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10186810 No.10186810 [Reply] [Original]

How do I cope with having a below 3.0 gpa? I didn't fail any of my classes I just have a lot of C's

>> No.10186818

What major? Average gpa for math and Chem is sub 3.0.

>> No.10186824
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>>10186810

>> No.10186825

>>10186818

mechanical engineering

>> No.10186837

>>10186825
What are your goals? If you just want a job, I wouldn't worry about it honestly. I know the job market is competitive etc. But you can probably still find something. My dad graduated with a miserable gpa in Mech E and went on to work for a fairly prestigious company and have a great career. If grad school you need to figure something out

>> No.10187391

>>10186837
How might I add? What did your dad leverage against his low gpa?

>> No.10187393

>>10186837
>>10187391
>my boomer father did the thing and so the conditions are the same for you friend
if I was you OP I would be at least a little perturbed

>> No.10187395

>>10186810
how bad is it? mine is a 2.97 with 2 sem left, i should get it above 3.0

>> No.10187398

Year three EE here. Never gotten a C. What’s it like?

>> No.10187403

>>10186810
i got into pharmacy school with a 2.87

>> No.10187413

>>10186825
Lol

>> No.10187432

>>10187403
literally how.
Actually curious because I am a 3.0 who wants to go into medicine as well.

>> No.10187464

I have a 2.65 GPA and am a computer science major. How fucked am I?

>> No.10187467

>>10187464
Do you have a portfolio at all?

>> No.10187474

4.0 cybersecurity student, about to be a 3.9 after this database class though. Oh well only one semester left. OP become a civil engineer :^)

>> No.10187490

>>10187464
Not at all, you fuckers moonwalk into your first job.

>> No.10187896

I always tell myself that I’ll just become a rapper or start producing and selling research chemicals to make a living

>> No.10187903

>>10186810
What the fuck is this Gen-Z meme/idiocy with 1-4 GPAs? why can'y you fucking zoomers work with the 1-10 system like a normal person?

>> No.10187908

>>10187903
>1-10
I'm missing something here

>> No.10187909

>>10187903
Colleges don’t use that

>> No.10187913 [DELETED] 

I have a general associates degree and a 4.0
will companies want me or do I need a specific major?

>> No.10187942

>>10187908
>>10187909

He probably doesn't live in the U.S.

>> No.10187945

how do you cope with having a shitty eastern yuro degree that's not even from an university course
>>10187464
just make some random crap, put it on github, make sure the activity calendar is green and you're good to go :^)

>> No.10187950

>>10186810
PDE's fucked me up, went from 3.3 to 2.6

>> No.10187956

>>10187432
>PharmD
>medicine
pick one

>> No.10187994

Whats the problem with C's? They're good grades. Does the US really have that big of a problem with grade inflation? Less than 20% get A's or B's here.

>> No.10188007

>>10187994

C means average. It means you only have bare minimum knowledge of the class. If you are planning on getting a PhD or Master's degree, then C's probably won't look good

>> No.10188012

>>10188007
>c = bare minimum
>d exists

>> No.10188033

>>10188012
C is practically failing in USA.

>> No.10188037

>>10186810
Study to your tests, remeber the subject matter, if you still get Cs report your teachers.

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>>10186810
Anons, I'm in big trouble in my Quantum Mechanics class. I did very poorly on the two midterms and am failing the class now. I'm intending to go speak to my professor today, but was just thinking of asking questions about the material today and then on Thursday asking about my grade so I don't seem like a grade grubber.

Any tips on how to approach this? This is the first time I've done so abysmally. Should I propose for him to just fail me if I score below a 75% on the Final and use whatever is my raw score as my score in the class/exam section?

Would really appreciate any input on how to make sure I pass this class anons

>> No.10188064

>>10188047
>Only speaking to your professor after you've failed two exams
Here's me in my foundation of engineering demanding as much of my professors time as possible to drag me through because I don't have a background in maths. Best thing is literally no-one else asks for help. Go see your professor anon. Speak to everyone you can.

>> No.10188065

>>10188033

I would consider C to be "failing" in humanities classes like history or English. But I wouldn't consider it to be failing in STEM classes, where around half of the class will probably either withdraw or get a D/F.

>> No.10188074

>>10187391
Him being a boomer is probably part of it. This was 1977 and he went to a job fair and his boss knew his gpa was bad, but liked him and basically hired him on the spot...

