/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10037014
Career fair coming up this Tuesday/Wednesday. What's the best format for an elevator pitch in these types of situations? Any other suggestions?

I recently deleted all the old iterations of my resume after finally getting a job. That was a good feeling.

>>10037014
>you don't need to be non white
Last I checked only 80% of new engineering hires are white. There is literally no reason to enter engineering if you are white given this level of discrimination.

As an Electrial Engineering student, what kind of software I should know to get a job, besides Excel?

>>10037291
Depends on what you want to do but C/C++, Matlab, Python, and VBA (I assume you don't mean VBA when you say no Excel).

where the AE chads at

>>10037085

Buy some report covers and make copies of your portfolio for the recruiters to keep. Cover your resume quickly and highlight the contents of your portfolio (projects and so on).

>>10037303

AE at Raytheon here.

>>10037303
AE checking in, doing PDEs homework, gotta do some lit review later. Might take a break and work on the FEM solver spreadsheet I'm making just for fun.

>>10037305
>makes weapons for israel and saudi arabia

I bet you thought you were gonna work for nasa lmao.

>>10037298
Not him but what if I don't have the money for matlab? Can I get fucked if I use a pirated matlab for work and shit?

>>10037317

Kek, nope. I make more money at Raytheon and I'm not surrounded by diversity hires.

calc 1 student here. just I'm EXTREMELY good at implicit differentiation at the moment. might be an engineer in the near future, idk

>>10037320
You school should provide you with a license or you can just get a student license much cheaper. Matlab isn't that critical to know. There is a free alternative known as Octave as well.

I can program but love design. I'm in CS rn, but what would be good for me?

>>10037327
Web/app dev

>>10037323
Uni provides basic Microsoft software but no matlab.
I don't really like Octave. It's just... bad.

>>10037334
>>10037320
Just get a cracked copy, no one cares. If anything, people will make fun of you for paying for matlab

>>10037320
>>10037334
>>10037336
Besides, matlab is old and busted, python/julia are the new hotness

>>10037338
>Julia
Elaborate

>>10037343
http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=julia+language

Are oil rigs and stuff the only engineering jobs if I want something with a on off schedule? Like 6 months on 6 off or even 14 days on 14 off. Both seem like hard fields to get into as a graduate

>>10037303
riddle freshman here
not sure why im here to be honest, shouldve stuck with forensic science

>>10037365
Switch, AE has no jobs

>>10037351
Sounds like you want that field/service engineer life. Your a glorified maintenance man or glorified project supervisor but you get comped pretty good with per diems and overtime. Don’t be a lil bitch nigga tho.

You'd think that after send out 400 of these, someone would have offered me a job. The best/only offer I've gotten was as a non-engineer technician.

>>10037536
>3.2 gpa
lol might as well work at starbucks

>>10037539
All my time went into extracurriculars and undergrad research, which I did very well on.

People in sci and eng jobs, where do you get your meaningful fulfilment from? Anything keeping you going besides money?

>>10037549
>Anything keeping you going besides money?
Shitposting on /mg/

>>10037536

That's a pretty solid resume. But 98% of the work in job hunting is getting a human being to read it. You'd be much better served going to career fairs and so on where recruiters look at your resume. You're probably not finding much because the word filters for online apps are getting rid of your resume before a human sees it. If you keep doing online apps, make sure your resume has all the key words in the job description.

I had basically the same job hunting experience. I got more job interviews and offers in the few months after going to the career fairs and speaking to real people at the beginning of the school year than I did in sending out hundreds of online apps.

>>10037536
You need to target your resume. I am hoping you are at least applying at jobs related to... what? Mechanical engineering?
Trim the software crap, industry knows what csfags are. Think of it like facebook. You are talking with normie MBAs. It ain't supposed to be everything, just the shit that catches attention, you want to hit target keywords so their automated systems pull you up. The github stuff is nice, but that should be put as part of additional information. Nobody is going to look at it unless you make a lasting impression about it.
O-notation has no business on any resume. Think on a social level not on the 'global hyperparameter optimization' level.
Fuck the more I think about this I am hoping you are memeing you sad autistic fuck.

>>10037536
Take out our GPA, no one gives a fuck.

>>10037536
I just realized that my resume is absolutely fucking terrible compared to this one. No wonder I haven't gotten a bite since I graduated last fucking year filling out 2-4 applications per day. Why did I even try? This is the biggest blackpill on my career that I've ever received.

Hey, at least there are labor shortages in shitty fucking jobs that everybody fucking hates.

>>10037536
Reverse the order of your categories, and don't even list your gpa

>>10037599
>worse than that shitty resume
No way, post it

>>10037604
>>worse than that shitty resume
Let's see yours faggot

>>10037609
Don't want to, I have a job lmao

I need the how to make resumes 101 by sci right now

>>10037643
>lying on the internet

>>10037549
The dream is to have a couple acre hobby farm, my PE, and a shop. Grow food for market in the good weather, do design and fabrication work in the bad weather. Everything I’m doing is moving me towards that. If all goes according to plan, I can be half assed retired by age 40.

>>10037569
Why are you so hostile? I added more technical details after people said it sounded like bullshit when I gave the glossed over version. Which one is it?

>>10037578
>>10037600
Every time I post it, people tell me to take my GPA either on or off, or reverse the ordering. This is like the fourth cycle of me changing this, and really it seems like you guys are just suggesting changes for the sake of suggesting changes.

>>10037604
>>10037643
b8

>>10037536
>listing references
>only references are professors
Incel detected

>>10037789
My research advisor + the faculty in charge of the school engineering teams.

>>10037801
So you're getting a Master's then, right?

>>10037810
I was going to go for PhD until I had a health crisis at the end of undergrad. Since then I've just spent the last 16 months job hunting without success.

>>10037810
I was going to go for a PhD until I had a health crisis at the end of undergrad. Since then I've just spent the last 16 months job hunting without success.

>>10037814
You're healthy enough to work but not healthy enough to go to school?

>>10037821
My health was a lot more uncertain at the time. It's been improving more recently which has prompted me to apply to more jobs. I would still prefer to stay local for the next year or two so i can be close to my treatment.

Pro tip: network. You won't find jobs by applying. Go to conferences and job fairs. Talk to actual people. Then hand them your resume. Then call them back a week or 2 later. Also make yourself a business card.

>>10037536
Toss this resume man. I would honestly pay one of those professional resume people. It's expensive but worth it in my opinion.

>>10037830
Can you be more specific about what you would improve?

>>10037825
Ganbare anon, but I'd focus on getting into a good school. Lots of good schools offer online classes, and you can transfer to that campus or transfer credits to another school later. No one really wants to hire a smart guy who only has a BS

>>10037847
That's what my parents keep saying, but honestly this job search has sort of spooked me out of it. If I can't even get the most basic bitch of entry level engineering jobs, what would be any different after I invest even more time and effort into this dead end career path?

Basically I'm at the point of giving up and instead trying my hand at HFT to escape this NEET hell.

>>10037860
>If I can't even get the most basic bitch of entry level engineering jobs, what would be any different after I invest even more time and effort into this dead end career path?
Lmao, you've got it backwards, if you're an academic overachiever, but only have a BS, they assume something's wrong with you, or even if there isn't, you'll get bored quickly and find another job asap. I could only get $15/hr jobs until I started my Master's - and got a full-time job two months into grad school.

Or go into HFT, engineering sucks.

