/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10068414
everything related to quantum phiyics

that God exists.

>>10068474
(((quantum physics)))

>>10068414
How this reality really works
http://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

absence of proof is not proof of absence

>>10068509
This, but I guess it's off topic here, so...

Maybe the fact that ALL naturally occurring amino acids are "left handed," yet if you brew up a batch of them in the lab, you get about half and half left and right-handed.

>>10068786
There is a total absence of any proof that there is a yodeling sperm whale in my kitchen. I find this compelling evidence that there is, in fact, no yodeling sperm whale in there.

But I can go look again, if you think I might be wrong.

>>10068414
OP is a faggot

That my consciousness inhabits this body for some arbitrary reason.
Why this body in particular? Why is there consciousness in the first place?
You'd think if it was real it would be equally distributed across all matter but for some reason it's localized in me and (supposedly) other people.
Really makes ya think...

>>10068835
>faggot
Why the homophobia?

>>10068414
Daily reminder to have a space alien at all times. Do not suck the mason cock.

>>10068414
That theres something instead of nothing i cant wrap my mind around it

>>10068824
left handed people are smarter. All the people made by right handed amino acids were retards and naturally selected off.
Not really surprising.

>>10069485
Isnt like right hand is connected to the left side of the brain which is responsible for critical thinking and thus they're more likely to be more capable of complicated linear thoughts, i am left handed and something i know things without the need to follow a linear thought i just know it and i cant explain why in a manner that people would understand but often im wrong, i work as a codemonkey not having a clear linear thought process makes my job difficult for me i feel dumber than my colleagues that are all right handed and they dont go for intuition unlike me

>>10068414
for a brief moment I thought I was on /vr/ thanks to the carmageddon.

Everyone is female before testosterone masculinzation process. God made mankind in his (((image))). E.g. God is a woman. Mike drop:-D

I meant ergo not i.e.

Defeminization and masculinization are the processes that a fetus goes through to become a male.[citation needed]

It has often been said by biologists that in sexual differentiation in mammals, the female is the "default" developmental pathway, in the sense that elimination of any of several gene actions necessary for formation of male genitalia leads to the development of external female genitalia (though development of functional ovaries requires effective action of several less understood sex-specific genes

>>10068414
within 200 years, the gap of technological advancement between then and now will reach proportions similar to the gap between middle antiquity and the present

Nuclear energy has killed fewer people than wind or solar on a deaths per unit energy generated measure.

>>10068414
That the sum of all natural numbers must equal a natural number

>>10069704
How can that be true? There is an infinite amount of natural numbers

>>10069739
not him, but the total set of natural numbers cannot be an infinite set while it approaches infinity so the sum will always be natural approaching it.

>>10069698
[X] Doubt

>>10069753
300 years if you believe in a slow progression, I'm just being optimistic.

>>10069479
we can't even begin to comprehend "nothing"

Peanuts are flying across the sky

>>10068837
and why is it localized in this period of time rather than, say, 1000 years ago

>>10068414
RIP.

>>10068829
There is no evidence that you have qualia and aren’t a p-zombie. The lack of evidence means you, as of now, are most likely a p-zombie.

Cosmological axis of evil

>>10068414
Everything you know is wrong.

>>10068414
single-celled organisms eventually developed apotposis as a fitness maxing strategy, our ancestors used to be biologically immortal and "chose" or were selected so that they would die and this allowed the vast differentiation of life forms on this planet. Had we remained immortal there would be nothing but the most simplistic replicators on this planet and they would have likely gone extinct since they are less hardy than other forms of life here now. Also, life on Earth went extinct almost completely (for all intents and purposes completely) multiple times but kept restarting and eventually we hit some rhythm that allowed it to persist through multiple mass extinction events. Very cool.
>>10069943
the term p-zombie is incoherent so we don't have to regard it, there's no reason to believe anything like consciousness exists.

>>10068509

>>10069698
>>10069761
other than the government keeping it hidden, this already happened between now and ten years ago

>>10068849
Op is always a faggot, faggot

>>10068414
a way to kill fruit flies without having to kill them by yourself.

