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Scientifically speaking, is there a way to completely and permanently kill all human emotions?

>> No.10041574

>>10041552
Lurk /b/.

>> No.10042092

>>10041552
get a lobotomy or take schizo meds. you'll lose motor skills and speech ability in the process though

>> No.10042098

>>10041552
Repeated trauma and dissociation.

Leave society for a while and train yourself.

Large doses of phenibut will also produce emotionless states, but also apathy.

>> No.10042155

Yes, stop eating. You will start counting, instead of reading. You are frozen.

>> No.10042591

>>10041552
Killing all humans would be the easier way to do it.

>> No.10042596

>>10041552

get a lobotomy

>> No.10042603

>>10041552
remove the brain

>> No.10042610

>>10041552
Sure, just be aware that you will lose a major part of your cognitive capabilities like decision making.

>> No.10042614

>>10041552
Enjoy being a slow, strictly linear thinker. Emotion is part of reasoning, and it's much better to learn to read and use them well than to suppress / eliminate them.

>> No.10042622

yes, you're in control, you just have to learn to train your brain inhibitions, it won't be permanently and you'll know about them, but you decide how much they affect you

>> No.10042794
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>>10042098
Repeated trauma is the reason I have problems with emotions. I've been a NEET for a while but there's no change except maybe for the worse. My old medication wasn't strong enough and stronger meds would likely also make me retarded which isn't part of the goal, though it still seems like the best option

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>>10042794
For trauma I recommend phenibut or kava. Phenibut is used in Russia for PTSD.

My experience has been contradictory. At first I saw phenibut as being a depatterning and destructuring agent, taking a mind that had become tightly wound and loosening it so the individual could begin to really look at all these things, sort them, and put them away. Later on it seemed like it began to cause extreme structuring of the mind, but in some loose way that left a sense of apathy and therefore paralysis / stagnation. I was taking ~500mg 3 - 6 days per week, which is ~15mg/kg. It could be quite useful if you recognize when you've used it long enough.

Kava is hard to explain. Be careful with it if you take other drugs, as contains strong cytochrome P450 family inhibitors.

I don't know if it ever quite gets better.

>> No.10043096

>>10041552
The only way to do that is to be dead.

>> No.10043099

>>10041552
By killing yourself

>> No.10043123

>>10041552
No, not without destroying the majority of not all functionality of your brain, or at least, the ability to utilise said functionality

>> No.10043126

>>10041552
Yes, think about the future of humanity. You will feel so much you will lose the ability to feel

>> No.10043141

>>10041552
Become an hero.

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>>10041552
There is a set of rare conditions that more or less causes this, usually they involve interruption of communication between the frontal cortex and the rest of the brain.

While this damage doesn't cause any reduction in IQ, it does, more or less, leave the individual non-functional. Without emotions, humans are incapable of making even the simplest decisions, and the less important the decision is, the more options available, the harder it is to make. They basically get stuck in "analyses loops" and are helpless when it comes to, for instance, picking which serial to buy. While their IQ's still measure normally, this usually brings them to the point where they are declared non-competent and have to be institutionalized.

Emotions are a key component to the decision making process. Suppressing them is one thing, but not having access to them at all basically destroys your ability to choose. (This may also be why some of the best leaders in history have also been described as among the most passionate.)

Expert systems like Watson have "hunch" functions that act much like human emotions, to allow them to make "best guesses" when pressed for time. Unlike Watson, humans need to do this pretty much constantly, as their referencing system is conceptual, rather than digital.

Radiolab did an interesting little take on one such extreme case study:
https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio.wnyc.org/radiolab/radiolab111408.mp3
Sadly I canna find the transcript, so skip to ~20:38.

>> No.10043149

>>10041552
Remove the amydala.

>> No.10043153

Just be autistic

>> No.10043850

>>10041552
8 bars of xanax does the trick for me

>> No.10044227

>>10043146
Not OP, but this is super interesting, thanks anon.
I am perscribed very large doses of Adderall (amphetamine salts) and this behavior describes my end-of-day comedown state nearly perfectly. I never characterized it as a state of inhibited emotion, but presumed it to be more related to temporarily "salience weights". The condition is temporary and fades in duration over a period of around 6 hours. It's immensely displeasurable, but I suppose meets OP's criteria.

>> No.10044441

>>10041574
i lurked /b/ and i still am able to cry at sad movies

>> No.10044471

>>10041552
Graduate school