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10012459 No.10012459 [Reply] [Original]

Is this statement scientifically accurate?

>> No.10012469

Any od medbros here looking to get in on that sweet money flow from transition surgeries? Seems Luke a good time.

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>>10012459
yes

>> No.10012474

>>10012459
No.

>> No.10012479

>>10012459
Maybe?

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>>10012470
Yikes @ dat pic

>> No.10012535

>>10012470
>Liquid shit flowing out of a transitioned vagina
I'm halfway between vomit and shock

>> No.10012561

>>10012470
Wish I hadn’t read that.

>> No.10012576

>>10012470
>when you get lied to and get mutilated because people have an ideology to sell
Modern lobotomy, without even the comfort of being braindead

>> No.10012702

>>10012479
This sentence wasn't supposed to end in a question mark. Back to middle school.

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>>10012470

>> No.10012720

>>10012470
N I C E

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A stab wound now counts as a vagina because for these retards it just has to be a hole that can be penetrated.
Oh my fucking God, thinking about this fucks makes me sick. As if it wasn't proof enough this people clearly are mentally ill

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>>10012724
>>10012470
How do these doctors stay licensed? This is literal Frankenstein shit

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>>10012470

Imagine being so selfish that at the end of the entire story you still recommend people go through with it despite having suicide as an option and shit leaking out your new vagina. Then instead of blaming his (oh excuse me, "xirs") own mentally ill ass(vagina) for this mistake, he blames God.

>> No.10012777

>>10012748
Hey man, it's not their fault they are mentally ill. Apparently they have their genes at fault. Or so they claim

>> No.10012780

go back to /b/ or /pol/

no one cares

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>>10012470
>>10012459
Bro, it's totally normal to mutilate your genitalia and then leave a gaping wound as a fuck hole, all the while believing you are the opposite sex.

>>10012780
Low IQer in denial

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>> No.10013010

transgenderism is perhaps the worst human rights violation of all time, it's not even as bad as the old eunuchs of the imperial Chinese system, at least those guys were given a purpose in a comfy place for their whole lives

this is just the greed of sociopathic plastic surgeons running wild

what a time to be alive, this Kali Yuga of ours, the old masters themselves couldn't have predicted it in their wildest nightmares

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>>10012777
>Hey man, it's not their fault they are mentally ill. Apparently they have their genes at fault. Or so they claim.

Some may indeed have a "mental illness" but now it's mainly because they are just purely uneducated retards and don't even understand the implications of what they ask. They do it specifically under the illogical assumption that they were "meant to be the other sex" despite never having led the lifestyle of such nor being born with the biological equipment. They are then told that they can have "their own penis" or "their own vagina" when in reality that is a complete fucking lie told to them by an authority that they appeal to. It's not a "penis", it's your fucking armskin with a hole in that acts like a duct for your mutilated vagina. It's not a "vagina", it is a mutilated penis that has been turned inside out to simulate a hole where a vagina would be.
However, since they have been brought up in a world that told them "no this is actually a penis/vagina and it's yours!", they start to believe it. They are not "mentally ill" they are really just uneducated morons going with the flow of societal norms. The real people with the mental disorders are the people who perform these operations, the people that tell them that it's perfectly acceptable and the people who write laws for society which further enables this insanity. The Hippocratic oath has become the hypocrisy oath.

>>10012470 this is a perfect example. Look at all the people mentioned in this post that support this. His family, his girlfriend, all of these people could have convinced him that this was an illogical choice, but no.


>>10013010
eunuchs were used all around the world, not just china and in most cases they literally had no choice in the matter. The process had to be done at a young age so that the hormones would not take effect later in life. You are right though, they did serve an actual functional purpose rather than just the product of hyper-materialism.

>> No.10013218

>>10013166
Read some neuroscience on transgenderism you brainlet. Get back to your homework kiddo.

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>>10012470
He's right about one thing. If there's a god, he must be a sadist. How else do you explain that this Frankensteinian monster that leaks shit from his mutilated penis is able to get a girlfriend, but a supreme gentleman like myself cannot?