>>10037014
guys holy fuck how do you find out what area of research interests you

>>10037871
Try thinking about why you got into engineering in the first place, then follow up with some googling

>>10037875
okay, this is where it's tricky - i'm a mechanical engineer, but i'm interested in the design of components like sensors, connectors, transducers... etc. what would i study in grad school if this is the stuff i'm into?

>>10037890
MEMS

>>10037890
What specifically do you like about sensors, connectors, and transducers? Is it that you're interested in devices that relate electrical signals to mechanics, or are you interested in measuring tools in general, or something else?

>>10037892
>MEMS
my dude, i think you're right.

do you think it's a bad idea to get a MS from a smaller school without a lot of resources? there's a prof there who does research in nanomaterials, so i suppose he could advise me on doing a thesis on MEMS. the reason for going to the small school is that i wouldn't have to quit my job and my employer would pay for it.

>>10037910
No point in going to a big, fancy school if you're going to be working while going to school.

>>10037867
What are your BS and MS in? Also what sort of a job did you get? For me the issue with going to grad school is that I would want to land an R&D job after finishing. But I have a feeling that best case scenario it will just qualify me for the shitty entry level jobs that I'm currently not being hired for.

>>10037907
basically i'm interested in what you said, devices that convert mechanical changes to signals, test equipment is interesting too, and i was interested in how people manage to actually make tiny sensors and other electronic components. also, i was interested in the reasons behind the designs, but that goes along with the previous statement.

ideally, i would earn my degree and find a higher-end job designing electronic components... i should also say that i'm interested in systems too... like laptops, radars, smart phones...

>>10037914
good to know. thanks man. i haven't gotten a lot of helpful advice on choosing a grad school. all the guys i work with only have bachelors degrees.

>>10037867
Also won't I wind up in the same position of not having any industry connections/job prospects if I do enroll in an online MS program? What I need more than anything is nepotism at this point.

>>10037890
VIBRATIONS

>>10037918
BSME, MSAE (in progress), and I work in aerospace stress analysis. At my first job, all of my immediate coworkers had a Master's, and several people around the office had a PhD. Not sure about my current job, but I know my lead has a Master's. So, you're right, a Master's is no guarantee of a nice R&D job, and neither is a PhD. But, those jobs are out there (I'm told), and somebody has to do them. It's probably a matter of getting into a sub-field that has a lot of active research in things that are likely to turn someone a profit in the future.

>>10037946
You're absolutely right, and I hope you can figure out some way to go out and meet people in your field of interest. But, whatever you do, you can't do nothing, i.e. just send out resumes. For some reason, people assume that once an engineer has been NEET for more than two years, they're suddenly "out of touch" and can't work as an engineer anymore. That's what I hear, anyway. I hear horror stories of engineers being temporarily reassigned to handle supply chain stuff (or something) for 3-6 months, which turns into years if they do a good job, and now they're stuck forever because the company won't recognize them as engineers anymore.

>>10037927
No prob, I feel you. I'm in the same boat, going to my local school for my MS while working. Maybe think about taking a couple of applicable EE courses while in your Master's, there are some things that you just can't learn from the ME department. Also, if you can't get an internship at a sensor/transducer manufacturer, maybe see if you can get an internship as a test engineer. No one worries more about the proper usage of and limitations of sensors than a test engineer, after all.

>>10037927
>>10037980

Yeah man, good idea. i'll take some EE classes along the way. it might not be a bad idea to pick up an internship if i find a good one, but i have an engineering job atm that pays well. the internship could be my ticket into a better job though, so i'll keep an eye out.

i had one thought though, what if this guy can't advise me on MEMS... he does interesting research in materials, but nothing specifically about MEMS. maybe, for an MS, it doesn't matter too much.

>>10038002
Lol, my bad, forgot you already had a job mid-paragraph

Personally, if you've got your heart set on the subject, I'd choose an online MS from a school that offers proper classes on the subject over an MS with research in an unrelated field, especially if you don't want an R&D job. But, on the other hand, any given field has a lot of overlap with a lot of other fields, so you could probably make something work.

>>10037536
Alright I'll bite on this resume. Starting from the top I would re-organize your resume.

Order should be
>Education
Assuming you are a fresh graduate or about to graduate keep your education at the top. That way they can determine immediately if you meet the bare minimum (above a 3.0 GPA)., keep your education at the top. Ignore all the retards who are saying remove your GPA. You keep your GPA on if it is above a 3.0. If a GPA is not listed people assume it is below a 3.0 and your resume gets placed in the trash.


>Experience (Just call it that, you unemployed incel).
What positions are you even applying for? I can tell you right now if you are applying online you aren't going to be getting through many online sites. You really need to hit up keywords and use the same verbage of the job posting. For your challenges, you did that ll yourself? What did your teammates even do? Also for your Boeing Capstone sounds like a bunch of fluff, "Established a supply chain with vendors".

>Technical Skills
Honestly seems bloated as fuck. Do you actually have experience as a linux administrator? If I hired you to be a systems admin for a computer network would you even know what the fuck you are doing? Design for manufacture? Shut the fuck up, Blowing smoke up your ass, you have no professional experience in any of those categories outside of your projects. Lose almost all the software development shit unless you are going for programming positions.

>Awards and Certifications (combine them)
Additionally get rid of your high school robotics shit. No one cares what you did in FIRST robotics as a high school kid. If you were a mentor during college I would care.

>References (Remove it)

Just read further down. If you have a job in aerospace why not fucking list it? Fuck your resume would be a lot stronger with it on. How can we offer advice if you don't give us an accurate resume?

>>10037980
>reassigned to handle supply chain stuff (or something) for 3-6 months, which turns into years if they do a good job, and now they're stuck forever because the company won't recognize them as engineers anymore.

This shit is so real. Be careful what talents you reveal to your boss fellas.

>>10038011
that's all right.

this is a bit of a complicated problem. i like product development, but doing research might be cool too.

unfortunately, without leaving my current job, i only have one school to choose from, unless i do an online degree. i want to do a thesis, as to keep the possible of doing a phd open... i guess i'll just go and take classes that i think are interesting. hopefully, though, i can find a way to do research related to MEMS.

>>10038019
>What positions are you even applying for?
Mostly ME jobs, and I have another variant of the same resume that I use for some software jobs.
>For your challenges, you did that ll yourself? What did your teammates even do?
There was a lot of other stuff to go around. I was a major contributor, but they were pretty big projects.
>Also for your Boeing Capstone sounds like a bunch of fluff, "Established a supply chain with vendors".
We solicited bids from suppliers. Not sure how else I'm supposed to say that.

>>Technical Skills
It's my primary operating system. I haven't used Windows since sophomore year of high school. And I designed and manufactured things using those processes. How else should I put that experience on my resume?

>If you have a job in aerospace
I don't. That's not me.


I'm fine making changes to my resume, but not removing all of my actual experience. If I take stuff off it needs to be replaced with something.

>>10037722
I'd say keep the GPA on there as anything over 3.0 is good. As for the order, I was always told the rigmarole of "hiring managers only spend 3.245004 seconds on average looking at a resume which means they're only going to read 0.823754 inches down the sheet." Every hiring manager is going to know you'll have at least a bachelor's for an entry-level position, so keeping the education section at the bottom is alright. However, you are going to want to front load the resume with important shit like skills and experience/projects and put certifications/awards near the bottom.

