/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10122894
their language isn't like a human language. it's more similar to birdsong.

or more close to home, you know when a baby is crying or laughing or obviously wants something you are holding, they express it through vocalizations that are very clear but not bound to syntactical rules. any cat owner will tell you that their kitty develops their own vocabulary with different expressions for different things. adults even laugh and cry and say things like "hmmmm!" or "ughhhhh". plus humans associate real emotional meaning with various forms of music

in other words, there is no human-like syntax in dolphin language. they just have a highly developed understanding of what they mean by their sounds, without formal rules like we do

>>10122898
So could we mimic sounds that convey a deep meaning of "You're a faggot"?

>>10122898
>any cat owner will tell you that their kitty develops their own vocabulary with different expressions for different things.
That's because cats are really good at manipulating people. Among feral cat colonies though they really don't do a lot of vocal communication outside of threat displays, or the awful yowling of cats in heat.
Dolphins and whales do though, some have more complex songs than others, some that get longer over the year and then change during the season. They also have names they identify with and greet each other.
Obviously it's not going to be an offshoot of indo-european with anything vaguely familiar to us because of lack of a common reference between a person and a dolphin. I mean we both get hungry and want to fuck, but the basic experiences are so different that you can hardly compare. Just by virtue of having grasping hands and opposable thumbs we can manipulate out surroundings in a way you cant with flippers and a nose hole, meanwhile they "see" in sound and their language could be more about the "shapes" their sounds make than the sound (like "speaking" braille).
If you're really curious, look into a guy named John C. Lilly. He's an interesting character, to say the least.
https://youtu.be/x3IUTV5K8Uc

>>10122894
I did not read what everyone had to say but you had me at "let's be dicks to dolphins. I have your back.

>>10122894
You do realize they can basically shoot lasers from their heads, right?

>>10122898
>ny cat owner will tell you that their kitty develops their own vocabulary with different expressions for different things
Anyone who says this is a fucking moron desu.

>>10122894
all animals are sentient, you mean sapient and they are not sapient.

>>10123596
Who's side are you on?

>>10122894
>get a load of this human who's actually proud of his reliance on dumb metal stuff and bad smokey stuff
>yeah I told you, that's how they all are

>>10123632
That is funny but not as funny as f'ing with dolphins

aren't octopus more smarterest than dolphin

>>10123632
> And then they were driven to extinction due to climate change and ocean acidification.
Get fucked you squeaky brainlets. There can be only one.

>>10122898
citation needed?

dolphins are capable of understanding arbitrary grammars, have names, and can collaborate to improvise.

dolphins apparently emit high pitch vibrations to emit 3d holograms under water

>>10123893
no

>>10123893
Octopi are fucking magic compared to dolphin. Someone threw up a video about some actual studies claiming that they may be aliens. Science and funding. What'ya gonna do. YouTube vids on mimic octopus will blow your mind. F dolphins.

>>10122898
Then how are they sentient?

>>10125028
>Someone threw up a video about some actual studies claiming that they may be aliens.
Well that killed off all credibility pretty instantly.

>>10123593
agreed

>>10123618
the side of cephalopods and cetacea, humans must be exterminated with extreme prejudice as soon as possible so these beings can inherit the Earth.

>>10122894
not many people know this, but dolphins reproduce by gang raping female dolphins.Check this if you don’t believe me.

>>10122898
>t. Marine Biology major who makes $40k/year

>>10125308
Dolphins rape everyone. Where you been?
Tip: you can't rape the willing.

>>10125308
>dolphins reproduce by gang raping female dolphins.
Without arms or legs they don't have any way to keep themselves together. You need a buddy you can leverage against.

>>10125497
Funny. But you try and rape a dolphin with your arms and legs and let me know how far you get. Watch your back tho!

>>10122894
i too have wondered why they've not built cities.

>>10122950
>John C. Lilly
oh the ketamine addict with the shit tier website? he d3d.

>>10125507
You seem to have an insight. Maybe you could describe us your experience rather than asking for a hypothetical?

>>10122916
Find a dolphin who can say "opee" or something

>>10125514
Don't forget isolation tanks. But he got started out working with dolphin communication.
Not saying he's the most credible source for good science, but he was an interesting dude.

OP is the kind of person who'd have made the Arecibo message depict two guys fucking with their middle fingers up

>>10125567
I'd actually make it a KKK lynching.

>>10125515
My gf claims to be the victim of attempted dolphin rape but I think that she is full of shit and it was actually successful but she won't admit out of shame. Who can defend against a dolphin? They whip shark ass

>>10125567
>not sending pictures of dicks into deep space
They need to know what they're getting into. BHC

>>10125582
>Who can defend against a dolphin?
Glorious Nippon.

>>10122898
Part of the reason they have that huge brain with more processing power than ours is because they have to learn each others' languages quickly. Gtfo with that birdsong shit and read some Niven you leotard-wearing ogre.

>>10125567
Gay porn is the only universally accepted thing we know of.

>>10122898

Proof or walk it back, please.

If you have proof of a lack of semantics and grammar, that would be interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgJl4bONOqc

mandatory

>>10125604
She is japanese. ??

>>10125634
What parts of these big brains are most developed? Humans do not need to go around thinking about hydrodynamic efficiency and stuff wants to eat me and what can I rape.

>>10125748
So dolphins think about hydrodynamic effieciency but talk in birbsong? Uh huh.

>>10125577
Ooo edgy

>>10125748
remember it's the outer layer that does all the work, and the more wrinkled it it the more work it can do

>>10125783
That's not comparing the language parts we want to know about. Although it wouldn't be at all a surprise if the data isn't known yet. Also it's a sure bet there's more redundancy to enable them to do that half-sleeping trick.

>>10122894
I don't want to be a dick to dolphins, I want to dick dolphins

>>10125940
They're pretty horny, I hear. You might get more than you bargained for, if there are a lot of dolphins around. The one you start with is going to tell the others while it's happening.
>NO FUCKING WAY, THIS HUMAN WANTS TO FUCK OH MY GOD LOL
>YO THIS IS SQUEAK I'M FUCKING A HUMAN RIGHT NOW, COME LOOK
>DUDE LOOK AT HIS DICK IT'S ALL BLUNT AHAHAHAHHAHA

I bet they playfully bite each others' dicks too. I hear they're gay about 80% of the time; when it's not mating season they roam around in separate groups of males and females but don't stop fugging each other.

>>10122894

Can a man seduce a dolphin??? A friend whats to know.

>>10125998
Absolutely

So it seem that dolphins use their big brains for humping?

>>10125980
God I wish I lived near dolphins or was a dolphin, that sounds amazing

>>10126015
lol gross

>>10122894
have a classic maymay

All animals are sentient and all animals are sapient. Stop spreading this bullshit meme.

>>10126020
>not wanting a taste of dolphin poon
What are you even living for

>>10126021
If you don't wanna fuck with dolphins, get out of here!

dolphin bump

>>10127598
Not too hard.

>>10125748
>Humans do not need to go around thinking about hydrodynamic efficiency
And you don't drive a car and think about aerodynamics. Or consciously notice the constant micro adjustments constantly happening in your body to keep you from falling flat on your face constantly.
Also dolphins are about as hydro-dynamically sound as you can get. You couldn't design a better form for cutting through water than the dolphin developed naturally.