/sci/ - Science & Math

EE here I like both signal and controls. What is the better pursuit? I like both equally and there is a lot of commonalities.

I would also consider power or RF. I am looking for stability and a fair amount of math.

>>10113748
This OP sucks. Just let /engi/ die.

>>10113857
>EE here I like both signal and controls. What is the better pursuit? I like both equally and there is a lot of commonalities.


Controls are more employable if that's what you're interested. Signals are more math heavier.

>>10114009
>Signals are more math heavier
>more heavier

>>10113748
If I wanted to do bio mechanical would it be best to just major in meche, minor in bio then take a graduate program worth a fuck?

>>10114611
Don’t even do the minor. Get good grades and talk your department head into letting you take graduate level classes as senior or junior electives.

>>10114763
Thank you. I will consider your advice.

How stupid is it that I'm studying Computer Engineering if I most likely want to become a software developer? I've always wanted to study something in engineering but see software development as an absolute guarantee to employment, plus I'm not a splerg and I think I would fit in more with the EE/ECE more than the CS department.

>>10113748
>Unless it is Biomedical, Mechatronics, or Systems Engineering your major XE major is not a “meme”. Additional meme majors include chemical and nuclear engineers. They are challenging degrees but there are just not enough jobs to keep up with graduating students. Many bitter anons in these threads are ChemE students or unemployed ChemE graduates.

This is bad advice. There are many MEs and EEs that are underemployed or even unemployed.

Engineering is a meme. The market is oversaturated. Only retards go into ME or EE expecting a good job right out of college.

What's the US job market like for laser and optical engineering?

The reason I ask is because it seems to be the only engineering field that hires physics majors.

>>10114790
EE here I don't know if EE or ECE is any less spergy than CS. Maybe you will have 10 girls in your class than 5.

You can get pure software jobs and EE jobs with a ECE degree but you can't do EE work with a CS degree.

I personally think ECE is the perfect degree. I am just better at math than coding so I chose pure EE

>>10114854
Well, when I was comparing the class picture of the CS department and CE/EE at the university I'm going to, like 75% of the students in CS looked like splergs and the EE/CE department students were like 25% splerg

>>10114803
>Only retards go into ME or EE expecting a good job right out of college.
desu what major will give you a _good_ job directly after college?

>>10115154
100% success, Nursing
Civil is strong
EE is still a good choice though especially if you can code

>>10115168
>Civil is strong
yeah, it seems like civil is the best engineering major for finding employment right out of school.

ive heard of plenty of electrical and mechanical engineers being underemployed or even unemployed after graduating but every civil engr. student I knew had a great-paying comfy job within a month or 2 after graduating.

i see tons of job postings for civil engineers. not just in cities, but every small town is looking for them. at least that's how it is in my state.

the only problem is that civil engineering seems like a really boring field.

How common is it to find part-time jobs in STEM? I'm going to study Computer Science or EE but I don't want to work every weekday from 9 to 5.

>>10114538
Bruh we engi not english majors

>>10115154
>children in this ITT this thread STILL going to college just to get a job

REMINDER, if the only reason you're going to college is because you want to be employed you are literally the cancer making it harder to get a job out of college. College is for people who enjoy rigorous study of a discipline that interests them, and it is the sad reality that so many brainwashed kids are going to college now because they think it somehow validates them or keeps them from being unemployed. As long as you genuinely enjoy learning the subject you choose, you will be happy in and leaving college. Take all the jobs that's aight I be working a dead end job barely scraping by to die happy because I got to do something fun with my life while y'all really out here learning something that bores you to get a job you hate to die a beta.

>tfw settling for a code monkey job
EE was a mistake

>>10115899
You have a blue collar understanding of engineering. It’s a job where you literally get paid to think. I don’t come into the office unless I have face to face meetings or I need to physically look at hardware. My company honestly gets its best work out of me when I’m having shower thoughts at 8 pm on a Friday. I am “at work” for 25 hours a week tops.

>>10116051
at least you found a technical job. I have a BSEE and I'm working as a fucking barista right now.

going to grad school soon in hopes of improving my job prospects.

>>10116071
my plan is to try to do an online MSEE while working here and transition out

If a plane's coefficient of lift is high enough at a given speed that it can potentially generate more lift force than the plane weighs, will it actually? Or will it only generate enough lift to statically balance the plane's weight? In the first case it would be doing extra work without additional thrust input, so I'm not sure.

>>10116333
trips checked

How would a plane be able to climb if the lift generated was bounded by the weight of the plane?

>>10116347
By changing the angle of attack. But if it could generate a net force perpendicular to the free stream velocity, wouldn't it be extracting free energy? Wouldn't it make more sense for it to act like the buoyancy force on a boat, where it statically balances the weight of the vehicle but isn't capable of doing work? Can any aero people please clarify?

>>10113748
What's wrong with biomedical engineering? It's a really interesting field.

>>10116351
>By changing the angle of attack
Yeah, increasing the angle of attack increases the lift force to a point where it is greater than the weight of the plane, and that causes the plane to climb.
>But if it could generate a net force perpendicular to the free stream velocity, wouldn't it be extracting free energy?
No, are you extracting free energy when you walk or jump? You're pushing down on the earth right? It's the same principle with an airfoil. The increase in gravitational potential energy of the plane comes from the decrease in the chemical energy of the fuel burning in the engines.
Imagine a bicycle with a ramp attached that brushes against the ground (like a plank thrown over the front of the bicycle). Now imagine there are tennis balls lined up on the ground and someone rides the bicycle straight into the line so the tennis balls make contact with the bottom of the ramp. The balls will roll on the ramp and gain height (and thus gravitational potential) energy right? Where'd that energy come from? From the dude riding the bicycle.
It's kinda the same thing with an airplane and its engines. The engines make the wings move forward through and and the shape of the wings force air downwards, which means the air must exert a force in the upwards direction on the wings.

>>10116351
>>10116412
P.S. The buoyant force is capable of doing work. Push the boat down a little further and watch it come back up.

