless

>> No.10258605

>>10258480
i don't

>> No.10258609

>>10256572
inb4 OP is a feminist scholar baiting for "evidence" to use in his masters thesis

>> No.10258673

>>10256160
Which one?

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>>10256160
>an entire subreddit for guys who do this
>oh wow a whole subreddit
and its a joke around the entire world that women are like this, whats your point

>> No.10258701

>>10254622
Lack of motivation
University used to be prestigious, now it's the bare minimum that's expected of you if you want to be anything more than a brick layer, and now you don't even get the benefit of looking like a good catch on the dating market considering many women have the same qualifications, and thus consider themselves as deserving of more than you might be able to provide. It's very easy to see why someone would want to opt out entirely and just play video games and drink all day

>> No.10258724

>>10258605
Well, it looks like it’s back to ,reddit for you then.

>> No.10259219

>>10254270
this is a parody right?

>> No.10259460

>>10255216
>because the men think school is "pussy" and do manual labor instead.
based

>> No.10259558

>>10258724
What do you think this is, a safe space? I'm not going anywhere

>> No.10259572

>>10254869
in the university of anon's anus, bait institute, hemorrhoaging polyp faculty

>> No.10259964

>>10255066
>men can not spend all night gathering sources

What exactly the fuck do you think academics do?

>> No.10260255

>>10256439
Thats like all the types of women that exist out there.
The always taken.
The crazy/autistic
The whore

Its a bad era to date as a man

>> No.10260641

>>10258480
>nigger

Why the racism?

>> No.10260788

>>10258247
>technically psychology and sociology are science
Are they really? Maybe on paper. In practice it's a cargo cult imitation of science.

I'll call sociology a science when they actually put some mathematical rigor in their models and I'll cal psychology a science when neuroscience gets to the point where it's actually viable to make concrete predictiona.

>> No.10260792

>>10260641
Why the skelly forearms?

>> No.10260794

>>10260792
Not him but not everybody can build muscle

>> No.10260805

>>10254256
First of all: There is not one single woman who works as hard as a man.

A woman who studies a hard STEM subject: She must do literally nothing, she sleeps with her tutor and all the horny nerds make research groups around her who explain her EVERYTHING in detail. Everyone makes it so ridiculously easy for a woman to get a STEM degree that even a retarded 5 year old with down syndrome could get a math degree in 3 years.

A man who studies a hard STEM subject: no one gives a fuck about you, you are the enemy, you take away the potential job another student want, everyone makes your life harder, no one is helping you, learning group don't bring shit because no one is bothered helping you. You could have an IQ of 130 but you still have a harder time than a woman with an IQ of 80. Thus the drop out rate of males is higher and males usually have their degree with nearly 30 if they ever get one, although it's proven that males are the intellectually superior gender and the village alcoholic is probably smarter than the female Physicist.

And that's why no one takes woman seriously because everyone with eyes sees how easy they have it, they basically live in Disney Land 24/7 where everyone loves and whorships them while they didn't need to do anything at all, not even gain a interesting personality, because vagina.

>> No.10260833

>>10254622
That's fucking easy to explain:

>male behavior gets called out as wrong and bad during the entirety of school
>parents are clueless boomer who don't actually give a shit about their child upbringing, hence why so many males exist with no plan whatsoever, because as a male you NEED a inspiring figure who leads you in your first 18 years of life or else it ends up in trying and failing and eventually you give up
>men never experience constant positive feedback loops like women do, men always get criticize, men get bullied far more often (even when the school years are over), men have way less sexual encounters than women
>everyone expects from men to figuring everything out by themselves and work for everything (even if it's something relatively simple as human contact, it's "expected" from you to talk to 100 women A NIGHT to EVENTUALLY get a gf) and if they dare to criticize their given state, they get called Incels and made fun of

Men are smarter than women, we are more logical and honorable. But everyone tries everything to sabotage males. At least those from lower and middle class families, rich people live in a different world where everyone lives on easy mode.

>> No.10260857

>>10260833
Get off your fucking high horse. Almost nothing you said is actually true and reeks of someone that hasn't genuinely experienced life for even a second or is someone that hasn't even reached their 20s yet.

