/sci/ - Science & Math

Ive slipped into nihilism after years and years of athiesm. To the point where I wish I could believe in a god but I just can't bring myself to believe a lie. I just perform my societal functions and try to be a decent human.

>>10094924
There is no higher purpose. Purpose is like morality. Without resorting to magical beings, there is literally nothing in the universe that can give you an objective basis for it no matter how hard you look but they're both something we desperately want to exist. The premise of nihilism is indisputable but the conclusion isn't.
"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

>>10094924
Purpose requires something that would have it. Like creator, person with intent, I guess humans can assume whatever in this position, just to avoid fact they have none and have to define their meaning on their own.

>>10094924

yes, and also I've finally reached the truth.

every single person which studies science, does research, wins nobels does it for the same reson and motivation.

to get the big ass titties of the lab coworker.
no exceptions, there is no higher call.

>>10094924

I do believe there's something that created all of this. That something obviously isn't bound to cultural perceptions in time and space.
No, it's some undefined "thing" that "started" all of this.

Sure, we can argue with the typical "Yes, but what created 'the thing'?"
Well, creating is a verb, this is something our minds and brains use to convey messages to each other. That "thing" isn't bound to how we convey messages to each other because that "thing" created it. Whatever it is, that "thing" can turn that on/off "at will". It's similar to asking the favorite coffee blend of the number 3. I think it's called a category mistake or whatever philosophers have decided to name it.

>>10094924

I only believe things that have been empirically proved.

>>10094924
>atheist nihilists

We hate those faggots.

This question is not properly thought out when most people encounter it. This is because we have already been provided answers by a selection of religious doctrines. These religions are now largely irrelevant in the face of the truly astounding amounts of information we now have access to.

Stop imposing a personality upon "god". God is the universe. The universe has a purpose. The universe does not need reason or logic to explain itself, it simply is how it is.

The purpose of the universe is simply to exist. To grow, to obfuscate and complicate. To make more of everything. The universe could be doing this without any consciousness. Certainly any consciousness of a god or the universe would not resemble ours.

We are a manifestation of that purpose. Here we are multiplying. Stabilising (or such is our intention) and spreading out.

When/if we leave the earth and foray among the stars I believe we will uncover a greater purpose for ourselves and the "intentions" of the universe will be made clear as we gain a greater understanding of existence.

I believe our end purpose is to bridge the gap between the mechanical parts which make up our cells and the untames and wild universe. Eventually we could turn the universe into a stable series of complex machines and defeat entopy for good.

Survive. Multiply. That is the mind of the universe. That is our manifestation. More will be revealed if we embrace the possibility.

>>10095477
I figured the board was mostly those.
>>10095730
So you basically think we become Downsteamers

>>10095916

I'm not sure that we will be able to do such things as individuals but we will create some kind of superconsciousness when we start retiring into computer systems and at that point we will be able to simulate anything.

Downstreamers are so far beyond us I don't even know if such a thing is possible. However I do believe it is possible that we have some kind of "soul" which will sustain our consciousness post death.

But I don't know. What I do know is that there is a lot we don't know and a lot of what we think we do know is not 100% proven.

>>10094924
High or low doesn't matter when you are one.

Being a nihilist is easy, but its an unhealthy mindset. if you allow it, it will seep into every aspect of your life.

>>10094924
I used to be a militant atheist, but nowadays I'm just chilling. Let people do what they want. Honestly, the idea of being able to atone for anything bad you do by just going to confession or something is quite appealing. There are good sides to religion, but the bad sides are quite bad. Especially when you consider it's extremely unlikely to be real. I just hope that when I die god doesn't send me hell cuz that would suck.

>>10095338
If such a thing can exist without a creator then what you believe was created can exist without a creator.

>>10095916
>I figured the board was mostly those.
big bang theory is not a reflection of the scientific community

gb2 >>>/tv/

>>10098061
>militant atheist
This phrase is so fucking hilarious. "Militant religiosity" means murdering people, "militant atheism" means saying mean words to adults with imaginary friends. How fucking silly are you to perpetuate this atrocity of language? Dumbass.

nuking china

>>10094924
I'm a zurvanite but otherwise a materialist for the purposes of navigating my reality tunnel anon.

>>10098257
>atheists dindu nuffin evar

kek, people seriously believe that too.

>>10094924
our higher purpose is to contribute to the hive colonizing itself into the galaxy and destroy all other life forms.

>>10098257
>Stalin never killed religious people for being religious
>Mao never killed religious people for being religious
>Pol Pot never killed religious people for being religious
>Antoine Lavoisier, the father of modern chemistry, wasn't killed nor were many other religious killed in the Reign of Terror as militant atheists ushered in their "Cult of Reason"

Yes, militant atheism (just like communism) has never been tried and all earlier examples weren't true atheism™. Atheists were totally the perpetual victims in history.

>>10094924
I am a Muslim. I was an atheist for a while, but I switched to Islam after getting a little wiser.

>>10098322
You don't get to cherrypick what an atheist is. Just because they tolerated religion does not place these monsters above religious zealots.

Athiests are fast becoming the new cult dynamic in our species. Bunch of morons believing in nothing because they are too lazy and arrogant to accept how little we know about reality.

I bet all the other religions cover up and deny the brutal acts they have committed. Why would atheists be any different.

>>10098302
"Atheists are incapable of religious violence" is as dumb as "communists are representative of atheists".

I believe we have to create a heaven on Earth through scientific and technological progress. I don't think this is capable through humanity though, a more evolved and compassionate species will be able to though.

>>10098427
>atheists
>religious

>>10098439

If the definition fits use it.

>>10098439
>repent of your religious ways else we will go back to the dark ages
>donate to the freedom from religion foundation now

>>10094929
>lie
While it's not exactly truth, it's not really a lie either. It's as valid as your notions of 'societal functions' and 'a decent human'.

>>10095343
No you don't. You don't realise that you don't because you're ignorant and unreflective.

>>10095343
Nothing in life is certain

I've been an atheist through whole life but since I was thinking about simulation hypothesis I came to conclusion that quite possibly there's a "god".

>>10094924
The problem isn't whether or not there is any meaning to all this, but if the concept of "meaning" exists at all outside of our subjective perspective. Right now, there doesn't seem to be any evidence to suggest that it does, and unless we do find some we can only conclude that there is no such thing as an underlying "purpose" in the universe as a whole, but that it is instead an arbitrary system of interacting forces, energies and matter that don't have any intelligent guidance.

On the other hand, if we as humans do have some underyling purpose, then it is rather straightforward. As far as we know, Humans are the only living organisms that are sapient. Earth is the only known planet to contain multicellular life. While it's statistically improbable that we're alone, it's at least safe to assume that we are a member of a select few individuals that have the ability to explore the universe we inhabit. It's been speculated that sapient life exists as a means of the Universe to comprehend itself. We are a part of the universe, and yet we continue to discover more about ourselves and the cosmos at large. So it could be that our only purpose is to unravel the mystery of what the universe is and how it works.

>>10098579
Hmm, never thought of it that way.

I've gone to become kind of an hedonistic nihilist. Life is there to enjoy it and period.

It seems like nihilism either makes people chill or total wrecks

>>10094924
Belief costs me nothing so of course I believe.

>>10098547
>that pic
>being that no fun allowed

>>10094924
Studying evolutionary biology, and considering the fundamental theorem of calculus as a metaphysical principle led me to process metaphysics and the development of a worldview entirely different from nihilistic atheism / reductive materialism and theisms. It is naturalistic but accounts for subjective human experience and describes it as an evolutionary process.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Tao_of_Calculus/comments/9rpnrl/space_taoism_101/