/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10004034
>>>/g/67609129

(fake thread, obviously a CS major wouldn't post an image about programmers as if that applied to them)

>>10004060
Wrong , we do calculus.
>>10004085
Well it kinda does apply a bit.

>>10004088
And linear algebra, real analysis, and physics

>>10004088
>Wrong , we do calculus.

reading comprehension nigger, get some

>>10004131
Discrete Math is not real analysis. Not to mention, I hate you.

All real programmers are in machine learning and are therefore statisicians and mathematicians. You guys are just some faggy hybrid of a calculator, a weeaboo, and an actual computer.

>>10004154
One person does not represent the group.

>>10004167
>One person

>>10004183
Assuming that is real it is still a cherry picked case as people who are competent in it dont need to post about it. What is more likely however is that it was a sci false flag.

>>10004034
You are the reason.
You don't need to study computer science to become a programmer. And you don't need to be a good programmer to do computer science.
Computer science is not about programming, yet it's full of retards like >>>/g/67609129.

Maybe it's just envy because they can get easy job theese times

>>10004351
Thats true , I see lots of pure sci people complaining about not being able to find a job unless they have a phd .

>>10004161
Did I say discrete math? You can't even comprehend literal words. How are the compsci guys the brainlets again?

>>10004034
>Why do you hate us guys?
we don't, we luv you

>>10004034
People hate computer science because they can't comprehend the complex train of thought it takes to understand the underlying primal language behind all programming languages. The discipline comes off as easy to them, but once they start getting into the real complexity, they get mind fucked and dismiss it, while going into denial and coping behaviors. Math can be learned by anyone. Computer science requires next level thinking that some people just don't have the capacity to do, probably from bad genetics or "cultural" handicaps (if you know what I mean)

The ones that dismiss computer science without taking any advance level courses believe that programming is mainly comprised of visual basic or Matlab programming as that is their exposure to it. Some might dabble into Java nowadays and think that hello world or simple application level code design is as hard as programming gets.

How about this brainlets, go set up a multi-threaded asynchronous program that can act as both a listen server and client, and have one thread process incoming traffic, another thread process outgoing traffic, and a third thread acting as a heartbeat keep alive thread that maintains the status of the connection and alerts the program when an individual connection has been lost. Do all of this without incurring any deadlock.

If this is simple and takes less than a day to do for the majority who try it, than computer science is for brainlets.

>>10004446
<3 Thank you sciman

>>10004034
You are fat, smell like shit and are socially retarded

>>10004464
Wrong I am :
skinny , shower and am socially able .

>>10004464
and you don't need to act so tsundere for me, cutie

>>10004034

tfw computer engineering student
gonna get memed by both sides

People criticising did a small amount of programming for their degree and think a simple linear script to find the length of their toenails is all there is to it and that any old brainlet can programme. Pic related.

>>10004131
Oooh. Tell me all the other lower division undergraduate math you can do. I bet you can do some differential equations in a spreadsheet too!

>>10005106
lmfao oits actually c""""""s"""""" students who have the dunning fkrueger effec t cause they think they know everything and thatts its 1337 scientsce while they can't do anything past merge sory Xd

>>10004462
>How about this brainlets, go set up a multi-threaded asynchronous program that can act as both a listen server and client, and have one thread process incoming traffic, another thread process outgoing traffic, and a third thread acting as a heartbeat keep alive thread that maintains the status of the connection and alerts the program when an individual connection has been lost. Do all of this without incurring any deadlock.

so... install node.js?

>>10005246
What the fuck is this?

>>10004034
Because of you.

Physishits, Engayneers, Biofags, etc get meme'd all the time too but only CSlets cry about it.

>>10005148
This web developer IS NOT a computer scientist and DOES NOT represent a person with an actual computer science degree.
Reminder that computer science and math are the same thing and a good degree in computer science is basically a double major in pure math and computer science.

>>10004034
>easily scared
fucking lol. I wonder what kind of testing went on to confirm this.

>>10004161
>analysing things that don't exist

That's why we are better than you mathfags.

>>10004464
I am mildly fat, smell like roses and socially retarded.

>>10004186
Spend anytime on /g/ or speak to a CS major. They're all brainlets

>>10005329
Haven't seen a biofag bant for months. Same goes for cuckmists and rEEtards.

