/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10226056
continuing my 4.0 after what... 15 classes? 10 in the math major? 10 of them upper division?
it was a tough semester, but the hard work paid off. and i don't go to a uni where it's easy to get an A. they grade deflate here. i've gotten top of my class in most classes, and this is a top tier uni.
*yawn* but enjoy your A average

>>10226072
Nice fanfic brainlet. Now back into your tard pen

Got a C in Vector Calculus :^]

>>10226056
I got a 10k pay rise at my consultancy job today, so that was neato.

>>10226072
How bad do you need that bbc after all that hard work pal?

>>10226056
2.85, retaking calc I

going to fail chem. i should get off this board

>>10226095
What level of chemistry are we talking?

>>10226098
gen chem lol. its my first sem

>>10226056
kek

>>10226101
What are you struggling with?

>>10226095
I was the same boat last year, so i switched to math. It's so much easier, everything just makes sense

I'm about to fail a real analysis II exam. I'm a retard, got 9/10 on the first exam and today I'm sure I'll get a straight 0.

I'm tired of studying, it's not worth it.

>>10226103
struggling to cram everything before my finals tomorrow.
>>10226109
what is your major? chem is one of my prerequisites and failing the first one just means im not cut out for it

>>10226114
I was a chem major, now I'm a math major

>>10226056
high iq thread

>>10226134
>>10226109
Niggas chemistry is just memorization. If you can't even memorize basic things like what a covalent bond is how the fuck do you expect to succeed in math which is a lot harder. You idiots do realize that upper level math classes involve very little computation and a lot of theory and memorization right? I see a failure in your future.

>>10226156
>you do realise that x right?

>>10226156
I'm already 3rd year and I'm getting straight A's. I've taken calculus, linear algebra, abstract algebra, real analysis, and differential equations. Math is way easier than chem. Compared to chem, math requires way less memorization

>>10226165
>memorization = difficult

>>10226156

because covalent bonds are retarded

>>10226203
What kinda basic shit are you learning? I was taught that in fucking 10th grade

>>10226204

that's why it's retarded

>>10226205
>that's why it's retarded
You just need to memorize the electronegativity difference to understand covalent bonding.

>>10226217

only gay people do that

>>10226217
>memorize the electronegativity

You only need to memorise the trend of electronegativity in the bottom-left to top-right trend across the periodic table.

>>10226072
larp

>>10226072
I met two kind of people during my time at uni:
There were those who excelled at the first 3 semesters but tanked miserably when the specialization classes came into play
And there were those who were average at the beginning semesters but performance and grades increased rapidly with specialization classes, I am in this second group. This second group also gets the most awards
Of course there are those who fail miserably during the first two semesters but they fall out quickly and doesn't count in any way.

Once in a while there is someone who excels both at the beginning and the spec but those are turboautists and nobody likes to work with them. They also don't count since they don't get jobs and stay in academia to be despised by both students and fellow teachers.

>>10226056
>not having everything A in the first semester to show off

>>10226614
see
>>10226602
same for me, my classmate who was top at first two semesters is one year behind now because she had to repeat lab classes. As I heard she has to repeat analytical chemistry again and didn't even try structural mechanics yet. When I finish she will be at least one year away from graduating, if she doesn't drop out.
We have rules of 2 retries of classes plus 1 additional retry for one class if the Dean agrees and automatic dropout if a final hasn't been taken in 3 years of first signing up.
Stuck up math chick is actually looking at dropping out with an A/B first two semesters.

>>10226072
sorry for the toxicity anon, I guess most people here truly are lazy insecure brainlets.

>>10226602
Tfw you've done well in all your classes and had 3 internships. Tfw turboautist anyway

>>10226156
>chemuhstree is just memorization guise

>>10226602
My experience was two kinds of people: people who were competent but class structure was oriented towards group work, and being someone who actually wants to study and do stuff as a hobby, you're left out of social circles. The second group is cheaters, who will openly share work and copy from outside sources to get ahead.

My major didn't permit specialization (EE). There were a few directions the major went in (physics, electronics being the main), and they sort-of built on knowledge and expertise, but there wasn't a pure skill set.

What was your major?

