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10106267 No.10106267 [Reply] [Original]

Legalized hard drugs would improve society since it places a voluntary selection pressure against impulsive behaviour.
They'll all OD and remove themselves leaving only humans with self control.
Prove me wrong.
You can't.

>> No.10106298
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>>10106267

>> No.10106304

>>10106298
It hasn't been tried but theoretically it should work.
Okay whatever debate me.

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>>10106304
>theoretically it should work.
Not convinced. Get some evidence, demonstrate the theory.

>> No.10106323

>>10106314
Black people are kept down by keeping them addicted to cocaine. Easy.

>> No.10106326

>being a politicized human being is a form of mental illness
>prove me wrong, you can't

I won't discredit this idea outright, OP. I understand that it makes all the sense in the world from your perspective.

I can tell you, however, that I am a former opiate addict who, prior to being prescribed pain medication, never had any sort of issue with addiction, compulsive behavior, or self-control (and I dabbled in a bunch of activities that would've spiraled out of control had this been an underlying issue).

My experience with opiate medication was entirely different. It was not a question of denial, nor of lack of resources - it was just that life without opiates became impossible, and withdrawal proved prohibitively difficult.

There is a small segment of the population which is ultra-resistant to any kind of impulsive behavior (anecdotal), including opiate abuse. For the vast majority of human beings, however, I do not believe this to be the case.

I'd welcome a response. I apologize if this came across as a "muh feelings" post.

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>>10106323
I'm not sure that's necessarily true either.

>> No.10106331

I read in germany cocaine used to be legal. apparently it was one of freud's favorites

>> No.10106332

>>10106323
Citation required

>> No.10106333

>>10106331
Obviously it was legal in every country at one point

>> No.10106370

>>10106326
Okay but the entire reason people try out drugs in the first place is because they're impulsive.
Drug resistance is secondary to this in my opinion. Hard drugs are dangerous for the vast majority. But people who do them in the first place were too impulsive and therefore bad for society.
Your issue is different because you were medicated and of course you don't deserve and addiction because of taking medicine.

>> No.10106374

>>10106370
People don't get hooked on pain medication out of impulse. I don't think you read a single thing he said.

>> No.10106378

>>10106374
Yeah that's sad and it's a medical problem. Don't prescribe addictive opiates as pain medication.
But we still need to legalize drugs for all the shitstains.

>> No.10106382

Do we need to clarify OP probably means hard recreational drugs?

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>>10106382
>>10106378
kys, OP

>> No.10106978

>>10106391
Hey no

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>>10106329
Optimized.

>> No.10107002

>>10106267
And before they OD, they rape you in the ass. Google "wet head" and see what they do to people.

>> No.10107039

1. Not many people want to take hard drugs. Most people go as far as alcohol or weed. Cocaine and MDMA are probably a distant third, because that's quite heavy stuff already to be honest, but still kind of a party thing.
The thing is, people are happy taking soft shit, like caffeine, nicotine (technically probably the strongest stimulant, but it's microdosed in cigarettes), weed and alcohol. There's a debate whether alcohol is hard or not (I lean towards hard; and addiction is very prone to happen, but most people have a decent grip on it). Anyway back to the point at hand: people don't do that shit because they don't feel like exploring alternate states of consciousness, they don't want to lose "control", or they're scared (of becoming addicted). The third point might be because of the social stigma "drugs" get. The argument we can make is that people who do want to do drugs, will find the drugs and will do them because they're literally everywhere, legal or not. I'm not convinced the legal status is such a big threshold for people not to try something out.

2. People will get more educated, harm reduction will happen, less people will become addicted, there will be entire industries that will flourish because of this. There will still be people that can't control themselves, but there can exist safety nets and counseling for these people. Sadly not everyone can experience the fullest array of what this world has to offer.

3. For those that do venture into harder drugs, they will experience some life altering things. Psiloybin, LSD, cocaine and MDMA change your perception of life. Cocaine, maybe not so much, but the rush, the power you get for around 1h from just a little line is impressive to say the least imo.

>> No.10108036

>>10106329
I would like to quote Yasiin Bey's Mathematics to convince you otherwise:

```Like nearly half of America's largest cities is one-quarter black/That's why they gave Ricky Ross all the crack```

>> No.10108053

>>10106267
Why wait for them to OD? Death penalty for addicts.

>> No.10108070

>>10106298
Fippy Bippy

>> No.10109027

>>10108053
No that's murder