It's kind of depressing I suppose, but I was trying to give you some hope. I just don't know how things got so bad in this day and age.

>> No.10188099

>>10188047
>>10188064
I understand anon and I'm doing that. First one I blew off, because I had a time conflict which didn't let me study for it much. Second exam I just studied wrong material (to be fair there were many kids like me, since he didn't tell us what he'd be testing us on). How do i approach him this late though anon?

>> No.10188110

>>10188099
>Are you available any time soon? I need some help with the current material

Remember that you're literally paying this guy to teach you, anon

>> No.10188119

>>10188065
I need you to get a job on a med school admissions board as soon as possible. You have the right attitude

>> No.10188120

2.7-2.9 is the average GPA for most STEM majors. Even the average GPA at MIT barely scrapes 3.0

>> No.10188123

>Have 3 bachelors degrees, EE, Comp sci, Physics
>All 3 done at same time while i was an alcoholic
>2.2 GPA EE
>2.2 GPA CS
>2.4 GPA Physics
>Right out of college get offer after applying for EE job with only EE degree listed, no GPA listed
>Second job working as adjunct faculty for physics dept in decent sized uni
>Third job right back to EE as startup
>Today working in CS field for defence contracts
I have never been asked about my GPA, nor have I been asked to prove I have degrees even (outside of EE), it's kind of a joke when you think about it.

>> No.10188147

>>10188119

Yeah, you obviously need grades higher than C for med school. My point is a C in a class like real analysis isn't as lazy as a C in a class like literature

>> No.10188167

>>10186825
I know a friend who is a mechanical engineer, 2.9GPA, landed a good job 70K starting, and lives in a low cost of living area. Grad school might be difficult to get into though.

>> No.10188171

>>10188147
You don't actually, I talked to some of the people who handle applications on the board of UW Seattle's medical school and they basically told me this:

>Higher chance regardless of GPA if underrepresented group, including trannies and the like (you can just lie and not dress up)
>Non-normal degrees are easier to get in, so long as it has some sort of biology/chemistry background in it. I was given the specific example of bioengineering, or biophysics.
>Being published in any semi-relatable field can completely offset a shit GPA down to even 2.0, regardless of the papers topic/usefulness/ingenuity

Obviously I'm not them so I don't know exactly how far the above goes, and it's been a few years but I assume it still holds true today.

>> No.10188225

>>10188171
I’m a physics major at a top 3 uni in unite states with a 3.0 GPA but 3 Papers already published and am a lab manager. Am I screwed to get into a top MD/PhD program? My professors think I’m bright but idk my grades are shit but I always work 20+ hours a week to support my family and myself through college

>> No.10188231

>>10186825
You are fucked. It took me a year and a half to get a shitty job with a 3.2, and that's with really good project experience.

>> No.10188237

>>10188110
I’m thinking of going to office hours, so I don’t need an individual time. How do I bring up passing the class though?

>> No.10188561

>>10188231
Do jobs care about your cumulative GPA or just your degree GPA?

I was a Physics major for the last two years and had a 2.2 gpa but switched to CS this year and currently have a 4.0 in my classes. Will employer even look at the Physics major GPA if I do well in my computer science courses?

>> No.10188757

>>10188561
Not mentioning it in your CV gives the message that you are confident about your abilities. Of course the rest of your CV has to give the message as well.
Companies don't really care about stupid scores and points, they care about actual abilities, problem solving ability and being able to work in a team. The last thing a company wants is a special snowflake with perfect scores who makes everyone hate him/her on the first day. An average GPA graduate with actual human skills is the perfect score for a company.
Those job descriptions should mention "no spaghetti" instead of the regular bullshit.

>> No.10188797

>>10188757
>Not mentioning it in your CV gives the message that you are confident about your abilities.

Wait so I shouldn't mention even my CS gpa when applying for a job? Won't they think I'm some retard with a 2.0 gpa then?

>> No.10188823

>>10188797
>Won't they think I'm some retard with a 2.0 gpa then?
Yes, but that's who they want to hire

>> No.10188830

>>10188797
If they ask specifically you can send it later.
Don't give the other half any grasp on any would be negativity. It is an important part in negotiations and your job later on and they will see you already learned this and will fuck up less shit. Another important point for you.
Again, actual human skills plays a more important role than your GPA.