>> No.10013234

go back to /pol/ you closet transgenderfag, confirmed for being exposed to too much onions in utero.

>> No.10013254

>>10013223
The demiurge is real

>> No.10013257

>>10013218
neuroscience is pseudoscience

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>>10012489
>>10012479
>>10012474
>>10012469
>>10012459
Sameweenie

>> No.10013278

>>10013166
I agree with this post. The people who perform these operations, as well as those that sell the drugs that facilitate the process, and use the money they make doing this to live the good life are absolute monsters in every sense of the word.

>> No.10013344

>>10012470
Sounds like a terrible doctor. I honestly feel really sorry for the trans person

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>>10013344

>> No.10013362

>>10013355
Hehe, silly feels guy is grey :)

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>>10013218
You are not your beliefs idiot. Do you have any idea what a "chromosome" is? Probably not because you lack them.

>>10013266
Nice filename you retarded data miner

>>10013272
It's afraid

>>10013278
I hate them all. They mutilate people and claim that they're doing good. How long do you suppose a person can live on such a botched surgery? They permanently destroy the exit point of a waste removing organ and the reproductive ability (unless you freeze your eggs/semen). It is nothing short of legalized castration with the justification of the victim wanting it in the first place.
It is comparable to how a slave commits self-injury in order to avoid doing labor that would eventually kill them anyway. The slave is the tranny, the self-injury is the operation and drones of society telling them it's okay, and the labor is knowledge. Why seek knowledge and appreciate your uniqueness, when you can have troves of attention from retards ready to shower you with affection? All it costs you is a simple organ that you never bothered to care about anyway...because you never learned the truth in the first place.

Stupid and illogical=/=mentally ill
Physically and mentally unable to use your brain right=mentally ill

So what it's gonna be you castration supporters? Are you stupid or unable to be smart? No it's not a distinction without a difference. Oh, and how do you rationalize the parents out there that MAKE their kids go through with this shit right? Does that make the kid mentally ill? No that makes the fucking parents mentally ill. They and the society raised the kid to believe it's better to be x vs y, otherwise they wouldn't have the fucking idea of changing in the first place.

If both sexes are truly "equal" in terms of rights for humans as a whole, then what would changing sex do for you other than fulfill your illogical materialistic desires?

>> No.10013430

>>10012459
No, stop trolling.

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>>10012711
HUY!

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>>10012470
>there is an evil being up there

Not Even Wrong!

>> No.10013483

i wonder if this tranny shit is a crypto eugenics program sometimes

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>>10013483
'crypto'? maybe if you, like the other victims, are too oblivious to see what hides in plain sight

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>>10013272
Oh really? Everyone take note of how they react to reality. These people are the very definition of anti-science.

>> No.10013512

>>10012470
This tranny has a gf and I don't.

>> No.10013519

>>10012470
im honestly on the fence about surgery, but rare complications like this are scary

>inb4 various hateful responses

>> No.10013523

>>10013502
Georgia guide stones proscribed nothing wrong desu

>> No.10013559

>>10013422
nothing about it is rational

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>> No.10013781

>>10013519
yikes cringe

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>>10013505

>> No.10013849

>>10013519
They're not rare.

Don't fucking do it. Every single post-op trans individual I've spoken to regrets it. Some of them will put up an act, like admitting it was a mistake will crush them, but they all fucking hate that they did it.

The technology is just not there yet.

You'll just wind up stuck spending hours of your life dilating, while staring at the unsatisfactory results of flushing your money, time, and all future physical comfort down the drain.

You are more than a bit of flesh between your legs. Continue your hormone therapy. Continue cultivating the you that you need to be comfortable, but stay the hell away from genital surgery.

>> No.10013851

>>10012459
>>this entire thread

back to /pol/

>> No.10013876

>>10012470
fake if true

>> No.10014565

>>10013802
Double (You)’s?

