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Why colonize Mars and make people on its surface suffer from cosmic radiation and micro gravity when there is nothing of economical value on the planet? We are better off drilling into asteroids and make something like pic related.

>> No.10230861

>Dude just like build an oneill cylinder lmao

>> No.10230871

>>10230861
literally less expensive than mars colonization

>> No.10230886

>>10230857
There's a german short film from 2004 where everybody on Earth is killed by an asteroid and the first team of people on Mars (only 6 people) have to come to terms with their mortality. You reminded me of it.

>> No.10230898
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>>10230857
much better indeed

>> No.10230907

>>10230871
Literally not.

>> No.10230929

>>10230907
depends on what you understand under colonisation

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>>10230898
Gross, spheres are ugly compared to the chad cylinder

>> No.10230942

>>10230857
Because planets have less radiation than space/asteroids, don't have microgravity, and have more types resources and larger amounts of them and space mining doesn't need colonies at all

>> No.10230964

>>10230932
fucking based

>> No.10230972

>>10230857
Well there is not much economic value in vacuum either. Better stay here and work for mr.shekelberg and his government.

>> No.10230982

>>10230857
>suffer from cosmic radiation and micro gravity
I mean if we were able to generate an atmosphere that would help filter out radiation.
It would take a while but it would still work.

>We manufacture those by the way

>> No.10230990

>>10230982
We also need to generate magnetosphere to protect the generated atmosphere from being blown away by the solar wind.

>> No.10231009

Or you just have your habitats underground...

>> No.10231158

>>10230990
Is magnetism really a problem though?

I believe I read Venus has no magnetism and its atmosphere is pretty much as thick as Earth's besides the sulfuric rain and the 1000f surface temps of course.

Though it would be pretty fucking scary if it mattered so much because the earth seems to be passing through some magnetic phase and we might lose it for a while at least.

I certainly don't want to die in vacuum because the shitty core decided to do site maintenance.

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>>10230972
>work for mr.shekelberg and his government
looks like more and more people become sick of working for traitor Trump and quit government jobs

>> No.10231171

>>10231158
I think the solar wind blows away the lighter molecules like hydrogen and oxygen leaving heavier chemicals like co2 and sulfur behind on Venus. That's probably why we see majority of outer planets are hydrogen rich.

>> No.10231350
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>>10230857
Live 500 meters below the surface no radiation problems at all.
1/3 earth gravity, no diseases,no parasites, health monitored 24/7, environment designed for maximum human comfort and enjoyability (park like), no crime, everything supplied (like lkiving on a cruise ship)
The perfect place to retire.

>> No.10231383

>>10230990
The rate at which the solar wind blows away the atmosphere is very slow. It is feasible (assuming we had the power to even generate a suitable atmosphere in the first place) to actively sustain the atmosphere. Eventually it might even be possible to artificially generate a magnetic field.

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>no gravity well, meaning less expense with transport, and less attraction of harmful asteroids
>absolute control over gravity, climate, pressure, atmosphere composition, species present(meaning no agricultural plagues, mosquitos, or other undesirables), day/night cycle and orbit
>infinitely better livable surface/mass ratio
>can be used to create a Dyson Swarm
>can be used as a fucking weapon of mass desctruction against federation scum

How can planets even compete with the based O'neill cylinder?

>> No.10231541

>>10231417
Sieg Zeon brother

>> No.10231736

>>10230857
>Mars
Turns out the moons of Mars are actually the best places in the system for us to build large rotating space stations inside of. Just drill through them and you can fit dozens of these inside of them.

>> No.10231776

>>10231736
Made of what?

>> No.10231784

Go discuss your meme cylinders somewhere else Jeff, there even more wacky than Musk's colonisation plans.

>> No.10231808

>>10231784
Musk is getting into the rectal markets?

>> No.10231834

>>10231808
Lol

>> No.10231874

>>10231776
What would we make the space stations out of? I don't know, I never looked into it. I just saw a presentation not too long about it and thought it sounded reasonable.

>> No.10231887

>>10231776
>>10231874
Steel, graphene, soil, compacted regolith and basalt fibers are some options.

>> No.10231895

>>10230857
>dude, why diversify? All eggs in one basket is fine

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>>10231417
>no local natural resources
I suppose you'd have to build these in or near an asteroid belt or a gas giant, allowing you to harvest materials for repairs, maintenance, items for the population, etc.

Then you could manufacture a sizable number of defensive ships, slap a large ion drive on one end of the cylinder, you'd have a pretty mobile colony fleet.

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>>10230857

>> No.10232130

>>10230857
>Implying we can into megastructures
Until we can, might as well use what's there.

>> No.10232234

>>10230857
>why live in the mountains in montana when you could live in an apartment building? It's in your economic best interest
This is you

>> No.10232246

>>10231895
>diversifying but settling people on a barren isolated death trap is a good use of resources and time

>> No.10232285

>>10231350
>no diseases,no parasites
Life always finds a way.

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>>10230857
>colonize Mars

Do it before China does.

>> No.10232598

put the jews there

>> No.10232679

>>10230886
What the movie name?

>> No.10233491

>>10232481
Those incompetent rice munchers can't even colonize Tibet.

>> No.10233598

>>10233491
If they get genetic programs up and running they'll have it colonized out the wazoo by the next generation

>> No.10233637

>>10232085
like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6sBoWvZFVI

>> No.10233651

>>10233637
Fuck, I need to catch up on that show. Does the writing get any better after season 2?