>>10226838
I have a question for chem majors lile you.

Which country are you studying in?
How many lab sections a week do you have?
How many hours do those experiment and writing reports take?
I am sorry if i am sounding a bit creepy

>>10226876
Not chem major, matsci course and specialization
We do rely heavily on chemistry and physics/phys-chem so we might be a specialized chem major equivalent
Hungarian university, lab sections depends on how many lab oriented classes you take on in each semester. This means if you switch a class for next semester you are basically fucking yourself because labs are mandatory with entry tests (for teachers to check if you know what you should be doing) and you only have two bigger sessions at the end of each semester to repeat missed assignments. You simply can't repeat the entire semester plan.
After the preliminaries of the first 2-3 semesters we have about 50-50% labs per week and increasing towards the last semester.
Writing the reports depend on the class and topic, some labs you write a simple report by hand and hand it in at the end of the lab session, some you can hand the report in after 2 weeks, these are mandatory format with some study and homework-like calculation parts. Some labs you take entirely at home, like the mold and die design with CAD and FEM simulation labs where I had to work at home doing the single sheet of instructions but resulting in 2 weeks of heavy work and studying to actually do the final report, these are 20-30 pages minimum. most of it is just screenshot copy paste and drawing export, but still, fuck simulations.
So by the end of the course you had actual experience on all kinds of lab work and reports. Strangest was the optical microscopy labs where you had to draw what you saw by hand even though the microscopes had image export functions. It was fun, and I can draw most structures when needed to explain on a napkin if needed.

>>10226872
Not being able to socialize at the bare minimum (read: participate in an online group with your classmates) will always set you back a lot. Being able to ask for help and help others, even with just exchanging notes, slides and textbooks means half (or more) of your success. Don't be a spaghetti

>>10226968
You baited me.

A's in all my classes besides chemistry, I understand everything and when I do some practice problems I get them all correct. Today I took my exam and my teacher made it so fucking long and I had never seen some of the questions before. The least I can do is study, but what the fuck. Have you ever had a teacher like this?

>>10226998
>teacher asked questions that weren't 1:1 with homework
It's as if you're doing... a slightly competent class.

I finished my last semester at Texas A&M. I'm really gonna miss that place.

>>10227000
Even still, I expect the free response to be concerning a topic we learned about in lecture. I understand that you have to read on your own and spend more time outside of class, but if every exam is like this than why is chemistry so much more harder. My math prof does the same thing because he likes to challenge us so why cant i do this?

>>10226989
It is true though. If you can't socialize you are only limiting yourself

>>10226998
>I had never seen some of the questions before.
This is supposed to always happen. You should understand the underlying concepts of the course well enough to improvise.

>>10227028
Chem is a lot like lego, you are being taught the basic blocks and how to use them, it is up to you to be able to solve a more complex problem. At least you know what to expect next, so practice based on that.

>>10226072
Literal homosexuality is less fucking gay than this post

A - Counselling
A - English 101
A - Cinema
Probably got a fucking B or C in linear algebra, but I can't check my grades because the school site is fucking retarded.
Btw I'm a math major ;(

>>10227057
>math major
>counseling
>english 101
>cinema
>MATH MAJOR

Are you sure you picked the right major? Or are you deliberately trying to fuck yourself up?

>got a 58 on my probability theory exam
I dont know what else I could've done, I studied hard for the past few days leading up to it. This is the first math class that wrecked me.

>>10226072
Weird flex but ok

i started drinking and smoking heavily and dropped out
got chronic hives that last all night and all morning.
didn't ask out my cute computer science girl friend who was really in to me so she moved on to someone else
abandoned my friends after that too. its going to be a long year.

if all of college is gonna be this easy im down. math major, taking Linear, Graph theory and Diff Eq next semester. 3.64 gpa, best its ever been.

>>10227072
>couldn't determine the probability of getting an 85 or better
>couldn't make it approach 1
Oofa

>>10227072
I once took a whole week to study for one exam, then on the day of the final I decided it wasn't enough and took another week and took the final on the next week. Two weeks of hard studying resulted in an A while if I took the final the first time I would've surely failed it hard.
BTW "hard study" means only focusing on one subject, I was careful to take a break hourly, a whole hour for lunch and dinner and a good night sleep. You don't learn shit if you are tired, no matter how hard you go at it.