>> No.10014568

Vaginas don't require daily stretching sessions not to grow back, don't have hair inside and are not treated by the organism as a wound

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>>10012470
>he still blames god

>> No.10014736

This medical tragedy or worse made up story is in no way indicative of the trans community and the millions who happily transitioned and are living their life normally as normal human beings.

Please take your toxic bullshit elsewhere and stop scaremongering.

>> No.10014854

>>10014736
Open Wound != Normal

>> No.10015062

>>10012459
Can't change chromosomes. Y is for life.

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>>10014736
ok

>> No.10015256

>>10014736
Stfu dumb cunt

>> No.10015307

>>10012459
He also has a beard growing.
>pick one?

>> No.10015315

>>10014736
> toxic
Read that in a nasal tumblr gay voice lol

>> No.10015454

>>10013802
>>10013218 (You) (You)
>>10012862 (You) (You)

Looks legit

>> No.10015458

>>10013851
>>>this entire thread
>not
>this entire thread
Fuck off newfag

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>>10015123
>there are people in this world right now who a) think this is totally normal and b) encourage people to go through with this surgery

>> No.10015835

In general:

1. Men already have a hole.

2. It's arguably less disgraceful than a pussy.

3. A pussy is functionally just a hole.

4. The "operation" would just turn their unit into a hole anyway.

I feel like unironically "starting with the Greeks" as far as owning one's manhood, and...an other's, would be most successful at ending their affliction.

>> No.10017128

>>10013519
Dont. Dicks are the only reason i like traps

>> No.10017165

>>10013519
Do it do it do it
Become the 60%. Its the fastest method

>> No.10017273

>>10013422
>Physically and mentally unable to use your brain right=mentally ill
and you don't consider a brain that want to change sex a malfunctioning brain?

>> No.10017281

>>10013519
>hateful responses

>> No.10017308

>be me
>oldfag
>upgrading my high school calculus so I can apply to uni and change careers
>tgirl in my class
>voice deeper than mine
>when I talk to xum, zhe looks visibly disturbed
>can see xir entire body trembling
>xor even has an IEP, which is a special permission to have more time to write tests due to psychological/developmental problem
>fee fi fo fum still fails xir tests despite having time and a half

>> No.10017326

>>10015467
The non-trans (read: non-mentally ill) people who advocate for this are sheltered and don't understand (nor care to understand) the details of how liberal policy works out in practice. They live in gated communities inhabited by wealthy and good looking normal people like themselves. As a former drug user, I think it is quite comparable to the people who say "all drugs should be legal because people are smart enough to make the choice of what to put in their own bodies". The people that say this are never the ones who have had to struggle with addiction, or had a family member or friend who became an addict. Nor do they live in the inner cities among the bums, and criminals, and people who literally drove themselves crazy from constantly poisoning their brain with toxic chemicals.

Most people who think gender reassignment surgery is normal amd should be permitted have likely never met a transperson IRL.

>> No.10017336

I don't see what's the problem with human trash sterilising themselves.
The only issue are the open borders, without it, favorising abortion, transgenderism and onions consumption is very good as a selective pressure for healthy future generations.

Hopefully the inferior europeans all sterilise themselves, then the global economic collapse trigger genocide of subhumans, resulting in a golden age for the foreseeable future.

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>>10017273
>and you don't consider a brain that want to change sex a malfunctioning brain?

That's like saying a mouse has a malfunctioning brain for traveling in straight lines in a maze. The "maze" is the environment laid out to the mouse, the mouse didn't create it he only travels in it. When you give a human an environment where trannies are automatically socially acceptable/ a protected class/ talked about as if it were normal, then obviously the humans brain is going to learn that. This is evident because it is now no longer considered a mental illness you see. It is "normal" to be this way, and if you call them out on this (you) are the mentally ill one. Look no further than the very fucking education system itself which harbors these freaks cognitive dissonance and gives them a voice. Speak out against them and you may be looking at an expulsion.
>we will expel you from learning because you're not illogical enough
In a group-think mentality full of retards, the non-retard is actually mentally ill because they don't serve the agenda. So no they don't have a malfunctioning brain, they have a malfunctioning environment that's affecting their brain.