>>10116412
>The increase in gravitational potential energy of the plane comes from the decrease in the chemical energy of the fuel burning in the engines.
But the Cl/Cd ratio can be as high as 60 for some planes. Now since forward thrust is equal to the drag force during level flight, how do you explain that there is also a lift force 60 times greater than that of the thrust force which is also somehow doing work? If lift came from thrust we would all be flying rockets instead of airplanes.

>>10116421
>Now since forward thrust is equal to the drag force during level flight, how do you explain that there is also a lift force 60 times greater than that of the thrust force which is also somehow doing work?
The lift force wouldn't be doing any work in level flight. But there wouldn't be a problem even if the aircraft was climbing but not accelerating in the horizontal direction. Conservation of energy isn't violated by the fact that the lift force is much larger than the drag force. Note that the lift force is maintained by the thrust, not sourced from it. The thrust allows the wing to continue moving at the velocity it is moving, otherwise it would slow down and the lift force would decrease. You may be thinking that the lift force being larger than the drag force means that it can do work at many times the rate of the engine, which is incorrect. If you're flying horizontally at constant velocity and increase the angle of attack of the wings and climb, you'll have to increase the thrust of the engines to maintain your velocity in the horizontal direction, as increasing the angle of attack of the wings increases the induced drag.

We don't ride rockets because they're ridiculously less efficient than turbofans for winged aircraft, riding a rocket powered aircraft without wings would be even less efficient.

>>10116457
>lift force wouldn't be doing any work
So we agree then. That's all that this was about: that lift can't do work.

>>10116459
No, what I said was this
>The lift force wouldn't be doing any work in level flight
>in level flight
Lift can and does do work.

Guys, if I landed a job offer for an internship for one major but am planning to change to another major (also engineering but unrelated to the first), do you think the employer will be O.K. with that? Should I still go ahead and do that internship, despite the fact that the experience is going to be in a different discipline?

>>10117186
It doesn’t matter what the employer is okay with. You work for Number One Inc. get the XP, get some contacts. The “work” is almost irrelevant. What’s it pay?

>>10117186
The pay is very decent for an internship, so I'm not worried about that at all. Also it's a small business with about 15 people in employment.

>>10117586
Meant to >>10117578

>>10117586
How much they pay you is the benchmark for what the next company thinks you are worth and is a leverage point. It’s why you never take an unpaid internship, because it means you are worth zero dollars.

>>10117605
Well this one in particular offers $17/hr. Thoughts?

if you're someone who loves linear algebra, is it better to study ME, EE or Comp. Sci? Which specific subfield?

I've heard people say control theory in EE has the most linear algebra.

>>10116710
>Lift can and does do work.
Dude how. Lift varies with the square of airspeed velocity, so if an airliner takes off at 100 mph and cruises at 600 mph, now it's generating 36 times as much lift as it was during takeoff and accelerating upward at 36 g's, blacking out all the passengers from lift force alone.

>>10117641
EE

Hi /engi/, I posted my resume here several days ago and got good feedback, mostly on restructuring. I want to get opinions on it now, I feel like it's as strong as it's gonna get but what the hell do I know. I'm starting my junior year in the spring at UCCS as a transfer student and I want to do aerospace work. At the moment I'm trying to apply to internships for the summer hence the resume building. Any feedback is appreciated, thanks again.

>>10116160
What kind of work do you do, anon?

>>10117631
That's actually a little low IMO, but if you already live there and/or don't have to pay for housing that's not too bad. If you don't have another offer I'd take it either way to get some professional experience.

>>10117767
>mechanically inclined
not a skill
>native spanish speaker
change it to fluent spanish speaker, both for interviewer bias reasons as well as to not imply that you can't fluently speak english
since you were a manager, include that you have leadership experience as a skill, it's obviously something businesses look for

>>10117631
That’s p good if it’s your first one.

>>10118318
Engineering :^)

>>10118329
>>10118450
Thanks for thoughts guys, will do.

>>10118418
Thanks for the input anon, yeah I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning the mechanically inclined thing. I guess I'll swap that for leadership.

>>10117641
I'm ME. I've basically maximized the LA I do in my studies and work.
>finite element analysis, meshless methods and computational fluid dynamics
>modern control
>machine learning

>>10117656
>assuming constant density
>assuming constant drag coefficient (assuming constant viscosity)

>>10119004
you have a Master's?

Does it make sense that a 15 GHz radar antenna would have an unsafe zone with a radius that's somewhere between 0.0182 m and 0.0576 m?

I don't know if I'm going to pass thermo and fluids this term god fucking dammit I hate my life.

>>10114803
This. My entire life after high school is one giant mistake.

>>10117767
Looks much better bro.

>>10120170
Yet next semester you are going to think it’s a good idea to take machine design AND heat transfer. You do this to yourself with your arbitrary time tables.

>>10119971
i don't have nearly enough data to give you an answer to whether or not 0.0576m is a reasonable answer or not

>>10119639
Yes, but it was a 5 year master program that people enter out of highschool.
>finite element is a core unit, use it in club activities
>CFD is an elective, use it in my work
>meshless methods used for my thesis
>control is a core unit, modern control is an elective
>taught myself machine learning, entered competitions, won, offered a job

>>10113748
>Just checked how much debt I'm in
>way more than I thought it was (probably in the ballpark of 65k-70k)
So level with me: how many years should I wait before i decide to put a bullet in my head? Mechanical engineering btw

Let's keep to the question btw. My parents are in their 60s and I'd like to let them go senile before i do it

hate how i have to do work i dont even need to be able to understand the material to be able to get an A in a class

>>10120749
I always love units where the exam is worth a lot.

I have a Master's in EE and I work as a barista. OP is wrong.

>>10116071
>>10120816
do bars really need that many electrical engineer?

Current baby Robotics Associate student here, I like to think I have a future in some sort of industry, hopefully putting burger flippers out of work and beginning the dsytopia.
At least that's what I like to imagine what would happen

>>10120735
5

Where do I start learning. Can someone recommend a book?