>>10038059
>We solicited bids from suppliers. Not sure how else I'm supposed to say that.

What was the dollar value of those bids? Did your sharp business negotiation skills result in a discount or other cost savings? Numbers dude, numbers. Everything you do, with the exception of safety, should be quantified in units of $.

By the way, safety is low hanging fruit and you aren’t grabbing it.

>>10038059
Look anon you can put whatever you want on your resume experience wise. That resume doesn't show me an ME that also likes to program. That resume shows me a programmer that is also interested in mechanical engineering. What does your software variant look that if this is not your software variant? Additionally you need to quantify things like >>10038067 said. I would try to quantify as much on your resume as possible.

I am sorry that you got sick for awhile. I might just be lost in the sauce now. Do you have an engineering job at all? Or have you submitted 400 applications over a 16 months period while being unemployed? If it is the latter, those are rookie numbers and a big unemployment gap. Additionally it might be hard to get back into the game so to speak when you have been out of it for so long. Even Pizza anon had a job during his defense job search. Might want to go back to grad school.

If you are applying for jobs online additionally you need to make sure you are hitting the key words. Doesn't make how much experience you have if it never gets to the person reading it. One thing I did when I searched for my job was copy and paste a job listing into a text editor and high light keywords. Then as I reworked my resume to match the keywords I would change the highlight color. By doing that I only submitted ~50 specific resumes to ~50 positions, received 10 interviews, 5 offers, then rejected 3 more interviews after accepting a position. Keep in my specific resumes were all basically template resume that we reworked from a master resume of all my accomplishments.

>>10038081
And by rookie numbers I mean that is a small number of submissions in that period of time. I have a friend that submitted 800 applications in a four month period before he found a job. Keep in mind he had no experience but dude grinded like a mother fucker to get his manufacturing job.Think he received a total of three interviews and one offer.

>>10038081
>Even Pizza anon had a job during his defense job search
lmao I never realized I was so well known here.
To the guy with the resume- when I was looking for a job, I went a good while unemployed but eventually figured that I had to get SOME current experience on my own resume. My degree was in mechanical, so I got a job as a CNC operator (which was surprisingly easy btw) because I figured that might give me some good skills employers would be looking for. In the only interview I had since then, the guy interviewing me (an electrical engineer) was bullshitting with me about that job, asking what I did and what I make, then started telling me about some neat things about the machine shop that the company has. Being able to talk with him about that stuff legitimately seemed to help in the interview.

>>10038067
It was some real bullshit, but we were forced to sign an NDA and so I have to be intentionally vague about it. Honestly I'm considering just saying fuck it and putting the details on there anyway because it was a really cool project and I don't think they'll ever find out.

>By the way, safety is low hanging fruit and you aren’t grabbing it.
What do you mean?

>>10038081
>What does your software variant look that if this is not your software variant?
It's pretty much the same, but without the certs, and with a skills section that's purely software. Also an objective statement at the top.

>>10038090
>Do you have an engineering job at all?
I don't. I have an autoimmune disease that got in my eyes, and basically I've been doing my best not to go blind for the last couple years. There was a small trickle of applications right after graduating, but most of those applications have been in the last few months as it's been getting better.

Also should I even bother with cover letters at this point? Or would it be better to just focus on keyword optimizing my resume?

>>10038112
>>By the way, safety is low hanging fruit and you aren’t grabbing it.
>What do you mean?
Slap a bullet point or two on their about how you never cut your hands off.

> should I even bother with cover letters at this point?
hell no.

>>10038112
Sorry to hear about your disease. It sounds spooky. No one ever read any of my tailored cover letters. The person who hired me even told me so. If I ever job hunt again I will still write them to try and stand out.

That being said when I review resumes for new grads, if there is a cover letter attached I always reads it. Not writing a cover letter does not hurt you but writing a terrible cover letter will hurt you. I would reject applicants that had cover letters that were terrible and lazy. If you go the cover letter route make sure it is good, even if know one ever reads it.

Keyword optimizing is your best bet when doing online applications. Using Boeing as an example, Boeing recruiters and their resume recommend you have a section just for keywords so that you always make it through taleo or brassring or whatever they use now. If you aren't hitting the keywords your resume won't be reviewed.

>>10038102
I hate to break your heart here pizza anon but it is always me. I am glad you made it. You are the story needed to inspire the unemployed anons.

>>10038112
>What do you mean?

-zero lost-time mishaps

That’s a freebie for you guys.

>>10037283
Bait

I'm so sick of seeing the same shitty formats from the engineering students trying to get a job at my firm. Please for the love of God do something, anything to make your resume look different than everyone else's. It's ten times harder for me to pay attention to your shit when I pick up your resume and it looks exactly like the other twenty I've seen that day.

>>10038120
>>10038146
>>10038148
Also Re: eyesight:

I'm extremely sensitive to bright light and have to wear prescription sunglasses at all times or else risk further eye damage. That makes it really awkward during interviews because then I have to explain why I'm wearing the sunglasses and how I'm not too blind to do the job. How am I supposed to handle this situation? It's practically impossible to make a good first impression here. My central vision is 20/20.

And then in addition to that, should I just start ignoring the NDA with Boeing? I feel like it's really been holding me back. I would be really surprised if they enforced it.

>>10038279
If you are going to be remembered as the guy with the glasses, get some cool ass mad scientist goggles and just own that shit.

Area 1, 2, or 3 for jobs?
I like them all, don’t really know which one I should do though.

>>10038170
If someone were applying at an entry level position, would it be good to put past job experiences that aren’t related to the field like a part-time job?

>>10037322
Differentiation is a meme
learn integration

>>10038391
Go with whichever one you want to do the most. If it's really a toss-up then go with whichever one will help you get a job the most.

>>10038420
It won't hurt. Employers will want to see that you are not afraid of working, even if it's a part time fast food job or whatever.

>>10037304
>tfw nobody ever told me to create a portfolio and I haven't kept good records of my projects

yeah, I should really just kill myself for coming to get this shitty degree

>>10038279
A lot of companies will ask you if you need special accommodations during the interview process, since they are equal opportunity employers. Just explain that you have very sensitive eyes. Don't tell them you are blind or almost blind.

As for the NDA, don't disclose anything proprietary information. Boeing might not enforce it but other companies don't like hiring people who disclose proprietary information. Try to talk as much about it as you can without revealing any "trade secrets" of the NDA.

>>10039068
A portfolio helps if you are really trying to stand out at career fairs. That is only place where they are very helpful.

Any blueblooded IE here?

>>10039068
What a cute strawberry

>>10039162
>As for the NDA, don't disclose anything proprietary information. Boeing might not enforce it but other companies don't like hiring people who disclose proprietary information. Try to talk as much about it as you can without revealing any "trade secrets" of the NDA.
What if I just don't let them know that it's proprietary? I came up with a way of using a laser cutter to pyrolyze a thin conductive graphite layer on top of polyimide film, and then using that graphite primer layer to electroplate more conductive copper, followed by a tin topcoat for corrosion protection. Before that, Boeing was trying to silkscreen print this insanely expensive silver ink onto their ceiling panels to make conductive printed circuits, and the only reason precious metals were on the table is because currently it takes a technician an entire day to wire this heavy rats nest of wires onto each panel. My method is much cheaper, lighter, and faster to produce.

I just wish I could talk about it. Or even get a fucking job for that matter.