They're stupid, they don't even know why they're stupid and they have no means of understanding a rational standpoint because to them, everyone else not taught that "gender is a spectrum" is wrong and can never be right. This is why I don't give them the benefit of blaming "mental illness", it exonerates the true monsters that made a world where thinking like that is okay.

>> No.10017440

>>10012470
if this is even real why don't these people just keep their dicks
for the love of fucking god, if they want to date straight males, they would be much better off with a dick. I think ironically, straighter leaning guys would prefer dickgirls (dickgirls are very popular ofc) and less straight guys would be open minded and weird enough to agree to fuck an open wound.

what's wrong with dicks anyway
I like them, why do these people want to cut them off

>> No.10017457

>>10012459
He has a gaping and festering wound after genital mutilation. I'd never let my boifu cut it off.
t. gay

>> No.10017497

>>10017415
>where trannies are automatically socially acceptable/ a protected class/ talked about as if it were normal, then obviously the humans brain is going to learn that

this is obviously untrue, trannies aren't a "protected class". obviously becoming a tranny isn't going to open any new doors, since most people think they're weird. to imagine otherwise would be require a grossly flawed understanding of how most people view gender.

obviously this doesn't apply to the people who transitioned because they have gender dysphoria, but either way it's an abnormal condition that should be investigated in a scientific setting and not made into a political spectacle.

>> No.10017511

>>10017497
>to imagine otherwise would be require a grossly flawed understanding of how most people view gender.

and perhaps some people do have such a strange world-view. that would be very unusual for someone who grew up in middle-class america though.

it's not a rational decision any way you try to look at it.

>> No.10017514

or maybe i'm underestimating how well-adjusted my own environment was.

i was a loner and usually the odd one out, but thankfully i managed to keep a somewhat balanced view of things.

>> No.10017522

i've met gay people who were pretty down-to-earth, so i don't think that has much to do with this weird phenomenon of gender dysphoria. it shouldn't be grouped under the same umbrella of lgbtq.

>> No.10017554

>>10015123
>>10012470

Lovecraft could have never imagined such horrors.

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>>10012459
No

>> No.10017617

>>10012459
cant we just give these people morphine or something instead? they probably end up there anyway, so why not skip all the surgery bullshit and just cut to the chase.

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>>10017497
>this is obviously untrue, trannies aren't a "protected class".
Patently False
Obama specifically signed an executive order banning discrimination against LGBT being discriminated against federal employment. This specifically set the precedent of allowing transgendered into military combat roles and in general, lowed the bar for the entire united states armed forces.

>obviously becoming a tranny isn't going to open any new doors
Non-sequitur

>since most people think they're weird. to imagine otherwise would be require a grossly flawed understanding of how most people view gender.
This is the very argument they use to their advantage. This is where the false notion that they are "oppressed" comes from. This oppression is a self-induced psychosis and is the actual mental disorder afflicting them.

>obviously this doesn't apply to the people who transitioned because they have gender dysphoria,
What they "have" is a bunch of idiots telling them that "gender dysphoria" is natural (and a fucking thing) because it also provides them the idea and ability to enact such illogicality.

>but either way it's an abnormal condition that should be investigated in a scientific setting and not made into a political spectacle.
And "science" is the one making their political spectacle even worse than it already is because it promotes this emotional confusion to begin with. Who the fuck do you think is performing the surgeries jackass? Who tells them that "it's okay to believe in a spectrum that has absolutely no basis in reality"? Meta-physicians? Jehovah's dipsticks? Jim Jones with estrogen kool-aid?

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>>10012862
>>10012724
>>10012470
>>10015123
>you'll never be able to help these people

>> No.10017754

>>10017522
They are schizo. You will find stuff on traps being treated with antipsychotic medication.

>> No.10017763

>>10017698

>Obama specifically signed an executive order banning discrimination against LGBT being discriminated against federal employment.

this is nothing. fluff. lip service.

>Non-sequitur

it's self-evident to most well-adjusted people, FYI.