>> No.10188832

>>10188797
Yes hiding gives the impression you've got something to hide
It doesn't come off right

>> No.10188837

>>10188832
I should say I giving advice for grad schools but you were talking about employment

>> No.10188846

>>10188832
I had a 2.2 gpa in two years of physics courses but currently have a 4.0 gpa in one year of CS courses. Should I mention my cumulative gpa or just my CS degree gpa?

>> No.10189117

>>10188846
Depends, if you are applying to graduate school they'll typically ask for your major and cumulative GPA. So they'll know you aren't retarded in the field you are applying for.

>> No.10189242

>>10189117
I'm only planning to get a bachelor's degree.

>> No.10189813

>>10187395
Yes, if you're thinking of grad school

>> No.10189841

>>10187432
For you, D.O. or risk everything and go Caribbean (but probably just give up)

>> No.10189845

>>10189841
What if I did like a 2 year master's and got really good grades in that? And did some research

>> No.10190571

>>10188123
Adjust faculty with a BS? Highly doubt that. Either you are lying or were teaching way back in the 60s/70s.

>> No.10190577

>>10188225
MD/PhD program? I'd say you are screwed, unless you were working under a Nobel Laureate. Typically those programs are looking for 3.4-3.5 minimum. Most candidates are applying with 3.7+ from top tier universities also. Unfortunately, you can apply and talk about obstacles/challenges, but they are not looking to give out charity.

>> No.10190581

>>10189845
I've seen a few people do that. I'm not entirely sure if you have to report your undergraduate GPA. But you'll definitely be reporting your graduate GPA, which if you're smart will be around 4.0 easily. You'll still have to take the MCAT and make sure you have your hospital volunteer hours in.

>> No.10190615

3.9 Engie here can i get into aerospace?

>> No.10191144

>>10190615
Sure, why not?

>> No.10191152

I got into medschool with a 2.2 GPA and a BS in biology. All you really have to do is check that you are an other for sexuality/gender and do something like black african + native american and the diversity aspect kicks in giving you equal stance with people who have 4.0's

It's disgusting but it's how I got in, doing fine now because I just cheat off my peers and if any of the older white staff questions me I just ask if it's because of my gender/sexual orientation and they quietly recede back to themselves

>> No.10191159

How do amerilards calculate GPA? In my country, whatever grade you get (say 87/100) is multiplied by the number of course credits. The sum of all your grades multiplied by course credits divided by the total number of credits is your GPA. I hear some countries do it different, if you get above a certain grade, it counts as a perfect score (4.0). Is this true?
I keep hearing about 4.0 GPAs on /sci/, the maximum in our department was about 3.6, the average was 3.0.

>> No.10191217

>>10191152
Where did you go to medical school? The Caribbean?

>> No.10191221
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>>10191152
Tranny Medics unironically specialise in Gender Reassignment Surgery

>> No.10191225

>>10188832
this
just admit it

>> No.10191229

>>10191152
Other people get into medicine when they're 18.

>> No.10191233

>>10191152
This is why biology degrees mean nothing. Because of you soulless premeds

>> No.10191324

>>10191217
Currently attending UW Washington

>>10191221
kek

>>10191233
Get over it, biology is dirt easy. If you choose to get a nonspecialized biology degree you're just asking to be a highschool teacher.

>> No.10191367

>>10191324
>Biology is easy
>Gets 2.2

>> No.10191372

>>10191367
>What is heavy drinking
>What is a social life
>What is c's get degrees
I spent no more than 2 hours a week on my classes and only showed up to the ones where attendance was mandatory.

>> No.10191381

>>10190581
Tbh, my GPA was more out of laziness. I was in a non-science major (social work) where grades mattered much less than experience. I skipped classes, I bullshitted assignments. Sure enough I got plenty of entry-level work as a social worker even with a 3.0 and I was in line to do an LMSW. But now after reading into medical research a lot more and becoming EMT certified I'm starting to like medicine a lot and am interested in a change of career. So essentially I would be a nontraditional applicant.

>> No.10191390

>>10191372
You're ruining tranny reputations even further

>> No.10191498

>>10191152
>I got into medscholl with a 2.2 GPA

This is literally impossible. You can't even get into D.O school with a 2.2 nevermind an M.D school.

>> No.10191521

>>10187432
>>10189845

If I was you I'd just study hard for the MCAT, get an 80th+ percentile grade, and then apply to a D.O school. You'd be making the same money and doing the same shit in the end, don't waste 2 more years and thousands in debt to get a masters.