>>10070048
>>10070048
>consciousness doesnt exist

this is literally the dumbest idea i've ever heard and if you genuinely think this you are void all moral considerations and ARE A LITERAL NPC

>>10070506
Most people tend to show a negative response when they encounter this idea. I think its just a self deference mechanism the thing you believe to be you consciousness created in order to justify its own existence.

It's kinda like a social construct. just because something is made up or imagined doesn't mean its not real. It's just not real in the way you'd like it to be ,maybe.

>>10070534
You are right and wrong consciousnessis an illusion but ask yourself what is not a illusion when you touch something youre actually touching an electric field and not the object itself
Simple things create complex stuff it doesnt mean the complex is not real because is made of small stuff

Just read up on gamma ray bursts, apparently they aren’t shit.

>>10068414
we are all star dust

>>10070162
Based and redpilled

>>10068509
It is interesting how there is more proof of that Jesus is the son of God, than there is proof of God himself. Even discounting the miracles, knowing that IQ is hereditary, it seems impossible that somebody born to commoners could have such a penetrating understanding to be able to reinterpret the Bible, the charisma to create his great following, and still the delusion/conviction to stay true to what he said he was even when it meant his painful death

>>10068414
The fact that I haven't killed myself yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain

nothing crazier not even p vs np or riemann hypothesis

>>10068414
The average iq of niggers,

>>10068824
I'll bite. Enzymes are specific to only the L-amino acids because that happens to be the one that stuck. And if the lowest on the food chain uses L-amino acids, only L-amino acid-synthesizing predators could use their biomass for protein synthesis.

>>10068414
Traps are gay.

The axiom of choice is fake and homossexual.

>>10072375
https://youtu.be/PX9RfvTWeJU?t=22m50s

We actually see in 2D

>>10070428
>a way to kill fruit flies without having to kill them by yourself.
Do tell.

>>10069687

>>10072392
L and R amino acids are basically like big and little endian, pick one and keep it consistent.

Earth is flat

>>10072370
>proof of Jesus even existing
no such thing

>>10073174
The Quran mentions Jesus but that's just because Islam branched off from Christianity. Sort of like how Buddhism branched off from Hinduism.

>>10073186
>Quran
600 years after
not proof

>>10073174
>man how could people not care about this random jewish cult leader in Israel that got killed

>>10073227
yes but do you like my shrimp?

>>10073233
evidence, motherfucker

>>10073174

>kike historian

ya ok

>>10072373
Optimize some stuff.

>>10069748
It sounds like you're saying the natural numbers aren't an infinite set? Just because it's countable doesn't mean it's not infinite

>>10073174
Is this a fabricated quotation? Ehrman has written multiple books about the historical Jesus including one specifically debunking the "Jesus didn't exist" hypothesis.

>>10068414
Dragons are real.

>>10074698
>i have no argument

That the answer to the question of Climate Change, if it does exist the form described by the mainstream, can most likely only be countered effectively with a massive reduction in the total number of human beings living within the biosphere, barring miraculous breakthroughs in terraforming capabilities.
No race/civilization seems to be as individually suicidal as Caucasians however, with even the Chinese walking back on their population reduction methods, and so the likelihood of this actually occurring on magnitude great enough to prevent hypothesized catastrophe approaches zero.
Picture unrelated.

>>10074812
feel free to list claimed jesus mentions etc.
here, from years 1-100

>>10074831
If your criteria for a person existing in antiquity is contemporary sources, many historical figures such as Hannibal would not have existed. Just because we don't have surviving contemporary sources about the majority of people who lived in antiquity, doesn't mean they dodn't exist.

>>10074857
Except the majority of what we know about him from those sources comes from the records of the Roman state, not the word of mouth bullshit the Christians.
Not him, use a better example moron.

>>10074866
But there are non-Christian references to the historical person Jesus, such as from Josephus and Tacitus. You really have no idea what you're talking about. Nearly all historians agree that a preacher named Jesus existed in Nazareth at that time. Jesus mythicism is a debunked fringe theory.

>>10074812
The statement itself doesn't say he doesnt believe in the existence in Jesus Christ. The Quote claims that no roman documents have any mention of Christ.