>This is the very argument they use to their advantage. This is where the false notion that they are "oppressed" comes from. This oppression is a self-induced psychosis and is the actual mental disorder afflicting them.

i don't disagree that it's abnormal.

>>10017698
>Who tells them that "it's okay to believe in a spectrum that has absolutely no basis in reality"? Meta-physicians? Jehovah's dipsticks? Jim Jones with estrogen kool-aid?

i don't know. it's hard to understand what would compel someone to transition. it's too strange and irrational for me to simulate in my own mind. i can't think like them. if i had to guess, it might be a special type of OC-spectrum disorder.

>> No.10017768

>>10013519
You know whats not rare as a complication?

suicide.

>> No.10017771

>>10017763
>i don't know. it's hard to understand what would compel someone to transition. it's too strange and irrational for me to simulate in my own mind. i can't think like them. if i had to guess, it might be a special type of OC-spectrum disorder.

cont.

wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be some contaminant in municipal water either. i'm guessing tptb have a pretty good idea of why this is happening, but since we're not talking about it in rational terms, i'm also going to guess that it's probably their fault somehow.

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>>10015454
>>10014565
That's the point you retarded faggots. A screenshot like that is not a proof of anything.

>> No.10017813

>>10013519
It will only lead to regret.

Enjoy your dick.

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>>10017763
>this is nothing. fluff. lip service.

You're an idiot and you have no concept the damage that was done. Go ask any qualified (under the original qualifications) veteran or active duty what they think of having to waste time going through with retarded training courses on "working with women" let alone being burdened with them in the first place. Then you have the pre-op trannies who milk the medicare they get in the military to have their procedures done/hormone drugs and then promptly become absolutely useless because they're emotional wrecks. It was so bad that Trump had to issue another executive order to prevent our armed forces from looking like an episode of one-piece.

then you have 17 states with hate crimes legislation which specifically label transgendered a "protected class". Their words, not my opinion.

>it's self-evident to most well-adjusted people, FYI.

yeah it is self evident that when you change your sex and everyone is forced to believe you're now the opposite sex, you have literally and figuratively opened new doors for yourself. Case in point: restaurant bathroom doors.

>i don't know. it's hard to understand what would compel someone to transition. it's too strange and irrational for me to simulate in my own mind. i can't think like them. if i had to guess, it might be a special type of OC-spectrum disorder.

And despite most of us thinking the same thing, less than 1 percent of the populations illogical thought processes managed to be passed off as normal.

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>>10014736
>Millions

>> No.10017881

>>10017839
>You're an idiot and you have no concept the damage that was done. Go ask any qualified (under the original qualifications) veteran or active duty what they think of having to waste time going through with retarded training courses on "working with women" let alone being burdened with them in the first place.

pardon my ignorance then, i don't know many soldiers. how should i know what kind of crazy things are being put into their minds?

>> No.10018313

How do I stop crossdressing, bros?

>> No.10018367

>>10013519
Please do not do anything to your body that you can't reverse Anon. Keep in mind that the surgery doesn't take your penis off and just replace it with a vagina, it cuts your penis into pieces and rearranges the pieces so that (under the very best case scenario) the thing which results will at the surface level look something within the ballpark like a vagina. Even when a person is injured invasive surgery is not taken lightly, please do not subject yourself to an invasive surgery when physically your body is healthy and functioning.

>> No.10018451

>>10013166
>>10013278
>>10013422
Real people; actually thinking. Shit I'm almost impressed. Hope you live on and help fix this shitparade anons.

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>>10012470
>I have a family and a girlfriend that all love me very much
How can this person get a gf to love him/it while I can't?

>> No.10018497

No it isn't. In fact, nothing about this thread has anything to do with science. That makes it off topic. ;)

>> No.10018594

This is your reminder that no one in this thread has given evidence for anything they said.

>> No.10018635

>>10018594
Look up tranny suicide statistics for all the evidence you need.

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>>10012470

>Letting mentally ill people act out their pathological body dysmorphic delusions

How is this permitted in the 21st century?

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>normal human beings.