>> No.10191566

>>10191521
I won't be in debt. I went to state school so my parents have enough money saved for me to do a (state) master's as well as med school.
I also do want to get involved in research. Like I said medicine is a new passion of mine but it is a strong one.

>> No.10192309

>>10187474
why is getting a civil job easy or something?

>> No.10192338

>>10188047
Just attend the class and do your best. I was nearly going berserk because in most of my classes kids were cheating in groups, TA's weren't responsive, the prof and book were shit, etc. Most of those classes I got Cs or Bs, though if you looked on paper the grades should've readily been D-F. Classes curve, and in some classes they curve A LOT, even with Asian students/cheaters running amok. It does help, talking to the prof or TA's in some cases, or asking/answering questions in classes.

I don't know if I can find the image, one of my classes was so bad a 35-45 was a D. In another class, the CLASS average on the final was probably 20-40%, quizzes 50% at the very most, but personally ended that class with a C.

>> No.10192362

>>10191159
That's how GPA's are normally calculated, but it gets weird because of curving. "Earned credit hours" is taken from the curved grade * class credit hours, and GPA is earned credit hours divided by attempted credit hours. That's the most consistent grading scheme I've seen. Curving is dependent on class. In my community college the professors were really good, tests were partially graded with usually best 4/5 sections (in physics) or you chose questions you wanted graded (say 10/12 on a Calc test). Extra credit existed, class participation existed, lots of things. There could be no curving and the grades you were getting represented your final grade closely. In Uni everything was dogshit, and a 50 could turn into a B+. I did have a few non-STEM profs that would consistently grade.

>in CC, Physics prof literally laughed in class because a test he gave had an average of 54, with a spread from 6 to 94, with students dotting all over the spread
Physics teacher permitted 1/3 big tests to be redone at the end of the year, and that semester was 2/3 because of that test. In uni we rarely had retests and just... I hated uni with a passion.

>> No.10192381

>>10192362
P.s. the calc teachers were menaces: if you circled a question you want graded, and didn't circle a question you ended up getting a higher point count on, they would give you the question you circled, except in the rare case of a very difficult test. Awareness of your competency and weaknesses is a necessary skill in mathematics!

>> No.10192435

>>10190577
I don't understand why MD/PhD make GPA so important? Isn't it all about research? My PI knows about my grades and has told me that he can get me into MIT through his colleagues (Nobel Prize winners) there for a PhD program. I honestly thought MD/PhD was very similar to this...I also took MCAT and scored a 525

>> No.10192450

>>10192435
>525
>Nobel Prize professors will take you into lab
>top 3 university

wtf are you doing on 4chan anon

>> No.10192469

>>10192435
>I don't understand why MD/PhD make GPA so important? Isn't it all about research?
Yes, but failure to get decent grades in undergraduate courses is a big red flag about your ability to succeed in graduate school.
If your track record shows you have a poor grasp of the foundational technical skills necessary for your field, who would have confidence that you will be able to do good research?

>> No.10192492

>>10186810
Seems to me you have two choices, OP:

1. Improve
2. Burger King

Choose wisely.

>> No.10192505

>>10192469
I suppose, but I've already published 3 times...I guess I'll just have to try to keep raising my GPA while I can - I'm also taking mostly grad classes too anon

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>>10192435 >>10192450
It's hard to imagine a 4chan anon getting into a world top 20 university. Let alone top 3.

Getting into a world top 400 PhD or MD program in a Meme State University still feasible though.

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>>10192492
1. Janitor
2. McDonald's

Or even better:
McDonald's Janitor

>> No.10193329

Easy. You just remember internships and side projects matter infinitely more than the URSMRT paper your university will give you.

BTW, you're not in a worthless, unemployment-guaranteed major, are you?

>> No.10193372

Honestly,I highly reccomend Mind Palaces, and other mnemonics. You can look these up on the art of memory website, for techniques and etc.

>> No.10193395

>>10186810
Do you have any research faggot?

>> No.10193401

>>10192884
I'm a PhD student at MIT (#1 in my field).