>>10121065
sci wikia

*adds water-retaining clay to ur soil*

enjoy ur damaged foundations, nerd...

Lads, I need some advice.
I've been doing unpaid internship work for about 10 hours per week at a large company for the past 5 months. I'm on two projects and progress has been really slow and held up by technical issues of a different department, so they are both unfinished.
Just now I was offered a full time paid summer internship from a competing large company, doing completely different work. But of course the contract says I can't have work outside of this job without approval, and that I absolutely can not also be working for a competitor.

How do I deal with this situation?
My projects are unfinished, so I don't want to leave the first company. I also want to continue my internship with them when the next semester starts.
I know I am capable of performing well at both jobs simultaneously because I have experience being busy from study + TA + intern + clubs + casual work at a retailer (gotta get my foot in the door for when I eventually get hit by graduate unemployment ;^).

Also, do you think they will have a problem with me working on personal projects too? I haven't started monetisation yet.

I haven't discussed this with the person offering me the job yet.

>>10120332
I'm in computer engineering

>>10121065
https://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki

>>10121134
Stay and complete the projects.

>>10120774
It's nice, isn't it? At least until you end up with a professor with bullshit grading policies. My heat transfer class had 100% of the grade determined by the exams (30/30/40), which wouldn't be too bad if not for the fact that each exam was 10 questions multiple choice no partial credit. Every question was literally worth 3-4% of your final grade. And they were reasonably hard questions, to boot - doable, but not gimmes. And sometimes they would chain together.

I missed two questions because I arrived at algebraically equivalent answers but couldn't recognize it in time so I guessed wrong. (The answer key used different trig identities than I did, so they ended up looking quite a bit different.)

>>10121134
>I've been doing unpaid internship work for about 10 hours per week at a large company for the past 5 months
>But of course the contract says I can't have work outside of this job without approval, and that I absolutely can not also be working for a competitor.
>not getting paid for tech/engineering work
Are you even in US?

Anyway, feel free to disregard my advice because I'm just a graduate student, but if company #1 valued your work, they would pay you. Tell them to go fuck themselves, and spend the extra time working on your own stuff or trying to impress your new employers.

>>10121134
Why would you ever work for free? That's illegal if you're in the US. Tell them to go fuck themselves and take the real job that is full time and actually pays you money.

for me, it's controls

>>10118464
we want specifics :^(

>>10120665
kaggle competitions?

>>10120665
I've never heard of a 5 year masters program that people enter straight out of highschool. Got any inks?

Matlab or python?

>>10121672
NumPy.

>>10121664
The way he worded it is odd, but a few schools have accelerated BS/MS program where you get a bachelor's and masters degree in 5 years. Two I know of that have it are Drexel and Northeastern. Usually it's really hard and people that do it skip a lot of gen eds from AP classes.

>>10121134
Fucking walk. Your current employer isn’t paying you. They consider you to be absolutely worthless, so why do you care about them? Go get paid son. See >>10117578

>>10120665
>>10121659
>>taught myself machine learning, entered competitions, won, offered a job
Larp. Kaggle competitions have thousands of entrants, and the winners typically do so by unveiling new research ML methods.

>>10120199
Thanks anon, I'm gonna be tailoring this version to different internship apps then and sending them out tonight or tomorrow. I honestly feel like I don't have a great shot but you never know if you don't try.

>>10113748
>mechatronics and biomedical meme majors
>the fields that would bring transhumanism and the singularity

Kill yourself, fucking retard

>>10120822
Some of the equipment is electrically-powered. Employers figure you can probably operate a coffee machine well if you have an EE degree.

>plug weierstrass function into function generator
>hook it up to this circuit
>what does the output waveform look like
you should be able to solve this

>>10117767
>engineering professional
Stopped reading there. You are not a professional, you are an undergrad.

As soon as you get a bachelors, you never have to put information on about your highschool grades ever again on your resume right?

>>10113748
>hey are often very shallow degrees at the undergraduate level. Students end up becoming a master of none and are outclassed by the more common disciplines. For the longest period of time these courses were only Master/PHD opportunities.

What if I get both an undergrad and a masters in the field of Biomedical Eng.?

>>10113857
>>10114009
>>10114803
>>10114854
>>10115154
>>10115168
>>10115899
>>10116051
>>10116071
>>10117641
>>10120816
>>10122224
EE student here, finishing first trimester. Is it that fucking bad? I thought EE was a well payed degree. FUCK

>>10123204
You have to put your undergrad GPA to get most jobs

>>10123265
you don't hear posters complaining that their job is paying them too much here
don't base your entire future on selection bias

>>10123267
I mean like, where you went to highschool and your highschool gpa.

I flunked out with a 1.7 and got my ged later on. I’m now at a state university.

>>10123265
>Is it that fucking bad?
Network and do internships and you'll be fine. Also have at least a 3.0. I double majored in physics and EE and got a 2.5 gpa. Im about to turn 30 and I work at a warehouse at night and 7/11 during the day. My college years are the equivalent to me committing a felony at 18 and getting sent to the pen for a few years then having to adjust to a shit life working shit jobs

>>10123282
You have to put your college GPA on their so keep it above 3.0 or your screwed kiddo

>>10123282
na, nobody gives a shit about your high school record.

>>10123282
If high school was too hard for you then I've got some bad news about you being an engineer.

>>10123297
you don't know what his situation was. maybe he has a decent IQ but he was just a lazy student in high school.

>>10123304
Yeah maybe he was a heroin addict

>>10123287
>You have to put your college GPA on their

>>10123311
I was a porn addict actually.

>>10123332
What are you studying and how are classes going now?

>>10123336
Mech E, sophomore. It’s tough but doable.

>>10123345
You'll be fine, theres a chance you find a job afterwards though. Lot of underemployed ME's where im from

>>10123346
*wont find a job

>>10123181
Very constructive, thank you

>>10123346
Eh, i’m doing Navy ROTC anyways and I’m going the officer route. Being in charge of sailor techs on an aircraft carrier sounds more fun than designing some pedals for ford.

