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10251815 No.10251815 [Reply] [Original]

Do different populations of humans really have different skulls or is this fake?

>> No.10251820

>>10251815
almost all humans have different skulls,
not all are co-joined like in your family

>> No.10251828

>>10251820

Almost all humans have different heights. That doesn't change the fact that the average man is taller than the average woman.

>> No.10251834
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>>10251815
Why would it be fake? Skull shapes serve different purposes.

>> No.10252261

>>10251815
Do you ever find yourself contemplating the shape of a person's cranium?

>> No.10252265

>>10251815
Have you ever looked at different races?

>> No.10252272

Humans aren't one singular species. In reality we are a hybrid race of Homo Sapiens, Homo Neanderthalis and Homo Denisovans. Probably Homo Erectus as well but there is no genetic proof of this yet.

The only difference between "races" is the proportion of Sapiens to Neanderthal and denisovan genetics.

If you have a lot of denisovan genes you will have a more asian phenotype. If you have a lot of Neanderthal genes you will have a more Caucasian phenotype.

If you lack a lot of neanderthal and denisovan genes you will have a more african phenotype.

We know this already the only thing we are currently studying is if Aboriginals/South East Asians and Indians also have homo erectus genetics or if their phenotype is just a pure form of homo sapien genetics without intermixing.

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10252657

>>10251834
What is this? Racism for ants?

>> No.10252661

>>10252657
>Racism
Good thing your race is dying.

>> No.10252666

>>10251815
yes, because different populations have different everything

>> No.10252676

>>10252661
Not the guy u responded to, but what does it matter if his race is dying.

We can engineer better races you absolute brainlet.

>> No.10252688

>>10252676
It doesn’t. I find it funny how whites are the only race that hate themselves so much that they want to be breeded out of existance.

>> No.10252689

>>10251815
It was somewhat true about certain areas/backgrounds in a very limited sense. Anywhere that was subject to "globalisation" historically (S.E Europe, N.E. Africa, India etc) do not have particular skull shapes because of less inbreeding. It's also not something you really get in most places anymore for the same reasons, there's been lots of population movements in the last 500 years or so.

>> No.10252692

>>10251815
The distinction between different species is arbitrary. Everyone is genetically different to some degree, even monozygotic twins.

>> No.10252846

how the fuck can it be fake it's readily apparent

dentists can differentiate between the races via teeth moldings alone

>> No.10252851

>>10252272
>Humans aren't one singular species. In reality we are a hybrid race of Homo Sapiens, Homo Neanderthalis and Homo Denisovans. Probably Homo Erectus as well but there is no genetic proof of this yet.
actually templeton found homo erectus introgression in east asian populations in a paper he wrote wayyy back in like 2004. weird that it's not spoken about more often.

>> No.10252862

>>10252688
“Races” don’t exist. They can’t be “breeded out of existence” as they’re not real, and even if they were, they have no worth, as they’re not people, they’re just phenotypes humans can be classified in. Humans will continue to exist no matter how their genetic diversity changes, so I don’t give a shit.

>> No.10252893

>>10252862
Man, you won’t accept it, fine. I assume you’re from Europe or the United States, as if you were from where I am, people would laught at you and call you an idiot for denying the concept of race.

You know, not all education centers brainwash you this bad. I know your type, logic can’t convince you.

>> No.10252915

>>10252893
Not him but I completely agree with his scientific view on race and I'm Japanese.

>> No.10252940

>>10251815
There is no classification system that outlines every race and every single genetic locus associated with each race. Until we have that, biologically defined race does not exist.

>> No.10252958

>>10252940
biologically defined race is just as valid biologically defined subspecies when you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, perhaps even more valid

old school taxonomists used to divide groups into subspecies purely on the basis of external phenotypic appearance alone. if you could differentiate between two distinct groups 75% of the time by appearance alone they were different subspecies.

>> No.10252983

>>10252915
Ok, prove I’m an absolute retard. Explain to me why, if races are a myth, the race of a bone marrow donor matters for the recipient.

>> No.10253006

>>10252983
IT doesn't matter, their HLA tissue type matters

>> No.10253035

>>10252983
Race is fake because humanity is not a single species. Instead it's a hybrid species of at least 4 different humanoid species that crossbred over a timespan. Sapiens,Neanderthals,Denisovans,Erectus. The distribution of these genes decide what "race" you are.

Bone marrow transplant like any other protein based transplant requires you to share a lot of your DNA to reduce the amount of fighting your immune system does against the foreign tissue as well as (in the case of bone marrow) the foreign tissue damages your tissue.

The lower the genetic difference the better. Meaning twins>parents>siblings>extended family>people that share your phenotype more (you would call this race)>other humans>other closely related mammals

the concept of race is also laughably bad because the same genetic values in different configuration can result in phenotype differences that would be considered a different "race" despite the genetic makeup being the same such as between Asians and Native americans.

Lastly people don't take epigenetics, dominant genes, forced enzyme productions into account while these are a lot more important than the actual genes you've got. Genetics only tell you about potential uses. Not about the phenotype that actually shows up.

In 100 years people will look back to the concept of "race" and "genetics" as pseudoscience just like we used to gauge intelligence by cranial size of children. It's just 1 little puzzle piece yet we somehow decide the entire worth of people on one single very loose data point that doesn't show the whole picture.