>>10227120
your school lets you defer exams?
>>10227082
I don't think I learned how to do that in my class.

>>10226056
4.0 cgpa
undergrad was so easy

>>10227166
What country?

>>10227168
india

>>10227012
i might go there for grad school.

>>10227188
How impressive is 4.0 in india?

>>10227120
Yes, we have several times for exams, usually once a week per class, sometimes twice. Calc and lin alg is usually tuesdays and thursdays, chem is tuesday, specialization classes are monday/wednesday/friday. You have 5 weeks for the exams plus one week before for "pre-exams" with the first two weeks available to repeat labs and finish assignment grades before colloquium (exams)
You can defer exams but you will only limit yourself if you take it too far or pile on exams. Most freshman students fail because they have 2-3 exams a day at the end of the exam period.

>>10227222
meant to quote >>10227162

>>10226078
>>10226262
You wish, brainlets.
>>10226602
>specialization classes
I started those in my second semester. That's not how math works. If you do average in beginning proof classes, you'll do average or worse in anything later on. I found those classes trivial and many of the specialized classes to be fun and interesting, and at times a bit challenging. But I'm also not a fucking moron so I study and work for long hours to understand everything even if it's tough. Stuff like PDEs, dyn systems, functional analysis, recursion theory. Most of my "specialized" experience is in analysis and logic.

>>10227076
Sorry, how is it weird to be flexing my academic success? Stop spouting that normie meme at everything.

I expected to fail Calc III and came out with a B

>>10227357
Pre-Calc is the worst, followed by Calc II. Some of the ways they teach lower maths is also highly disgusting. I personally can't blame people who complain about lower math education.

>>10227377
It was mainly due to poor attendance, I had a great prof

4.0, got 4.0 last semester and plan to keep it up this coming semester too.

>the MINIMUM gpa of those considered for an interview [to medical school] was 7
JUST

>>10227407
>7
What?

>>10227407
>7
Whatever third world shithole you occupy, it is for certain not one you should be bragging about on a forum for science and math.

>>10227418
>>10227427
lmaoing @ grade-inflated yanks

>>10226101
I fucking hate chem and i think it's hard, but I'm doing very well in it, it's my first semester and I'm expecting an A in it lol like in my second i just wanted to pass but i got 28.24/30

Meanwhile i got 7.5/30 at physics SOMETHING I UNDERSTAND AND ACTUALLY LIKE

>>10227432
if you demand actual percentages sure.
101.3%
96.4%
96.1%
98.6%

>>10227459
>inb4 4 classes
I get my education paid for by the government based on a monthly amount so taking the minimum to get that amount is my ideal financial decision.

>>10227189
3.0 in so-cal

idk what you meant by that comment, are there a lot of indians in texas?

>>10226056
All As, but didn't get a publishable paper, so I still feel like a failure

>>10227464
which gov? why don't you want to begin your career ASAP? you do realize it'll be better for you in the long run, right?

>>10227547
Indians are literally invading Texas.

>>10227576
lol they've always been there.

>>10227547
He responded to the wrong user.

He meant to respond to this one:
>>10227166
>>10227175

>>10227342
larp even harder lmao

>>10227636
whatever helps you to sleep at night, kiddo ;)
i'll just continue getting A+'s in upper level and graduate classes!

>>10227646
>tfw get paid $135K a year as a programmer
>never set foot in college

go back to study, brainlet.

i gragitated today

>>10226056
Terrible. failed a class for the first time. i'm not even mad, or angry, just dissapointed

>>10227660
>codemonkey trying to tell me his wagie wagie good boy points make him any less inferior
sorry anon i'm an artist and a scientist, an explorer and a passionate lover. that is, i'm a pure mathematician.

>>10227749
burger with fries and a large cola, please

>>10227574
>caring about any wages above 50K a year
I never had any interest in living in anything other than a trailer. I have no real aspirations and I have determined that living in such simple conditions is my desire in life. my health record has me dying at around 55-65 depending on how lucky I get so why bother trying to save up money for retirement.

