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10223987 No.10223987 [Reply] [Original]

So where was the soo called graphene revolution that was suppose to be plastics 2.0? Or was it just one big meme?

>> No.10223994

>>10223987
Still ongoing, it's actually still a very active area of chemical engineering research.

>> No.10224002

It's a meme. It's great for getting research grants and not much else at the moment.

>> No.10224008

>>10223987
If nobody can make Money of it, dont expect it to hit the mainstream.

>> No.10224031
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Supposedly there is no good way yet to make large quantities of the stuff. Until a method comes about, you won't hear much about it. It would be insanely revolutionary in multiple fields if it became cheap to make.

>> No.10224048

>>10223987
In general nanomaterials are difficult to make, especially covalently bonded ones. It's difficult to make uniform sheets of graphene. It's difficult to use as a semiconductor because it's 2d. Traditional approaches to doping don't work. Graphene can be really strong if it's atomically fucking perfect and uniform. Again this is nigh impossible to do

>> No.10225649

>>10223987
>one big meme
Lrn2meme fgt pls

>> No.10225727
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>>10224048
>It's difficult to use as a semiconductor because it's 2d

>> No.10225948

The notorious thing about development in Science is that it tends towards a god damn long time. Any field

>> No.10225966

>>10223987
I have some for heat transfer.

>> No.10225967
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University of Manchester secured a shit ton of funding from the Graphene meme

get gud proposal plebs

>> No.10226007

>>10223987

If you work in engineering you're already using it. It just hasn't filtered down to consumer products yet.

>> No.10226039

>>10226007
what are engis using it for?

>> No.10226052

>>10223987
Making it is a pain in the ass, and is expensive as fuck to boot

>> No.10226092

>>10226039
blowjobs

>> No.10226371

>>10224031
What the fuck is this a picture of

>> No.10226434

>>10226039

It's commonly found all over aerospace, especially in things like rocket motor casings.

>> No.10227011

>>10226371
PAGEOS
a glorified weather balloon

>> No.10227026

>>10223987
When somebody claims something is going to be a revolution, just remind yourself that in the 80's people thought we would have flying cars.

>> No.10227098

Okay fucj it.

Is it acceptable to talk to the faculty head over shit like this?

>> No.10227145

>>10227026
Well we might still. The reason we don't yet is cause it requires drone technology (rather than cheap planes) as well as self driving car tech.

>> No.10227160

>>10227026
Well, when you are going to use that argument remind yourself that flying cars are a fucking retarded idea.
Graphene is still meme for now though.

>> No.10227214

>>10227011
Wrong. The worlds largest ball bearing

>> No.10227416

>>10227214
Yes, for the weelchair bearings of your fat mom.

>> No.10228654

>>10225727
It's difficult to interface metal to graphene because graphene is 2d. The interface has high resistance.
>>10223987
Almost forgot, graphene has no bandgap, this means that while you can make really fast transistors using graphene, they have very high leakage currents. This makes them unsuitable for use in computers. Really this is the biggest reason why graphene is a a huge meme.

>> No.10228750

>>10223987
>The media doesn't talk about it so it was a meme
yeah OP, continue believing in that

>> No.10230148

>>10226434

that's carbon fibre not graphene.

>> No.10230151

>>10226371
It's for the world's largest pachinko machine

>> No.10230233

>>10223987
Don't you worry, it will come around sooner or later. Shit has just too much appliances that overclass currently used materials. I'm currently finishing my thesis about graphene supercapacitors, and I truly believe they will become next gen batteries.

>> No.10230253

>>10223987
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3114

>> No.10230492

>>10227026
we DO have flying cars
as it turns out, they're just fucking worthless

>> No.10230995

>>10223987
It takes easily decades from discovery in a laboratory to products in shops. For medicine it is easily 15 - 30 years. In this case integration is the hard part.

>> No.10230998

>>10226371
Look up ECHO, the satellite.

>> No.10231002

>>10227026 >>>10227145 >>10227160 >>10230492
Flying cars were in the 60's expected to be the norm in the 2000's. It is coming now, look up Ehang 184. A lot of aerospace companies are researching this now. In the future we need less roads but more parking spaces. And you sex bot will double as your pilot. The future is so bright you gotta wear shades.

>> No.10231003

>>10223987
It's probably still in the phase where they are using it for top secret stuff because it's so amazing, and after that phase it'll trickle down from the ivory tower.

>> No.10231088

>>10230233
spill it

>> No.10231461
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>>10223987
OP, you need to come to grips with how, "grant chasing," is done. Promise the world, get the money, stretch out the results over your entire life time so you don't need to do anything really difficult. When asked for results, ask for more money and more staff, show investors charts. The content of the charts doesn't matter, they just need to see something is being done with their money.

>> No.10231633

>>10226371
the Orb

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10231647

>>10223987
if it doesn't make profit it won't ever get mainstream
boy I love capitalism

>> No.10232002

>>10231461
Are you a scientist? When I was a post doc the norm was to spend 30% of your time applying for grants. That still didn't always work out well. My field dried up and I went to industry where I discovered the concept of "disposable income" which I am not yet quite accustomed to.

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>>10231647

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>>10225967
details pls

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>>10231647
I legitimately got dumber from reading this post