/sci/ - Science & Math

Reminder to CA anons: If you have the time, drive out to Vandy with a pair of binocs. You'll be able to see part of the 1st stage reentry (unfortunately LZ-4 is obscured from the public viewing areas). You'll also get to hear the triple sonic booms.

Even if you don't bother driving to the launch site, anyone in LA & the surrounding areas should have a nice view of the rocket as it flies overhead.

And that's enough pics for now I think.
Here's to a successful fairing capture. I have a feeling they'll nab it this time around.

Hopefully they have Steve live footage this time

Meme company subsidized by the military industrial complex to undercut European and Russian launchers.

>>10053863
ELONMEMES GTFO PLS

This is a no brainlets /no shillers zone.

BUMP

>>10053863
corrupt OldSpace literally cannot compete LOL, the days of you stealing taxpayer money are over, shill

>>10053863
I didn't know that you lurked here Rogozin...

>>10053863
Based.

>>10053863
Delete this right now.

LIVE STREAM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr_C6LQ7mHc
PRESS KIT: https://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/saocom1apresskit.pdf

she's vertical

>>10053908
>oldspace

Funny you say that when spacex is experiencing extreme delays with commercial crew and will have to do an actual expensive in-flight abort test just to prove the safety of its escape system. Unlike Boeing where simulations are sufficient to demonstrate the capabilities of the CST-100 to protect the lives of the astronauts on board.

here's the mission timeline

Friendly reminder that all SpaceX fans are losers who spend all their time watching youtube videos and posting on reddit rather than having a real, meaningful career in something they like.

>>10054185
you posted this in the other thread and it wasn't funny there either

>>10053863
based

>>10054188
cringe

>>10054136
>Funny you say that when spacex is experiencing extreme delays with commercial crew

And will still launch two months ahead of Boeing

>>10054208
also, even NASA says that the reason for the delays are mostly on their end — all of the hardware is ready for the earlier dates. There's just more paperwork and red tape to slog through.

>>10054185
ironic considering reddit communists are the single biggest anti-SpaceX population, and are really seething that a private company is pushing spaceflight forward after decades of government stagnation

on the other hand, actual people in the spaceflight industry love SpaceX

>>10054225
literally everything you just said is wrong

Next launch is scheduled for November 19, anyone know why there is a gap of over a month?

>>10054231
reddit is that way <<

>>10054232
because nobody wants to sell launches to a meme company

>>10054232
Payload availability seems to be a big problem; however, the launch date for SSO-A from Vandenberg is supposed to be sometime in November, so hopefully that'll be before the 19th.

>>10054136
*hydrazine leaking intensifies*

>>10054238

>>10054249
only 18 launches next year

their business is dying

>>10054249
Doesn't even include Blue Origin or Virgin Orbit contracts. Meme graph with no basis in reality, lmao

You SpaceX nutters are truly delusional.

>>10054255
That’s mainly due to the GEO bird order shrinkage, and the wrapping up of iridium.

>>10054145
Huh, max q is 18 seconds earlier than a similar SSO F9 mission, PAZ. But the PAZ core wasn’t recovered

>>10054264
>Doesn't even include Blue Origin or Virgin Orbit contracts.
look at the years, retard, neither of those is launching anytime soon

>>10054264
Blue Origin didn't launch shit yet.

>>10054255
launch business as a whole is slightly decreasing, SpaceX still gets the most of the market, tough

>>10054255
>18 launches
>dying

that is more than anyone else except for the Chinese, you idiot

>>10054300
>>10054301
>doesn't know the difference between "awarded" and "launched"
Did you fail out of preschool?

>>10054311
What BO got awarded to launch in 2018?

>>10054264
>Doesn't even include Blue Origin or Virgin Orbit contracts
Does not change the overall picture

>>10054245
Not an issue. Spacex's dragon is more prone to dangerous hydrazine leaks due to the nature of its thruster placement.

>>10054136
>and will have to do an actual expensive in-flight abort test just to prove the safety of its escape system. Unlike Boeing where simulations are sufficient to demonstrate the capabilities of the CST-100 to protect the lives of the astronauts on board.

Wrong, they are both deemed equally safe and simulations are sufficient for both. SpaceX chose to do the test on their own. Just like they choose to conduct static burns before all their launches. They welcome anything that helps them achieve higher launch rate.