>> No.10253039

>>10253006
Yes, but the likelihood that they match increases with a common ethnic background, as more complex types are prevalent in some ethicities more than others.

>> No.10253041

Superficial phenotypic variation in a rather oddly homogenous single species.

Goddamn, i thought this was /sci/

>> No.10253045

>>10253041
This is completely correct. Races are pseudoscience. Can't believe people actually still use that shit.

>> No.10253054

>>10253035
Good points, will research more of this later. Thank you for taking your time explaining this.

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>>10253041
>human variation is "superficial" and "skin deep"
"no"

>> No.10253096

>>10253039
Ethic background may change the probability of a match, but in the end it really doesn't matter what race you are when doing a bone marrow transplant, the only thing that matters is your HLA tissue type.

Imagine one day we used a random number generator to randomly label every single human on Earth as A/B/C/D type humans. Then after examining we find that by chance A type people are much more likely to be a match to each other. Does that give a biological basis to A (or any other) type people?

>> No.10253101

No, OP. Everyone has the same skull despite completely different conditions and ancestry. Their faces and heads look radically different because of lots and lots of make-up. It is so frustrating for black people to have to re-apply that stuff every day, making their jaws look prognathous, knowing the problems it will create.

>> No.10253113

>>10253096
>Then after examining we find that by chance A type people are much more likely to be a match to each other. Does that give a biological basis to A (or any other) type people?
if it higher than random chance there is a biological basis to it. if black donors are better matches for organs and bone marrow to black patients there is a biological basis for it.

what you're doing in post is literally "so what if black people have a higher than random chance of having black skin, race is still meaningless" except with hla types. literally nobody but room temp iq posters will fall for it.

>> No.10253311

>>10253113
I'm not the guy you were replying to, I wouldn't say race is meaningless, but it only really matters in a social context. Race doesn't matter to bone marrow donors, HLA type does, any correlations with other things might exist but there's still only one thing that's gunna decide if you're gunna be a match

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>>10252940
>it's hard to classify the edge cases, therefore it doesn't exist at all
This, don't believe your lying eyes. Science is a game of positivist absolutes and endlessly retreating goalposts.

>> No.10254056

>>10251815
German got PHENOTYPE

>> No.10254070

Why does race matter when you can breed whatever mixture of human genes you want?

>> No.10254075

>>10253066
oooohhh water-people west of australia

>> No.10254088

>>10251815
Facial characteristics are really important to human social interaction and sexual selection. So it's not surprising that such a variety of skull shapes evolved between groups, where as the rest of the skeleton is mostly identical between groups.

>> No.10254105

>>10253066
What period does this map represent?

>> No.10254179
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10254179

>>10254088
>facial characteristics are the result of sexual selection
If this were true, all races would be at least somewhat attractive.

>> No.10254196

>>10254088
>where as the rest of the skeleton is mostly identical between groups
You are just making shit up liar

>> No.10254199

>>10254088
>skeleton is mostly identical between groups
Wut. So blacks are good at basketball and dunking because muh social construct right and Asians were really good at crawling through tiny tunnels in Vietnam to defeat the Americans was also a social construct. Forensic science uses an Ouija Board and astrology too right?

>> No.10254202

>>10251815
go outside
find some black people
look at their heads
look at some white people's heads
off yourself for being so fucking stupid

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10254247

Do different populations of females really have different boobs or is this fake?

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>>10254179
they are, you're just learning what it means to be racist.

>> No.10254271

of course

>> No.10254276

>>10253041
>oddly homogenous
what

>>10253045
argument to incredulity

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>>10254262
Thank you, professor, for the persuasive and fact-based argument!

>> No.10254307

>>10254288
Based.
>>10254262
Cringe.

>> No.10254724

>>10254288
very scientific

>> No.10254929

>>10254196
>>10254199
There are differences for sure, but they are less visible than in the skull.
Just because one race is taller or shorter on average doesn't mean there aren't tall asians or short europeans, so it's not a definitive identifier.

It would be much more difficult to determine the race of a headless skeleton versus a bodyless skull. It can be done sure, but it's much less obvious.

>> No.10255309

>>10253035
You're expecting >>10252983 to retain anything you said. They're clearly a troll or an extremely stupid person. Anyways this comment was just an excuse to tell >>10252983
>>10252893
to either read a book or kill themselves because the level of arrogance and stupidity if this person is serious is enough to make me want to do do it for them.

>> No.10255324

>>10253066
I like how the map doesent even make an effort to appear sourced.

>> No.10255349

>>10255309
So mad for an stupid post. Makes me wonder how fragile your beliefs are.

>> No.10255477

>>10255324
it's from this:

Hominin interbreeding and the evolution of human variation
Kwang Hyun Ko
Journal of Biological Research-Thessaloniki

4chan won't let me post the link because of the long string of spammy looking numbers

>> No.10255593

>>10255477
Every link to a paper is like that,so that’s really retarded for a science board.

>> No.10255598

>>10255593
No doi?

>> No.10255601

>>10254199
Please provide a paper demonstrating any difference in “tunnel crawling” ability between different “races”.

>> No.10255604

>>10254179
>What I consider attractive is universal dur

No.

>> No.10255619
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>>10255604
Attractiveness IS objective. Just like stereotypes, exceptions doesn’t mean they are not based in reality.

>> No.10255658

>>10251815
That should be apparent from simple observation.