>> No.10193406

>>10188225
>I’m a physics major at a top 3 uni in unite states with a 3.0 GPA but 3 Papers already published and am a lab manager
>3 papers
>lab manager
I think you'll do ok

>> No.10193416

>top 20 school
>physics major (honors if that helps)
>3.73 gpa
>920 pgre
>meme unfinished thesis, meme research project, meme new project with another professor. no paper
>about to apply for phd
am I competitive for top grad schools

>> No.10193462

>>10188225
I'm sorry my guy, I don't want to shit on you because you sound similar to my situation. Except I had a 3.6 out of undergrad with good MCAT score, and only got 1 interview (at WUStL). It's SUPER FUCKING COMPETITIVE to get into a MD/PhD program. I have 3 pubs, with rec letter from a Nobel laureate and another rec from a tenured Harvard professor.

Good luck, though. It might be worth going into PhD first, then figuring out an in at the MD of that university down the road.

>> No.10193581

>>10186825
It literally doesn’t matter at all. Don’t mention it on your resume and no one will ask. Internships and work experience and a decent personality are so much more important than your GPA that they’re not even comparable.

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Brainlet here, why are GPAs out of 4 or 4.5 when courses are graded out of 100?

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On the topic of GPA...When companies say they require a GPA of at least 3.X they do realize that a 4.0 in business is a lot different than a 4.0 in math correct?

For instance; between two candidates if one has a 3.9 in business and the other has a 2.9 in Physics do they really not take into account how much harder it is to get a high GPA in STEM related subjects (considering the average gpa is typically below their required threshold?)

>> No.10193930

>>10193416
No, basically if you don't have a worthy research achievement that you can put in the SOP then save yourself the application fees.

I had better grades than you plus a research paper in a top quartile journal (mediocre) and got rejected from every top uni I applied to.

At one of them I even had a LoR from one of the professors there who had evaluated my work externally and was really impressed.

But apply anyway and see what happens if you can afford to.

>> No.10193932

>>10193922
They don't realize it no. They don't realize it because most of them have easy af degrees and HR people are so stupid they even think business was harder than their own degees.

It's all the same to them. They think you're a retard if you get below 3.5.

>> No.10193939

>>10187432
Some adcoms know which unis have grade inflation and which do not.

>> No.10193946

>>10188099
His office hours should be in the syllabus.

>>10188110
No he isn't you dumbass. The state/university pays him. Tuition goes to the department and it's heavily subsidized by the state.

No student is actually paying for anything at a uni, they are all just leeching from the state.

>> No.10193949

>>10188120
>Average

The problem is neither gradschools nor employers are looking for average when they have 1000 above average applicants vying for the same position.

>> No.10193955

Should I pick CS as my major
any cs fags here ?

>> No.10193957

>>10188225
Never trust what your professors are saying. Even if they are PhDs from MIT or other top 5.

Hell even if they're the HoD of the school you're applying to.

They all told me I was a genius and sure to get in blah blah and it was all bullshit.

Adcom doesn't care, they're either too political or they don't understand the quality of your publications to begin with. They either don't care about awards or measure their worth incorrectly. Professors in America have no influence over it.

>> No.10193979

>>10189845
>>10190581
>>10191521

I did a Masters because we have to in my country.

My M was a 4.0 equivalent for a research based degree plus a year coursework.

At first I hid my 2.9 bachelor transcripts, but after I was told I had to send them I was rejected. GREs were near perfect too. You really need that magic 3.0 I think.

>> No.10194159

>GPA go from 4 to 0
>Grades in my country go from 1 to 6
>a 4.0 GPA is the equivalent of a 1
>a 3.0 GPA is the equivalent of a 2
How is this fair?

>> No.10194181

>>10186810

Can you do a hons year? I finished my undergrad with a 6.5 GPA. Completing a hons year will potentially only increase that even more.

>> No.10194192

>>10194181
Wow, you must have had like 160% average. Way to do the extra credit.

>> No.10194239

>>10194192

Australian uni's grade with 7 max GPA, so a 6.5 is mostly HD with some D's in there.

>> No.10194635

>>10193922
>When companies say they require a GPA of at least 3.X they do realize that a 4.0 in business is a lot different than a 4.0 in math correct?

People writing the job ads at companies are retarded fat pink haired sjw HR workers. They don't know the difference in difficulty between math and gender studies.

>> No.10194747

>>10186810
cope n rope

>> No.10194836

>>10193955
Yes. Do it. It's got no unemployment

>> No.10194840

>>10193932
Business is a humanity.
Social "science" and economics and philosophy is all humanities

>> No.10194848

>>10194635
Shut up loser.
Getting good grades in STEM is no different from getting good grades in psychology or communication.
The only reason why people think STEM is hard is because those people weren't suited for STEM but chose to do it anyway. If you don't like STEM you can't get good grades in STEM.