>>10070828
Its not the same, there is a nuclear force and electrons which causes the repulsion, the sensation of solidity is basically correct since of course all those atoms actually do constitute the idea of an impediment for your hands, you just assumed it was only material hitting other materials and not nuclear forces repelling each other. But consciousness just does not exist at all, there is nothing like it whatsoever, not even at the macro level as an "emergent" property. Its all disparate and diffuse neurobiological processes at every point. Your "consciousness" of yourself is not even most of what goes on to produce your consciousness or in your background thinking much less most of your brain activity, its a tiny sliver of your "mind" and that is a small portion of brain function at any given time not to mention that you don't have conscious awareness of gene expression or the intermolecular dynamics of your organs. You're a helpless deluded pair of eyes peering through a tiny sliver of self-referential (largely incorrect, coarse grained and illusory) internal representations of external stimuli. Every aspect of your inner life is an amalgamation of external experiences and the phenotype of your nervous system dancing around in one component of your mind-brain. So, its nothing like the repulsive force of atoms against your finger, it just does not have any substance ergo nonexistent and fake.

>>10074828
Optimized.

>>10069704
>-1/12
>natural number

>>10074894
Reread my post, I'm criticizing your retarded "there're no contemporary sources for Hannibal existing", when there very clearly were, I am not the anon you initially started the argument with, use a better example you moron.

Heroin was originally introduced as an over the counter drug and it was marketed as non addictive

>>10074894
Tacitus, year 116
Josephus, Jewish (and year 94)

try again

>>10068509
Yes. This stuff blows my mind.

>>10068414
Zen Buddhism is the one true religion

>>10074953
Let me rephrase, we don't know about his existence because of contemporary sources because none of them have survived. We only know about him because of accounts written after his lifetime, by people who probably had access to those sources. The same is true of Jesus of Nazareth. Didn't mean to say that there never were any contemporary sources which is what you thought I meant?

>>10074971
>muh arbitrary criterion that no one cares about

>>10075317
>i have no argument

>>10075315
what i meant is that
>>10073174
is accurate

>>10069468
What did he mean by this.

>>10075349
The quotation is not wrong, but it isn't an argument for the nonexistence of Jesus. Because so few primary sources have survived from antiquity, it is unreasonable to expect primary sources that mention any historical person, namely one of many Jewish apocalyptic preachers.

>>10074971
>asks for non-Christian sources from years 1-100
>doesn't accept a Jewish source from 94
?

>>10073174
>Bart Ehrman
>Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazarethis a 2012 book by the academic and authorBart Ehrman, a leading scholar of theNew Testamentand writer of over twenty-five books (including three college textbooks) in that field of study. In the book, written to counter the idea that there was never such a person asJesus Christat all, Ehrman sets out to demonstrate the historical evidence for Jesus' existence, and he aims to state why all experts in the area agree that "whatever else you may think about Jesus, he certainly did exist."

>>10075472
ehrman can think what he wants
but it's just speculation
the evidence is what >>10073174 says

and remember, all this is still a light-year away from saying that there was anything godly about the character

>>10075472
ehrman can think what he wants
but it's just speculation
the evidence is what >>10073174 says

and remember, all this is still a light-year away from saying that there was anything godly about the character

>>10069468
But masons are good guys anon.

>>10075543
But it isn't "just speculation", it is the consensus of nearly everyone who studies this period of history. You can look up this subject, or look at the evidence Ehrman himself uses to support his claim. He didn't just pull this out of thin air. Secondary sources aren't automatically invalid because they are secondary, and primary sources aren't automatically valid/unbiased because they are primary.

>all this is still a light-year away from saying there was anything godly about the character
I agree.

>>10075775
It isn't based on evidence.
believe me, if it was, they'd wave it in your face.
But all they have is a mess of conflicting stories, all written centuries after the claimed events.

>>10075472
(((Ehrman)))

>>10069514
He fell for the right/left brain meme...

>>10075786
fuck off back to >>>/pol/

>>10072392
But is there any actual reason that an organism that used both would not be possible -- and if both were turning up in roughly equal numbers, the organism that could use both would have had a lot more of those sweet, sweet amino acids to work with.

At the least, an organism that used the right handed ones might be able to avoid predation by the guys looking for lefthanded aminos to eat.

I mean, yeah, obviously something selected for the total exclusion of right handed amino acids in lifeforms on Earth. But why? Why not both? Why not some critters using one and some the other?