>>10123364
Good call and Ford outsourced its engineers to mexico for 5 bucks an hour along with GM

>>10123282
I dropped out of high school. If I had known about the finer points of community college I would’ve dropped out sooner.

>>10123304
>he was just a lazy student in high school
my point still stands, brainlet.

>>10121134
Literal brainlet undergrad here. I suggest that you tell your employer about your offer and to pressure them to pay you. If they don't want to pay then move to the paid internship.

>>10113748
>meme major
>meme degree
>meme state school
Lrn2meme fgt pls

>>10121602
>>10121651
Nah, Australia, hence why I'm talking about summer. Here you can do unpaid work as long as it is considered to be more beneficial to the student than the company. And seeing as the engineering regulations here require that you have experience to get your degree many internships are unpaid. Either by large companies throwing their weight around or by small companies who say they cannot afford.

>>10121276
>>10121768
Yeah I will be going with the new offer. I just have to make sure I leave the first on good terms. Given their size it will be very likely that I will be dealing with them again in the future.

>>10121659
>>10121910
Not kaggle. A company sponsored one of the engineering clubs at my uni with prize money and an internship to the winners.
It was only mechanial engineers that entered, I guess because they didn't do a thorough job of advertising.

>>10123204
I never do. The only time I've had it asked of me was by the largest oil and gas company in my state. They have a lot of state pride and so the way they phrase the question feels like it was done to demoralize those from other states.
>What is your [STATE] certificate of education grade, or equivalent?

you don't have to list your undergrad gpa if its shit tbqhwy.

EEs, which of these subfields is more interesting, in your opinion?

who here /phd/

why are you getting a phd?

i'm planning to get an ms in mechanical engineering while working. idk i if i want to get a phd afterwards, but the job i have now sucks. i think having an ms or phd would allow me to find a more interesting job.

>>10125415
I think signals has the most math so I would probably enjoy that the most.

But I think power and control have more jobs.

Guys I have a linear systems analysis midterm tomorrow

>>10125415
Signals because it has the hardest math.

>>10125496
I just got accepted to a ME PhD program, my whole desire is get licensure immediately afterwards so I can do my own consulting work while doing some teaching on the side for dat varied revenue stream

>>10125618
ayo this guy has his priorities in order. i'm up to take the PE next spring. was going to take it this fall but pussied out. my plan is farming in the summer and consulting/fabrication in the winter.

>>10114827

Look into Silicon Valley companies. Prepare to be raped on housing and food prices.

Has anyone here studied Comp Sci. or Engineering while also studying physics or math?

Did the physics/math coursework benefit you at all as an engineer? I'm doing a double major of something practical along with physics/math so I'm curious.

>>10125586
>>10125556
these
too bad signals is in the gutter these days
>>10125415
go into power or embedded systems. they're booming

>>10125586
>it has the hardest math.
Doest it? Isnt Signals mostly complex analysis?

>>10116051
Fucking this
Feels bad man

>>10116051
>tfw got into phd program just to avoid that even though programming would be easy money for me

>>10116051
>tfw settling for machine learning job as an EE

Step your game up, bros. :^)

>>10116085
Is there a valid MSEE program or is it just a meme. Asking coz I was looking for an online program and could'nt find any that didn't look fishy. Are online MSEE degrees recognized ?

>>10120735
you could wait for them to die. till then you could get a job and work towards paying off the loan. then once its paid off, shoot yourself in the head with a 9mm or .45 point blank.

>>10123137
Since the Weirestrass function is continuous but distorted sinusoidal function, passing it through this op amp integrator will smooth it out, flip the phase and change the function to a cosine one and probably decrease the amplitude of the output wave because the said integration would increase the base of the index term appearing in the amplitude coeffeicient of the sinusoidal function. I'm sure I could've worded this less jumbled but you get the general idea.

>>10123137
>>10126506
and i could post the exact output waveform if you give me the parameters of the function you've originally input.

>>10125586
fucking signals man. i never got along well with that shit. digital signal processing i loved tho

>>10125747
Math will definitely help you along in any engineering field.

>>10125496
Man I wish I could study for an MS while working where I live.. But its not really an option. Fucking 3rd world man.. it gets to you after a while.

>>10123284
>double majored in physics and EE
>warehouse and 7/11
feels bad man. i hope you get a better job. or maybe the two shifts pay okay and you're satisfied ?

>>10117767

Looks fine to me. Now focus on getting it in the hands of a flesh and blood human being (v.s. applying online where it's almost certain no one will ever see it).

Is working in finance a good alternative to engineering? I'm thinking of fintech since it's probably less saturated than cuckgineering.

>>10126506
but the weierstrass function is differentiable nowhere

>>10113857
Aerospace MS control theory here
do controls

So it turns out even if I ace the last two exams I’m looking at a final grade of 68 for calc. How different is doing a last minute withdrawal versus seeing it through and taking a 68?

>>10127623
lmfao

>>10127656
I may or may not have skipped a lot of coursework and classes without realizing how much it’d fuck me. Next time I’ll just cut other shit out of my day instead :|

>>10127679
aww it's okay, buddy. It's not your fault for intentionally missing class and refusing to do the homework. It's the teacher's fault for not giving you an A on the first day of class. We all know how hard freshman Calculus is and we're all still proud of you. Just sit back and look at memes and watch anime and I'm sure everything will work out better the third time around.

>>10126490
>pay off the loan and then kill yourself
ok but why

>>10127700
With the amounts of work I got from worthless gep classes along with exercising my time was pretty pinched. I skipped the discussions that were just an esl TA copying questions onto the board and the long homeworks each worth very little points. The quizzes were always outlier questions that required uncommon precalc, which I took 3 years ago, to solve. If I had just either never put any time into working out or didn’t take a gay art class that nobody told me would be better put off till later I’d be sitting at a B with low effort. Obviously me whining and you belittling isn’t changing anything, I just want to know the prognosis here.

