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Britain, France, Germany and Italy were responsible for the majority of all innovation in human history before the downfall of Europe after the world wars. It is said that human intelligence in Britain peaked during the Victorian era.
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/were-the-victorians-smarter-than-us.pdf

What do you think about this?

There are 3 major factors that lead to a lowering of the national average intelligence among all countries that are relevant to human progress.
>mass immigration of unintelligent ethnicities
>greatly reduced natural selection due to huge gains in prosperity and medicine
>massive forced redistribution of ressources in wellfare states that incentivize unintelligent people to beget children

Dysgenics, in particular the lowering of average intelligence, could be by far the worst crisis mankind has ever faced. Not only does it have devastating effects on economic and technological development, it could lead to complete destabilization and disintegration of the pillars of human innovation: white majority countries, ashkenazi jews and to a smaller degree east asians.

The obvious solutions are artificial intelligence and genetic modification but neither seems to be available any time soon.

Is this the answer to the Fermi paradox?

Intelligence declines, society falls apart before we develop autonomous intelligent machines, easily accessible ressources are already used up so mankind gets no second chance, mankind will go extinct without ever leaving this solar system.

>> No.10225761

>>10225756
because most of the new people are Africans /thread

>> No.10225763

>>10225761
How about you actually try to read my post?

>> No.10225766

It's weird when copypasta is scientifically wrong, just because science got better.

>> No.10225767

>>10225763
nah reading is hard because im a nigger

>> No.10225794

>>10225756
your graph starts in 1950 but at that point and for a couple decades later there was barely any welfare or mass immigration tho

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>>10225756
>welfare state
This and only this

Immigrants come because of welfare. "Prosperity" is propped up by consumers on welfare. Medicine keeps plebs on welfare alive longer than they should be.

Left wing liberal agendas have destroyed the human race

>> No.10225849

>>10225756
IQ is increasing in developed countries that are having "mass immigration" and are generally "welfare states".

Check graphs and stats for counties specifically not the whole world.

>> No.10225878

>>10225849
the social form of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. thats what you are.

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>>10225756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjuBRaLYWnA
https://phys.org/news/2011-01-religiosity-gene-dominate-society.html
https://futurism.com/genetic-idiocracy-genes-associated-with-high-education-are-becoming-rarer/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/cochran-harpending-paper-on-amish/
https://www.unz.com/jman/liberalism-hbd-population-and-solutions-for-the-future/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/stupid-people/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/short-history-of-3rd-millennium/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/not-sending-their-best/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/nor-breeding-their-best/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/paper-review-icelandic-dysgenics/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/dysgenic-deutschland/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/cicerone-on-dysgenic-decline/
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/frito-effect/

>> No.10225897

>>10225756
'Incentivize' is a helluva ugly motherfucking word.

>> No.10226004

>>10225756
Most of Europe's greatest scientific achievements are thanks to Jews. (General Relativity)

Europe's scientific progress declined once most of the Jewish population was gone.

The average European is an absolute dumbfuck compared to the average Ashkenazi Jew.

>> No.10226014

>>10225849
No, its not at all. In norway, Britain and other northern european states its falling and has been falling for decades. Flynn Effect has stopped in most of the West for almost 30 years.

>> No.10226021

>>10225756
>before the downfall of Europe after the world wars
What do you mean? They’re top contributors to scientific research: https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php..

>> No.10226040

>>10226004
> Most of Europe's greatest scientific achievements are thanks to Jews.
> The average European is an absolute dumbfuck compared to the average Ashkenazi Jew.

Imagine believing this.

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>>10225756
>human intelligence in Britain peaked during the Victorian era
I find that unlikely but it's ultimately unfalsifiable hypothesising. Ultimately the mass of overall intelligence today must be much larger even if it could be determined to be relatively concentrated more.
Also you seem to be assuming birth rates are determined just by access to more resources (they're not) and that there's enough of a substantial difference of intelligence amongst ethnicities but the native British aren't particularly even that bright. War did a lot more to kill off good genetic stock than anything else in recent history.
The biggest negative impact on intelligence is technology, video games are making kids stupider than anything else.

>> No.10226053

>>10226041
> Native British aren't particularly even that bright.

They absolutely dominate the list of human innovation since the year circa 1500. If not bright, then who is?

>> No.10226058

>>10225756
>The obvious solutions are artificial intelligence and genetic modification but neither seems to be available any time soon.
Eugenics is easy as shit and any third grader would be smart enough to learn how it works. Too bad it's (((socially unacceptable)))

>> No.10226060

>>10226053

Per capita, it's definitely the Jews. A fraction of a percent of the population yet make up something like 20 or 25 percent of all the Nobel prize winners.