>> No.10255675

>>10255593
looks like you win

>> No.10255938

>>10255619
Oh, then it’s objective fact that the darkest women are the most attractive, because that’s how I perceive them. Khoudia Diop is a goddess.

>> No.10256005

>>10255938
EXCEPTIONS exist.

>> No.10256037

>>10255938
"the exception proves the rule"
- someone smarter than both of us

>> No.10256348

>>10256005
not much of a rule, then.

>> No.10256725

>>10254724
It's more scientific than making an assertion based on zero evidence or data

>> No.10256727

>>10254929
>Just because one race is taller or shorter on average doesn't mean there aren't tall asians or short europeans, so it's not a definitive identifier.
This is a completely asinine statement and doesn't refute anything

>> No.10256739

>>10252940
>Until we have every single genetic locus associated with each species biologically defined species don't exist

>> No.10256949

>>10256005
Nope, it’s objective. The darkest women are the most attractive, you said so yourself.

>> No.10256965

>>10252676
based chinks will save the world since they are the only ones who don't give a single fuck and are messing with genetics

>>10252688
there's more whites alive today than ever before

>> No.10256980

>>10252676
>We can engineer better races you absolute brainlet.

Not if you deny the existence of races and biological determinism in general, and consider the science of eugenics to be akin to nazism. Maybe the Chinese will, tough.

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>>10256348
>>10256949
>t.

It’s the same as height, iq, and plenty other things, morons. Most south americans are very short, that doesn’t mean you can’t find 2m men in their populations; but they are a tiny minority.

>> No.10257232

>>10257155
No, silly. Attractiveness is, by definition, subjective. It can not be “objective” in ANY WAY, as subjects have to exist for attractiveness to exist as a concept. On the basis of objective attractiveness, though, we should simply exterminate all white women. They’re not as attractive as Africans.

>> No.10257245

>>10251815
Why would it be fake? Some of those skulls are 20,000 years apart in the evolutionary tree.

>> No.10257247

>>10252661
All races are dying, in the future everyone will have the same general appearance as Mike Pence. We'll all be orange and homogeneous.

>> No.10257300
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>>10257232
>No, silly. Attractiveness is, by definition, subjective. It can not be “objective” in ANY WAY, as subjects have to exist for attractiveness to exist as a concept.
What the fuckkkk??? You can’t even prove reality exists outside of your mind.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L45Q1_psDqk

On the basis of objective attractiveness, though, we should simply exterminate all white women. They’re not as attractive as Africans.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3013552/
How deluded are you? In nature there are plenty of examples of mates being chosen by how ‘attractive’ (how fit they are perceived to be) they are.

Peacoks: http://www.necsi.edu/projects/evolution/evolution/sexual%20selection/evolution_sexual.html

Occellated wrasse: https://www.researchgate.net/blog/post/sneaky-males-fertilize-fish-couples-eggs-in-passing

Suck my subjectively beautiful cock. I’m done with this gay Earth.

>> No.10257311

>>10257247
Look at Poland, Hungary, Italy, Austria, Japan, etc. Look at all the increasing protests against mass immigration and the inevitable EU collapse.

Why do you think all races are dying?

>> No.10257425

>>10252983
Humans can accept heart valves from pigs. That does not mean humans are pigs.

>> No.10257434

>>10255477
Links to Nature is always automatically blocked. There are many such strange things here.

>> No.10257435

>>10253113
Nice argument, but what about what this anon >>10257425 said?

>> No.10257438

>>10257434
Can confirm.

>> No.10257923

>>10255601
why do you need a paper for this? if you accept that average size varies between various ethnicities, that necessarily means that the ethnicities that are shorter and smaller on average will make for superior tunnel crawlers

you remind me of redditors that demand peer review studies confirming that the sky is indeed blue

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>>10257923
They are deluded beyond comprehension.

>> No.10258003

>>10257923
>average size varies between various ethnicities, that necessarily means that the ethnicities that are shorter and smaller on average will make for superior tunnel crawlers
No.... You can learn techniques. If they are the only ones that learn it, they will be better at it.

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>>10257232
Cope.

>> No.10258104

>>10258098
Kek. Now post the actress.

>> No.10258233

>>10253066
Looking at Britain and Japan on that map Im goning to say its still pretty superficial. Where's my high iq siberian masterace.

>> No.10258237

>>10258098
>Ai becomes aware of its existence, colorized

>> No.10259910

>>10251815
>that inuit jaw

>> No.10261692

>>10251815
What's up with the Bengali guy's teeth?

>> No.10261843
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>>10251815
Yes.
The 3 main racial groups also have different hair profiles.
African hair is flat, the same as pubes and is the only human hair that can be felted.

>> No.10262045

>>10251815
Yes, it's real.

>You, not pictured (mongoloid)

>> No.10262282

>>10251815
Always have thought this as a huge medical conspiracy. Especially when you track diasporas of same group of people in different lands you’d realize despite being similar in DNA and sharing same familial history. They somehow develop differently. Almost as if there are guerilla doctors altering stuff to keep track of population origin or port of entry. It’s mysterious like fat people who are fat despite not eating much. It’s like a big flower growing magically in sand. It needs nutrients...