>>10127623
Best case scenario: you talk with teachers, admin etc and withdraw from the class with permission and your GPA does not get affected. Worst case: you withdraw and get a falling grade, or you stay enrolled and see what happens.

>>10127748
Even if I withdraw and GPA isn’t affected, isn’t that W on the transcript just as bad as a D/fail when applying for jobs? I also worry doing so may mean I can’t register for calc 2 in the spring until after redoing calc in winter term at which point I may not be able to get registered for the classes I need to take in spring.

>>10127713
No, it's all good man, I know how hard that shit is. It's really really fucking hard to find time as a college freshman to do the shit you chose to go to college for. That plus having to take 100-200 level gen ed classes really fucks shit up doesn't it? It seems like you have your time prioritized pretty well though. I remember when I was a freshman, I could barely manage to look at enough memes, crank my meat three times a day, and play video games all in one day. Add in having to go to every third or fourth lecture just makes it impossible, doesn't it? I can't believe you were actually expected to remember things from precalc in a fucking calculus class, though. That's fucking ridiculous. Why the fuck do teachers and TAs think they can pull that shit? I mean, like, literally, just teach one thing at a time. You shouldn't have to remember shit and build upon everything you've previously learned as if you're trying to achieve a comprehensive education, right?
Don't worry, man. Just take calc again one or two more times, manage a sub 2.5 GPA, graduate in under 6 years, and you'll have a job lined up with Boeing or SpaceX making 6 figures by the time you get your degree.

>>10127777
I graduated in 8 years, honestly.
Granted, 5 of them were in community college.

>>10127782
and what are you doing, now?

is chemE grad school fun?

Is lockheed martin a good place to intern as an aerospace engineering student

>>10127784
work in SV. Been thinking about going to grad school. Do they care about CC performance? Mine was really shitty, and I had a shitty first year at a 4 year (2 Cs and and F I retook for an A-) but I got all As after that and ended with a 3.74 4 year GPA (3.48 cumulative with CC)

>>10127799
Also, that F was in an upper division project course, which is why I didn't bother applying to grad school the first time around. Just absymal.

>>10127777
Interesting rebuttal

>>10127760
The GPA is the first thing that people notice, so I think a W on a transcript would be better that a 2.0.However, since you need cal 2, it may be worthwhile to take the hit in GPA in order to not fuck up your class progression. Of course, if you have difficulty with cal 1, then you may also have difficulty with cal 2.

>five hour interview
>interviews 1-4 go really well
>get to interview 5
>this one is whiteboarding
>completely choke in front of the entire office
>fail all of the problems
>can't even divide two numbers
>people get up and leave because it's so bad
I want to die.

>>10127850
What were some of the problems so I know what to expect?

>>10127862
They weren't even that hard. I just locked up and couldn't think for a solid hour because I hadn't slept the night before (from being nervous).

EE bros, are the nomimal voltages in Zener diodes' datasheets in RMS or Peak2Peak or what? I NEED to know.

>>10127850
>be me
>go to college career fair
>get interview for next day
>interviewer asks me about a few projects I've done, what I might like to do at the company, and my hobbies
>get offered the job on the spot

>>10127885
I-is there still hope? The others were all impressed with my projects.

>>10127795
if you get a position at lockheed I'd imagine no place would turn you away

but if you're asking "should I try to intern there?" then it doesn't hurt to try, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket

>>10127834
Thanks for the reassurance it’s leveled my mind some

>>10127872
It should say on the sheet lmao, if not then state your assumption or email your ta

>>10127777
Doing God’s work anon. Give these shitters what for.

>>10126662
A true weierstrass function is also impossible to generate because it has an infinite bandwidth.
The closest you can make would be a band-limited approximation which would itself be differentiable

>>10127777
>t.legend
You're cool anon i like you

>>10127850
shit anon i feel for you. you'll get better results the next time

Got an interview thanks to a friend whose father knows the CTO of the company. Fucking connections, man. Wish me luck; I'm hyped as hell. Been looking long enough for sure.

>>10127872
it will be specifies on the datasheet. Usually its RMS. Specifying peak to peak values would make no sense.

>>10126485
bump

>>10127707
sheesh anon dont ask me why I'm not good at explanations

I applied for 2 internship positions at Raytheon yesterday morning. Today I logged on to check the status and my profile had no applications at all on it. Is this a glitch or did they already toss em? I haven't received an email about it yet so I'm not sure but I'm thinking they got canned.

>>10128682
Call their HR department and ask. Doing that is infinitely better than resubmitting or losing an opportunity.

>>10128686
Will do, thanks anon.

>>10127792
So far it's more difficult than undergrad, but I'm only one semester in. What did you do for undergrad? Why are you running about cheme grad school?

>>10127792
>>10128720
Thinking* , not running

I'm looking at electives and can't decide between Design of Mechatronic Systems and Advanced Dynamics. Any thoughts?

comp. sci./math double major here.

ive been thinking about going to grad school to do research in quantum computing or bioinformatics. would it be worth it to do a physics minor or biomolecular science minor? i have enough shit on my plate being a double major so im wondering if the knowledge gained from a minor would be worth it.

>>10127850
>apply to 10 internships advertised online for a large oil+gas company, eg subsea engineering or vibrations, ect
>rejected from some
>accepted from others
>the next step is an online interview
>the online interview system is completely dysfunctional, I and no one else, can submit recordings
>receive rejection letters for all the interviews I failed to submit
>months pass
>receive an email from the company, asking to come in for an interview
>for a flow assurance internship, which was not advertised and I did not apply to
>organise a time
>have to call them and postpone the interview by a week because of severe sickness
>flop the interview, hesitate, mumble, stutter and give unclear answers
>receive a call 20 minutes after the interview offering me the job
What the fuck happened?