>>10039403
Man that sounds really cool. I wish I got to do cool shit in undergrad.

>>10039419
It doesn't matter though because apparently I'm only qualified to be a fucking unskilled technician.

>>10039427
Again, if you are only applying online. Your resume isn't getting through keyword searches. 16 months of unemployment doesn't help either. If a technician role gets you into a company you want to work for. You might just want to take it then after a few months start applying to internal engineering positions.

>>10039403
>>10039439
Additionally, did you ever follow up with the Boeing contact for your senior project? If you truly revolutionized something at Boeing, surely your interface with the company would remember you or at least your team. You could ask them to recommend you to their HR team. I would do that if you wanted to work at Boeing by any chance.

>>10038391
Area 1 will make will make you the most generalized EE, meaning that you don't pigeonhole yourself like area 2 and 3. Area 1 will give you the widest range of job possibilities.

>>10039439
I won't be able to afford rent and student loan payments working as a technician. The cost of living here is out of hand, and they'll go back into repayment once I start working.

>>10039449
They already had most of the tooling for the silkscreening process, so I'm not sure if they're ever going to use electroplating. Also the contract we signed explicitly forbade them from offering us employment as a result of working on the project. I asked anyway at the end of the project, but he said to apply somewhere else because Boeing is downsizing their engineering staff.

>>10039491
Are you able to relocate if needed for a job? Also Boeing is expanding their engineering. A quick look at their careers section shows that they have several engineering new grad positions open. Sure he can't offer you a job but he can give you a recommendation for other positions. The worst thing he can say a year after graduating is "No" but I imagine if you sent him an email saying "Hey I am interested in Req: XXXXXX would you be willing to recommend it for me?" he might help you out.

Why the fug is Va 2Voffset in this circuit?

>>10038279
just put at the end of your resume that you have 20/20 vision but are photosensitive so have to wear sunglasses all the time

hi guys im about to graduate with basically a 4.0 in electrical but i have never worked a day in my life and im 25

i got amateur radio license and this empoyability award thing and took a mobile technology class in korea over the summer but thats it i have no experience

do i just like not even put the words "work experience" on the resume since its blank, or do i just not make one at all and kill myself before the sun comes over the horizon?? do i have any hope of getting a cool job??

>>10037536
Reword your experience. If you were in a school project put team manager. Even if you didnt lead the team. Drop the kiddie award stuff, and the fact that it's the first part of your resume.

>>10038279
>>10039652

I wouldn't put it on the resume, that provides an opportunity for companies to screen you out before you ever make it to the interview phase. It's a lot harder to prove discrimination at that point.

Plus you're going to have a hard time working that into a resume.

Can you just not wear glasses to the interview? Or maybe a pair that is less tinted.

If you absolutely have to wear dark glasses then you need to make sure you are making good eye contact with the people you're talking to, which additionally means squaring your head up with them since they can't see your eyes.

>>10039538
>Are you able to relocate if needed for a job?
My health has been getting better with this new treatment, so I could if the right opportunity presented itself. Though in January/February I was approached by a lot of really prestigious out of state jobs after I posted my optimization algorithm on github, but had to stop with their hiring process because it was putting too much strain on my health. I could probably give it another shot though.

I've applied to about 80 Boeing positions without any luck, but I guess I'll give contacting him a try.

>>10039652
Won't that draw even more attention to it? I also keep a letter on me from my doctor saying that my central vision is fine.

>>10039695
Maybe if I place more emphasis on it being the world championships?

>>10039887
Do not put it on your resume. They will just screen you out. If asked about it just say your eyes are sensitive to bright lights and you need to wear them. You don't want them to discriminate you because of health insurance/or a autoimmune disease that will panic them

I’m an engineering student in my first year of SE and I think I might switch to IT because I’m a brainlet who has difficulty with math. Feels bad.

>>10040079
>SE
>actual engineering
>needing any serious math
Not going to make it

>>10040116
I mean, the maths in my field of study aren’t really machine-learning tier but it has calculus, probaility and linear algebra which is justifiable enough

>Not going to make it
I know, you didn’t have to remind me

Hi. After calculus, what should I learn to keep advancing on engineering?
I'm learning differential equations atm

>>10040148
Linear algebra and numerical methods are a must if you want to do computer simulations, PDEs and complex analysis are optional

>>10039658
>lmao I don't need a job I have a 4.0 GPA

>>10040148
What does your curriculum necessitate?
>I'm not in school I'm studying on my own
Everything you are doing is a worthless waste of time, then.

>>10040148
My school is ABET certified. For Mechanical Engineering they only require Calculus I/II.

I'm a physic major and they require multivariate I/II, Linear Algebra, Differential Equation.

CS grads require Sets& Logic and Discrete Mathematics with Calc I/II.

In some school multivariate calc is the same as Calc III/IV.

>>10040384
What kind of shit school doesn't require Mech. Engs to know diff. equations?
How are they supposed to solve Heat Transfer o Vibration problems?

>>10040473

It's a state university so low tier but pic related and it still qualifies for Abet, which probably matters more for a non-target school.

>>10040601
Essentially it's a school for your boss saying he will promote you if you get your PE license. Kinda like how MBA can be worth pursuing at any credible university if you already guaranteed a promotion with it, otherwise you want the very top schools.

>>10040217
can you read that is not what I said at all

>>10040138
>Calculus, probability, linear algebra
>Hard enough
Why is the C"S" meme literally always true?

>>10037014
>biomedical engineering is a meme major
I am aiming to go to med school. I picked this major because in the case I don't make it I have a better chance for employment than a biology major. Also it's 10x more interesting than a pure bio route

What am I in for?

>>10037014
>Many bitter anons in these threads are ChemE students or unemployed ChemE graduates.
It's getting better for us again, but you are right.

Is it worth joining ieee as an ee?

>>10037536
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that that is your CV.

That is an extremely good resume you should've at least gotten 5 or so interviews by now.

>>10038081
What the fuck are you talking about? Optimization software experience is invaluable for any mechanical engineering job.

You guys are giving really shitty advice to a troll who posted someone else's CV. Probably to prove how shit career advice on /sci/ is.

Could I go for a masters in Computer Engineering if I took classes on digital design / embedded systems in CS during undergrad?

>>10040909
Then he should have no problem finding a job. Instead here he is 16 months later and 400 applications submitted while remaining unemployed.

>>10040920
That's why I said I don't believe it's his CV.

I have basically the same CV except literally worse on every point; lower gpa, I have an optimization algorithm, but it was far worse than his though O(log(n)) is theoretical impossible since GO is NP-hard so I don't know what he means exactly. It's also not my own, my professor wrote it I just programmed parts of it. In any case that dynamic programming model is really impressive and it something that is useful to any engineering field. In general his projects and experience are far superior and more numerous than my own. He knows more programming languages etc.

In addition I have a 3 year CV gap (I started a Masters doing optimization, but never finished).

Yet after getting tired of gradschool I sent out no more than 5 CVs before getting 2 interviews. I ended up at a large control systems engineering company with a full time engineering salary.

>>10040924
>>10040920
Oh right to add.

All I had was summer jobs at small companies doing crappy work. Having Boeing on your CV and a successfully commissioned project would get you in the door in almost any company.

You people thinking his CV is bad are retards who should not be offering advice.

>>10040924
>>10040928
whew. random ee anon here

thank god he's larping

>>10040928
Shut the fuck up you ignorant shit. That resume lacks any quantifiable information, which is grounds for a complete re-write by any professional standard. Go pick up an actual resume writing book before you run your suck.