>>10054255
It'll be more than that due to delays; this statement from Shotwell was in the context of SpaceX doing 25+ launches this year, we now know this is not going to happen and several launches will likely slip into next year.
>>10054328
Try harder...

hmmm, doesn't seem like they will catch a fairing. Mr Steven is still in port https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:3439091/zoom:14

>>10054702
It's the waves, someone on twitter was going on about rough seas.

>>10054796
that's a shame.

7 bongs until the stream starts now

>>10054796
>21st century space technology company
>cannot handle rough seas
SHIGGYRO MATSUMOTO

>>10054820
>>10054796
well how rough are we talking here

>>10054820
I mean it's a boat with a net, not exactly groundbreaking tech. Apparently Mr Steven cannot operate in rough seas, because it needs to travel at a decent speed to catch the fairings.

>>10054839
I suppose they want a good factor of safety going into a catch. If something fails that big fairing could crash into the (manned) boat

short video showing the launch pad vs landing pad location https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann/status/1048996848965308417

Good luck Falcon chan!

any Argentine anons watching? This is a pretty expensive satellite for your country to be putting up. I believe the total cost is $500m US

Kek oldspace on suicide watch.

>>10054880

>>10054888
>you are now remembering the SES-9 back-to-back scrubs

>>10053863
>to undercut

That is how capitalism works!

owo

>>10055051
sir, this is a blue board

>>10055056
no u

>>10055065
yikes

It’s gonna be fun to scour twitter for people freaking out over the sonic booms and/or light show. Launch is an hour past sunset, so the length of the time the 2nd stage is illuminated for will be much less than Iridium-4

New spacex twitter pic.

I feel like I should be more existed for this first Vandy RTLS, but it's all so routine now.

Yus no shitty droneship camera

>>10055234
>then the fog rolls in
It is Vandenberg after all

>>10055051
nice panty shot.

2 bongs left.
>18 posters

show urselves you lurkers

>>10055338

>>10055357

>>10054839
>I mean
Stop this fucking reddit tick

>>10054125
>That badge
4chin space program happening after all

>>10055338
Force me to

>>10054884
>any Argentine anons watching?
Yes che! Unbelievably, we do have somewhat of an advanced, although small, space industry (same company that makes and sells nuclear reactors, radars, and more - INVAP). That's because, as everyone in /int/ knows, we're white.

>>10054264
oh wow so they know how to sign papers

>>10055379
That term has been in common use before the internet even fucking existed you colossal newfag.

110 minutes to go.
what are you all eating?
>I'm baking up some whole wheat bread

>>10055394
Stop it you fuck. It's a cancer on English.

>>10054264
Not gonna lie, BO is a decade too late to the game.
In fact, it's too late for everyone out there.
Any new competition will be easily undercut by SpaceX.
SpaceX succeeded because the market was overpriced 2 to 3 times. But BO won't benefit from that.

>>10055415
don't you mean a cancer IN english? how can cancer be 'on' something, lmao

>>10055386
is this launch a big deal over there?

>>10055419
>SpaceX succeeded because the market was overpriced 2 to 3 times.
no, SpaceX succeeded because they got over $5.5 billion in government contracts and over $3 billion in outside private investment

>>10054309
Chinese are doing over 18 launches next year? What the fuck? >>10054249

>>10055424
Well, how much did BO get to develop the BE-4 for Vulcan?

>>10055420
Are you playing stupid or are you just a non native English speaking sub human?

>>10055429
China has already done 26 launches this year.

>>10055432
Rip Aerojet Rocketdyne, heheheh

>>10055419
Yeah everyone else is too late to the game, especially because once BO or someone else finally brings a super heavy lifter to the game it will be WAY too late and SpaceX will probably be developing their next gen big nig rocket that will do like 300t or some shit.

>>10055442
there's going to be room for New Glenn when BFR is flying. By then Bezorkz will be worth 200+ billion and will go balls deep into cash burning with Blue Origin. After they develop some launch experience, New Armstrong will be under development.

>>10055438
Non commercial launches?

Fuck. USA getting dominated by the chicoms.

>>10055448
If Shotwell is spooked, you should be spooked.
https://spacenews.com/spacex-president-gwynne-shotwell-we-would-launch-a-weapon-to-defend-the-u-s/

>Asked if she worries about national security space threats from China or Russia, Shotwell replied: “As the president of SpaceX, I am concerned about the competition coming from China and Russia because they’re backed heavily by their governments. As an American citizen I worry more about China than Russia.”
>“I was hoping to beat the Chinese this year,” she said. “It does concern me that China is flying 40 times this year. And it’s not for commercial customers. They have very few commercial customers. So what in the world are they doing?” she added. “The fact that I’m not beating them is a shame. The fact that they’re launching 40 times is something we should all be worried about.”

