/sci/ - Science & Math

that vid got me hyped up af

>>10148060
>we are going back to the moon
>to stay
Has anyone found any mission specs for this? I'm curious what the plans for a lunar base are

so the're revealing the moonbase finally

>>10148060
did they give all the sls money to their marketing team

>>10148297
pretty sure

>>10148060

Regardless of whether or not it's true, it would be less embarrassing to say they never went in the first place.

>>10148450
Video FX technology is sufficient today that it will look as real as any modern TV sitcom.
Big Bang Theory, Modern Family, American Housewife, The Middle.... these shows are LOADED with hidden special effects right down to the appearance of the actors themselves.

>>10148180
Step 1) Wait for STS to finish
Step 2) go back to Step 1
Step 3) build a moonbase

>>10148462
*SLS

So this is the power of Nasa source code...

SLS is a magnificent rocket and humanity's greatest achievement in space.

>>10148598
This a very good post.

>>10148060
>this is not about flags and foot prints

Why do they say shit they know is going to be misinterpreted? Or do they actually mean something retarded? I get the human vs national accomplishment meme, but footprints are a milestone. How is space exploration not about the next milestone.

>>10148060
NASA uses CMake.

>>10148060
Propaganda.

>>10148060

>narrated by Mike Row

the guy who thinks kids shouldn't attend university and therefore be unable to work for NASA

>>10148474
LoOpS?

>>10148060
Great to see all the minorities represented!!!!

did they get Mike Rowe to narrate that this?

>we're going to the moon, to stay
>it's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it

>>10148060

NASA says the same shit every few years. Nothing is gonna happen.

Lel yeah right NASA is a fucking joke, they will spend 5 years arguing over the correct amount of diversity for the 4 people on the SLS moon base while SpaceX is sending cunts to Mars.

>>10148899
>>10148936
100% True. I just worked an internship at grc and holy fuck they're so slow and focused on trivial shit like diversity.

Nowhere near the level of ambition as the people I worked with at SpaceX and Blue Origin.

>>10148936
>spacex will send people to mars
no

>>10148060
>showing a dragon capsule in your propaganda video
Good job NASA.

>>10148823
In the public eye the race to the moon wasn't about science, it was about sticking a flag there first.
That's why interest was lost after Apollo 11 such that by Apollo 13 people hardly cared until it fucking exploded.

>>10148843
You're not allowed to employ children anyway.

>>10148264
JOHN MADDEN

>>10149233
they showed a Falcon 9 too

>>10149279
Yeah, but they were talking specifically about partnerships at that point, so I guess that's fair.
When they show the Dragon they're like "we are the pioneers, the visionaries, the thinkers, the doers".

>>10149242
>In the public eye the race to the moon wasn't about science, it was about sticking a flag there first.

But that's right. We use science to achieve goals. Only the most faggot scientist could flip it backwards and say we achieve goals to advance science. Even though that does happen, *learning your theory to go to the moon works* is just is just an accessory to the fact you went to the moon. Just like the effects of an important discovery or invention are vastly more important than the incremental knowledge you confirmed, and suspected to be true anyway, or else you never would've made the attempt.

>That's why interest was lost after Apollo 11 such that by Apollo 13 people hardly cared until it fucking exploded.

Which is why NASA should get a clue people don't care about science. People care about accomplishing shit. Taxpayers might actually jump on the hype train if it was "about putting a flag and footprints on mars".

>>10149297
>people don't care about the real shit that matters, they only care about stupid shit that doesn't
sadly true

>>10148264

>>10149297
You're right, but the public still wants technological advancements.
>Taxpayers might actually jump on the hype train if it was "about putting a flag and footprints on mars".
Unlikely. Who is the competition? SpaceX? Russia? China? I'd say mostly culture has just changed since the Cold War.

>>10149345
Americans might be petty enough to want it with no contest. The idea that we flagpoled on mars before ruskies and chinks could set foot on the moon.

But that's actually a good point. The problem is scientists are progressives that want to suppress our tribal nature instead of exploiting it. They could all agree to fake a space race but they won't do it.

>>10149345
>I'd say mostly culture has just changed since the Cold War.
That's retardedly simplistic

>>10149360
That's society for you.
A lot of individual complexity is lost when the individuals come together.

>>10149368
What?

>>10149360
Not that guy but how

Americans were actually afraid of losing technological superiority in space to the Russians. Back when they thought the the outcome had serious warfare applications. Cooler stuff than better rockets and spy satellites.