>> No.10262296

>>10253066
What I find funny is cultural arrogance. How people of Native American ancestry in Americas are made fun of because of their bigger head size. Black people usually have smaller heads and smaller ears and less pronounced noses. Now in Africa they are trying to alter dna to cause bigger heads. Somehow big head=big brain=smarter.
Remembering an observational study...concluding that intelligence also correlated with sinus size. Nobody is truly happy. Beauty vs Smarts. Beauty usually means petite.

>> No.10262408

>>10261843
is that why they smell like shit?

>> No.10262758

i think skull shape has a lot to do with environmental factors, especially food consumption. if you look at our ancestors from centuries ago, they had to both consume more food and harder food at that to satisfy their hunger, now you can go and pick up a burger at McDonald's for a couple bucks that won't have any texture to it at all, thus not requiring you to chew as much.

essentially, i think chewing foods with some texture over time has the ability to change the shape of a skull, and i think a lot of people, as a result of the globalization of fast food and other easy to consume items, have shittier looking skulls as a result.

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>>10262758

>> No.10262773

This is completely fake. The major problem is the assumption that all people of one "population" have a similar skull. This is wrong. There is lots of morphological variation within every group of people. Craniometry is not real.

>> No.10262780

>>10262759
my bad, i should have included a source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9-Yh1g1xwE

>> No.10262810

>>10252657
>/pol/ anthropology
Yeah, this is a 'yikes' for me.

>> No.10262831

>>10262773
Theres oprobably a bit of both since, you know, most black people look black, most whites look white, asians look, asian. Pretty much a no brainer.

>> No.10262873

>>10252661
>hurr whitey will die off we kangz will inherit whitey tech and impregnate whitey women shieeeet
Fuck off, nigger.

>> No.10262879

>>10262773
Yeah I don't get how some people thino you can "look" black, like I mean it's all a continuum and even if you do "look" black a lot of it is due to epigenetic factors for example white people turn blacker in the sun

>> No.10262887

>>10262873
You absolute nigger. That was sarcasm, as the poster that said ‘What is this? Racism for Ants?’ is probably a white cuck.

Learn sarcasm: >>10262879.

>> No.10262888

>>10262873
>white tears: the post

>> No.10262890

>>10251815
/pol/ got shit sources and no science. They only care about this shit as long as it fits their narrative.

Racial craniometry was never useful or accurate, and it was dead half way into the 20th century.

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>>10262879
Not true: race has a large genetic component. For example, Down syndrome is a chromosomal disorder, but it causes the victim to look Chinese.

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>>10262890
>Racial craniometry was never useful or accurate, and it was dead half way into the 20th century.
Imagine rejecting huge parts of our scientific understanding of the world because it fails in the edge cases. What a strange, limited mindset it would entail if you actually believed this argument... which you totally don't, faggot.

>> No.10262930

I actually need to know if this is true so I know if I should go to a surgeon that specialises in my race for FFS.

>> No.10262931

>>10262923
>Imagine rejecting huge parts of our scientific understanding
What are you referring to exactly?

>> No.10262937

>>10262931
The well established correlation with brain size and IQ?

>> No.10262940
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>>10262931
>What are you referring to exactly?
"Racial craniometry", the term taken at face value. Physical anthropology more generally. And then the broader scientific study of race.

>> No.10262966

>>10262937
Why are you bringing this up? I talked about racial craniometry, not IQ and brain sizes.

And looking it up, it seems there is a weak correlation between the two, but I don't see how this correlation gives us any predictors for scull shapes of different races and IQ? Also there isn't any established causal link from brain size to IQ. Dont jump the gun on correlations.

>>10262940
This is again totally irrelevant, and you seem to be wrong too, scientific study of race would be physical anthropology(depending on what exactly you're looking at) but its not exclusively the study of race. Show me I'm wrong if you think so.

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>>10262966
>This is again totally irrelevant, and you seem to be wrong too, scientific study of race would be physical anthropology(depending on what exactly you're looking at) but its not exclusively the study of race. Show me I'm wrong if you think so.
So you could have made *any* argument you wanted, and you chose to split hairs between "physical anthropology" and "study of race"?

>> No.10262996

>>10262981
I already said it was irrelevant, and what else should I have responded to? Or should I just have let you shits straw-man me like that?

>> No.10263004

>>10262890
Its dead because it triggers jews who want to convince whites that africans with ancestry split from whites since 100,000 B.C are exactly the same as whites right now.

>> No.10263008
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>>10262996
What is irrelevant to what? What straw-man? Be clear. Now, here is a second image that shows how cranial measurements align with race. What specifically is it about craniometry that you're trying to deny?

>> No.10263012

>>10263004
Peak science right here.

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>>10252272
>>10252851

proof that africans are subhuman

>> No.10263036

>>10263012
Niggers are homo sapien but not the same subspecies as us, and they have too many anatomical differences along with mental differences for us to not reconsider what should be done with them in our societies. There is a good reason why prior to jews blacks were virtually unseen outside of Paleolifrica.

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10263039

>>10262408
No, that's because we spread different shit upon sweating. Which is why we consider blacks to smell, while Asians consider all of us to smell.

>> No.10263040

>>10263008
>What is irrelevant to what? What straw-man?
Here:
>What specifically is it about craniometry that you're trying to deny?
I'm not denying crainomerty, I'm saying that the practice of racial crainomerty where you tried to figure intelligence and other traits from skull sizes is dead and was never scientific or useful. We don't learn much about a person from measuring sculls.