>>10075778
The writings of Josephus and Tacitus were not written centuries after the events they wrote about

>>10075797
Found the jew, lmaooo

>>10075807
>>10074971

>>10075810
found the pedo, youuu

>>10074903
Wait -- let's look at that a bit more closely.

First, how many Roman documents do we have that mention ANY provencial person from Judea by name? How many that mention some local carpenter in any of the small towns in the province by name? We don't have things like a list of trials carried out by Pilate. We don;t have the itemized expenses for cross-building, or any of the other records where you might expect to find some reference of a local carpenter-turned-street-preacher. If we had all of that (or any of that) then the absence of mention of Jesus would be worth considering. But what we really have a a lack of any documentation from the period wherein he might or might not be mentioned. Roman's were meticulous record-keepers, but there are many years/decades/centuries for which we have little or no contemporaneous source at all. And the further one gets from Rome, where all the stuff that was really important to them was going on, the more fragmentary our records.

The implication that "we went through all these exhaustive documents and couldn't find him" is misleading as Hell.

>>10075778
>It isn;t based on evidence, beleive me...

An extraordinarilt strange thing to waste time typing on a board that is:

1) About science.
2) Anonymous.
3) A noted hangout of trolls from across the larger site.

No, I don't think I'll believe something asserted without evidence, sorry.

You then back it up with some light hand-waving, and an incorrect claim. That didn't increase your likelihood of being believed.

>>10075811
Do you not know what the word "centuries" means?

>>10075823
>some local carpenter
if that was the claim all he was, who cares
but the myth says he raised quite the ruckus which involved roman authorities and strained their relation with local jewish kingpins
That kind of stuff leaves paper trails

>>10075830
autist semantics

>>10075829
ok show your evidence then

>>10075839
>Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.
Tacitus, Annals XV.44

>>10075892
116 years too late
Not evidence, no more than me making up tweets about what happened in 1902.

Eratosthenes' calculated the circumference of the Earth within a few degrees of error 2,200 years ago solely by calculating the variable differences between shadows on sticks during the summer solstice.

>>10076568
He was a Roman senator who had access to official Roman documents that no longer exist, and also explicitly denounced history that was based on hearsay and gossip alone. Modern historians agree that his history is one of the most authentic sources we have for what was going on in Rome at that time. But maybe he was just making shit up because anon on /sci/ said so.

>>10075829
>I don't think I'll believe something asserted without evidence, sorry.
Like pottery.

>>10076630
>the first source of the evil,
Well I'm sold

>>10076568
>116 years too late
Do you even realize Jesus wasn't 0 years old when he was put on trial?

>>10076725
your point is?

>>10068849
But I don't fear gay people. Gay people fear me

>>10076794
>i'm scared of what i see in the mirror
k
get back in the closet

>>10072702
what a retard

>>10076730
Your number is off by 30% or more and if you didn't even take his lifespan into account, who knows what else you overlooked when discussing his life.

>>10077068
85 years is long enough, you're being autistic

>>10077071
Long enough for what?
Not long enough to be a century let alone many centuries to satisfy your original claim and how many years did it take to actually catalogue and begin to publish the writings before they were all officially released?

>>10077080
>for what?
to separate the event, from the writing, by a lifetime

>>10077083
That is not when it was written, that is when it was released, it was a vast collection he could have been working on it for decades and it covered stuff even decades earlier than Jesus's trial are you saying all of that writing is untrustworthy too and anything written about the world wars by modern historians at this point has no merit either?

>>10077098
>That is not when it was written,
[citation needed]

>>10072383
cringe but redpilled

>>10069698
Nah, it's all about materials. At some point, it's going to become really fucking hard to get things that are fundamentally new, let alone have any beneifit. There is a finite number of elements. While there are huge numbers of ways to arrange said elements, there is no reason to assume that everything we haven't tried yet is better. Most random molecules you could make are probably completely useless, or just redundant.

>>10074725
Wow now it's not a gif file anymore dumbass.

>>10076630
All history is questionable. The only way to have an accurate depiction is if everyone everywhere wrote everything down all the time without making any mistakes.

>>10068414
most people have no clue what they are doing but act like they do

The Human Race doesn't die in fire, but in ice 12000 ad

>>10068829
There is proof of it's absence, you fucking pseudo intellectual.