>>10226056
>C, C-, D+, B-, A, C-
final year of my BE and I already have a job lined up so idgaf about my exams

>>10227788
Lol! Ebin post! They would fire you and hire me in your place in a heartbeat, since I'm already more qualified than you (a brainlet with no theoretical understanding of computers). You should thank me! Hahaha!

>>10227973
A sperg with no techincal training or expereince who no one wants to work with*

>>10227986
>technical "experience"
>"""training"""
>implying it isn't all trivial stuff i could figure out on the fly
You're actually joking right? I'm literally being given a degree in difficult problem solving. I think I can handle the pwobwems with a computer.

>>10226056
Why are US grades so inflated? Here a 65% means you are 1% top of the class.

>>10227997
Why does not knowing how to do 35% of the shit on your exam earn you a degree? Have you considered that you're just stupid?

>>10227996
Typical response from a retarded undergraduate. If you do ever decide to enter the workforce after the realisation that you'll never contribute anything nontrivial to academia, you're going to be in shock when noone cares about your pwecious degwee and your 4.00 gpa. Of course we all know you're a larping homosexual.

>>10228003
Yeah, thats why abroads students from universities like South Carolina struggle to get even 40% and they are gifted a passing grade so they dont complain at home, its because I am stupid.

Also it doesnt mean you dont know t hat 35%, it means you dont know the material perfectly, most exams are 1 or 2 questions, so you are always prone to errors in big questions. I forgot amerimutts only do multiple choices questions.

>>10226072
based larp

>>10228008
Oh, sounds good! I'm sure they'll care way more about my khan academy account. Lol. How do you think people get their first job at google? They won't even look at someone without a degree.
Of course, this is irrelevant since I'm also majoring in CS as a side project. It's actually horrific how easy it all is, and my school has the toughest CS degree in the country hands down. Man, you people really are dumb. I'd be humiliated if I were you.
Since I actually know what I'm talking about, I know that CS is a strict subset of freshman level uni math. Since you're larping on an anime imageboard, you probably would never have guessed that. Too bad hun, it's true.

>>10227345
Surprised this post wasn't accompanied by a japanese cartoon image

>>10228012
What?! That's ridiculous. Math exams in america typically have 3-7 proof-based questions (if less, then they'll have a few parts or will take a while). Sounds like your "exams" are not comprehensive or well-designed if you're losing that many points for making small mistakes in a few large questions. Small mistakes do not indicate a lack of understanding.

>>10228022
We're on a japanese cartoon website. I don't even like anime, but I'm not the one seething about board culture, am I?

>>10228019
>Job at google
Anon....

>>10228019
You messed it up with that last post bud. Try harder next time

>>10228031
>>10228035
Woah, now these posts are hilarious. What, do you want me to apply for jobs which won't ask me to think and engage in modern research? Sure, I'll go make fucking websites for flower nurseries like you lot. That sounds fulfilling.

>>10227071
He’s probably taking gen ed prereqs - lot of US unis like to waste our time

>>10226072
>has to work hard for As
Never gonna make it, even at a top school.

>>10226072
silly because grades don't mean much, you're just doing what schools asks of you, perhaps even winning some competitions, but what about creativity? What about being autonomous and seeking knowledge for its own sake, for truth and for beauty and not to be on the top nor to win nor for your future?

>>10228447
Grades are the only source happiness in my life. Please stop downplaying their importance

>>10227342
>dyn systems
>letter grades
You'll dox yourself, buddy.

>>10226056
kek u gotta be kiddin

>>10226072
>>10226056
>>10226998
>american bragging

>>10226056
Kicked out

I have a 3.97 GPA in engineering at Purdue. I have 30 more credits to go until graduation. What are my odds of getting into MIT or Caltech if I keep it up? I have experience as a TA and two different research projects I worked on.

>>10228121
holy shit how is murica not considered a shit-tier country? im in biochemistry and i only have advanced english (bcause its not a first language) math biology and chemistry

>>10226072
This should become a copy pasta

>>10227660
How long have you been working? How did you "get your foot in the door" for your first relevant job without a degree? Which company do you work for?

>>10229433
Depends on professor recs and which graduate program you're applying to, but you look good.