>>10005106
>da "anyone talking bad about cs is only talking about programming 101" deflection

every single time

>>10004464
>socially retarded
people often say this about me. However, they do not adequately my deliberate intention to spurn the norm that I think are retarded, and they tell themselves that failing to conform to those norms due to retardation.

>>10004161
>Discrete Math is not real analysis
Numerical analysis is real analysis. I took two semester that were cross-listed as MATH/CS and they were probably my the best 4000 level classes I took in college. I had a really good prof, that probably had something to do with it, but the material and algorithms were totally fascinating too.
>big O notation

>>10004167
>don't blame us for him
>we were trying to flat out ignore you

>>10005357
Who tries to spoiler at /g/ is actually a /v/ crossposter.

>>10005375
>Numerical analysis is real analysis

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

>>10005373
I didn't even study CS, I studied physics

CS as a field is fine. Unless you go to a research school, CS could be a meme in undergrad. I did CS and math double major in undergrad and a physics PhD (shifting interests, but CS is a wonderful subject). A lot of the intuition, math, and skills are transferable

>>10005443
What's an interesting CS topic that it's only taught in grad school?

>easily scared
wat

>>10005461
How to deepthroat Sergei Bryn.

>>10004060
Computer science is all of those things though.

>>10005461
Quantum information and complexity (also taught in the physics departments; either way you’ll need to learn a lot of quantum electronics/optics)
Type theory
Algorithms research of all kinds (this exposes you to math, continuous and discrete, of all kinds)
Distributed algorithms across embedded systems
The list goes on

>>10005461
Quantum information and complexity (also taught in the physics departments; either way you’ll need to learn a lot of quantum electronics/optics)
Complexity theory (everything from Boolean circuit analysis to studying the complexity of black holes)
Computation topology (leads to things like studying protein folding
Type theory
Algorithms research of all kinds (this exposes you to math, continuous and discrete, of all kinds)
Distributed algorithms across embedded systems
The list goes on

>>10005461
real-time systems

>>10004034

Nah, computer scientists are pretty okay. It's scumbags like you and other "comp. scientists" that make you all look so bad.

>>10004034
>Why do you hate us guys?

so other nations can have better cybersecurity.

>>10004060
meme universities get you meme degrees...
serious cs curriculums are 90% formal mathematics, 10% programming. The rest you learn on the job.

>>10005425
/rekt/

>>10004034
I don't hate you, most of my friends are professional computer weirdos. I just hate working with you. You're all fucking insane or dysfunctional or want to take my guns.

>>10007087
Israeli here, I think that's mostly an american (incl canada) problem... All the tranny sjw types, I've seen maybe 1. In tell aviv. wasn't even a dev...

>>10004034
I hate you because you have low unemployment. And my field doesn't.

>>10007152
This is a script from people who think they’re hot shot developers but have no math background. If anything, this is making fun of people who don’t have a math or CS degree

>>10007152
this makes me feel better

I did physics and only learnt a small amount of code, but I still managed to get through programming interviews

>>10007207
Anyone with a modicum of mathematical background (read: anyone who took up to geometry in high school) can do this. It’s that these people are either older guys who gave up on math a long time ago or young adults who hated it from the start. Both of them made basic shit in meme languages and now oversell their value because proper CS jobs (cryptography, research lab work, graphics, EECS crossover, etc) listings have the big bucks

>>10007207
Learning code and learning CS are two different tasks

>>10004034
Because I fucking hate transgender faggots

>>10004034
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/13/17828092/gaming-pc-build-custom-how-to-asus-intel-geforce-cost

>>10006902
see >>10005373

>>10007264
Which is why nobody wants to hire cs monkeys as software engineers.

>>10008422
I mean, CS academics don’t exactly do a PhD to do software engineering.