Something like a manned mars mission is cool as fuck, like the moon. But its not a perceived existential threat to forget about it.

>>10149372
He's saying group think is easy to describe. In fact, groups aren't good at holding complex ideas.

>>10149379
I dunno, man, Trump wants to build a 'space force.' Have you been living under a rock?

>>10149324

>>10149384
Half the country thought that was retarded like everything he says, the other half don't think we need to militarize space. Even his die hard base didn't imagine the idea before he said it, or think about space at all.

Are you a non-american that uses trump as a barometer for the pulse of the americans? You're reading it completely wrong.

>>10149394
Which of those halves of the country was the one that voted for Trump?

>>10149384
I didn't take that very seriously. We'll see what happens.

But the USAF had a chance to build a "Space Force" using revised and extended Gemini technology, and wound up deciding that there was no real mission that required manned flights.

The major problem is that it'd need such public support that even with a change in President, even change in ruling party, they wouldn't dare to cancel it. And to keep such support for such a long time would require milestones that'd excite the public.
If you look back at the old space program they had pretty frequent launches, went for records like longest time spent in orbit, first space walks, rendezvous, images from space that were rare and new to people.
What can they do now that would keep public excitement for several years? And I'm talking about NASA specifically here.

>>10149397
Conservatives that don't think we're in a cold war and wish liberals would shut the fuck up about russia

>>10149403
Fight aliums. But unless they find any aliums, that would be tricky.

>>10149403
Manned Mars or a moon base.

Uncle Sam is blowing too much money and knows it though. It feels like it'll never be reigned in enough to happen. But maybe if the economy doesn't detonate this next decade Americans could tolerate irresponsible space spending.

>>10149266
HOLLA HOLLA GET $

>>10148474

>after 60 years, we're just getting started
simply; epic

>>10148474

Embarassing

Mike Rowe narrating this nonsense:
> we welcome every partnership
except for China, who by law aren't allowed on the ISS, fuck those guys with the 2nd largest gdp on earth, they can't contribute, it hurts precious burger feelings

>>10148474
allows the boss to "disable module x" with no other code between

>>10149297
>Only the most faggot scientist could flip it backwards and say we achieve goals to advance science.
Science can't be advanced without someone, somewhere, achieving a goal.

>>10149569
space is not for the bugmen

>>10148598
? It hasn't even been built yet.

>>10149283
To be fair, from what I hear spacex is heavily subsidized by nasa.

>>10148060
i hate nasa

>>10148060
As an Yuropoor I feel healthy envy. Looking forward both for cooperation as well as competition between all space agencies (and success for each and every one)

>>10148843
The amount of technical trade positions open in the industry far outweigh the current need for enginerds and desk jockeys.

>>10150465
>from what I hear
Well *that* sounds legit.

>>10149266
A E I O U

>>10149422
The budget for space exploration is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of the pork in washington. The problem with nasa is that it's just bloated administration

>this isn't about flags
trump seems to want to increase their budget and yet they say some dumb shit like this? what are they thinking?

>>10148474
It looks like the tcx vars are being assigned to values in an array precisely so they don't have to boilerplate it again later, they probably loop over the array on many varying occasions in the program and then call that function to make the tcx vars correspond to it

>>10149559
>>10149533
>>10148848
this particular programmer has no choice because of the design of the ui class. the tcx objects are not in an array.

>>10149569
Probably has more to do with their well-earned reputation for stealing intellectual property, a lot of which is here and there in the design and management of ISS.

>>10150505
American here. Amen Brother! Preach!

More spaceships > fewer spaceships.

>>10150535
Partly. Partly there is no leadership from the politicians to set goals and then stick with them.

>>10149569
actually he said
>with every welcomed partnership
which definitely implies that not all partnerships are welcome

>>10148079
yup, makes me want to join nasa today

>>10148598
I didnt know that nasa employees shitposted on /sci/

>>10148843
>I should pay for my own food?
>You must want me to starve!

>>10148060
Kek, this is just nasa starting a new project for funding because the moneyflow from the SLS will probably stop in the next 5 years.

>>10148060
I can't wait for the Moon™ experience sponsored by McDonalds

>>10150842
Where the hell is High Charity? That would dwarf even the independence day city destroyer.

>>10151047
Its 505,000 meters may I remind you

>>10151047
Wouldn't fit on there. Same as the Independence Day mothership.