>> No.10195236

>>10194836
any particular field I should choose ?
Like there's drones, programming, networking etc

>> No.10195870

>>10194840
Yeah, but HR people usually study easier humanities is what my post meant.

>> No.10195872

>>10194159
Germany? Obviously convert. Germany has grade inflation too, but not as extreme as USA.

>> No.10195876

>>10194239
Thanks. Because obviously we didn't need any of this information in your previous post.

>> No.10195880

>>10186825
>t. brainlet
Engineering GPA is directly correlated with work ethics so you have no excuse

>> No.10195881

>>10194848
You might have a point, but you fail to take into account that SEM course averages are far lower than average even within STEM.

So the difference is that the Profs won't rescue you with a curve if you screw in engineering compared to when you screw up in psychology or biology.

Even when you're top of the class you are not gauranteed >3.0 if the exam conditions are unreasonable.

>> No.10195885

>>10195880
Lolno it is not. I know people who study every waking hour. Who attend every tutorial session and office hours. And have been working on their bachelors for over 6 years...

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>> No.10195897

>>10193581

This. My professor who's basically the guy who knows everyone everywhere in industry constistently tells us that GPA has no real meaning. Senior design and experience is truly the most important thing an employer is interested in.

It's also not what you know, but who you know.

>> No.10195931

>>10186810
Similar topic I guess, 2.9 chem degree and I've taught for five years. I want to make real money now. How do?

>> No.10195970

I don't believe I've ever had a college class grade on a curve, but I have had dropped lowest test score. My multi. var. calc teacher this quarter even gave 30pts extra credit so I can get 55% on the final which is tomorrow and get a A- in the class since I'm at around 110%, but on the other hand I got a B- on my first ochem test and there is no extra credit. To get an A in the class I need to score 192/200 pts... I wish they would curve because I'm probably top 3 in the class, but will probably end up with an A-.

>> No.10195973

>>10186818
>average gpa for math is sub 3.0
I'm a fucking genius then.

>> No.10196055

>>10193930
Thx anon. I thought so too. Going to be forever brainlet. I think i will go for one of those meme masters degrees at this point and retry in 2 years.

>> No.10196125

>>10186824
That hotel room actually looks comfier than any place seen in K-On.

>> No.10196338

What is GPA? I mean actually what is GPA, how do I calculate it? My uni has no GPA system and we have grades going from 1 to 5 with 5 being the best.
As of now I have 4.2 cumulative average and last semester was 4.68 average.

>> No.10196357

>>10196338
https://gpacalculator.net/how-to-calculate-gpa/

>> No.10196476

>>10186810
how tf do you pay large sums of cash in for a higher education and be mediocre at best? i never had anything less than a near perfect score on quizes and exams and all i did was study 3-4 hours a day. its reallly not that hard

>> No.10196484

>>10196357
Ah, so this means no matter what I'll be well above 3.0 GPA (US)?
Neat.
No wonder why I got a job before graduating BSc

>> No.10196562

>>10186810
It depends what University you went to.
If you got a 3.0 at an ivy league or a big state school then it's fine.
If you got a 3.0 at some meme small college or community college it looks really bad.
I can confidently say that most employees care more about where you graduated from than the GPA.

>> No.10196615

>>10188561
Neither

>> No.10196653

My GPA was due less to not understanding the material and more to being depressed and constantly fighting with my family for two years and simply missing assignment after assignment. I went into a field (social work) that doesn't really care about GPA but now I want to go into medicine which really does care about GPA. Is there a way I can somehow prove that I will put in the effort now that I'm in a better place? And if I explain the real cause of my low undergrad GPA is there a chance they would take me?

>> No.10196683

>>10196653
Medicine is not science nor math. Your family was right, you only wasted your time and your family money.

>> No.10196703

>>10195973
Math is a hard subject.

>> No.10196815
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>>10188074
>productivity increases
>wages don't rise
>I just don't know how things got so bad in this day and age.

>> No.10196915

>>10187391
Internship, duh. Or just know people.

>> No.10196924

>>10196815
Political science is not a science and Marx was basically an illiterate by today's standards.

>> No.10196931

>>10195973
You aren't. Math is the single worst taught subject. 95% of Math professors don't even give a shit if anyone passes.