>>10055459
Fuck

>>10055459
Chinks are obviously weaponising space, anyone with a fucking brain can see that. Half those launches will be spy sats and the other half will be experimental orbital weapons.

>>10055472
>China comes out with a BFR clone
>It uses hydrazine, because China
>goes off course on the first launch
>6 gorillion dead

>>10055472
>experimental orbital weapons.
Those dog eating shits are going to create a kessler effect at this rate.

>>10055479
*cough*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_missile_test

>This event was the largest recorded creation of space debris in history with more than 2,000 pieces of trackable size (golf ball size and larger) officially cataloged in the immediate aftermath, and an estimated 150,000 debris particles.

>>10055432
$200 million at best

>>10054255
Good thing SpaceX has a plan to create their own demand for more launches.

>>10055386
the team looks pretty white to me

>>10055488
more: https://twitter.com/CONAE_Oficial/

>>10055483
Well, they got robbed.
What are they, a charity?

quite crowded at the viewing locations. VAFB needs to put in more parking or something.

>>10055488
See? I told you so!

>LZ-4 is built on the former site of Space Launch Complex 4W, from which Titan rockets were previously launched.
neat

stream up fags, get comfy and post your favourite launch snacks, for me it's steak and eggs.

ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING READY

>>10055602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr_C6LQ7mHc

/aco/ reporting in

When will we see the first trap in space?

WE STREAM NAO

STREAM IS UP, whatcha drinking anon?
>walker on the rocks, no ice

>>10054264
Is that John from Papa John?

>>10055607
Bacardi gold

it's shit

>>10055600
costco cheese dip and chips

>>10055607
Not drinking tonight, but rolled a fattie, feelsgoodman.

>>10055612

>>10055613
Das it mayne

NO FAIRING RECOVERY

Damn I should've made the trip this time

>May hear a sonic boom

Yeah just maybe, kek.

>you are now remembering the super long 4:3 360p Bangladeshi propaganda video that accompanied the Bangabandhu-1 webcast

Damn that's some kino music

WUB WUB WUB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BA2POUhCOM

>>10055624
bangladesh superpower 2022

Who else /erect/ now that the US has upped its cosmic lewdness?

So much for rapid reuse and scaling up launcherate lol

>>10055411
drinking a glass of MoonX wine

>>10055605
>tfw you live to see free spaceship rides for degenerates

>>10055613

rip mr.steven

spoooky rocket

one day we will get those fairings

here we go lads

>>10055459
some of that are the final deployments of their Beidou global positioning system.

Also disturbing: there are at least three private Chinese space enterprises attempting launches. One of them is trying to duplicate the SpaceX reusability formula (landing legs for first stage).

god its so fucking beautiful

>>10055660
?

>>10055658
Yeah this has been a real kino launch

>That ground view
NUT

The CGI is getting really good.

>>10055665
DAMN SON

im hard

:Q_______

>>10055673
noice

HORY SHET DAT ENTRY BURN

>>10055673
NUTT

>>10055665
retards from california will be overflowing twitter all night about "did U SEE THE UFO?? OMG"

WHY CANT I HOLD ALL THIS KINO?

PRETTY AS FUCK LANDING.

ROUTINE

>the falcon has landed

THIRD TIME BOOSTER REUSE WHEN

>those ground shots

Need more ground shots in my life

>>10054884
yes, the guy speaking over on tv is a fucking idiot so came here for the stream

https://twitter.com/search?q=ufo&src=typd
https://twitter.com/search?q=ufo&src=typd
https://twitter.com/search?q=ufo&src=typd

ahahahahahahahaheheheheheh

>>10055684
Should be soon anon, then reflight number three, then four, then five, etc...each one following reuse two will be a shill holocaust.

>>10055689
Kek

Ive got a few pics bois

>>10055696
K I N O

I

N

O

>>10055689
Like clockwork.

so do i

Obligatory Muskposting

Just stepped outside to walk my dog and saw that, scared the shit out of me until I remembered the launch

>>10055695
literally hundreds of videos of people freaking the fuck out

it's glorious

I'm on the road and isn't able to follow the stream. Will there be a fairing recovery attempt this launch? Status?