Why is it so bad for ChemE's? I hear its a meme online but all I see are succesful peers getting decent jobs.

>>10040924
I don't expect you to believe me, but it really is my resume. Also Bayesian optimization is O(n^3) with respect the number of sample points. Mine is O(log(n)) because it can reuse the surrogate model from previous iterations, making small refinements as needed.

>>10040920
I am thoroughly convinced that the job market is shit. My classmates don't have jobs either. (except for the women who were all hired before graduating, even though they destroyed DBF and nearly destroyed the Boeing project)

>>10041133
How should I improve this? And can you post an example of what you're talking about regarding more quantifiable info?

>>10041205
Also could the problem be that recruiters think I'm LARPing? That's why I originally threw the references on there, but is that enough?

>>10041133
Also this guy >>10037569 said to include less quantifiable information. Which one?

>>10041133
>That resume lacks any quantifiable information,
It has his GPA, results of projects (except the NDAed one which any real engineer would know is impossible to put on) and his concrete quals you fucktard.

I get that you got some shitty spreadsheet crunching 9-5 and now you think you're hot shit, but the owner of that CV is already much smarter and more succesful than you will ever be in your entire life.

>>10041141
The job market was in a major slump. All that means is that a lot of people were forced to go into finance and software where they can't use their engineering degree.

It has already improved again, but as always only the top third or so of students will get decent engineering jobs.

No one knows what the trade war is really going to do for us though, it might get worse before it gets better.

>>10041258
>results of projects
No it doesn’t you dumb fuck. Are you so fucking retarded that you can’t understand the difference between a qualitative and a quantitative description?

>>10041205
Which kind of companies are you applying to? Send your CV to the website pools of major companies. You will easily catch the eye of any senior engineering looking for someone who can do geometric optimisation because there are so few.

In addition look for the smaller engineering software firms, there are companies and firms that specialize in modelling, simulation, optimisation and dynamic control consulting that both sell software and consulting services to the boomer engineers.

>except for the women who were all hired before graduating
The AA meme is real, they tend to get eaten up by majors and consulting firms quickly. But there are more than enough jobs for everyone.

>>10041245
Most of the advice given to him so far has been intimidated idiots like this fucking mongoloid >>10041279 who's deathly scared of math after skimping through calculus and doesn't even understand non-numerical quantitative results like complexity notation along with the fact that explicit listings are quantitative descriptions.


>>10041003
The reason Anons like this are impressed is because his CV is impressive. Anyone in the real world would think his CV is good except for loud mouthed friendless faggots who read shit like AOM and GQ unironically.

If my math is very strong but my physics is very weak (not like I dont understand it, I used to competd but had to choose between the two), can I be an engineer?

Yes engineering is probably the 3rd easiest common stem major. 1st being biology, 2nd being CS. Engineering requires general math/physics which should be doable by any average human. If they fail it's only because laziness.

>>10041205
You need to quantify your experience. Here is an example.

Subway - Shift Manager
Managed a team of 4 employees and met a daily quota of over 400 customers while maintaining an approval rating of 99%.

So reword your projects to something like that. Sounds brainlet tier but that's how they hire.

>>10041232
No they think you're a fresh out of college grad with no life experience, and you're competing with all of the other fresh out of college grad with no life experience, and those with several years in the industry. This is why networking is more important than qualifications or a good resume.

>like music because performed for 10+ years
>get into EE for DSP
>get told it job market is shit in DSP if you’re entry level
So what now? Any advice on what I should try? I still like EE, but something with music/ audio would make me the happiest.

Who here /goingtofailcontinuummechanics/ ?

>>10042229
I had to retake a precalc exam
But then again I'm a CS major

>>10039658
>basically a 4.0
>>10040704
>not what I said at all
eat shit retard no wonder you dont have a job

>>10041358
no.

Updated version that I'm going to hand out at a career fair. Not sure where to put the skills section.

>>10042272
>a bunch of words
Discarded. It hurts looking at that.

>>10042242
how fucking braindead are you?

>basically have a 4.0
and
>i dont need a job i have a 4.0
are not the same thing. in fact my entire fucking post was self-loathing about the fact that i don't have any work experience. it's the exact opposite of saying "i don't need a job"

but you can't read past "4.0" because you probably are some jaded brainlet with a 2.5

>>10042288
Typical response from dumbshit

>>10042288
poor guy. I don't know if you're intentionally misinterpreting that post to try to move the goalposts or if you're actually stupid enough to think that.

>>10042329
haha got me good you sure showed me that i said something i didnt say with that ad hominem

>>10042341
wow now im arguing with "two" people, neither of which have made any counterpoints

>>10042344
Another typical response. Get your head out of your ass

>>10042357
actually, your response is the typical response.

evidence:
>>10042329

>>10042288
>>10042329
>>10042341
>>10042344
>>10042347
>>10042357
>>10042359

>>10042374
go away black science man

>>10042347
>counterpoints
Counterpoints? You never even made a "point." All you said was the equivalent of "lol u dum"

>>10042359
>NUH UH YOU ARE

poor guy.

>>10042384
Ignore the autist.

>>10042384
Yes, I did. My point is that, not only did I never say that "I don't need a job", in fact the sentiment my post was expressing was the exact opposite. In that post I literally ask if I should kill myself over the fact that I have no work experience. The only reason that I can imagine someone would get so salty over my post while misinterpreting and fixating on the fact that I "basically have a 4.0" is if they either can't read or they're neurotically jaded over their awful gpa

>>10042278
Okay, so now what?

>>10042400
ignore the autist xD

>>10042400
>In that post I literally ask if I should kill myself
Yes, you should.

>>10042411
ok cool man

Holy shit, all of you just stop posting and rethink your lives.

>>10042422
go away black science man

>>10038146
>>10038102
do you have an excerpt of the story I can use to search on wasoru?

>hmmm, I wonder why so many engineers on /sci/ don't have a job?
>open up the general thread
>oh right, it's all of this weapons-grade autism

>>10042452
>be me
>make post loathing about having no work experience before graduating
>"wow retard stop bragging about not needing a job"
>"wow autist no wonder you dont have a job"
yeah that was MY point

>>10042452
FYI, this is resume anon >>10042374 >>10042422
(not an autist, I swear)

>>10042422
>>10042411
>>10042400
>>10042399
>>10042344
>>10042288
>>10041311
>>10041266
>>10041133
>>10040900

Fuck all this autism, this is a doubles thread now

>>10037014
How do you even start personal projects guys? I mean, how do you come up with the idea, motivation and find time to do it? I'm studying EE and for the life of me can't figure what I should do as a personal project, which would give me some experience.

>>10041358
maybe an industrial engineer. But really, you should do applied math or pure math+cs and then after a few years in industry go for a stat PhD/MS or cs PhD/MS or IE MS or (in rare circumstances) an MBA and go into the big data meme. Maybe add some biology in there so you can switch over when the data/AI/ML bubble crashes and biology becomes the "in" thing.

Also, super resume anon needs to quantify his stuff

>>10042217
learn to separate vocation from your hobby. Or go into AI and do music using that.

>>10042272
>>10042405
Last call before I print off 100 of these.