>> No.10197670

>>10196931
My math professor was pretty based, made sure we all understood the basic concepts and had practice sessions with good explanation
I guess I was just lucky

>> No.10197696

>>10188171
w-would math count as a non-normal degree? Also tell me more about biophysics. Why would a med school like either of them.

>> No.10197704

>>10189242
then mention you major GPA.

>> No.10197713

>>10191152
wouldn't they be able to tell you aren't black from the skin color? What did you say when they brought up sexuality?

>> No.10197716

>>10192362
which uni?

>> No.10197718

>>10192435
which university are you in and are you doing a masters or a bachelors?

>> No.10197720

>>10193401
What can you tell us about your field?

>> No.10197724

>>10197670
which uni?

>> No.10197729

>>10196653
Same here. My last 2 years were nothing but A's with a few B's while my first 2 years were almost exclusively C's and D's. GPA averaged out to about a 2.9 because of it.

>> No.10197732

>shittier slav uni
>mostly C
>struggle to take a derivative, forgetting everything after exam
>meanwhile ppl from top uni are literally gods who win every competitive prog / ml contests
>it takes me hours to remember something
>friend just glance at the material and acts as if he known everything beforehand

I should have studied in school.

>> No.10197754

>>10196653
>>10197729
I forgot to mention that in your personal statement you can remark about why your GPA is below the minimum requirement or a bit low in general

>> No.10197759 [DELETED] 

>>10196562

What do you mean by "big state school"? I don't think my university is well-known outside my state, but it's one of the top 50 largest universities in the United States

>> No.10197820

>>10186810
Real engineering/math/physics professors don't even like to use letter or number grades because they understand that "failing" is the only way to learn. Only boomers in administration use grades as a stat to show off for more funding to hire their cousins in their diversity department.

>> No.10197828

>>10196931
Undergrad/grad Math professor lifestyle at a typical elite American University
>Professor rolls out of bed fully dressed at half past noon
>Checks to make sure his breath doesn't stink
>Takes a swig of brandy
>Walks across the street to cafe
>Sits at cafe for an hour doodling on a legal pad
>Oh shit I'm 10 minutes late for my 2pm lecture
>Walks slowly to class
>"Oh hey guys, man this class is early."
>Realizes he didn't do any preparation, tries to prove the Urysohn lemma from memory
>Spends 20 minutes trying to figure out the statement of the theorem
>Student raises hand
>"Will this be on the exam?"
>Professor remembers that this is his calc I lecture.
>shrugs and leaves room
>Goes to office
>Works for 90 minutes
>department head enters room and tells him he needs a fourth for bridge with the Emeritus professors
>Plays bridge until 4am
>Repeat

>> No.10198247

>>10186810
If Julius Peppers can have a career with a 1.8 GPA, anything is possible. Just stick to your guns and show the world what you can do. I believe in you.

>> No.10198290

>>10187896
getting your shit out on soundcloud and competing with niggers - lol good luck. I see niggers tryna work with eachother at the bus stop but they're all talk. Living in the big city like I do, most artists I know since college don't make it past like 2000 followers. I know this girl who has a chem/music dual degree, she's still struggling getting her band out there these past 5 years, this other band singer I sold acid to only started throwing shows this year and it's been almost 6 years since he formed. As for dealing acid- I had been doing that for a while, prevented me from finishing my electrical engineering degree. I can tell you from experience: Shit customers, people spit on you and don't respect you or your schedule or steal from you and it changes your perception of humanity. Shit career and you can't put it on your CV or invest any of that money anywhere if you're not into trading. You're better off with a profession.

>> No.10198311

>>10197720
All I'll say is that I'm in the department of chemical engineering.

>> No.10198335

>>10198311
Thanks for answering! Do you plan on trying to go for a professorship or will you move to industry? How did you decide on chemical engineering (i.e. how have your career aspirations evolved from high school onwards)? I'm kind of having analysis paralysis at all the fields I find interesting.
>biomathematics [systems biology, genomics, bioinformatics],
>photonics [THz biospectroscopy, quantum lasers and shit],
>CS [AI, quantum algorithms]).
Any advice on finding a niche and sticking with it?

>> No.10198423

>>10198335
Right now I'm leaning towards industry, but who knows. 5+ years ago I was a pre-med bio major, so anything is possible. When I was a freshman I became disillusioned with biology and med-school, but I had an interest in chemistry and math. Chemistry is a useless major, so the obvious choice was chemical engineering.

