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Why is it easier to memorize a long sequence of words than memorizing a long sequence of numbers?

>> No.10105281

>>10105168
Less information density.

>> No.10105314

>>10105281
I'm looking up "information density" and can't find anything relevant on the difference between digits and words. What do you mean by density? Wouldn't words by their very nature be more dense, since they are not only more words than decimal digits and their meanings are more complex, but also simply longer?

>> No.10105319

>>10105168
Do you mean like 100 words compared to 100 digits? Or 100 letters worth of words compared to 100 digits? Or 100 words compared to 100 numbers? Or 100 letters worth of words compared to 100 digits?

>> No.10105333

>>10105319
Case A through C. I suppose in case D the difficulty is even.

>> No.10105339

>>10105333
Oh, I misread the last one. I thought it said "100 letters compared to 100 digits"

>> No.10105577

Probably it's easier to build relationships between words than letters. "Green horse ankle" vs "16 3 29"

>> No.10105683

because you have been memorizing sequences of words for use in every day life since forever and you hardly ever do any fucking maths

>> No.10105696

It's easier to chunk words then it is to chunk numbers.

Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs

as opposed to

94941257919673883827792265121499

>> No.10105832

>>10105168
Words carry meaning. You connect them to feelings, places, times, objects, and so on - this is great for memory. Numbers are often just numbers, they will slide right through your brain because you don't connect them to anything substantial. So you don't remember them as well.

>> No.10106368

Unless you're a turbo autist, words have more semantic content and mild-depth processing makes memorization easier

>> No.10106406

Semantic entailment and semiotic scaffolding.
Simply and informally put; you can remember a long sentence of words because they have are logically related to each other. It's quite easy to remember a sequence of numbers like primes and Cardinals because of this. You don't really remember the form of words or numbers, you remember their meaning. This is easy to see with semiotics and mereology/set theory. Linguistic symbols carry alot more meaning, which is what you remember, and so does their expression in sentences, so implication is typically stronger for the meanings of words and sentences than the meaning of numbers and sequences.

>> No.10106943

Our brains rely so much on visual imagination, we evolved developing this function. Combined with symbolic intuition and sounds from the throat we can transfer data in order to cooperate in nature to survive and even make this world great

Speaking words feels built into us, even being silent... inside our heads those neurons keep wiring with each other.

>Every word can be related to each other
>Every word can be related to an visual image, symbol or arquteype
>We mostly think in words and images not in numbers

The brain has its own capabilities.

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>>10105168
You're just more used to words. I have a shitload of produce codes memorized because I'm a cashier.

>> No.10106968

all depends on the sequence and how easily you can relate it to something you already know.

suppose you had a sequence of numbers that is your ip address, social security number, zip code, phone number and your mom's phone number. it would be easy to recall that number rather than a random sequence of words of that length.

in general our short term memory can store between 5 and 9 bits of information. the list of the 5 numbers I gave you is 5 bits of information in your head even though there's a lot of digits in each of those 5 bits, whereas the random sequence of words would need as many bits as there are digits in that sequence, making it much larger and harder to recall.

for making websites and apps they say 3-7 bits, and you'll notice those numbers in most places.