>>10075786
(((Jesus Christ)))

>>10077624
(((Our Lord and Savour)))

>>10068414
bump

>>10078780
Why tho

>>10070828
>consciousness is an illusion
who then is being fooled by this illusion?

>>10068509
/thread

Cayley's theorem is the coolest theorem in Abstact Algebra. Second is orbit stabilizer theorem. Going from Lagrange's theorem to Orbit Stabilizer theorem is like going from Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to Stokes' Theorem. It's fantastic.

>>10072360

>>10068786

But proof of absence is the absence of proof - Doctor Neil D. Grass Tyson

>>10078860
>>10068474

>know
topkek

>>10068509
>>10078860

>know
topkek

>>10068509
This.

We don't know what water is

>>10079122
checked, elaborate

>>10079133
checked back
it's more of a philosophical idea that we don't know things in essence we can only measure and compare.

>>10068837
>Really makes ya think...
Not really. It's like asking why is the air in a balloon only inside that balloon and not everywhere at once.

Every gamete ever produced by anyone is different

>>10068414
That most stars are red dwarfs with lifespans of a trillion years or more, and will still be shining when the observable universe is roughly a hundred times its present age. On such a scale of time even the life and death of worlds like the Earth are brief episodes that, rare as they are, are concentrated mostly in the first few percent of it. Much as we rightly value consciousness as an end in itself, as art and beauty are, it is far more fleeting and incidental than our intuition about it can ever fathom, whatever happens to be knowable about it through intellect and abstraction.

You and I were once single-celled organisms for 30 minutes.

>>10079997
Possibly why the most beautiful word in the English language is 'ephemeral'.

gnosticism is truth

where are the smart anons? this is the best this generation has to offer? the progression of this thread flows like the dribbles of a butt sick homopleb

>>10068414

That consciousness is an emergent property of matter being able to sense and react to its surroundings.

All animals are conscious. Computers are conscious too, in a shitty and limited mechanical way.

>>10078786
why not?

>>10068414
There is a possibility to use ambient force such as gravity or heat to power machines.

>>10069687
>testosterone changes your dna

>>10069687
Female which grow dick meanwhile, is not a female, sorry.

>>10069687
this is actually right, female is the stock gender (I mean sex)
Swyer syndrome is when your Y chromosome never activates so you develop as a female with a dysfunctional vagina

>>10068414

we still don't know why we don't observe magnetic monopoles, there's no good reason why they shouldn't exist and yet they dont.

>>10080416
If animals are conscious why am I a human and not an animal?

The likelihood of me being a human in the 21st century while assuming this is my one and only life is insane considering how many animals there are and the billions of years that happened without humans. So either we're insanely lucky or reincarnation is real and this isn't the first attempt. Or maybe the animals lack souls so I could only be human. Maybe animals are the real NPCs and only intelligent beings can be players.

>>10080873
Dude, I would rather be dinosaur.

>>10080873

but humans are part of the animalia kingdom.

>>10080873

>>10068509
spbp

>>10080868
Not really true as you need two X chromosomes to properly develop all female characteristics. Beyond that "stock gender" means nothing, outside of disease all people either have a Y or an extra X that finishes their genetic information. A singular X isn't a "default" it's a flaw and not entirely female at that.

>>10080873
Human is subset of animal. Deal with it.

>>10080873
OMG like god must exist because what are the odds of existing on a planet perfectly designed for us????????

>>10068414
The pools on the titanic still contain water

>>10081489
minblown.gif

if the sun went out we wouldn't know until 12 minutes after the fact

>>10082633
>t. mr 4 minutes stupid

Spiders and dust mites are closely related.

>>10068414
shit exists

>>10068849
well, why not!?

>>10068414
Every cell in the body of a male bee, wasp or ant is genetically identical, including the sperm cells. All his sperm cells have an identical genome.

>>10079122
oxygen hydride?
hydrogen oxide??

>>10073044
Paying a poor person to do it.

>>10068786
No, but we live in a Bayesian universe, anon. One would expect evidence to exist; the lack thereof moves the probability of the proposition being true closer to zero.

>>10072832
this is a brainlet filter question and is true

>>10080873
I want to reincarnate to that dog that got raped.