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10133352 No.10133352 [Reply] [Original]

To what extent is reality subjective? It seems as though if you change the memories and the present awareness (be it by changing the perceptions or the reality itself), then you can travel to either the future or the past.
Chris Langan (the man with the 210 IQ) has made this comment some time ago.

>> No.10133368

>>10133352
langan is a dumb bouncer

reality is objective; don't let philosophical drivel poison your mind

>> No.10133376
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>>10133368
Yet, it ceases to exist as soon as you die.

>> No.10133379

>>10133368
Not to mention, the wave function doesn't even collapse unless subjective awareness collapses it. Everything exists in a probabilistic, non-computed way until you make the observation and make it into something deterministic.

>> No.10133380

>>10133376
YOU cease to exist, not the rest of the world.

>> No.10133381

>>10133368
How can colorblind people even exist then

>> No.10133382

>>10133379
Nothing you said is true.

>> No.10133385

>>10133380
The rest of the world ceases to exist as well. It turns into a void, into nothingness. How is that different from not existing?

>> No.10133388

>>10133382
It is open to interpretation. However, the Copenhagen interpretation which I shortly summed up in my post is by far the most mainstream one in the academic circles.

>> No.10133390

>>10133381
Perception of reality is no reality. Obviously humans do no perceive the world 100% accurately. There is a REAL universe outside of the hunan mind, that is the same for everyone (hence "universe").

>> No.10133394

>>10133388
> by far the most mainstream one in the academic circles.
super false

>> No.10133396

>>10133385
That only happens when I die, you're just an NPC

>> No.10133397

>>10133368
Chris Langan is a man with an IQ of about 210. This isn't dumb by any standards. In fact, he is by far smarter than Einstein was estimated to be in terms of IQ.
He is on par with Da Vinci and Kant.

>> No.10133398

>>10133385
>The rest of the world ceases to exist as well
It does. If i killed you, I would continue to live in singular reality.

>> No.10133404

>>10133388
Absolutely not. And your post isn't in line with Copenhagen. You don't know what a wave function is, or what "observation" means. The word consciousness should never appear when talking QM

>> No.10133405

>>10133390
Perception is the only reality.

>> No.10133409

>>10133390
But why should the "real" universe be considered to be more real than the perceived one?
Not to mention, we can never get to perceive the "real" universe. Might as well only rely on the perceived, subjective universe.

>> No.10133410

>>10133397
in other words, he's proof that IQ is a meme

>> No.10133412

>>10133388
>""""subjective awareness"""" in Copenhagen
Kill yourself

>> No.10133414

>>10133397
>IQ is more important than achievements
You must have a very low IQ

>> No.10133417

>>10133390
>There is a real reality, it's just dosent exist!

>> No.10133418

>>10133404
Obviously, you can only resort to attacking a pop sci summary of the Copenhagen interpretation as the last resort.
Yet you still know what I meant - why make things more complicated?

>> No.10133420

>>10133409
>>10133409
>>10133417
dumbasses, go back to >>>/his/ , you're not welcome here

>> No.10133422

>>10133417
It does exist, the whole point of physics is to measure and predict what is happening within in it. Read Plato.
>>10133405
>what is geist

>> No.10133423

>>10133418
>Yet you still know what I meant - why make things more complicated?
I don't, actually. You haven't said anything coherent this whole time.

>> No.10133428

>>10133420
watch as the scientific man shrinks back... he's weak like an invertabrea, he's droning back and forth like an insect, a theologian.....

>> No.10133427

>>10133418
So your whole post was nonsense and you don't know what you're talking about. What say you?

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>>10133428
>invertabrea

>> No.10133433

>>10133412
I should not. But perhaps, the Jewish people should, considering the fact they conspired to kill a great philosopher by the name of Jesus roughly two millennia ago.
But after all, it is not as if the Jewish people will be given a choice in the long run - Zion is being surrounded, and it will soon be destroyed, with the diaspora being finished off by other minorities, the identity of which is not very hard to guess.

After all, due to the laws of dialectics, divine justice tends to prevail.

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>>10133433
You can go now.

>> No.10133436

>>10133434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHZl2naX1Xk

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>>10133420

>> No.10133443

>>10133433
>/pol/tard is defending what the nazis called 'Jüdische Physik', while attacking the jews
We have come full Mobius Band.

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>>10133438

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>>10133444
checked
>>10133443
/his/ really is full of newfags

>> No.10133455

>>10133443
Yeah, those stupid Nazis... Who had the leaders with the highest IQ (140+ for Adolf Hitler, officially tested, and around 150 for Goring, compared to ~110 IQ US Mutt Kennedy), and created incredible technological and scientific advancements in a short time frame.

Victory lasts longer than truth, you know. It isn't like anybody will care about the truth once the victory is achieved.

>> No.10133456

>>10133455
plz back to >>>/pol/

also i think it's time to sage and report this thread

>> No.10133461

>>10133443
>/pol/tard

Nice one. But no. Having Nordic heritage and following an agenda which is appropriate for such a population by far is not at all "/pol/-tier" or even "extreme-right".
Some of us are left-wing, some are right-wing, but we are all fed up with the Zionist insolence.

>> No.10133462

>>10133352
100% subject regardless of intelligence

>> No.10133468

>>10133456
You have broken the rules of announcing report or sage. Nice one.
I was merely replying to the person who told me to kill myself, by the way.
The Zionist insolence has no limits after all. But you should know one thing - our patience has its limits. One day, our patience will run dry and these insolent Zionist mouths will be shut.

>> No.10133469

>>10133455
>>10133461
laughing at your life rn

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>>10133469
You will not be laughing anymore soon.

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>>10133472
>one day...they will be sorry!

>> No.10133486

>>10133478
In all honesty, I dislike Zionism - that is, the notion that Jewish people should have their own nation-state. It's deeply insulting to me and to my Nordic heritage.
It is incredibly racist for Jews to have an "ethno-state", despite the fact that if anybody else tries to achieve one, they're deemed as racist.
Plus, the Jewish treatment of Palestinians is incredibly insulting too. They violate the Palestinian human rights, use chemical weapons against them, and so on.
Zionists also cause wars in the Middle East.

Not to mention the powerful Israeli-Zionist lobby in the US and its many evils.

>> No.10133492

>>10133486
Okay, this a science board tho.