I'm doing a project using a program called OpenSim and I hate my life, send help

>>10042540
I have to side with the people telling you to quantify your shit. HR niggers know entry level candidates just slap skills and whatnot onto their resumes to beef them up. They don't know what your actual competencies with those skills are. If you ever turned on a 3-axis mill at any point in your life, you can put "milling" on your resume. Basically, if you never got paid to learn or utilize a skill, HR niggers don't care.
for example, the second listing under your experience section:
performed FEA structural optimization studies...
Designed/manufactured soil sampling...

Those bullet points could instead be
Utilized ANSYS APDL to perform FEA structural optimization studies...
Manufactured soil sampling system using 3-axis mill and waterjet

Also, go down to kinkos or whatever and get your resumes printed on some fancy looking paper rather than regular printer paper.

>>10042272
Why do you list your awards first? I thought the natural flow of a CV was Education -> Previous Work Experience -> Skills -> Additional info (awards and shit)

>>10042576
Agreed. Also lose the high school robotics team shit. If one of the first things you want me to see is from your high school years that is a red flag to me.

>>10042272
These links provide basic resume recommendations and tips. Engineering resumes are a bit different.

https://careercenter.umich.edu/article/resume-resources

https://lsa.umich.edu/opportunityhub/students/opportunity-prep/resume-cover-letter.html

For engineering resume help see this for general tips.
http://career.engin.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2018/08/careerguide.pdf

Or use almost any universities career center

>>10042564
>>10042272
>>10039878

All give helpful advice, especially >>10042564

In Canada an electronics technologist is someone whose skillset lies between a technician and an engineer. They have practical knowledge and some theoretical (but obviously not as much as an engineer). The school that I am going to is accredited and I have been told that companies try to recruit directly out of the school. Do I have any hope of earning a decent living? Completion of this program puts me in advanced standing to return to university (big engi school in my city) for another 2 years to finish the full degree, but I just turned 30 and I don't know if i have the energy anymore. Am I lost?

>>10037283
Fapping

>>10042798
>but I just turned 30 and I don't know if i have the energy anymore
i mean if you don't have the energy that's one thing. but to be clear it's 2018, you got many decades of life left and schooling will only take up a small small fraction of that. you can set yourself up now still for a better life later

>>10042798
if you ever stop learning, improving, or refreshing your skill set you stagnate. and in a technology driven profession, stagnation is death.

remember:

>40 year career

>>10042501
Can I not learn hs physics? It should be doable in a month, shouldn't it?

>>10042501
Can I not learn hs physics? It should be doable in a month, shouldn't it?
I've only heard bad things about pure math from a demand perspective. A wouldn't an EE bsc and then a statistics masters be better?

>>10042501
Okay so I'm a bit sick and I wrote a bunch of shit that makes no sense, so I'll rephrase it. How well is math employable, and which branch (pure/applied) has higher demand and pays more? What could I do with those degrees aside from actuarial sciences?

>>10043086
Applied almost always pays more because it has more short term applications and people will pay you lots of money to solve hard problems for them, especially banks.

Can an anon know where I can download the
IEEE-USA Salary & Benefits Survey Report for free? I tried looking around and can't find it. I'm a student choosing what to start specializing in, and I like all the options that my school offers. I just want to make sure I don't pick one that pays worse than the others.

Can an anon know where I can download the
IEEE-USA Salary & Benefits Survey Report for free? I tried looking around and can't find it. I'm a student choosing what to start specializing in, and I like all the options that my school offers. I just want to make sure I don't pick one that pays worse than the others.

>>10037283
1/2? one in the stink, two in the pink?

>>10037014
Some questions for the industry man.
Do you guys like the people you work with? What are they like?
For those who work in a corporate setting, do you deal with the same shit that the average joe at the bottom has to put up with such as fluff initiatives and feighning enthusiasm about every little thing? How are you reviewed? Do you have to put up with business graduates knit picking your every move ? Is there effeminate drama and passive agreessive cattiness? I work at a corporation as a non engineer and I experience these things every day at at work. I cannot continue this way of life.

>>10043742

>Do you guys like the people you work with? What are they like?
For the most part, I enjoy them. Sometimes they will say something very crude and things can be uncomfortable.
>For those who work in a corporate setting, do you deal with the same shit that the average joe at the bottom has to put up with such as fluff initiatives and feighning enthusiasm about every little thing?
No the work is pretty interesting. Everyone genuinely enjoys their jobs and assignments.
>How are you reviewed?
Monthly check in meetings with manager. Then one final long review at the end of the year.
>Do you have to put up with business graduates knit picking your every move?
No, almost all our managers and business leaders were former engineers.
>Is there effeminate drama and passive agreessive cattiness?
There is one engineer that can be thin skinned at times. They will always apologize afterwards though.

>>10043742
Aerospace engineer here
>Do you guys like the people you work with? What are they like?
Overall, they're pretty cool, but it's hard to generalize. I've got typical dads, boomers, an ex-preacher, a commie, a conspiracy theorist, and /pol/ all within earshot
>For those who work in a corporate setting, do you deal with the same shit that the average joe at the bottom has to put up with such as fluff initiatives and feighning enthusiasm about every little thing?
Maybe a bit, but no one feels any need to hide their distaste for it
>How are you reviewed?
Mid-year and end of year performance review with the manager. However, everyone agrees the current system sucks, so we're moving to a *conversation-based" system next year
>Do you have to put up with business graduates knit picking your every move ?
Technically, all of the managers I know are ex-engineers, but man, some are retarded. Thankfully, were here to let them know how dumb they are
>Is there effeminate drama and passive agreessive cattiness?
Maybe a little bit, since we're all really different (see above) but still have to work together to get thinga done. It's pretty minor, though
>I cannot continue this way of life.
Then just don't work in corporate lmao

>>10043742
>Do you guys like the people you work with? What are they like?
No. It's all a bunch of saccharine sweet smiley glad hands.

>do you deal with the same shit that the average joe at the bottom has to put up with such as fluff initiatives and feighning enthusiasm about every little thing?

no. i get left alone.

> Do you have to put up with business graduates knit picking your every move ?

thankfully no. i have a shit ton of autonomy and pretty much do whatever i want. currently only putting in 20 hours a week.

>drive across the state to go to career fair
>every single booth says to apply online

>professor works at intel
>has phd in EE and CompE
How do I use him to land a job at intel one day? I’ll graduate in 2yrs as an EE.

>not straight up lying on your CV
fucking losers. You don't need to have a 3.0 GPA to have a 3.0 GPA.

>>10044763
You’ll be retarded if you didn’t Anon

>>10044763
Tell him to log on to Circuit and submit your resume with the referral tool.

>>10044798
>not already having a 3.0+ GPA
Only dumbasses need to lie.

>>10044798
Why would you lie about the easiest thing to check on a CV?

>>10044908
because they still don't check it.

>>10037014
ME graduate here.
I fucked up and got 2.8 for my undergrad.
Can I get rid of it with my Masters?
Or PhD?

>>10044941
What kind of shit tier school is going to let you into a masters program with a 2.8 GPA?

>>10044952
Well I got into one and that's all that matters.
I was just wondering if the undergrad GPA will ever become relevant again if I do well in my Masters?

>>10044864
Can i just suck his dick?

>>10044977
No. You need to ask him for a referral. He’d have to have some really high level juice if he could just backdoor HR with your resume. Unless he’s a VP or something, that’s not going to happen.