>>10231068
I'm 2nd year biochem as well (burger). The first two years are usually tons of liberal arts classes. (1/4 of our credits are liberal arts).

>>10231446
I'll add that I've actually been in college for 3 years, but I'm still a 2nd year thanks to how many lib arts we have to take...I still haven't even taken my two required ethnic diversity classes.

>>10226101
How hard is it to convert units of measurement?

>>10231455
>I'll add that I've actually been in college for 3 years, but I'm still a 2nd year thanks to how many lib arts we have to take...I still haven't even taken my two required ethnic diversity classes.
that means you didnt take the proper amount of credits per semester. that's on you.
t. biochem major who graduated in 3 years instead of 4

>>10226095

might want to work a little harder there anon

I have exams in genuary, i have to sit analysis 1, linear algebra and programming 1

>>10231528
january*

>>10231532
>>10231528
How do you like your first semester so far? Do you think uni life is for you? Did you find a good balance between studying and going out with friends?

>>10226056
I PASSED EVERYTHING!!! THE HARDEST SEMESTER OF MY LIFE IS OVER!!!

>>10231701
Nice job, let's drink a beer on that, anon

>>10231774
Hell yeah brother

>>10226056
i broke down, drank myself to sleep, almost punched a hole in my wall, and dropped out with a semester left to go.
i failed.

>>10231446
>Ethic (((Diversity)))
Gross

>>10231780
You'll do better next time, bro

>>10231864
not sure if i'm going to go back to uni again for a next time

>>10231971
can't you repeat the semester next year?

>>10231976
i could, but i'm also a mentally unstable shit
nothing will be different the second time around. whatever drove me to snap this semester isn't going away magically next time

>>10226056
>First ever A average!
Congratulations! I am sincerely happy for you.

>>10231780
How were your grades at that point? Were they still passing, but you just dropped out for other reasons?

>>10233344
3.3 gpa not including this semester. Not great but at least it's passing.
Mental health and grades rapidly slipped over the semester. I can't stop thinking about how hopeless everything is now.

>>10233222
Get a mcydee job for a few months, earn some money and blow off some steam buy a laptop or something. If you feel productive and successful you will snap out of it quickly
And next time you attend every single lectures and practices, sit in front and will tell the prof if you don't understand something.

>>10233537
that's what's probably going to happen
i don't even want money i just want validation

>>10234319
It is much better when your validation is delicious and/or feels nice when you wear it or play with it. Just make sure you worked for it 100% and it will be great.

>>10233341
Thank you! Too bad it is my last semester, going to miss the old alma mater

First semester managed to wipe all my enthusiasm, hopes and dreams.
Started as a grade A math student so I thought I don't need to attend lectures. First of many mistakes

>>10236283
Go to class dumbass

>>10236317
B-but it's boring

>>10236338
You know what else is boring? Working a minimum wage job at McDonald's since you were too lazy to apply yourself.

>>10228026
>>10228012
>>10228003
Chill out you autists its literally just a different grading scale to curve to.

>>10231068
Its just different teaching philosophies, and it varies by uni here. Basically they want you to not just be a single minded drone that only knows math shit, they want you to be able to speak competently on a wider variety of subjects and be a more interesting person as a result which helps in life. I think only Brown doesn’t have any sort of requirement you take a class outside your major.

4.0, brought my grade up to a 3.84 after 80 credit hours. 3.93 institutional but it's being dragged downed by my 3.63 CC classes I took while in HS :/ .
Trying to hopefully transfer to Emory in the fall of next year for some nice research opportunities, but I'm fairly worried if I even have a chance at getting in.

>>10236677
>points held from HS
What kind of shit country do you live in? Why would a kid's mistakes would apply to an adult?

>>10236677
I understood fuckall of what you said. What kind of retarded system is that?

>>10236887
>>10236914
I live in the US, there's been this program called "Dual-enrollment" where highschool students can choose to take college classes and high school classes at the same time to try and get a credit edge while still in HS. I did it my junior and senior year full time just to get away from my school and reform myself, but I ended up getting a few B's along the way in some core classes unrelated to my major early on like a dumbass.
It shows permanently on your college/uni transcripts since schools want to see all college coursework you've done. Which is what makes it a bit risky.