>>10113748
>x = (meme)(major)
>x/(major) = (meme)
So any field x divisible by there major makes it a meme.
but
>(x/(major))^-1 = (meme)-1
>(major)/x = 1/(meme)

thus giving us the inverse of a meme which we will define as

>(meme)^-1 = ¬(meme)

∎

>>10130554
this the most beautiful thing I've seen in my entire life

>>10130780
Thank you mon frond kids gotta know how it's done

>>10130529
They meant to invite someone else, then they meant to hire someone else.

>>10130529
This is why you put out fucktons of apps. Sometimes shit just makes it through somehow.

>>10120749
The semesters tests are only 8 hours of work. The assignments and homework are what give you the experience you need. It allows you to earn your grade, not have it given to you. It's character building and it's habit forming. Your work ethic will thank you for it.

>tfw when 5 years deep into Civ Eng

I wish I'd done architecture or just been a builder

>>10131236
can't decide between computer science, EE, ME and Civil Engr and I have to declare a major soon.

I have a slight preference for computer science but im worried as fuck about jobs being outsourced like crazy. it doesn't seem like most software jobs require expert knowledge in computer science. what's worse, a lot of job postings say they would consider hiring ppl with just a high school diploma.

Maybe a dumb question, but if you're someone who enjoyed building legos, will you like mechanical design in CAD/Solidworks?

>>10131236
Is Civil Engineering as boring as it sounds? Did you find your classes interesting?

I think I just passed my first year of engineering without any study. Why am I like this?

>>10131630
Those aren't CS jobs. CS jobs would require a degree and demonstrative knowledge on things like algorithms.

>>10114611
You should do electrical. The majority of biomechanics is the integration of chemical potentials with our preferred discrete electrical signals. Any brainlet can make a bionic arm, they've been made before, the problem is attaching it to a person. Although there is some merit it trying to minimize the space needed for the controllers and other moving parts.

>>10114803
My Uni focuses more on getting people jobs then it does teaching. With 60 days vocational experience required, and seemingly weekly industry events, it's actually hard not to make connections. Last year every engineering student from my Uni got a job. We've also had talks from graduates working for various companies that come to industry events. Most of them graduated only 2-3 years ago and they're already leading teams of like 20 laborer drones. This is Australia by the way.

>>10131650
It's not that it's boring, I've worked for a design consultancy in civils for nearly 3 years alongside studying, and I just don't fancy doing it anymore.
The course was interesting, I'm doing the Masters now which I'm enjoying, but if I could go back 5 years I'd switch to something like architecture

>>10131653
First year engineering is easy, and in some unis don't even count your grade for it. You won't be able to do the rest of your degree like that

>>10131689
I know. How the fuck do I change though. It's so painful being this brainlet.

>>10131715
How to get a good GPA without cramming:

-get a jump start on next years material in the current semester. dover books are really good for this.

- take the bare minimum credits to qualify for full time not whatever amount of credits it takes to graduate in 4 years. an extra year in college isn't going to kill you but a sub 2.5 GPA will.

-keep good ass notes and save all homework/tests. get other peoples tests and coursework who have already taken the class.

-don't take two "weed out" courses in the same semester. or do, but then don't cry here when you get smoked in heat transfer and machine design.

>>10131658
Do you have suggestions for job titles I should search for?

I'm really curious how much demand there is for people with CS degrees in my area. When I search for titles like "software developer" and "computer programmer," I run into a lot of jobs that don't require any college degree. When I search "software engineer," I run into control systems jobs looking for C programmers with EE or ME degrees.

Someone recommend me an aerodynamics/aircraft design textbook.

>>10131878
And let me clarify: one from the last 10-15 years.

I'm applying to another uni soon. I just got my associate's but before that, I attended another uni where I got a shitty GPA. Does it look bad if I leave out the GPA from the first uni on the application? Technically, they're supposed to automatically accept me no matter what since I earned an associate's degree in the last 2 years but idk. I don't want them revoking my admission for not being honest and upfront if they receive my shitty transcript from the first uni after they decide to admit me.

>>10132070
Yes, it will look bad.

>>10131770
machine design is really that hard?

>>10132108
No, it was one of the easier upper division classes. Dynamic systems is much, much harder.

>>10132122
>Dynamic systems is much, much harder.
is that the class that deals with transfer functions and PID controllers?

>>10132108
>hard
its just fucking time consuming.

Are there more ground-breaking research opportunities in computer science or mechanical engineering?

>>10128721
i have job in polymer production, but enjoy the research and development more. Production seems to be just stay on top of the operators and call contractors to get a quote

>>10132391
yeah
next question?

>>10132215
Yes,

>>10131878
>>10131883
pls respond

How do I learn everything there is to know about diodes and BJT transistors in one afternoon? I want to cry.

>>10131786
>When I search "software engineer," I run into control systems jobs looking for C programmers with EE or ME degrees.
Stuff like this is more akin to CS, but anything that deals with computer security, or ML is gonna require a degree.

>>10133230
read your course notes lol.

>>10133336
I didn't attend the lectures. Am I done?

>>10133344
Yes, you lazy fucker

Is it worth getting involved with undergrad research? Between classes and extracurriculars and everything else, I'm not sure whether I should try to fit it into my schedule. For the record, I'm interested in getting a Master's, but probably not a PhD.

>>10133344
I hope you at least read the textbook and made notes.

>>10133369
yes

>>10132274
why is it so time-consuming?

>>10131770
I don't know about your school, but at mine the chemical engineering degree plan was 129 hours and the full-time minimum was 12 per semester. Upper level classes are rarely offered in the summer and most are fall-only or spring-only, so you would probably be looking at 6 years. There would still be some semesters where you wouldn't have enough classes available and some where you would need to do at least 15 hours.

Some better advice would be to take as many classes as possible early on when they're easier so you can maybe have a lighter course load at the end when the classes are harder and more time consuming.

Mechanical engineer here.
My job has basically nothing to do with what I learned in my degree. Is this normal? Some people from my degree are working at the same company as me and are using SolidWorks to draw stuff, but they are "designers" while I'm "project manager", which pays more and is supposedly a step up from them.

