/sci/ - Science & Math

Memorizing all the numbers. Mathematically feasible if I have infinite amount of time.

>>10076559
i already have pretty much unlimited time and i can't do the one tiny result i've been working on for years because i get stupider and stupider from being on the internet all the time so just remember for many people, as deadline distance goes to infinity rate of progress goes to zero faster so the limit of total progress as time to work goes to inf is zero

I always get depressed pondering unfulfillable dreams.

>>10076576

And what would those dreams be?

>>10076559
>computer science

>>>/g/tfo

>>10076577
Everything. There is not a thing I could not do. God is just someone with a lot of time.

>>10076589
this is incorrect. Your individual brain is limited in for example, the amount of things you can hold in consideration simultaneously. There will be problems that can only be solved by considering that many +1 or +3 factors simultaneously.
There is no amount of training you can do to be at that level, unless you manage to in the mean time solve brain upgrade which is outside the spirit of OP i think

>>10076603
What don't you understand about infinite time anon? Time is the ultimate resource.

>>10076614
why don't you address what i wrote please

>>10076644
I'm not the same anon, but the other guy is correct.

>>10076650
thanks for adding your weight behind the comment that does not address what i wrote. If you cannot change something with time, infinite time is not relevant. I get that with infinite time all things that can occur will occur an infinite number of times blah blah but that doesn't relate to the OP question of you an individual somehow living an infinite time and working on a math problem that you cannot solve i.e. it cannot occur in the first place

>>10076559
Optimized.

>>10076603
You write it down with the rocks so you don't have to remember.

>>10076667
ah see i knew you didn't understand what it means to have to hold concepts in play simultaneously. People who have never tried to do hard abstract thinking can't really conceptualise it. They think you could just
>write it down so you don't have to remember
and move between the parts of the problem lmao

>>10076559
>computer "science"
Not science or math.

>>10076673
>>10076581
We get it, you're sad that you're too stupid which is why you're pursuing biology. It's okay to be retarded.

>>10076657
Talking about impossibility in a situation our species can't even properly comprehend is impossibly stupid.

>>10076687

See what happens if you delete pain.

>>10076768
i can't trust a picture that calls physics and chemistry mathematically rigorous

>>10076768
Optimized.

>>10076559
P = NP

Advanced pattern analysis.

Self perpetuating algorithms.

>>10076687
>You fell for the biology doesn't involve math meme.

Physics: Glorified daddys boys that cling on to mathematicians coat tails hoping some of their knowledge will rub off on them.

Chemistry: Consistent and keep to themselves because they KNOW that both disciplines overlap into it.

Biology: Easy rote memorization until you reach the genetic sequencing and coding aspect. Then you either die or become a god. There, "-logy". It's in the fucking name brainlet.

>>10076559
Optimized.

>>10076768
Physics and chemistry is for people that are too socially inept for a business.
Business is for people too impatient for computer science.

>>10076559
lmoa this guy thinking hes smart enough to rederive modern physics even with infinite time.He couldn't even rederive non-shitty comics after 20 years.

>>10076814
Optimized.

>>10076673
Computer science is literally part of Math.

>>10076559
Robo waifus

>>10076559
how long can i wank for?

If I have an infinity I can solve infinite amount of problems. Is it some kinda brainlet test for /sci?

>>10077172
it's just not true. you're assuming that it's possible for you to solve the problem. if there's a 1/1e10 chance of you solving a problem (by accident i guess?) on a given day then yes, you would. If there's 0 chance, you wouldn't. There are problems you have 0 chance of solving

>>10077182

I can't have a zero chance. I just can accidently write a correct proof of some theorem or some other thing with infinity of time.

>>10077188
but how would you know it was correct? I mean, sure you could write an infinite number of proposed proofs and never know which one was correct. I don't think that counts as solving.

>>10077204
Test each theory, you have long enough.

>>10077204

Same way as in real life. I can start with bases of math to, step by step, come to my solving and proof it.

>>10077212
hmm is everything testable? if so you'd almost convinced me except that i my original claim that there are concepts too complicated to hold in a particular individual's head at ANY time (precluding understanding these theorems) would also preclude testing certain results

>>10076670
dude I was just making a reference to Last Crusade because I saw it a short time ago. Get off my ass.

