/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10182424
I don't know, but I've chosen studying pure math instead of mathematical biology. I hope that I will be able to get close to biology later.

>>10182431
>I've chosen studying pure math instead of mathematical biology
Why, if, as you stated, you're interested in bio?

>>10182424
lmao out of all my fellow undergrads Ive only met one physics dude who studies biophysics. now youre trying to find a "math biology" researcher? good luck m8 biologists can't even expand natural logs

>>10182577
>literally doesn't know what quantitative biology is
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

cue that one paper where some medical researcher discovers the Riemann integral

>>10182424
AI

>>10182424
AI will do biology for us.

>>10183269
You mean Tai's method? Because if so it was only the trapezoidal method which is miles more simple than Riemann integrals.

>>10182486
Because when I saw some of the biologists on this board they were very unhappy with the job market.
Also because biology isn't as exact as math.
Biology isn't 100% sure on so many topics. And also I would need chemistry. And chemistry is hard for me because I don't understand all the underlying principles and if I had to study biochemistry or something like that.
I don't know.
Math is hard to learn but math is mostly idealistic. Real world isn't.

>>10183511
>they were very unhappy with the job market.
Aren't biotech and biochem supposed to be booming?

Bump

>>10183303
T H I S. Biologists on suicide watch!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>10182424
What the difference between math biology and bioinformatics? Bioinformatics has been here for a while now and it basically uses math to calculate stuff like what's on your pic related.

>>10183303
AI can't perform lab work. We'd need actual androids with hands of human-tier precission to do anything with cell cultures or experimental animal handling. So if there's anyone losing their jobs anytime soon, it isn't biologists.

>>10185020
Bioinformatics and mathematical biology are related but separate branches of a broader field called quantitative biology.

>>10185020
Bioinformatics is very much a statistical discipline, the questions you may ask are statistical in nature, e.g. the statistical (probabilistic) properties of certain motifs (subsequences) in different strands of DNA. Another question might be about the relationship of certain genes with each other (i.e. correlation) and a certain observed disease or phenotype

Mathematical biology on the other hand is inspired by certain problems in applied mathematics, problems like modelling osmosis and diffusion using certain PDEs. Modelling cancer growth, populations of bacteria using either PDEs or stochastic processes (or SPDEs).

So they both look at different problems in biology with different areas of mathematics, a good intersection of the two is probably in modelling evolutionary processes.

>>10185069
Is math bio worth getting into or is it boring/a dead end?

i mean is there any interesting leads we have? What problems are to be solved by applying higher level math to biology

>>10185930
Protein folding, i.e. the most important problem in biology currently

>>10185942
what mathematics is applicable

>>10182577
Dumbest comment

>>10183570
Yes. Lab monkeys are in high demand. As much as code monkeys in fact.

>>10182577
ur mom expanded my natural log

Probably some abstract bs that a small subset of the human population cares about.

>>10182424
>tfw already ahead of the curve majoring in math and minoring in biology

>>10185912
It is worth it and is very much booming

>>10185930
Mathematics (and computer science) allows for the modeling of natural systems. This includes disease spread, cancer proliferation, protein folding, etc
>>10185947
Dynamical systems, probability theory, linear algebra (of course), statistics

This is all Grothendieck's fault.
Grothendieck, go fuck yourself. I don't wanna learn biology.

>>10182424
>scientific computing and mathematical physics
Should you study math, physics or CS to do those? Stuff like quantum computing, theoretical HEP and whatnot

>>10182424
>will mathematical bio be THE hottest field of math?
Nope. It'll be accepted tentatively as they do random numerical calculations, then discarded when the results dry up.
>There's also scientific computing and mathematical physics which look promising.
Mathematical physics has looked promising since Newton. Scientific computing has looked promising since the 1940's. After all, it's just computer science and resource optimization. Where were you at all these years?

Here's the order of the greatness of fields and how they will always be ordered

Linear Algebra > Mathematical Physics/Fluid Dynamics > Algebraic Geometry, Differential Geometry and Functional Analysis > Complex and Real Analysis > Topology > Group Theory > Ring Theory > Field Theory > Industrial mathematics > Combinatorics > Mathematical Biology > Graph Theory > Number Theory > Statistics > Data Science > Mathematical Logic

>>10187659
>my opinions are fact

>>10182424
Anything relating to probability theory/statistics, numerical optimization etc. will be good.
>>10185020
Mathematical biology is basically mathematicians fucking around with population genetics etc. while bioinformatics is data science, the biology edition.

>>10187992
>probability theory/statistics, numerical optimization
That's boring as shit