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1010521 No.1010521 [Reply] [Original]

It's shallow to believe that after we die and our bodies become a slab of meat, that our thoughts and memories are extinguished into nothingness.

Heaven has been misinterpreted over time. It's a mental plane of joint consciousness.

I'm not a believer of any religion as such or a devout atheist. I wouldn't call myself agnostic either.

All sides seem a bit narrow minded.

Grow up, /sci/

>> No.1010530

Still waiting on any shred of evidence, broski, I've been asking for 2000 years and still nothing...

>> No.1010542

you know i dont follow any religion but i agree with you /sci/entist i hope you're not a troll

>> No.1010548
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>>1010521
do you like just making shit up?
makes you feel better?

0/10

>> No.1010546

There is no compromise.
If there is no evidence, its most likely bullshit.

>> No.1010556

1.SMOKE DMT!!!
2.???
3.EVIDENCE!!!!!

>> No.1010570
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Trolls everywhere today!

>> No.1010573

>>1010542
No trolling.

Immediate example.

Lightning used to be an act of God. It is now universally accepted that it is built up electricity discharging.

>> No.1010589

>>1010573
Indeed God has been used to fill gaps in knowledge over time, but you can't ignore that it has also been used for absolute bullshit in terms of law, murder, and making the claim that when you die you'll go to some magical place and live forever.

Our thoughts and memories are left behind in the actions we take during our lifetime. You do not ascend to some magical plane when you die, according to what evidence we have. Come up with some real evidence to the contrary and I'll give it some thought. It's been thousands of years and still, no evidence.

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>>1010573
>Lightning used to be an act of God.

To who? Retardes? No intellegent person ever belived that bullshit.

YOU NEED TO STEP YOU TROLL GAME UP!
0/10

>> No.1010601

>>1010570
>>1010548

No, not trolling. A compromise means a step forward.

If it were proved that Heaven existed (metaphorical) then both sides would be happy.

Atheists "SEE - TOLD YOU - SCIENCE"
Religious "SEE - TOLD YOU - HEAVEN"

>> No.1010602

9/10

I almost wanted to join in on this thread.

>> No.1010611

>>1010601
Compromise can be reached when both sides actually have evidence to support their claims. Where's religion's?

>> No.1010609

>metaphor
>real

one or the other faggot

>> No.1010606
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God is a metaphor for "a wizard did it"

Heaven is wishful thinking.

I have been trolled.

>> No.1010603

COMPLETELY AGREE

>> No.1010619

>>1010611
have you seen a RAINBOW man?

FUCKING RAINBOWS, HOW DO THEY WORK?

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>>1010601
What does Atheism have to do with science?
There is no correlation between them, so wtf are you talking about?

WHAT ARE YOU LIKE 12? TRY HARDER TROLL! HURRY UP I COULD USE ANOTHER LAUGH!

>> No.1010635

>>1010596
You're the only troll left in the thread.

I'm not saying heaven existed - If it does I think it's misunderstood. However, to understand both sides, the idea at least needs to be entertained rather than rubbished because it sounds ridiculous.


4Chan : 942 AD
"DERP - EARTH IS FLAT, RETARD"

"But can't you entertain the idea of gravity?"

"DERP - YOU FUCKING IDIOT. IT'S NOT BEEN PROVEN EVER DERP DERP DERP"

"sigh"

>> No.1010638

>>1010619
refraction of light through water vapor

>> No.1010641

>>1010629
atheism is scientific point of view, isnot it?

>> No.1010642

Hey OP, how about killing yourself to find it out?

>> No.1010643

>>1010635
Not him, but guess how that all changed?

Evidence.

>> No.1010646

lol Dualism

consciousness is part of the human body, the human brain, they aren't two separate entities.

>> No.1010648

Reality has no interest in what you "feel".

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To keep with the spirit of the board...

>> No.1010679

I was a scientist long time. But you know, this is same shit as religion is. And not the best religion - trust me. There are better religions - I am staunch. For example - Christianity. It provades you believe and hope. If you learn what really christianity is you will see - its much better.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis

CS Lewis, a staunch Atheist for most of his life. Switched to Christianity towards the end of his life because he believed that to believe was more interesting than to believe in nothing.

He attended many debates and chaired many meeting arguing against the beliefs of Christians.

Slightly off topic - It's recently been discovered that the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe has a secret code within it.

>> No.1010729

>>1010573

I see lightning quite often.
However, I never once saw any heaven.

Fuck you and your retarded comparisons.

>> No.1010733

>>1010712
>The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
If you're too far in the closet, you'll find yourself in a queer Biblical fantasy world?

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>517375

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>990211

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>596364

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>134702

>> No.1010755

>>1010733
/sci/ is embarrassed on your behalf. That was quite simply pathetic.

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>982397

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>806432

>> No.1010831

why is it shallow to believe that our thoughts and memories are extinguished? Our brain is the center of thoughts and memories, when we die it ceases to function. maybe its our soul that is carried on into another entity if you believe in reincarnation. hows that for a concept?

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>724271

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>682868

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>699968

>> No.1010846

>>1010573

You don't compromise with religion, because religion is unfalsifiable to the religious. You don't reason with the unreasonable, you don't rationalize with the selectively/irrational.

Religion is simply the spawn of ignorance, as long as humanity kicks education into full drive religion will promptly cease to exist as the public becomes less ignorant. You can do YOUR part not by "compromising" with these baseless ideas in the OP and voiding any semblance of empiricism and the scientific method we have built our newfound knowledge on, and instead inform those around you that are misinformed, because that's what so many people are. You do this not by telling them they're wrong, or that they're stupid, you do it by being a genuinely reasonable individual with an interest in educating and sharing knowledge with the public.

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I wish /sci/ was as wise as Prot.

>> No.1010974

it's a mental plane of joint consciousness
>No different from any other religious belief, wishful thinking with no reasonable evidence to back it up. Grow up, anon

>> No.1010994

>>1010974
How ironically narrow minded of you.

You believe that this. is. it. then?

I do too, but at least entertain the idea. Look for proof before saying "there is no proof."

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>320749

>> No.1011030

>>1010994
What are you talking about? Most of religion is by definition infallible. Proof-supported religious beliefs is an oxymoron. And of some actual proof were to pop up I doubt that it wouldn't reach my ears as well as all over the world, so I don't think I need to dedicate any time at all with hypothetical. But whatever makes you sleep at night.

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>986229

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>957008

>> No.1011051

>>1010994
There's a huge difference between throwing out strange, out-of-the-box ideas about a subject and just making shit up.

The former is something you can only do properly when you've mastered the subject, the latter can be done by anyone and everyone and thus provides 99% of all the bullshit.

Guess what you're doing.