>> No.10263085

>>10263032
If anything, those claims imply niggers and aborigenes are the true Homo Sapiens and that whites and asians are literal mutts.

>> No.10263106

>>10263085
It's ironic that crossbreeding bestowed modern man with the intelligence to build civilizations, and yet interracial relationships are now demonized by /pol/ and white supremacists.

This is why /pol/ can't be taken seriously, kek.

>> No.10263142

>>10263106
Neanderthals are not a race they are another species entirely, and most of our DNA is homo sapien meaning the species mixing didnt do shit in the grand scheme of things. Also why are you shilling for interracial relationships?

>> No.10263450

>>10254724
Post your science instead then

>> No.10263583

>>10263040
>'racial craniometry' is the study of intelligence and brain volume
I won't even ask where you got this idea.
>>10263039
Doesn't explain Indians.

>> No.10263601

>>10263004
You should be glad that Jews are trying to equalise society. If Jews were more mean they'd have you picking their cotton because you're literally niggers to them

>> No.10263615

>>10263004
>retarded incel that wants to blame things on jews expecting to be taken seriously
where the fuck are the bans for all these brain dead incel invaders

>> No.10263659

>>10262890
racial craniometry continued to be more than useful when it came to forensic anthropology, it was pretty spot. heck even dental imprinting alone was pretty good when it came to identifying race. dna sequencing is now obviously superior to both. but racial craniometry being useless I think not

>> No.10263665

>>10263601
You're right you know. But then again we are all niggers under the chosenites anyway. All hail the PHENOTYPE ashkenazi women CRAVE.

>> No.10265805

>craniometry
I'll always find amusing how whitey wants to move niggers into another species. You should hang yourself while I fuck your whitey women.

>> No.10266099

>>10252688
If a white person and a non-white person breed how is that breeding whites out of existence? Half of the DNA is still passed on by the white parent it doesn't just disappear. The whole concept of "white genocide" is such a meme created by people who don't understand how genetics works.

>> No.10266102

>>10266099
>Half of the DNA is still passed on by the white parent it doesn't just disappear
Yes, but it gets mixed. It's not pure anymore.

>> No.10266114

>>10266102
This.

>> No.10266119

>>10251815
>all humans have different fingerprints
>it must be fake

>> No.10266375

>>10252940
>There is no classification system that outlines every value and every single number associated with mathmatics. Until we have that, Scientifically defined mathmatics does not exist.
2+2= Null.

>> No.10266481

>>10253041
>Superficial phenotypic variation

Nothing about this variation is "superficial"

>in a rather oddly homogenous single species.

Domesitic dogs are extremely homogenous compared to wolves, and yet, domestic dogs has Great Danes and Chihuahua, while most people cannot even tell wolves apart despite the fact that they are more genetically "diverse" then domestic dogs are.

In fact, human races are more like domestic dogs then people understand, since both are the product of artificial selection and because both happen rapidly.

Race deniers need to be fucking executed. Listen to me jackass. You can eliminate and deny race all you want, but the thing is, I don't need race to discover that black people are genetically less intelligent. If you spend five minutes using your brain, you will realize how and why that can happen, and why you don't need race to discover racial differences.

>> No.10266499

>>10263106
>It's ironic that crossbreeding bestowed modern man with the intelligence to build civilizations, and yet interracial relationships are now demonized by /pol/ and white supremacists.

Probably because it didn't and you just randomly spewed out this absolutely retarded unscientific claims that race mixing produced man the intelligence with civilization. Like what the fuck? And you call /pol/ retarded when your spewing race mixing propaganda. Well then fuckhead, if race mixing with Neanderthals are responsible for civilization, how come it still took over 30000 years for civilization to pop up? Gee, does the effect of race mixing to take up?

IS that why Latin America is such a incredible civilization? Gee, I wonder why /pol/ is taken seriously. It helps not saying such completely retarded things like you just did.

>> No.10266507

>>10251815
What are the chances of this not being the case?

Aside from that you can literally look at black people and see that on average they have wider noses then whites.

>> No.10266509

>>10266481
>Domesitic dogs are extremely homogenous compared to wolves, and yet, domestic dogs has Great Danes and Chihuahua, while most people cannot even tell wolves apart despite the fact that they are more genetically "diverse" then domestic dogs are.
It's almost as if phenotype =/= genotype.

>> No.10266528

>>10252940
Can we classify ANYTHING then?

Apply that standard to anything else and see how ridiculous it is...
How can I separate tables from chairs if I haven't looked at every table and chair to ever exist?

>> No.10266539

>>10266509
WOW, you don't say? What under nuggets of genetic wisdom do you know jackass?

Did they also tell you that phenotype can have a significant effect of an organism life? Did they tell you that? Did they tell you how that realization makes half of the race denial arguments look fucking stupid, especially when they act like these differences between races are just "superficial"?

>> No.10266578

>>10266499
Keep seething whiteboy.

>> No.10266592

>>10266578
You know what would make me seethe? Realizing the truth about race and lying in my death bed being a black, and realizing that I was doomed to live my entire life with a genetic disorder, doomed to never escape it. Thankfully, I don't have to live that fate.

>> No.10266623

>>10266592
Keep taking credit for things people did 100+ years ago whiteboy. Maybe on your deathbed you will realize you're actually a loser.