I'll speak on the graduate level, since that's what I'm most familiar with. One of the great things about chemE is how broad and applicable it is. There are people in my cohort researching drug delivery, catalysis, systems optimization, how to inject nanoparticles into plants, etc. I'm personally working on control theory (100% computational work), and I'm very happy with my undergraduate major choice. Especially for undergraduate engineering, they're teaching you how to learn, think, and solve problems. If you get any engineering degree, you could reasonably work in any of those fields (though EECS may be slightly better for the latter 2).

Also don't get a biomath degree, it's a meme.

>> No.10198726

>>10197724
Hungary
Unfortunately our uni houses 10 math professors and only one is competent enough to actually be able to TEACH maths. The rest are useless talkers, the usual reaction to "I don't understand" is "it's trivial, how do you not SEE it?" and just move on. My professor was the only one who actually practiced the types of problems we had in the exams and finals.
So I'd say the problem is universal.

>> No.10198745

>>10198726
To make things worse the useless professors are puremath scrubs with elitism complex while our only usable teacher is a programming maths engineer (don't know how it translates to western terminology, something like CS but with actual rigorous math side) and maths PhD

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10198787

Grades are in.. be me and feel good.
I'm an ER scribe and I hope to be an intensivist.
Think I'll make it?

>> No.10198805

>>10198787
How?

>> No.10198821

>>10198787
>I'm an ER scribe
You would fail an engie phys 1, stop telling yourself you are at the same level. Medicine is not science.

>> No.10198852

>>10198821
Wanted to be a bioengineer and make medical equipment but too much education compared to the salary outcome. I figure I can be a hospitalist and be inspired to design better equipment plus make better income.

>> No.10198856

>>10186810
no one cares about your grade if you are an engineer

>> No.10198862

>>10198852
>too much education compared to the salary outcome
>didn't have any serous job yet
This is how I know you're a brainlet pleb

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>>10198862
>>10198862
Expecting a job out of high school would be strange. I'm an undergrad working toward a BS. The scribe job was the serious straight out of the gate for me since I'm already seeing chest tubes and central lines placed and watching a metric fuck ton of medical decision making. And most of the job is paperwork so it's nice I'll be familiar with it. And the quarter million salary will be nice compared to classic tech jobs.
What was your first serious job and when?

>> No.10198903

>>10198877
Family business right after failing college. Basically I knew how to use computers and how to cobble together serials and right after a hard fail it was nice being actually useful. Eventually got more into it, studied on my own and soon I was on my way to [well known top tech company] training.
Then I reapplied and about to finish top of class and with multiple awards.
I also paid the tuition on my own this time, it was a self imposed condition I took very seriously, worked hard for 5 years to save up the money so no loan to carry after graduation.

>> No.10198911

>>10198903
One aspect I forgot, turned out I am good with precision optics, something you can't learn in any school, that is how I got into [well known top tech company] training.

>> No.10199352

>>10186810
Do lots of internships and make a good LinkedIn profile. Employers don't give a shit about Goyim Points after your first job.

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>>10197828

>> No.10199597

To be fair there's a balance, if you overload or what a lot and get Cs then it's more tolerable then if you do shitty and don't do anything else.

>> No.10199602

>>10199597

Or work a lot*

>> No.10200503

>>10198911
can you explain more about the precision optics? I'm interested in optics but hearing about the value of operating it in industry is news to me. What type of company/job are you in now?

>> No.10200532

>>10200503
I service optical emission and x-ray fluorescence spectrometers

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>2.8 GPA
>want to do to grad school
How fucked am I bros?

>> No.10200663

>>10200662
rly fucked

>> No.10200685

>>10200662
bad but you could still get in with strong reccs and gre

>> No.10200750

>>10200662
whats are your recs/research
where are the bad grades
where are the good grades

>> No.10201739

I just got my final grade.
Ochem/calc3/ecology all As, but my GPA is a 2.9. I fucked around and just came back to school so I do hope grad schools notice I'm maintaining a near 4.0 my Senior year. Enroute to graduate with a 3.2 this Spring, but I could get a 3.5 if I retake failed classes from five years ago. One of them is microbiology... which I don't need to graduate so it will remain a blight on my record. I believe I took it for a cell specialization biology degree but switched to ecology since it's the fastest path to graduation.

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>>10186818
>tfw 2.5 in financial math
probability is fun but 95% of my maths profs have been utterly useless