Is this normal?
I'm not asking to solve equations constantly, but holy fuck is this boring sometimes. I really do wonder if ME was worth it. I like to think that I wouldn't have been hired if I didn't have that degree, but I don't know anymore.

>>10133983
if the pay is good, and the work is simple, work on getting promotions so you can get paid even more

>>10134132
There must be more to life than this.

Pay is not good, but for now that is not a problem.

>>10134147
higher position = more responsibilities = more work to do
Department manager has a lot more shit on his plate than the project manager, and so your boredom will vanish in a flash

next semester's schedule is looking real grim lads

>>10114803
Exactly. Companies are also learning they can get H1B Pujeets at a low cost, and they'll just grind out whatever you tell them to do.

>>10116151
>dumb people are a cancer and the reason why I can't get a job. If only there were fewer dumb people, companies would be all over my D

>>10117641
>loves linear algebra
So, you know about 3 MATLAB commands?

>>10117767
Take the hyperlink out, unless you've developed some magic where someone can click a piece of printer paper.
Why are the EDUCATION & TRAINING bullets smaller than the rest?

>>10134652
Also, why is SUMMARY left-justified and not underscored like the other section headings?

>>10134631
didn't pajeet visas get changed recently to cost a fuckton at a minimum?

>>10133983
ME here too.
It can vary. I've had a job in project controls, the work I was actually supposed to be doing was boring. So I spend a couple hours per day doing things I wasn't asked to do. I made software tools to streamline work for myself and people I work with.
Now I'm doing flow assurance and it's very technical, a lot of simulations and design.

>>10134893
>I made software tools to streamline work for myself and people I work with.
I started doing that, too. I made a simple autohotkey gui with a few options to make my life easier, but now I need something more powerful, so I started learning Java.

Can you study engineering at uni and still go to societies, bang sluts, have fun?

It’s the only reason I haven’t joined the Army yet.

>>10135745
yeah sure

>>10135758
Awesome

>>10113748
>Why is Mechatronics or Bio Engineering a meme degree?

My school's top in the country in BME hehe xd

>>10116369

Undergrad programs are usually not good and make you a ajack of all trades, making it hard for one to find a job after college. Going to grad school is the best option,

>>10135745
Not if you want to graduate. Engineering is the ultimate cuck major and I regret every single bit of it.

>>10135919
Cheer up crew cut.

>>10135931
My coworkers are all miserable, underpaid cucks with ugly wives who work 60-80 hours a week. And now I got memed into becoming one of them. Should have done medicine like my parents warned me, but I fell for the memes.

>>10135966
That’s why I’m joining the Army afterwards crew cut.

Anyone from the UK? I’m doing an MEng in mechanical engineering.

The UK is so fucked for engineering. Shit wages, no job prospects and most of the time you have to do 3-4 tests before they even consider you due to shear amounts of applicants. Ive started to apply for finance jobs as well just praying that I will get a job.

I always fuck up on the phone interview. I need to look at someone to gauge their reception and change accordingly. How tf can people be charismatic only through voice?

/rant

>>10136032
What uni?

>>10136032
When I worked at McDonalds they said if you smile while talking on the headset you cond across much more polite

>>10136032
The US is the same way. Engineering is just a shit career choice.

>>10117767
>>10123181

I agree with this anon. Don't use the term:
>engineering professional
It sounds too similar to "Professional Engineer," which is a legally protected term that can get in you some hot water if used by an unlicensed individual.

>>10135976
>joining the military after you get your degree

Real talk, if you are less than 2 years into your engineering degree you are better off dropping out and going in as enlisted. Finish the degree with the GI bill when you get out. Officer is only worth it if you are going to make it a career.

>>10136045
Uni of Manchester. So a well established research university
>>10136047
And did you do it? Did it work? I’ll honestly try anything.
>>10136149
It’s a meme, from what I’ve heard from people that have landed themselves a job. It’s just sitting down working on excel sheets and running FEM and CFM simulations.

That anon who “gets paid to think” has my dream job atm, props to him. If you’re here anon tell me your secret

At least with finance there’s more substance

Today the teacher teaching the 'Static Mechanics' course told us to use 10 for g and that she always does so aswell (previous job she designed big steel constructions so she was an actual engineer). The meme is fucking real, kill me already guys, I hate it when you are right.

>>10136500
Assuming gravity is stronger makes your building safer.

>>10136529
>professor sets gravity to infinity

>>10136500
What is a safety factor for two hundred, Alex?

>>10136500
Built in safety factor, pretty common in civil

>>10136500
So the construction can withstand a higher gravity.

Cope harder dumbfag.

>>10136500
at least it's better than using g=10ft/s/s

>>10136529
>>10136553
>>10136555
ok that seems fair but were solving shit such as calculate the force on the balbalbla when lifitng a crate. its not 10, I mean they're anal about literally everything (including significancy) and suddenly a 1.9% error doesn't matter. I guess it doesn't really mater and its easy ok im turned.

I'm applying to another university and I have to write why I want to attend said university. How many words is appropriate? 1500 words is the limit.

>>10136553
why not find some mathematician to look for the most optimal number bigger than g and use that. what are calculators. implying you're fucking doing math in your head when desinging stuff

>>10136377
>Officer is only worth it if you are going to make it a career.

That’s the plan.

>>10136430
Did your course involve doing a year in industry?

>>10136570
Write out all the important reasons you're a good fit for the university. However many words that takes is appropriate.

If what you come up with is substantially shorter than 1 page, maybe take a look back and ask yourself why you have nothing to say, but anything over a page is enough and shorter is usually better for these things.
Admissions committees have to read these stupid essays until they're blue in the face, and they're much happier to see a guy who fit everything he needed into 700 words than a guy who rambled about bullshit so he could have a 1497 word essay.

>>10136047
>>10136430
I was told this at my service job too and I thought it worked. I smile when I'm nervous so it's pretty natural for me to sound polite and happy but I have to work on layering on the personality during phone calls.