>>10055699
NPCs must have been shitting themselves kek.

>>10055696

>>10055696
badass. stupid question but, could you hear it from that distance? I really want to head down to florida for a launch and wondering how close i'll need to be to be able to hear it? (assuming i can't get tickets to the viewing area)

>>10055704
No fairing recovery, apparently seas in the recovery zone are too violent for it to be safely done. Other than that the mission, both the primary objective (launch the payload into orbit) and secondary (recover the booster at Vandenberg) was a total success.

>>10055689
>still going at it
wew

>>10055706

>>10055702
Do they make an effort to let everyone in California know about these things before they launch? i imagine 911 gets flooded with mouthbreathers everytime one goes up.

>>10055706
Fuck that looks beautiful. Can't wait for the 4k videos
https://youtu.be/tE5C3O71Xqo?t=201

>>10055712
Local news will discuss it but there's no formal notice

>>10055707
>stupid question but, could you hear it from that distance?
nah, i live about 5 hours away from the launch site i think, i didnt even think to go outside and look because i originally thought it was launching from florida lol
my phone has a shit camera and i think i missed the best window to take pics

>>10055708
Thanks. Makes me wonder why they don't move Mr Steven to the east coast since they get more launches out there

Watching the 1st stage was fun

>>10055706
Noob question but what caused that huge plume? The fairing re-entering the atmosphere?

>>10055712
I'm almost certain the air force intentionally schedules their annual Minuteman launches at 3-4am to avoid this shit.

>>10055724
i believe its the lack of air pressure at altitude.

>>10054826
There was just a hurricane last week in the eastern Pacific. There's bound to be some leftover waves from that.

Ufo trending on twitter and YouTube

People screaming aliens and end of the world

>>10055724
exhaust gases expanding into the atmosphere surrounding the engines

>>10055724
Its the expansion of the exhaust plume into an extremely tenuous atmosphere. At that altitude there's probably less than 1% sea-level pressure. Combine that with the angle of the sun relative to the launch and the viewer, and you get an enormous spectacular exhaust plume.

>>10055236
Fucking called it.

>>10055737
how do you check trending on youtube?

seriously want to know this

>>10055743
Search ufo and set to new uploads

>>10055459
More high-profile people need to speak out about China.

>>10055746
okay, I thought they had a trending list that was real time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNGxVIqLAWI

Disneyland spacex

Finally got off my fat ass to watch the exhaust plume, was pretty dope.

>>10055753
that's a pretty good quality video

/pol/ is claiming the spacex story is a false flag cover up for chem trail op

>>10055762
why are you wasting your brain power considering that

>>10055793
kino

I live about a hundred miles away in the Sierras above Fresno. My view was fantastic from my mountain retreat. Saw everything from launch, to stage separation, fairing deployment, and then the start of the breaking burn on stage 1 before it went below the hills.

Seriously, all launches should be at night. I'm sure they braniacs can figure out proper time-frames for launch to make sure it's at night. My eyes demand it.

>>10055793
imagine the smell

always great to see a successful SpaceX launch & landing!
Next launch is early-ish November, out of Florida.

Would you anons like for me to put additional info in the OP for launch threads going forward? anything in particular?

SCAWT MANLEY with some cool footage https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1049140251774480386

>>10055814
Like a kerosene lantern?

>>10055844
oddly enough BFR shouldn't have a noticeable smell, since pure methane is odorless

>>10055836
You should add the booster serial # and how many uses it has had.

>>10055850
already in the OP
>Core number & previous missions: B1048.2; Iridium-7 on 2018-7-25

fantastic footage https://youtu.be/TVHAoxyHO9c?t=103

>>10055864
fairings!

>>10055864
thruster action

>>10055673
>>10055696
>>10055702
>>10055718
>>10055722
>>10055758
>>10055813
glad you all got to see it. The other anon is right, they should schedule launches so this happens on purpose.

sonic boom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn8Z6Zd2kK0&t=60

>>10055844
>>10055814
RP1 is highly refined so all the volatile fractions are removed. It doesn't smell like anything really.