>>10004995
the mergesort guy is right though

there are already too many programmers out there
what they are doing right now is trying to hire all the cheapo labor and that means women and foreigners
if you're in the US and a WHITE MALE then you'll be fucked when you get out of school
cheap labor is what big business wants that's the secret they don't give a shit about anything else
right now pretending to be pro-women is what they're doing so they get to replace men with women on the cheap
programming gets boring anyway it gets easy as you go along and after a time you could make anything on the computer
then you realize how long that anything would take and you realize you fucked yourself
for instance everyone wants to make a game
games are sold by their art, the programming just supports it so unless you can do all the art like making the models, levels, 2D shit or whatever just go fuck yourself it's not happening
>HEY GUYS IM GUNNA MAKE A NEW GAME
lol famous last words

>>10008471
top brainlet

>>10008476
:(

>>10008475
See >>10007264

>>10008506
dude no one wants someone that just learns CS unless it's in an area that you magically decided to go to grad school for and that is now relevant in the real world
sure you can stay in academia as a CS person but you're going to be the laughing stock of anyone involved in IT be that programmers or not
if you're going to stay in school do something useful instead of CS
most learn CS so they can get a job
that's all you faggots really talk about on here is how much more of a badass you're going to be by how much more money you earn
CS is for faggots end of story

you know you're only in it for the money don't lie

>>10008514

>>10008516
hey do what you want to do I'm just trying to keep you from fucking up your life
I'm being a dick about it but behind my icy messages is the intent to show you that CS is a really, really bad choice for multiple reasons
if you like school a lot you can pick something much more challenging that will have better results for you in the future

it doesn't matter about the whole "omg CS is diff than programming!!1!1" sperg outs you like to have
but I whatever I just remember being on the other side of the table laughing at peoples resumes and trash canning right away any fool that had a PhD in Comp Sci.
Automagic loser status

you can do better and you know it
nut up son

>>10008565
real world XP > school XP always and always
just to finish it off
go ahead and be some undergrad tard about it but you can pick something better
just because you ruined a bunch of your life by spending a ton of time in front of a computer doesn't rationalize making it a full time mistake

>>10008514
>you know you're only in it for the money don't lie

lolwhat

I was a math undergrad and did a CS PhD because I wanted to do computational geometry and topology. I'm now on tenure track at a good school. I didn't get my resume laughed at because I went to a career path where I could do math and science first and make money second. Who the fuck cares about what some brainlet IT guy has to say? If it makes him feel better inbetween fixing windows installations at his local company, he can have a laugh or two.

Don't project the whole
>that's all you faggots really talk about on here is how much more of a badass you're going to be by how much more money you earn
Some people are in it because they actually like it. I get to work on problems from a lot of fields.

>>10008565
>>10008568
you legitimately don't get it. I already did math and picked a CS concentration. I work in a lot of traditional mathematics and some CS. Those who laugh at the chance to study math as permanent staff legitimately don't understand what the CS PhD (or the math PhD) is

>>10008640
>>10008636
do what you want to do if you love the CS and the maths
be prepared to be broke and worrying about money tho
they know what it's about if they've been in the game for a bit believe me
because they might have tried it or been there and done it and now have a family to feed
just remember you're doing basically the same thing a non STEM person is doing, but just happen to be studying something more difficult so you assume that makes you smarter
when people irl w/ families and jobs and not having to worry about money know you're an idiot
Player
Haters
Degree

>>10008659
I'm not broke? Like I said, I'm on the tenure track, which means they pay me pretty well

I don't care about feeling "smarter" as much as I care about being able to conduct research for a living. My girlfriend and I are well off in our house and I get to research for a living? What's the point you're trying to make? Everything you've said is trying to play at some base insecurity like people are laughing at me, but when I've got good friends and a good career, why would that even matter?

>>10008664
naw everyone thinks you're a douche
trust me

>>10004034
SciFags envy us CSs.

>>10008673
Here's your (You)
But I'll bite. Douche in what sense? I do math on blackboards, and occasionally, get contracted to do research on a lab's behalf. Now what part of that is douchebaggery?

>>10008516 >>10008565
> trash canning right away any fool that had a PhD in Comp Sci.

Reminder that Big Companies like Microsoft, Facebook & IBM requires at least a BSc in CS, & throw away resumes of self-taught fags.

Sure a Self taught College Dropout or English Major can get easily a job in some shitty web dev startup.
But I don't see how the level of knowledge of such Self Taught fags can even compare to a competent CS PhD Researcher working at NSA for example.

Fucking code monkey get the fuck out of my field.

