/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10079850
>what is ranch

>>10079870
Yes, what is that?

>>10079850
>taste better

Because people don't care about that as much as how it looks. They spend their money on the prettiest. They give the companies money and the companies give them what they want. You are an outlier, someone who wants something different than the mediocre majority.

>>10079850
It's called sugar/fat. Have fun killing yourself with your shitty food preparation skills.

>>10079850
taste is a subjective experience hyuk hyuk

The taste depends on the quality of the soil which means soil rich in nutrients for the plant and time to process the nutrients. You also need to be careful about the number of fruits sharing the same roots as they will share the nutrients which can lead to each individual fruit not receicing the ideal amount of nutrients. Bees and pollination probably have also something to with it as well as the weather.

As you can see this is a very expensive process and exchanging some of these with artificial procedures would skyrocket the costs even further.

Now how would you use genetic engineering to cut the costs but still keep the quality? Making the crops grow faster ruins their taste the most so what else is there? The best would be to somehow make even the average soil into great soil but improving soil beyond a certain quality is really expensive. Soil quality around the world is actually declining for decades now and it makes our crops worse with time.

>>10079895
>exchanging some of these with artificial procedures would skyrocket the costs even further.

Why in the world would that be? It would massively decrease costs and difficulty, precisely because the production of taste components can avoid the natural need for nutrient-rich soil etc to create them. It can be modified to direct pretty much all its available resources into making itself tasty rather than the gazillion other things evolution made it prioritize.

>>10079905
You have no idea what you are talking about. What are those taste components you speak of? Coffee has over 850 documented volatile aromatic components.

What you suggest would need artificial flavoring of the next level. A nutritious fruit is what people generally define as a tasty and wholesome one. Define "taste better" and define "taste components".

>>10079926
>Coffee has over 850 documented volatile aromatic components.
Now how many of those only account for a negligible proportion of the taste experience and can essentially be ignored and still have a tasty end result? My guess is like 98%+. Even if they still need a balanced blend of like 100 components, that's totally doable if they just do the RnD.

We've already been doing it for thousands of years through breeding. Wild bananas taste like shit. We'd just need to directly do the modifications we need rather than relying on the brute force of directed evolution.

>>10079934
And what is your guess based on? The development of decaffeinated coffee is actuall well documented so we already know how delicate the flavor is. OP I really lost any interest in discussing this topic further with you because of your sheer ignorance. You are just throwing out questions and guesses like a kid. You obviously haven't done any research before making this thread, not even a small google search. Fuck off with your shower thoughts.

>>10079890
are you sure of that?

>>10079850
The bad taste is not the fault of the strain or variety of berry or fruit. When you buy strawberries or apples at the store, unless it's peak season, they've been sitting in cool, deoxidized rooms for storage to prevent ripening before traveling quite far to sit on a shelf for a while. During this time, the aromatic compounds responsible for the flavor in the fruits slowly decompose or escape into the air. Textural changes can occur because of the prolonged cooling and potential temporary freezing which causes irreversible changes to the cellular structure of the fruit.

One way grocers combat this is to order the produce ahead of it's peak ripeness so that when it arrives at the store it's ripe. But it's hard to time perfectly and it's difficult to tell the ripeness of certain fruits.

But you can experience truly delicious ripe fruit by buying frozen fruit. Frozen fruit is packed at peak ripeness and the flavors are maintained.

They DO taste better, dumbass. People with no knowledge will claim the GMO foods that tastes better then the organic, and then claim that the GMO must have been the organic one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_IoNQHMFLk

>>10079850
> more resistant to disease and pest
Is that another way of saying pumping them up with non hotchkins lymphoma? Because truly if they were Monsanto wouldn't have to spray round up

>>10080409
>testing 2 different cultivars for which one tastes better

Not much of a metric since the cultivars they are testing there taste like ass in the first place. The place I worked at grew GMO Flavr Savr. When compared to Purple Cherokee, the Cherokee wins hands down. Which, is still not a good metric to go by.

>>10081016
'Most' GMOs are just resistant to weed killers and nothing more. It is the hybrids that are mainly for disease & pest resistance.