/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10039002
grades =/= IQ

>>10039004
But Richard Lynn and all the other IQ scientists used grades and jobs to extrapolate their world IQ graphs

>>10039002
Yes and yes.

>>10039002
>Does studying really increase IQ?
Yes
>Is it possible that you'll be able to get better grades than a guy with 2 standard deviations of IQ more than you if you simply study for an exam and he doesn't?
Also yes.

>>10039002
Yes.

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2811%2901267-X

The posterior hippocampi of average-IQ adult subjects who passed the difficult Knowledge exam for London taxicab drivers showed significant enlargement as opposed to before they began studying for it. The posterior hippocampus is associated with memory and spatial navigation, both of which are strongly correlated with g.

Similar effects were not observed in the control group or in those who failed the exam (likely because they didn't study hard enough). Pic related.

Subjects chosen were fully grown adults so normal brain development should have ended long ago. Also, this study was a repeat experiment of an earlier pilot study, only with a larger sample size (n=88), proving the results are both predictable and reproducible.

In summary, we have reproducible, hard evidence that the brain PHYSICALLY restructures itself in response to focused training, even in fully grown adults. Therefore, intelligence, being a manifestation of the brain's organization, is also malleable.

>>10039002
Before the retards come in and shit up the thread - Yes OP, education has been shown to increase IQ significantly, here's a recent meta-study about just that:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29911926?dopt=Abstract
It's actually quite interesting to think about now that we have concrete evidence for it.

>>10039659
In summary, we have reproducible, hard evidence that the brain PHYSICALLY restructures itself in response to focused training, even in fully grown adults. Therefore, intelligence, being a manifestation of the brain's organization, is also malleable.
This guy gets it.

>>10039004
Brainlet.

>>10039002
Before the retards come in and shit up the thread - Yes OP, education has been shown to increase IQ significantly, here's a recent meta-study about just that:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29911926?dopt=Abstract
It's actually quite interesting to think about now that we have concrete evidence for it.

>>10039659
>In summary, we have reproducible, hard evidence that the brain PHYSICALLY restructures itself in response to focused training, even in fully grown adults. Therefore, intelligence, being a manifestation of the brain's organization, is also malleable.
This guy gets it.

>>10039004
Brainlet.

>>10039810
>Brainlet
Not trying denegrate your statement, but I think grades measure conscientiousness more than IQ
>smart but lazy
There are people like this.

>>10040606
Grades measure IQ too

What kinda things can I do to stimulate IQ growth if I'm not in school or at university?
I read a lot but that's it

Study/Play anything logic related.

>>10040643
Not if the person won't even do the work.
I've had my IQ measured one time by Mensa because I was curious. I scored a 141 15SD (nonverbal)(didn't join cause fuck that), but my high school GPA was some thing like 2.6-2.7. Luckly, I snapped myself out of it and I'm doing much better in university. But if the person doesn't do the work, you can't measure an accurate IQ because of those factors

>>10040643
Of course they don't. You can have very low intelligence and achieve straight As. You can have very high intelligence and fail every class. Grades measure obedience, nothing more.

>>10040606
Yeah but the study he cites is specifically about IQ and grades.

>>10039810
re: >>10039659 we don't really know what the neural correlates of intelligence are though. We can't just assume that those changes in the brain from training are necessarily related to intelligence. Its difficult to make interpretations because all cognitive tasks are extremely dirty and have surprising low correlations to the factors you want to measure; and also most of our studies of iq and brain structure/function are crude and completely correlational.

>>10040994
Your effective IQ is the equivalent of 2.7 gpa.

>>10041029
Everyone who actually matters had good grades.

>>10041165
Not anymore. Now I have an effective IQ of a 3.9 GPA as a physics major. Therefore, this "effective IQ" that you are talking about is at least improvable, which is kind of obvious

>>10039002
fuck off incel, I checked the catalogue, you created 3 threads, all equally shitty.

>>10041204
Stop stalking

>>10039002
I start college with 25, I read that the process of overall brain development is finished at 25-27, can I still increase my logical thinking although theoretical I'm a complete human?

>>10041272
Yes but alot of growth takes place when you study before 25

>>10041380
But I also read that peak intelligence is between 26-31 or something like that. This is considerably the range where you are at your smartest.

>>10041450
Yeah you combine youth with experience.
But still if you study alot before that your brain will adapt to being academic

>>10041504
But is there still a chance to think academic? I was pretty much a Neet for 3 years after high school ended (Germany, so I got the Abitur).

>>10041055
>We don't really know what the neural correlates of intelligence are though.
>Its difficult to make interpretations because all cognitive tasks are extremely dirty and have surprising low correlations to the factors you want to measure; and also most of our studies of iq and brain structure/function are crude and completely correlational.

Right, what I will say is that this is where computational science (not talking about Computer Science) and future advancements in scientific computing come in. It's the only method/tool that will allow us to crystallize these extremely "dirty", complex processes and allow for substantial insight and understanding of the brain, among other things.

Given the enormous complexity of the brain, it's virtually impossible to do proper neuroscience without relying on a specialized supercomputer for research.
I know it's becoming a bit of an overblown meme, but I do believe advancements in what people now call "Artificial Intelligence" will help in this regard.