>>10136571
>being this blatantly retarded

What's the minimum level of education required to call yourself an engineer?
A PhD?
A bachelor's?

Can you call yourself an engineer if you have a master's in engineering but not an undergraduate in engineering?

Can you call yourself a "Full Stack Software Engineer" if all you've taken is a 5 month certificate course? I saw this on Linkedin and I thought it was odd but I don't know software engineering so maybe that's fine?

>>10136722
It’s subjective. I’d say bachelors minimum with 1 years minimum of professional engineering work experience

>>10136722
At least a bachelor's and either working a full-time real engineering job or licensed as an engineer.

Software engineering is barely real engineering.

>>10136722
Software Engineering is kinda a meme title. It's what my job is called but I have a master's in ECE and do heavy math R&D work. But then there are also 'self-taught' web kiddos who call themselves engineers for the ego boost.

>>10136430
>If you’re here anon tell me your secret

always keep in mind that your ultimate goal is to create value and impact the bottom line. once you've proven you can do that autonomously you will find yourself with your own expense budget and so much free time that you end up posting career advice on a 16th Century Spanish Vihuelist message board.

is petroleum engineering dead? I heard it was a high demand job but since we running out of fossil fuels umh,, yeah

im maybe going into it (high school)

>>10134645
kek

>need to pick electives for junior/senior year
So much pressure. This is literally it for me now, no way do i prolong my stay in uni. I’m out in 2 years and i can’t decide on a path for my electives. What should I do? I’m in EE at a bay area CSU. I’m fine with anything that isnt robotics.

How do I learn controls engineering in 24 hours? A job I applied to is sending me a take home test.

>>10137078
Just get a Chegg account.

>>10137099
What topics should I study? Apparently they're really big on kinematics as applied to robotic arms, which I know absolutely nothing about and don't know how to get started with.

>>10137006
Take math and programming instead of anything engineering related.

>>10137006
You should seriously consider switching majors if you're only two years in. Graduating with an engineering degree is just shooting yourself in the foot right now.

>>10137111
Lol dude idk. I said get a Chegg account to pay someone to walk you through that test.

>>10137117
yeah, this is good advice. two years in is still an acceptable time to switch majors and still graduate on time.

i feel so bad for all the engineering majors nowadays that were fooled into thinking they'd find a good-paying job.

What the fuck, why is the general consensus in this thread that engineering fucking sucks. What should one study in STEM that doesn't fucking suck?

>>10137190
>What should one study in STEM
There's your problem. That entire term is just a buzzword designed to meme gullible children into shitty careers. As long as there is an oversupply of applicants, employers don't have to pay salaries that match the difficulty or amount of education required to do the job.

>>10137190
>write code for an app that lets people send dick pics
>$120k starting salary
>write code to control extremely complicated industrial fiber placement robots that build aircraft, requiring advanced knowledge of software, engineering, mathematics, and physics
>$60k starting
You can't explain that.

>>10137194
Well, I think I fit in more with something that is... mathematical in nature. I like to think of myself as a decently intelligent dude and I want to apply it in this life

>>10137204
I can. People are fucking retarded and entertainment is more valuable than what actually matters

>>10137246
If you were actually that intelligent you would use it to get rich.

>>10114803
>Engineering is a meme. The market is oversaturated. Only retards go into ME or EE expecting a good job right out of college.

That's it I'm gonna kill myself guise first day on /sci/

>>10137145
I cant switch majors without graduating within two years. Everything requires prerequestes which will take an additional 1-2 semesters. I’ve already been a sophomore for 3 years and I cant take it any longer.

>>10136722
When you have an engineering job.

>>10137078
The TA from my control eng class made an absolutely beautiful 10 page summary.
I'd give it to you if I wasn't scared of my uni taking my degree away.

>>10137204
>60k starting
jokes on you i'm about to start my job with 53k starting

>>10137285
I didn't say anything that implied I was "that" intelligent like I was some kind of genius. I used the word "decently"

>EE grad student tell me to do analog/digital EE for jobs
>/engi/ says engineering has no jobs
What??? I fucking hate this, i just want a job after college.

>>10137899
i just want a job after college.
If you only want jobs you should have done CS.

>>10137913
freshman me was told CS was a meme by everyone here. I fucking hate the internet

I'll be starting my master's in Systems, control and mechatronics next year and I'm wondering which direction I should be taking in elective courses if I want to be as attractive as possible in the market of automation.

Course Packages
http://www.chalmers.se/en/education/programmes/masters-info/Documents/MPSYS%20Systems%2c%20Control%20and%20Mechatronics_brochure%202018.pdf


Webpage for program
http://www.chalmers.se/en/education/programmes/masters-info/Pages/Systems-control-and-mechatronics.aspx#second-page


There are course packages in like Autonomous Systems, Powertrains, Embedded Systems, Machine Learning, Process Control, etc. What would be most aftersought?
AI and Machine learning seems too memey and niche. Embedded Systems or Control & Signal Processing will probably be more attractive, no?

I’ve got a place for Aerospace at a pretty good uni nect year. You depressed mofos are making me think of doing maths instead. But nah I’m good.

>>10137933
>listening to anyone on the website where losers and rejects congregate
Are you fucking retarded? How did you manage to even get a degree?

Can you recommend me any books on numerical analysis? I've been using "Numerical Recipes - The Art of Scientific Computing - William H. Press"

>>10137204
luxury and hedonism are more attractive to the peasants than productivity

>>10138029
>when sending dickpics is considered the height of luxury

>>10137767
Why would they do that? Please anon, I will even trade you for my best memes.

>>10137078
You don't deserve the job. Leave it to someone who knows their shit (e.g. me).

>>10138045
Heck off. I've done controls, but I don't have a lot of formal training.

>>10137194
this

salaries have been stagnating for engineers. You gotta give credit to all the suit-and-tie wearing corporate douchebags. they fooled so many stupid for their advantage.

if one wants to go into a career designing electric motors and other electromechanical devices, is it better to study EE or ME?

>>10139297
Move to china. Nobody in the US does that.