>>10008701
Why would you want to work for such a large companies?
If you are really interested in programming, going for corporation will only kill your creativity and passion.

>>10008673
>>10008659
>>10008565
>>10008514
>>10008475
anti-CS shitposting is one thing, but when people start taking it seriously and trying to give out dizzingly incoherent life advice, it gets cringey really quickly. I’m in physics, and my interaction with theoretical CS researchers is important for work. CS has become /sci/‘s quick fix for validation

>>10009492
I hate CS because I dont like how the world revolves around them. They're the only ones who just have to get a degree and then they get a job right out of college with an above average salary

Btw I'm racist

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>>10007129
Does that mean there is an overabundance of those with degrees in non-cs stem fields?

Why is it that the cs job field has high job availability? Is it because there aren't enough people to fill the demand for programmers? Could that mean... That the cs degree is harder than the meme antique degrees?

>>10005443
>did CS and math double major in undergrad and a physics PhD
how is this even possible?????

>>10005461
computer graphics is very underated.

can be extremely complex

Because you people are fucking disgusting. Basic hygiene is not hard.

>>10009507
What do you mean “the world revolves around them?” The world has revolves around anyone who can utilize sciences and mathematics to make other people happy for a while

>>10009569
Field switching is fun. Do well on the physics gre, get some research from your alma mater, and generally be good at upper level math. Never forget they knowledge isn’t barred by a single major, which is why it’s much more valuable to judge people on the merit of their work and less on the merit of their degree alone

>>10009551
CS jobs entail more than programming
A lot of CS jobs are research into exciting topics that nobody has an answer for yet

>>10008636
>computational geometry and topology
tell me more please, this sounds like my dream job

>>10008701
I've worked at IBM and Apple and on every team I've ever been on we've had several self taught programmers both with none cs-degree(Physics, Finance and even Physiology) and even some with nothing more than some MOOCs and some side projects. Getting the interview is the hardest part once you're talking to someone internally then you can easily convince them of your skills.

>>10009887
I think anon was making the case for degree holders vs dropout hobbyists applying for top positions. Obviously if you have any sort of math background and portfolio, they consider you for entry level positions. However, I do see physics majors struggle with the algorithmic basics pretty often, funnily enough, even though companies and undergrad alike separate the complex mathematics from algorithms analysis (which they don’t do in grad school and it feels great)

>>10004034
>Why do you hate us guys?
because people are insecure over their choice of profession and want to bully those who are most valued in the work force at the moment.

>>10010463
This is funny because you are bullying the majors that bully CS, which by your posts means you are insecure and our fields are the most valued at the moment.

>that moment when the CS major doesn't understand recursion

>>10004034
because it represents the STEM singularity, in the sense that we are all code monkeys at the end of the day

CS is basically math++, i.e. a CS graduate is considered elite, capable of mastering in 1 year what math graduates do in 2 years. Deal with it!

World's elite universities will tell you right away that as their CS student you are considered the best group they have and that math students go slower than you are, and increase your load to crazy levels As a CS student, you are expected to master (continuous) calculus, discrete calculus (discrete math proofs, hypercubes for parallel algorithms), optimization (machine/deep learning, compilers), category theory (functional programming), logic (up to automated proofs, i.e. including set theory), differential equations, topology (computational geometry, distributed algorithms), probability and statistics (reinforcement learning, queueing), number theory (cryptology), graph theory (almost everywhere)... There is no functional analysis needed yet, but it's heavily used for PhD degrees anyway. You need to know all this down to the level of proving theorems if you want to achieve anything in CS.

>>10009868
bump

does anyone want to comment on computationnal geometry? How is it?

>>10010489
pointing out the harsh reality that whatever you chose to study isn't being valued as highly as a CS major isn't bullying anon.

>that moment when the person responding to you is so triggered beyond belief, you can't even present them with the real situation at hand.

>>10009868
>>10011317
http://drops.dagstuhl.de/opus/volltexte/2013/4021/pdf/dagrep_v003_i003_p001_s13101.pdf

http://jeffe.cs.illinois.edu/pubs/pdf/surflow.pdf

https://ac.els-cdn.com/0925772195000222/1-s2.0-0925772195000222-main.pdf?_tid=f7611c75-9d74-415f-916a-e96415292a3c&acdnat=1537289701_b3d6063cc431ccc7d591dfccaf271f94

>>10004034
Because you always make threads with questions based on false premises.