>>10037014
Why is Systems Engineering a meme?
I'm in applied math and some of my courses on control are in this category, sounds good to me

>>10045057
It's not a meme. There is no such thing as a "meme" degree.
You can be successful at anything so long as you work at it.

>be undergrad, have to pick a "research" topic
>profs in my department make up a list of projects related to their own work
>want to pick like half of them

Is Maple useful outside of University?
Uni offers a free copy of it, along with matlab, but I don't know if it's worth the time to learn it

>>10045865
Don't bother with that leaf shit. Matlab is the standard.

>>10045867
>Excel is the standard.
ftfy

How do I engineer a gf?

>>10045955
$

Where do I research for in demand entry-level jobs?
I'm an EE student. I just want to be comfy at a job where I can work up in.

>>10045871
Excel can't iterate for shit.

>go to career fair today
>super nervous, brand new clothes and folder full of resumes
>talk with eight different companies, things are going well
>fair ends and go to my dorm. I start applying to everything online so I can get interviewed
>get a phone call while doing hw
>HR guy wants to interview me tomorrow
>tomorrow
>my professor has us doing a 3-hour lab and an exam the same day tomorrow
>respectfully decline and cite exam
>HR guy understands, hangs up

Why does this happen?

>>10046037
Why didn't you ask for a different date?

>>10046040
HR said only one interview slot was available

>>10046037
If I was you I would have accepted and then asked the professor to move my exam either earlier or later (if possible earlier out of respect).

>>10045057
Controls engineering and systems engineering are two different things. Controls engineering isn't a meme. Systems Engineering as in a undergrad major devoted to systems integration is a meme. It is better left as a graduate degree.

>>10046072
Funny you should say that, my professor actually acknowledged the bad timing a few weeks ago, but said it wouldn't be moved.

>>10046077
>but said it wouldn't be moved
Then you simply don't get along with your professors. I will be traveling for a week and I will miss two exams. One professor moved her exam to the previous day so I can take it, the other literally just said "Don't worry about it" so I'll just get an A.

Moral of the story: If your professors are not your friends, you are doing college wrong.

>just admitted to a CSU
Nice. Coming from a Community College, I don't know how difficult it is to find classes.
Do you think it's possible to finish in 2 years now that I don't have to worry about gen-ed?

>>10042272
I'm going to be honest, that sounds like total BS. It looks like you rode the coattails of all those projects. I'm not clicking your GitHub,I doubt you reduced weight by 45%, designed tire treads, the autonomous driving system AND came in first. You didn't actually establish vendor relations and you optimized the UAV for what?

Don't get me wrong, it's impressive but I've seen similar where some kid good at MATLAB was involved in some spiffy projects he claimed as his own. Go to any undergrad research symposium to see the plethora of pirated research topics overachieving students write off as independent research because they were a lab assistant to a prof

Pick a few gems and exemplify them, you seem to have plenty

>>10046170
Not a larp. That's why the references are there and why my GPA was only 3.2 from being so busy.

I have a legit serious question, Currently an engineering student, (yet to specialize but leaning towards Civil engineering) At what point should I look for internships or experience, Also, I've yet to do any big projects and most likely won't till 3rd year, but idk.

Any advice?

>>10046963
It's never too early. I started applying my freshman year.

>>10046963
there's no harm in trying to find work experiences as soon as you can.

There's really no potential for loss on your end other than a tiny bit of your time, and there's a ton of value to be gained if you do manage to get in somewhere.

>>10046963
>At what point should I look for internships or experience
Immediately. If you're a freshman, go get some bitchboy job if you can't land a proper internship, so that you can have that experience on your resume for next year's internship applications.

Can you give me some advice please?
I got a 2.8 GPA, solid internships, some work experience and currently doing a Masters.
I'm want to know if my masters GPA can make up for my undergrad.
What do you think?
Please help me.

>>10047218
Just do really well in the masters and put that down as your GPA when applying. Unless you're applying for more grad school, most only care that your undergrad was enough for admission to the masters program.

>>10046972

> tfw you need an internship to get an internship nowadays.

>>10047282
Thank you
A representative for a grad scheme also told me that
I'm not worried about the PhD
I think I can just apply to where I am currently studying
They already accepted me once already

>Finally get a job after searching for 4 months
>its not specifically engineering
oh well

Freshman in college. Got an internship from a CEO of a company that I'm guaranteed for next summer as long as I'm doing well. It's not a co-op. Am I in good standing so far?

>>10047688
Document the fuck out of everything. Pictures, lots of pictures. Make sure to save ALL work you do, especially if it’s some kind of calculation. Also make sure to get a letter of recommendation from Mr. CEO when you are done, with a real ink signature on some nice company letter head. Something to the effect of “Anon is a bright and motivated guy with a talent for blah blah, he’d make an excellent addition to any team”

Do this for 2-3 summers and you will be slapping recruiters off your nuts come graduation time.

Tfw too depressed to even apply for jobs. I don't really have any hope anymore seeing all the anons here with better resumes than mine.

>>10047674
I dropped the engi meme and decided to take up a manager offer at a small company. I only earn 50k/yr but fuck if I care. Commute is <15 min and nothing beats it.

>>10047674
>giving up this easy

>>10047755
You realize you don't NEED to do an Engineering job. You an always apply to other fields, but you got to alter your resume for it.

>>10046963
>Any advice?
Quit while you're ahead.

I'm not joking- change your major immediately.

Anyone do transportation engineering? I hear it's pretty different than other modes of engineering with lots of overlap with geography/urban planning.

>>10047860
I don't even know what I'd apply for other than just tech support IT kinda stuff. I'd rather die than do accounting, desu

>>10048118
>I'd rather die than do accounting, desu

Most engineers who don’t go into actual engineering become ((((cost engineers)))) which is really just glorified accounting. It is the best way to kill your career

I fucking hate interviews, they're the most cancerous shit on the planet. Why the fuck do I have to bullshit to you as to why I want the job you fucking retard, I need it to live, you think anyone actually fucking likes wageslavery?

>>10048223
If you can’t bullshit me, how can I expect you to bullshit the customer?

I work part time at a molecular biology lab yet I'm thinking of majoring in physics. Why do I make these decisions

>neighbor comes over with his son asking for advice about college
>will be the first person in his family to go to college
>tells me he wants to be an aerospace engineer
>knows I studied engineering and asks me for advice
>I'm unemployed
I honestly feel bad for all these kids flooding into engineering. As bad as the job market is now, it's only going to get ten times worse for them. Not a day goes by where I don't see someone shilling STEM careers to impressionable kids.
>but there's such a shortage!!

>>10048676
So if you want good job prospects and salary, where do you go that isn’t being a doctor?

>>10048676
>Be me
>In high school
>"I wanna be an aerospace engineer!"
>Realize 6/10 dudes at my school ALSO want to be aerospace engineers
>Hmmm, better rethink that one.
>Get a molecular biology/biotech degree instead, now work with CRISPR on the edge of developing life saving cures
>Crisis avoided

>>10048676
>>10048725
>40+ would be Aerospace Engineers enter my University with me
>under 7 pass with a degree along with me
>4 actually made it to engineering related profession
>only 1 got to work in Aero related field (not the big names)
>I'm working in IT related shit
Such is life

>>10048676
Most of the kids who go into Engi drop out anyways when they realize they can't set up a basic FBD.

Is finding a job really difficult after earning a Bachelors or is it exagerrated?

>entering junior year in spring
>realize I hate EE
What now?