Hey anons - in 20 hours MZ is hosting a press conference about dearMoon (& BFR information will be shared hopefully).

come and join in if you want. it should be fun
>>10055955

>>10055868
(((Falcon 9)))

>>10056075
>Vandenberg
HMMMMMMMMMM

>>10056086
kek

>>10055793
inconceivable

>>10056115
>SpaceX threads aren't filled with Redd-

>rocket launches finally become a regular occurrence
>we get amazing shows put on in the atmosphere by these awesome machines
>the only people that get to see it are californians

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2iPLn-4H5s

This bitch's voice makes me want to jump off a bridge

>https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-may-have-used-firm-to-plant-anti-spacex-oped-2018-10
>boeing literally confirmed for shilling the internet with anti-american anti-spacex smear campaign just so they can keep buying russian engines
How is that even legal?

>>10056452
have you read about the Bombardier drama? Boeing a shit. Heck, ULA was created by the govt. just to stop the sleaziness that was going on.

>>10056550
Lobbyist should all be dragged out to the back of a shed and get offed like the sick dogs they are.

>>10055689
>>10055703
>>10055705
>>10055712
How the fuck do these people function on a day-to-day basis?

>>10056452
Fucking stupid , why would you still to Normans against you competitor when your Clint's don't care and simply choose you because you're the cheapest launch for their parameters

>>10056716
It's not about commercial customers. They are trying to delay crewed Dragon launch by spreading FUD about the load-and-go procedure.

It's a battle for prestige of who will launch astronauts first.

>>10056739
load-and-go is demonstrably safer, which is the stupid thing

Previous scenario:
>crew enters the spacecraft while it is fueled, thus there is a period of time in which they are not protected by the pad abort function

New situation:
>crew enters the capsule before it is fueled, so they are always protected by the pad abort function

it's stupid that there is any argument. The reasons for not doing "load-and-go" in the past were technical ones, not safety ones.

>>10056743
NASA administrators are not brainlets so who is the target audience for these pieces? Dumb congressmen?

>>10056760
smart congressmen, who use them as evidence. One of those articles has already been touted as anti SpaceX material in a senate hearing about commercial crew.

>>10056743
also
>ground crew is on site around rocket while it is fueled, they don't even have a pad abort

>>10056743
Demonstrably safer does not matter jack shit for propaganda. Boeing wants to be the first and get the flag before the newcomer because that brings good boi points for oldspace. Judging by the hydrazine leak of all the starliner's engines they might even be skipping some steps to speed up the process.

>>10056762
what, you're saying that the zipline system isn't a reasonable solution for getting you away from a pad when the rocket blows up?

heh

>>10056452
>How is that even legal?
SpaceX has been doing that to everyone else for more than a decade.

>>10056768

>>10056415
any location on the equator is good for rockets, and there are spaceports at higher latitudes
The bongs and the leafs made themselves a spaceport

>>10056279
thank based Elon

>>10056772
explain please

>>10056998
Musk is known for shilling his companies very hard on social media.

>>10057009
>company owner shilling his own companies on his own social media accounts
that's not the same as hiring shills to do it

>>10057013
spacex has delusional fanboys who are literally worse than anything Boeing might have done.

>>10055882
ok this is epic

>>10057013
The other day I saw a reddit comment with >3k upvotes that was about what an awesome employer SpaceX is and how everyone who has the chance should apply their for an internship. This was when I finally woke up and realized that 99% of the internet hype around Musk is fabricated by their marketing boards. It was almost as obvious as Netflix forcing the "Netflix and chill"-meme.

Though you got to have that 1% of real hype or the whole thing won't work.

10057017
>he's not even trying to hide it anymore

>>10057017
spacex fanboyism is justified by what they do, boeing would have the same if they were not an obsolete corporate corpse when it comes to spaceflight

>>10056897
Vandenberg is used for polar orbit launches.

>>10057079
And retrograde orbits, theoretically. Dunno why you’d want one though

>>10057029
Ironically, just right now there is a reddit post with >10k upvotes that is telling me the AMAZING news that the TESLA MODEL 3 is the SAFEST car EVER TESTED! Wow! I REALLY want to buy a Tesla now!

Imagine a the identical reddit post with any other car brand and tell me how that wouldn't be painfully obvious shill-ads.

>>10057353
>going on reddit
perhaps you should stay there

>>10057019
that's absolutely beautiful.

>>10053292
Elons such an autist, he never broadcasts the SANIC BOOM during re-entry. Which is arguably, the coolest aspect of the mission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBlIvghQTlI

>>10055338
Why?

>>10057019
Holy molly