>>10077215
this doesn't account for the limits on capacity that are independent of time. I mean, do you think after a long enough time Tara Reid could deeply understand some of the most abstract results in mathematics?

>>10077218
Now we're going to biology. We can say that everyone can understand every thing have as much time as it need or betray abstraction and say that some people just too stupid. Result depends on condition of our experiment.

>>10077220
I don't know what you mean by betraying abstraction... i mean i guess if you spent enough time doing drills that reduce something abstract to an analogy to something that's already in your set .. maybe you are developing tools that mean even though you're stupid you can eventually answer the abstract questions easily... i dunno.. and can you do that by yourself...

>>10076581
Computer science and computer science students are two different things. Theory groups from CS grad departments are chill and work on hard math problems.

>>10076660
Optimized.

trying to proof finity :(

>>10077035
Math is part of computer science.

>>10077188
Not all open problems necessarily have proofs, some might merely have one contradiction needed to disprove it. Euler's sum of powers conjecture was an open problem for nearly 200 years before someone found a counterexample.

>>10076559
I'd work on whether time was infinite.

>>10076589
>God is just someone with a lot of time.

I'd argue God is someone standing outside of time and chuckling, but I see what you are saying.

>>10076936
Optimized.

>>10077656
r34 NOW

>>10076563
nah, you can only memorize all natural or rational numbers that way

>>10076559
None of them, yet with infinite amount of time i will solve all of them.

>>10076559
Sleep.

>>10076855
So you're saying it all loops around?

>>10076559
All of them

>>10076800
P=0
Or N=1
Why do brainlets even come to this board?

>>10076559
Find a way to algebraically solve quintic polynomials.

>>10079020
such a funny joke that never occurred to any first year student before in the world

>>10079033
Not a first year. I have my PhD in algebraic sciences

>>10079020
(You) for cute asian grill

>>10079020
Retard
>>10079033
Based, look up any pop-sci P vs NP video and scroll down to the comment section to see redditor basedfaggots thinking they're clever for making this joke. >>10079020 You should be ashamed of yourself

>>10079634
Not a joke. I wrote my dissertation on this faggot. You're probably a twenty year old virgin living in your moms basement. Fag

the universe is not a simulation and that thing he's doing is just a bunch of rocks, and literally NOTHING more than a bunch of rocks

ai

>>10077188
you could write the word niggerfaggot and theoretically some human or any other being could interpret that as being some correct and coherent proof of a complicated theorem in their own super weird language and math syntax. >>10077204
is right. you could write down in english and modern standard math notation a correct and coherent proof of something by total accident given enough time, but that's completely meaningless. you wouldn't have solved the problem any more than writing niggerfaggot would have solved the problem.

>>10079020
It's weird that you got 2 responses shitting on you for this when someone always makes this joke in almost every related thread and has for years. Why this particular thread to shit on it? And why this particular day when I was thinking about this joke being posted here earlier? Seriously a few hours ago I was for some reason thinking about how people post this sometimes, and then came onto /sci/ and immediately saw it.

>>10080174
i would normally assume it was some blow in youtube commenter and leave it but since the guy posted with a busted asian munt cunt dog face picture it seems more like a regular who you think could refrain because it's just so boring and unfunny. i mean triggering people with unfunny trolls is all well and good but god that face is so upsetting. i want to put a bag on it and smash the bag with a kettle bell

>>10076559
All of them, that's what infinity means, stupid

>>10076768
>biology isn't mathematically rigorous
Maybe at your brainlet university

>>10076559
>if you arrange some stones in the right way, the system of stones develops consciousness and becomes alive
>this is what materalists and functionalists literally believe
Amazing.

>>10077652
>outside of time

>>10082023
Consciousness means the ability to perceive and make judgements based on it so no that is not what they believe unless they don't understand anything, kind of like you don't.

>>10083237
But why shouldn't you be able to simulate it by coding that information in literally anything?

>>10082023
Actually, a pure materialist would say that this isn't possible. A functionalist would say that this would work, but the comic says nothing about true AI, only a simulation.
>>10083237
No one knows what consciousness is, don't fool yourself.
>>10083250
You should be able to simulate it, given enough rocks and time, though not to exact perfection.