>>10048913
Why don't you read the thread

>>10048919
Nice sample size.

>>10048926
Fake a resume like>>10037536. Then apply to jobs and tell me how many times you were contacted. Bonus points: Make a fake for John Smith and one for Stacy Smith

>>10048935
It's not fake...

>>10048935
Also here's one of the test articles for the electroplating process.

>>10037014
Ok so, first time posting here, I'm in a country that has a joint Bachelor's and Master's degree, so uni here is 5 years
I'm an E&CE uni student and currently on the 5th year, majoring in computer/network security, have a bunch of experience and good enough connections to probably land a job anywhere
What country do you guys believe has the best perspective as far as security is involved?

>>10045241
There is no such thing as "meme" advice.

>>10037014
How good is the hiring rate as a Electrical engineer in your countries brahs?

railway engineer = free top jobs
get on it boys

>>10050103
Might as well be a merchant marine. Can’t say I wasn’t tempted to do something like that.

>>10050083
Terrible. Should have done CS instead.

>>10050133
N-nice to know

If you could go back in time and re-pick your degree, would you change? If so, what to?

>>10050225
I just would've done better in undergrad so I still had the option of grad school

trying to figure out how to weasel my way into a good school

>>10050271
what would you do at grad school anon?

>>10050301
Something with thermal systems or turbomachinery. Currently working with high purity cryogenic fluids and I'm starting to bottom out on what I can self learn. I've realized I need to go back to school if i really want to be an expert.

>>10050083
Like 97% lol, 99% at my school idgaf

>>10037014
There's no such thing as a meme major. not in the STEM field at least, if you're gender studies you're a meme

I'm thinking of doing ME and EE joint honors at a top school because they don't offer AE. Thoughts?

>>10050507
Most double majors are a waste of time and will get you diminishing returns on your career. Work towards a masters instead. Shit, even a slick personal project has more value to you than yet another undergrad engineering class.

>>10048915
I am in the same boat, mate, except for I am a sophomore. I am considering switching, but am really not sure. For a moment, I thought I would just stick with EE and persevere, despite all the pain and suffering I am already going through (I know that only more is to come). But seeing people such as yourself, realizing the same thing so late into the degree... I just want to let you know that you are not alone with this crap.

>>10048240
I didn't go into engineering so I could fucking do bullshit for you, I just wanted to invent shit.

>>10050083
For my school CompE has ~88% in an engineering field 2 years after graduation

>>10050225
I'd bust my ass off in high school and get into a good business school

>>10050658
Well too fucking bad. As a hiring manager, I need the assurance that I can have you interact with the customer and not sperg the fuck out and lose me business.

Goddamn, you fucking guys do NOT appreciate the professional level at which you are trying to operate. You might have to talk to people who's first language isn't english, you might have to travel more than 30 miles away from your mom and dads house to get a job, you might be required to travel internationally for extended periods of time, you might have to do the job of a businessman/accountant, you might get fuckin' sued and have to stand up for yourself in a court of law. People are going to look at you and take your opinion as the gospel and then hang you out to dry if you are wrong. Take a step back and realize that what you are doing, or what you are attempting to do, is kind of a big deal.

>b-but i just want to be a basement wizard and do repetitive autistic shit all day

You don't need an engineering degree for that.

>>10050688
>btw we'll only pay you $10 above minimum wage lmao

>>10050700
entry level engineering gigs in the US pay between $50-80k. thats well about $20 an hour.

>>10050225
I would've resat my Alevels and tried to get into medicine and became a surgeon

>>10050705
Not when you factor in hours worked.

>>10050721
uh-huh. and you'd have to be working 60+ hours a week for less than 60k a year for that to be true. thats hyperbolic cherry picking.

>>10050748
m8, how many hours a week do you work?

>>10050750
Not him but why would you work more than 50 hours per week for a business you don't own

>>10050768
>implying you have a choice

>>10037322
Yeah differentiation is a walk in the park compared to integration

>>10050750
depends on your perspective. if you mean how many hours am i in the office? less than 40. 8-3 m-th with half days on fridays. but my brain doesn't turn off just because i'm not at work, i have some of my best ideas in the shower or at the bar down the street from my apartment so i guess you could say i'm never not at work.

>>10050507
>le dual major meme
When will this die?

>>10050850
>a hiring manager trying to align his shitty epiphanies with actual other geniuses whose ideas contribute to society
The best idea you’ve ever had was to call out sick so your coworkers wouldn’t have to put up with you, kid. You’re a glorified answering machine

How do I estimate the calibration uncertainty on a micro-scale I'm using if it has no manufacturer data sheet?

It's some no-brand from chyna.

>>10051187
Measure some test masses.

Well /engi/, I have officially tried everything to get a job.

I have two thirds of my degree done, but I'm struggling to find motivation to get through the rest of it. Has anyone had a similar experience or advice?

>>10051277
ya i had a similar experience, it was boring as fuck so i dropped out, but i live in muttland so going back isnt going to happen unless i turn into a single mother

>>10048676
>wanted to be an aerospace engineer
>no moneis for college ):
>got a pilot license
>now literally get payed hundred of thousands of dollars to fly around the world

Working in the Navy? Yay or nay?
A recruiter guy came up to me while I was in the arcade and tried shilling it to me.
Didn't really go to and stay in college just to end up in the military though...

>>10051293
no its fucking stupid, you can work half the hours and make double the money as a fucking custodian.

>>10051289
commercial airliners? god that sounds so cool honestly
like if you had days where you didn't come back to your home airport and just got to hang around in some far away place for a couple days before your next flight day, that would be awesome.

>>10051293
only reason to join the military is for the post-service benefits, namely the GI Bill. if you are already done with college, its worthless. i'd consider coast guard or merchant mariner if you just want a little adventure.

>>10051314
ya its pretty sweet i can listen to podcasts/audio books and read books during majority of the flight and taking off is pretty simple since its always the same. Though sometimes when the weather is really bad i cold sweat like a mother fucker landing.

Too fucking stupid
I'm just too fucking stupid for this

Why
Why did I want to be an engineer
Why couldn't I be actually born smart

I just want to end it all

>>10051359
being a plumber isn't bad. you'll still make good money. you just won't get to wear comfy shoes.

>>10051359
this but more desperate and also crying

>>10051366
I'm crying like a bitch, don't worry

>>10050225
I would try harder in undergrad

>>10051289
>>got a pilot license
How do I get a pilot license?

i fucked up
this is my first year of engineering and i started uni just after i turned 17 (but honestly still had the mind set of a 16 yr old). I didnt take it seriously and was too pumped on the social life to care about grades.
now ive finished my first year and I only have a GPA 5.0 out of 7 (7 is the highest) and even if i get perfect marks for the rest of my degree, ill never have that perfect GPA. what should I do? retake a subject? change unis and "start over"? or network for my life and try and do as many internships as possible to compensate? all of the above? please help me bros

>>10051359
being apart of smart "culture" can help more than being born smart. its mostly about your work ethics and procedures. trust me there are thousands of people born smart that cant be an engineer because they dont have the work ethic for it.. this is something you can do

>>10051581
Are you from Chile

>>10052323
>>10052323
>>10052323
new thread

>>10039643
Because zero current flows to the opamp. The current flows from Va through 1M then Vos though another 1M; a voltage divider.

>>10051359
>be practicing engineer taking grad classes
>tfw this exact feel still hits me every semester