>>10226056
A Intro to Political Science
A- Intro to Law
A- Intro to Economics
B+ Calc 1
B- Intro to Accounting

1.6 Here.

Terrible. Down to a 2.9 overall and 2.91 in major. EE is suffering. I'm taking a lot of easy A course that I hope will bring me up.

>>10226056
Studying Physics, my lazy ass passed only 1/2 of first year’s classes(the physics stuff basically) and i didn’t study enough to pass this most of this semester’s classes. Problem is that the math classes feel so boring to study since the physics classes use really basic math so far. Please someone relate

>>10237495
where are you from?

>>10237505
Greece

>>10237505
P.S. The universities here work nothing like yours and most look like a post apocalyptic communist outpost

>>10237495
Math is the most basic tool for your work. You sound more like a brainlet to me, just give up physics and go for something more fitting for you. Arts for example.

My semester is going pretty well! I started studying computer science last year, but I started with maths this year because I decided I wanted to do a double degree program.
Also I have fallen in love with real analysis

>>10237772
I'm from Brazil, maybe there's something in common.
But i do relate, as an economics student I didn't pass calculus 1 in my first semester and that delayed nearly half of my degree by one semester (Micro, macroeconomics and econometrics all require calculus here)
You can catch up

Any UK fags here?

I've only done two modules so far this semester in Biochem/Molbio and Microbio/CellBio (but they worth 30 credits each). So far I got 72% and 84% average for them respectively, but I'm anxious that my exams in January will fuck that all up since they're worth 60% of the module.

>>10237387
You can turn it around anon, I believe in you.

>>10229222
This.

Failed all three classes.

>>10238134
What classes were those and what major?
Was this your first semester?

>>10237995
You have your 60's in January? Damn that's an entire module in a semester, I hope that they are half credit ones?

You best be revising, the grades you have got, arethey from exams or coursework?

>>10238776
>I hope that they are half credit ones?
Nope, they are both double credit modules unfortunately. I will have half credit modules next semester though.

>the grades you have got, arethey from exams or coursework?
Mostly coursework (i.e. lab work & essays) and some short tests on statistics of biological data.

>>10239154
You will wanna study pretty hard Bro, exams are always what catch students out. Most of my class will do well in coursework with everyone looking like a first class student in the first semester but as soon as January exams roll around they drop to 50-60's.

>>10237829
thats what im saying man. The math i use in physics so far (Electromagnetism, Thermodynamics etc) all familiar to me and im good at. The math i learn tho are not to be seen in any of these subjects, therefore making then rather boring to study on their own

>>10239194
If all you needed was basic math then all you learned so far is basic physics. You will need the more advanced functions later on.

>>10239191
Yeah I figured as much, the material itself isn't too difficult but there is a fuckton to learn - makes me wonder how I'm gonna get this all in my head in 15 days.

Out of curiosity, are you also doing bio or a different a subject?

>>10239251
Chemistry my dude so not quite as much to remember as you but need to work through more problems I guess? Just get on some past papers and work through your textbook problems you have answers for (if your lecturers have recommended any reading chances are the exam questions are just coming out of that book)

>>10231597
Yes i think that i have found a good balance, because I'm not really a person that likes to party and things like that. Also i'm liking the material that I'm studying, even if i get anxious and paranoid quite frequently and sometimes i get worried about my mental health, but it's my fault because i'm a bitch. If i could go back i would still choose this

>>10239319
It is okay if you get a few panic attacks during crunch time study, it means your brain is adapting at its hardest. It is only bad if the attacks remain and or get worse, best thing to do is remind you that no matter what happens the world will go on, and take walks in the best daylight, go out get some groceries, sit down in a cafe to drink an espresso or a tea, read printed news and just relax a bit. You will get back to your studies at a much better performance. Also don't skip on your night sleep, get rested or else you won't be able to process anything and you only waste your time.
Getting calm and rested is key to good studying. I followed this route and while I had trouble recalling anything right before the exam, when I sat down and looked at the questions I just wrote the answers routinely. Many smugness ensued afterwards :3

>>10239361
Thanks i needed this. This evening i will definitely take a pause and go for a walk. j