>> No.10226063

>>10225878
Oh look, another Moshe

>> No.10226066

>>10226004
>Most of Europe's greatest scientific achievements are thanks to Jews. (General Relativity)
Except their not and you’re a kike I’d wager.

>Europe's scientific progress declined once most of the Jewish population was gone.
Citation needed.

>The average European is an absolute dumbfuck compared to the average Ashkenazi Jew.
Further proof ur a kike

>> No.10226080

>>10226060

Nobel Prizes are awarded by the discretion of a committee. If you knew anything about Jewish nepotism, you should now know as why they make 25% of Nobel prize winners. I have seen such nepotism first hand with my own eyes, in regards with a book award. I was absolutely astounded that the entire panel was Jewish, the newspaper in which the book was touted as a "magical work of comedy" was written by a Jewish columnist, and the recipient of the award was - of course - Jewish. It is utterly hilarious when you see what they do. They will together glorify their most depraved work and scoff as if they are innocent when people like me expose their filth.

>> No.10226084

>>10226080
Yeah. Not him, but I think we can agree they are both genetically inteligent *and* tribal. Their nepotism is seriously ridiculous.

>> No.10226592

It's happening because welfare and women rights/affirmative action are making women less dependant on providers, so sexual selection shifts to "sexy" men which unique goal is to be a good lover to the female, given that all providing needs are satisfied by governments.

>> No.10227516

>>10225794
I wrote the OP on its own and only then searched for a somewhat fitting picture.
>>greatly reduced natural selection due to huge gains in prosperity and medicine

>> No.10227571

I've worried similarly about individuals of lesser intelligence "outbreeding" the educated/intelligent. But to a certain extent, is that not how it always has been?

Even in the Victorian times, I'm guessing that the peasants were outbreeding the intellectuals and educated elite by several degrees of magnitude.
And not long before that, survival mainly depended on brute strength. Do you really think natural selection would have favored the autist making cave paintings, over the chad caveman who was out hunting animals and fucking everything in sight?

I think that as poverty is reduced and education is expanded, we'll see a gradual, continued global net rise in IQ (many stats already show this). Look at any country, of any race/ethnicity, that's experienced rapid development, and you'll see a spike in mean IQ.

European countries were in kind of a bubble, and recent massive immigration has dragged IQ down. I know this is 4chan but I think you're putting too much weight on ethnicity. I think there are definitely factors that skew IQ to be slightly lower in certain races/ethnicities, but I doubt it's more than a few points. And at that point I question whether it even matters, in practical terms. I know a hell of a lot of people with IQs well below my own who are arguably "smarter" than myself.

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>>10226060

>> No.10227590

>>10226053
Yes because they got a head start. Expect a lot more geniuses coming from Nigeria or India in the future.

>> No.10227638

>>10226053
Because it's their upper class and nouveau riches that did that. Britain is an extremely class divided society and their colonies often were shaped to replicate that class divide (and amplified it by adding race to it).

>> No.10227659

people who have 12+ fucking children usually do so to support their sustenance farming. they are brainlets and as such their children will be.

>> No.10229167

>>10227590
>Expect a lot more geniuses coming from Nigeria or India in the future.
On what do you base this claim? Their combined population is already much larger than that of Europe and NA combined yet their scientific contribution is smaller than that of say Switzerland.

>> No.10229448

>>10225756
is not a problem because genetic engineering will become a thing.

>> No.10229946

>>10229448
Yeah but when? We are nowhere close and even once we have the technology it could take many decades to settle in. It could be too late by then.

>> No.10230037

I suppose it is up to the Chicanos to save humanity.
EVERY CHI STAND UP
>>10229946
40 years tops. The Chinese government don't give a fuck about ethics if it means they are the first to develop it.

>> No.10230041

>>10225756
Degeneration theory was disproven in the 1800s. Try harder OP.

>> No.10230073

>>10230041
>Degeneration theory
ya cuz you are most definitely not the product of generations of degeneration.

you're not a sleazy ambulance chasing political hack, not at all.

>> No.10230097

>>10230041
No it was not at any point disproven.
>>10227572
completely untrue, a simple wikipedia search proves her wrong. why would you believe someone posting on a blog?

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>>10225756

If we could only figure out why IQ is decreasing?
What has changed about the people in Europe?
Hmmm.. we may never know!

>> No.10230187 [DELETED] 

>>10229946
there's a subreddit for people like you: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse
go there and get off 4chan until you get tired of it

>> No.10231649

>>10230187
Don't shit up my thread.

>> No.10232518

>>10231649
there's a subreddit for people like you: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse
go there and get off 4chan until you get tired of it

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>>10230116
>World IQ over time
brilliant source

>> No.10232757

>>10232518
there's a website for people like you: https://gapeproanal.org/uberfaggot
go there and get off 4chan until you get tired of it

>> No.10232805

>>10225756
ITT: OP writes checks his links can't cash.