Life is nothing like you think it is. Stop hypothesizing how society is and start actually participate in it to see for yourself how it actually works. Women are actually pretty intelligent and nice people. Guys are as well if you are actually willing to talk and connect to them.

I will never understand why 4chan has such a pesimistic view of the world while they could easily fix it by spending some actual time in society to see that they have been living in some depressing delusion instead of realizing how good life actually is.

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>>10260805
> the village alcoholic is probably smarter than the female Physicist

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW

>> No.10260884

>>10260857
Get fucked soiboi.
I'm 25 and live in a city with more females than males at the age 15-35. ALL WOMEN live on easy mode EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Go whiteknighting elsewhere, cuck,

>> No.10260889

>>10260884
>>>/pol/

>> No.10260895

>>10260889
/pol/ knows the truth and names the jew.

Are you a jew?

>> No.10260909

>>10260895
This is a science board. What are you doing here?

>> No.10260929

>>10260909
Answer my question, Goldstein.

>> No.10260959

>>10256670
Remember you said that when you come begging for biologists to save you from the next super-influenza pandemic.

>> No.10260970

>>10260805
And here I am wondering what the fuck you're talking about when half the PhDs in my lab, including my own supervisor, are women.

>> No.10261020

>>10258382
>STEM
>Macho
Lmao

>> No.10261022

>>10260970
that’s what happens when you’re bad at science and can’t get into a good lab

>> No.10261030

>>10261022
YIKES

>> No.10261067

>>10260970
Half of those are women because they lived their first 30 years of life on easy mode and got explained everything in detail. I guarantee you the only really smart people there are the men. Your female supervisor is basically as smart as a coffee servant.

>> No.10261099

>>10260833
>more logical and honorable

you know im inclined to believe youre right but youre making it harder with all this whiny bitching and blame-shifting

i hear transitioning to female is very easy these days, might wanna look into it

>> No.10261127

>>10261099
>if you point out the state of being you are just a whiny little bitch who should become a degenerate transvestite

Thanks for proving my point anon. If I would be a female, I can guarantee you that you would give me right about everything because you have the biological urge to fuck everything with a pussy.

>> No.10261131

>>10261030
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! GUYS HE ONLY POSTED A ONE WORD RESPONSE! SEE HOW
COOL AND ABOVE IT ALL HE IS! YIKES OOF WEW LAD DAMN SON!
Get fucked, get fucked, get fucked. I hope you are destroyed. I want you to be raped, I hate you
so much. Fuck you, with every fiber of my being fuck you. Stop posting like fucking girls on this
board. Stop responding with one word comments like "yikes" or "oof." This shit is fucking
infuriating and it's been going on for way to fucking long.
>"b-but I was just talking like a girl ironically"
Oh yeah, and I dressed your dad up in a wig and fucked him up the ass "ironically." Wow so
funny am I right? What irony! Stop ruining this fucking board with this fucking yikes bullshit.
Nobody is better for having read a single word comment just saying yikes. That bandwidth could
have gone to something better, the net negative value of your comment is such that it is actively
destroying the internet one bit at a time. Maybe those pixels that would have been used to say
"yikes" on your screen could go to a more worthy cause, like reddit or a facebook group!
>"yik-"
No stop right fucking there. I no you're going to comment back with "yikes," I know you just can't
get enough of that retarded shit. I want you to know you're disappointing everybody right now
with everything you say. Get fucked. Nobody comes here so they can see the word "yikes"
unaccompanied by anything else. If that were the case, they could just get a marker and some
paper and write "yikes" on their own time. Leave it by their computer maybe. Fuck you and your
yikes.
>"please, st-stop being mean to me"
Then fix your life. Fix how you comment. Maybe fix what sites you go to. Stop with this yikes
crap that's just fucking irritating.
Remember this: nobody wants, nobody likes, yikes yikes yikes

>> No.10261168

>>10261131
tl;dr: YIKES

>> No.10261271

>>10254360
She needs them both to be on at the same time, because she's not intelligent enough to use the astrophysics one, so she needs the AI one to operate it for her.

>> No.10261417

>>10261131
Thanks anon i needed that in my life

>> No.10261763

>>10254256
>attractive
>STEM women

>> No.10261952

>>10261131
Are you okay?