>> No.10266629
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10266629

>>10266623
And what have you done?

>> No.10266646

>>10266629
Plenty. I have several infrastructure projects with my stamp on it.

>> No.10266653

>>10266592
Blacks don't post on 4chan, everytime you see cuckold porn it was written by angry anti-white asian men from r/hapas.

>> No.10266655

>>10266646
>I have several infrastructure projects with my stamp on it.
Not him, but I would have significantly more respect if you were a bricklayer then some bureaucrat who gives out stamps...

>> No.10266672

>>10266646
Then why can’t you understand that one thing is taking credit and the other is build upon, in some way, what your ancestors have achieved.

I could understand, MAYBE, being being proud of something you did nothing for.

I’m not him, by the way.

>> No.10266712

>>10263601
>You should be glad that Jews are trying to equalise society
No, jews already know blacks cannot ever compete with them thats why they want the entire human race to be black, this is nothing but pure evil marching blacks to their eventual eternal enslavement while disguising it as "progress".
>>10263615
Oh my another jew trying the incel buzzword, that confirms its a way for jew to say "white goy" stealthily.

>> No.10266720

>>10266099
>If a white person and a non-white person breed how is that breeding whites out of existence?
Its not if the host population is majority white, however most racemixing occurs in black majority areas meaning the white genes are extinguished overtime. Racemixing wouldnt be an issue if negro illegal immigration(refugees) was banned.

>> No.10266732

>>10266623
Again rare intelligent black you dont matter as you dont contribute an inch to the genome of your race, its your feral retards who do on the otherhand thats why we really dont care how many of you civilized very smart blacks exist because until you can do that to your entire race then shut the fuck up. Advance your entire race or be quiet, imagine being as smart as you and not realizing your subhuman majority are the reasons no one likes you at all and instead of you smart blacks dealing with them(genociding) them you for some reason feel sorry for these wild animals that would rob/rape/kill you in a heartbeat. Truely smart blacks are the greatest cucks on Earth.

>> No.10266848

>>10266099
The whole concept of Native American genocide is just a meme. Race is just a meme. Each mulatto was 50% white, 50% native, so the Native American population today is just as strong as it was in 1500. Also race doesn't exist, so the Native Americans had no claim to the American continents, and hence colonialsm is a historical fiction.

Native Americans should be happy that Europeans brought them captialism, democracy, Christianity, and empirical science. Thank's to European "colonialism"" Native American culture is thriving more than ever, and their race is stronger and more diverse than ever before. Also you can say that Early Modern Eurocentric cultural ideals, values, and practices presented any threat to Native American identity, since race doesn't actually exist, and hence it makes no sense to speak of "Native American" identity.

>> No.10266852

>>10266848
*Can't say

>> No.10266860
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10266860

>>10266848
Redpilled poster.

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>>10266848

>> No.10267999

>>10251828
This thread isn't about sexual dimorphism.
Your post is stupid and irrelevant.

The correct answer is: Given that genetic variation is inevitable, and that skull shape is genetic, it follows that groups of humans would develop a distinctive skull shape over time, just as they might develop other variations such as skin color.
I suppose the superficiality of said variations are debatable, but that's not what OP asked.

>> No.10268105

>>10251815
Yeah, you can tell ethnicity and sex based on bone analysis.

>> No.10268310

>>10268105
No, you can only tell assigned sex at birth.

>> No.10268413

>>10268310
You can tell sex and ethnicity from skeletal examination, even after a life long hormonal treatment you can differentiate.

>> No.10268425

>>10252657
>racial gap is explained by socio-economic factors
Then why are niggers shit in every scenario worldwide and cant prosper on their own?

>> No.10268432

>>10252862
>this thing isn't real and also it'll be good when it's gone
V honest

>> No.10268500

>>10251815

African skulls are up to having a party.

German skull is familiar from WW2 documentaries desu.

>> No.10268505

Ask a caricature drawer. They can't afford false

>> No.10268530

>>10266712
Whites can't compete either.

>> No.10268542

>>10268425
Because white people desu

>> No.10268555

>>10268530
>Whites can't compete either.
Going purely from IQ whites can.
Their greater numbers guarantee that even at the very high percentiles they are numerically superior.

And "Jews" by themselves don't have a high average IQ, just calculating the average Jewish IQ by the IQ of Israel (calculating out the Arabs) leads to an IQ of around 100, there are certain subsets of Jews with a very high IQ, but guess what, the exact same is true for whites. So the "Jews are better then whites" meme really isn't all that true.

>> No.10268741

>>10251815
Yes they have different skull shapes, the roughness of every one is caused by time thou if you ignore color and softnes/roughnes they are very similar, but yeah in one authopsi if the only have the skull they can tell if the guy is black white or whatever pretty acurately, but an average joe i dont think so, maybe becase joe has seen 1 real skull at most but anyway, yeah different races have different common characteristics

>> No.10269015

>>10266592
>Proclaims to be glad that he isn't black
>Can't stop thinking about blacks anyway
>>10266653
>Not him, but I'm posting though.
>>10266655
Why should he give one iota of a fuck about your 'respect'?
>>10266732
>Wall of autism
Fuck off.

>> No.10269161

>>10269015
>Why should he give one iota of a fuck about your 'respect'?
Because the argument was about "what you have done", the entire point is doing something respectable.

