/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10061376
>>TAMU B.S. in animal science, "oops" when he couldn't remember the Department of Energy in his list of agencies he wanted to shut down.

lelbertarians barely count as human.

>>10061376
This list is for the head of the Department of Energy by the way. What a fucking embarrassment.

>wtf republicans
You mean MODERN republicans. All fucked in the head. Even George W Bush had a chemical engineer in this position.

>>10061376

Why would you need to know physics to determine energy policy? You don't even have to use any science just listen to what the big oil & gas companies tell you. They have guys who spend all day working out all this policy shit.

>>10061455
that's not even the main task of the DOE. historically the DOE grew out of the Atomic Energy Commision, which was basically the manhattan project. so what the DOE mainly does is managing nuclear materials including nuclear fuel and nuclear weapons.

the other main thing they do, and the main reason why there should be somebody who knows their shit at the top, is they do a huge amount of funding for scientific research, and they run the US's national laboratories. Rick is totally unqualified to make decisions on what areas of fundamental research to fund, and totally unqualified to tell guys at LBNL or Fermilab or Oak Ridge or Brookhaven how to run their labs.

>>10061376
Wtf I hate blumpf now!! Impeach!!

>>10061455
>just let the oligopolist machiavellian corporations tell you what to do research on and allocate funds for
faggof
>>10061521
>conservatars 90 iq christfags are good cuz they’re not atheist vampires

>>10061455
I can’t tell if this is a joke or not

>>10061455
If you do a degree in physics people usually want you because you're able to solve problems logically. Knowledge of the actual physics won't hurt either. There's also no Head Of Department of energy degree

>>10061455
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>>10061376
>why would researchers who relied on gibs gravitate towards the Democratic party
I wonder...

Not that that's a bad thing, though. The National Socialists were very interested in funding scientific research and valued environmentally conscious policy.

>>10061496
You are grossly uninformed.

Moron the point of a government agency position is fucking patronage. If it was really about qualifications they'd have civil service exams of some kind. You think the political hacks appointed to higher level cabinet positions know what their doing? Fuck no.

>>10061553
how so

>>10061578
You're talking about the origins of a bureaucratic apparatus that has changed drastically over the decades. The Secretary of Energy doesn't have any direct input on the goings on of not just nuclear energy facilities, but any energy producing facility, period. It's a politics/policy/paper pushing position. Meetings over meetings and paper signing.

If a position requires some level of domain specific expertise, it will not be a political appointment, but hired permanent staff.

>>10061604
Also, this thread belongs on /pol/.
Sage goes in all fields.

>>10061530
It's not only not a joke, he's 100% correct, regardless of the political association of the Secretary of Energy. It's a completely political position. The guy is there for mostly ceremonial purposes. The specifics of policy decisions are cooked up by think-tanks and lobbyists. The SoE signs off on them, and has ceremonial meeting over ceremonial meeting with various people.

>>10061604
no, the DOE is the decision-making apparatus for how to fund research. of course there are experts working deskjobs reviewing the literature and deciding "oh, DUNE deserves another 100 million" who are well below Perry, but if he wanted to, he could shift their priorities. Trump himself said he wanted to direct more funding to quantum computing / quantum crytography, and it's actually happening (something like moving a few hundred million dollars between DOE pocketbooks). this stuff matters -- even the profs in my department are saying "how can we put a quantum computing spin on this?"

>>10061625
Point still stands: the nature of the position is such that Rick Perry is no less qualified than the other SoEs, since no scientific expertise is required for a political job.

>>10061550
no they did not at all

>>10061697
They passed some of the earliest Western conservation laws, as we would call them now.

>>10061710
those aren’t actually “environmentalist” it was volkish faggotry and glib appeals to romanticism. they produced more industrial waste and caused more damage to the environment than any other regime except the subhuman commies. Their pre-war production and psychopathic infrastructure building were horrible for German ecosystems and the war they wrought permanently altered cent and eastern european biomes. Fuck off you fucking nigger

The right wing has always been anti-science and anti-progress it makes total sense not to have educated people on top if they seize power somehow.

>>10061719
>comparing today's standards of environmentalism with the 1930's standard
Absolutely plebeian. They were fairly reasonable, given the time. My claim that they "valued environmentally conscious policy" still stands. The whole point I was making was that they were actually making legal strides to create some sort of environmentalist framework, while the rest of the western world was still dumping petroleum products into nearby rivers. And I'm going to need evidence that they were somehow more environmentally reckless than, say, the US.

>>10061721
>actually believing this

>>10061530
How do you think it would work out if they didn't listen to the big oil and gas companies?