>> No.10269189 [DELETED] 

>>10268555
>>10269161
It's an engineer's stamp. It means I designed it.

>> No.10269190

>>10266655
>>10269161
It's an engineer's stamp. It means I designed it.

>> No.10269193

>>10268555
Reddit spacing.
Take your gold faggot nazi

>> No.10269195

>>10269161
And judging by your response, it doesn't matter anyway because of the shifting goalposts.
>Hey I'm an intergeral part of the overall project.
>Pffft, whatever nigger, you didn't do the 'ACTUAL' construction, so it doesn't count.

>> No.10269198

>>10269189
>>10269190
Yeah I get it, no need to spam.

But nice for you, but which engineer designs buildings? I thought that was the job of an architect.

>>10269195
Can you stop spamming please? No great for you that you have a job.

>> No.10269207

>>10269193
>Reddit spacing.
No, it isn't Reddit spacing.

Reddit spacing is this.

Separating individual sentences by line breaks.

For no reason.

I just inserted a new line to indicate a switch in content.

>Take your gold faggot nazi
Can you make an argument or not?

Also no homophobia!

You Nazi.

>> No.10269208

>>10269198
>Spam
Ever stop to think that I'm not him (the engineer).

>> No.10269215

>>10269208
>Ever stop to think that I'm not him (the engineer).
No, I thought that starting your sentence with an "And" and talking about what exactly his role was, was supposed to be the engineer guy giving an addendum to his previous post.

>> No.10269222

>>10269198
You're talking to more than one person. I double posted because I replied to the wrong post.

All buildings have both architects and engineers. I don't design buildings though. I design stormwater infrastructure.

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10269225

>>10269207
Ashkenazi Jews have a huge arab admixture. It seems that's the thing separating them from normal whites.

>> No.10269231

>>10269222
Nice for you and it is pretty hard to distinguish posters when something like this happens, especially with the lead in of "And" from the other guy.

>> No.10269247

>>10269231
Whatever. I don't take credit for distant cousins of my distant ancestors because they shined Thomas Edison's shoes once. But white supremacists will keep sucking at that teet because they have nothing going on in their own sad lives.

>> No.10269262

>>10269225
>Ashkenazi Jews have a huge arab admixture
I mean, they are literally Arabs who emigrated to Europe.

>that's the thing separating them from normal whites.
Considering the lower IQ of Arabs and that the Jews in Israel with less white admixture have a lower IQ, probably not.

Just compare different Jewish tribes, the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews, which has the higher IQ and which has interbred more with whites?

The picture is also enormously stupid, I don't know how it's possible.
The entire bottom section is literally beyond sanity, have the authors considered that "Foreign admixture" might be a very stupid metric for comparing IQ and that nurture might exist?
But I don't want to respond to an image, so make your arguments yourself.

>> No.10269271

>>10269247
>I don't take credit
Nobody does that.
Me going into an art gallery and appreciating what Europeans did is not "me taking credit", this is absurd.

>> No.10269288

>>10269262
The low Arab IQ of Jews should lower their white IQ and so they should end up with 90 IQ but instead they're 108+
Really makes you wonder how the inferior Arab genes aren't pulling their IQ down.

>> No.10269295

>>10269271
You're also not necessarily a white supremacist. But a large number of white supremacists have no accomplishments, yet feel like their skin color makes them a boon to society. That society would be better off with them, rather than darker people with more accomplishments. They seethe at the thought of not being given credit simply for being white. They want a piece of that pie they had no hand in baking.

>> No.10269304

>>10269288
>The low Arab IQ of Jews should lower their white IQ and so they should end up with 90 IQ but instead they're 108+
Well that's a pretty reasonable hypothesis, until you realize that Jews, usually as bankers and such, were part of the upper classes of the societies they inhibited and since a rich banker won't marry some 85 IQ farm girl, but the daughter of eg. another merchant, who needs to have a high IQ to be successful, it would be way more reasonable to assume that Jews should have the IQ of the social class they inhabited, so around 120 I would say.

>Really makes you wonder how the inferior Arab genes aren't pulling their IQ down.
Arab genes aren't inferior.

>> No.10269308

>>10269295
I have yet to meet such a person, where do you find these people and how do you know so much about them?

>> No.10269319

>>10269304
We have nothing to discuss. You're not racist enough to be a proper opponent.

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>>10269308
You've only met well-educated white supremacists I guess...

Have you ever been to /pol/?

>> No.10269329

>>10269319
>We have nothing to discuss.
Well, you made a claim and I argued against it.

>You're not racist enough to be a proper opponent.
Maybe. But don't you mean by "racist" just someone who has less arguments then me?

>> No.10269343

>>10251815
It is real, for the same reason Africans have darker skin/more melanin than Europeans. Different food sources and foods are the reason for this, I believe.

>> No.10269348

>>10269322
Well, I don't think I have ever met a "white supremacists", even the "mainstream" of the far right is far away from the people in your picture.

>Have you ever been to /pol/?
Yes, but it's been a while. Finding a "white supremacists", as in a person who believes that whites should be supreme above other races, was pretty rare and I never bothered talking to them.

>> No.10269363

>>10269348
Well, welcome to the internet buddy. Read up on the alt-right and 1488 memes.

>> No.10269376

>>10269363
>Read up on the alt-right and 1488 memes.
I already told you that I have browsed /Pol/ for quite a bit, but I am actually unaware of any person (of actual significance) in the alt right who fits your description of a "white supremacists".

>1488
I still don't get the association, Hitler was about the least "white supremacists" you can get.

>> No.10269388

>>10269376
Nobody actually follows their leaders ideals to the letter.
Hitler liked muslims, /pol and nazis hate muslims

>> No.10269392

>>10269329
You agree with me too much.

>> No.10269393

>>10269376
>I am actually unaware of any person (of actual significance) in the alt right who fits your description of a "white supremacists".
Exactly. It's a whoooole bunch of nobodys and losers who are the white supremacists. But these people fabricate propaganda and they vote. And they shit up the other boards on this website.
>I still don't get the association, Hitler was about the least "white supremacists" you can get.
Very funny, but 1488 is not even a Hitler thing, it's specifically a white supremacy thing.

>> No.10269395

>>10269388
>Nobody actually follows their leaders ideals to the letter.
Yes, this is obviously true, for all sides of the political spectrum.

>Hitler liked muslims, /pol and nazis hate muslims
Well, just go to the Syria general, to see that disproved or what happened when the Muslims were protesting against Israel during the moving of the capital. /pol/ doesn't like Muslims in Europe and Hitler probably wouldn't have either.

>> No.10269397

>>10269231
I'm the 'And' guy, and it's not hard to tell that there was more than one poster responding to you, if you had followed the reply chain to where I had first responded to you with:
>why should he give one iota
>he
>>10269271
>Nobody does that.
Bullshit, literally every time some /pol/ fag goes "We invented x", or "If if weren't for us, y wouldn't have happened", they're doing what that anon is describing.
>>10269348
>Finding a white supremacist was rare
>on /pol/
Uh huh. Sure.

>> No.10269399

>>10269395
>Well, just go to the Syria general
They call it sandnigger general

>> No.10269400

>>10269393
>Very funny, but 1488 is not even a Hitler thing,
The 88 LITERALLY stands for Heil Hitler, H is the 8th letter in the alphabet.

>> No.10269406

>>10269400
Okay. Well the 14 part is specifically for white supremacy.

>> No.10269412

>>10269397
>"If weren't for us, y wouldn't have happened"
>"We invented x"
But this is just true. Usually it is in response to the other direction of people blaming whites now for colonialism or blaming Germans now for the Holocaust, curiously I see few people who aren't from /pol/ complaining about that.

>Uh huh. Sure.
Yes, it was, nobody but the fringes of the fringes of the "right" is a white supremacists. All "white supremacists" on Earth couldn't fill up up /pol/.

>>10269406
Yes, that is my point. You can't take that meme seriously, it's ridiculous.

>> No.10269429

>>10269412
>Yes, that is my point. You can't take that meme seriously, it's ridiculous.
I don't take it seriously. But others do.

>All "white supremacists" on Earth couldn't fill up up /pol/.
Like I said before, there are enough of them, and they shit up the internet and spread propaganda.

>> No.10269435

>>10269412
>the other direction of people blaming whites now for colonialism or blaming Germans now for the Holocaust
Talk about the fringes of the fringes.....

>> No.10269440

>>10269412
>But this is just true.
That a white/European person invented 'x'? Yes. Does that mean that their brilliance somehow transmuted over time and space and as a result, all whites are genius inventors? No.
>Usually it is in response to the other direction of people blaming whites now for colonialism or blaming Germans now for the Holocaust, curiously I see few people who aren't from /pol/ complaining about that.
That shit is stupid as well. It's two sides of the same dumb coin.

>> No.10269444

>>10269288
>arab
mizrahim and ancient israelites aren’t the same populations and the Jews of the 7th century who migrated fron greece and israel to italy weren’t arabic admixed at all and probably already had a higher iq than their semitic cousins surrounding them. Israel’s iq also isn’t 90 its 95 and that’s very close to most european nations.

>> No.10269468

>>10269440
>Does that mean that their brilliance somehow transmuted over time and space and as a result, all whites are genius inventors? No.
And I don't think that is implied.

>That shit is stupid as well. It's two sides of the same dumb coin.
Then why get upset over some fringe /pol/tards doing it? And not Everytime some politician invokes the Holocaust or slavery or the occupation of native land as an argument for something?

>> No.10269500

>>10266720
>Racemixing wouldnt be an issue if negro illegal immigration(refugees) was banned.
It is banned brainlet that's why it's called "illegal"immigration

>> No.10269501

>>10269468
>And not Everytime some politician invokes the Holocaust or slavery or the occupation of native land as an argument for something?
You keep changing your argument. There's nothing wrong with recalling history to explain the present. Before you were mad at people blaming current Germans for the Holocaust or current white people for slavery. Show me a politician that does this and I will shit on them.

I will keep shitting on /pol/ because white supremacy is evil, and they don't keep to themselves.

>> No.10269516

>>10269468
>And I don't think that is implied.
And you would be incorrect, anon.
>Why get upset
Pointing out their absurd logic =/= being upset.
>And not Everytime some politician
Nothing wrong with bringing up historical events to connect to the current subject as long as it is relevant. It becomes unfair and absurd when the blame gets shifted to the current people for things that previous generations did.

>> No.10269585

>>10269444
You're nitpicking. There's only two things in the world. Whites and non-whites. Jews are non-white and smart.