>>10004462
I can just google that. You are nothing more than a code monkey from India and a search engine.

>>10012823
thank you anon,
>>10013115 this other anon helped me out as well

>>10004995
>Why the fuck would someone take statistics for artificial intelligence?

>>>/g/67671797

>>10004088
Newton Raphson isn't calculus son

>>10005082
Comp sci student here. You are the bridge between us and electrical engitards

>>10004060

>>10007790
That's like complaining that Lewis Hamilton can't fix your car, even though driving is what he does for a living

>>10008516
>He's about as qualified to do programming, because programming languages are languages. He found it really easy to learn to code because he understands how languages are constructed
What?

>>10015608
Really bad analogy.

>>10010978
>CS is basically math++
aww, that's cute

>>10016367
It's not math++. It's mostly just math. I'm was a math undergrad doing a CS graduate degree, and lemme tell you, advanced algorithms has taken me for an incredibly emotional and intellectual ride. CS is a fine field and it's plenty difficult. It very much deserves to be called a mathematical science

>>10004034
you guys are: arrogant, stupid, greedy, uninterested in physics, bio, med; your scions are disruptive to the economy and society at large; you enable panopticon; most software is badly designed; you overengineer and have destroyed the simplicity of human life; you lie about what AI is and how strong it can become; you lie about organic sysfems, the brain etc and the ability to simulate them; you’re unthinking and don’t display the curiosity of other STEM fields; you’re basically awful as a group unless you have a background in physics or mathematics. Nothing against computers or comp sci, just the field as it is and the industries it feeds.

>>10016519
>implying finding the invariant in the factorial algorithm is impressive
kek lemme tell you bout physics m8 you're just too much a brainlet to handle my super-duper-thin variations of x

praise leibniz notation

>>10013665
jesus christ.
The absolute state of cs students.
Please tell me it's just /sci/ shitposting on /g/

>>10017541
I feel like it mostly is. Unless you aren’t in stem, there’s literally no way you want to do machine learning without knowing it’s stat heavy.

Also there’s a difference between the CS students who are in because of technology trends and those who are in because of math. The latter half do some seriously impressive research, especially on the theory side

>>10016791
It was a graduate course. We did way more than that dude. Also we covered a lot of continuous mathematics and algorithms involving analysis, so I got to use super duper thin x m8

>>10016548
CS academia is fine, and the state of industrial research is fine too. I’ve seen a good amount of CS theory guys do research in physics and quantum information as of late. It really depends on the culture of your school. Just avoid the tech bros for the math geeks

>>10006902
/this. Every part of programming on the RWTH was simply watching some dude programming and explaining while the only practical work was a shit-tier game called Codescape.

t. Former math student

Hope that shit won't be as monotonal in my etech studies. If it will be I gonna programm shit in c on my own. Learning by doing is best learning.

>>10004034
What have this subjects in common?
>Mathematics
>Physics
>Chemistry
>especially CompSci

Answer: They're full of freaky and awkward nerds who lack social contacts and therefore become arrogant or develop an napoleon complex when they're getting a bit coinfident by knowing they're studying le intellectual subjects. They often got a shit humor, shit fashion taste, shit manners and shit personalities. That applies to like 40-60% of all freshmen to some degree and the number grows per semester since most normies who get to see a vagina irl without spending 30 buckos aren't autistic enough for this shot or utterly dislike the atmosphere there.

Only there you can find virgins, hentai wankers, mean bastards and faggots who don't know that you have to apply shampoo only on your hair and not 2-3 feet below.

>>10004161
I'm a CS student and I literally just walked out of an Analysis class. Get your head out of your ass.

>>10017605
Yes C is good to get good to program in. But also try learning matlab or python for high level programming like prototyping algorithms. It's very useful.

>>10009868
It sounds very cool, but focus on getting real good foundation in linear algebra, calculus and probability theory. Everything later on will get much easier if you do.

>>10017675
of course, foundations are important. I'll make sure to follow your advice

>>10004034
Comp Sci students are gigantic faggots. Which is why I double majored in CS and Math so I wouldn't have to be associated with you goddamn losers.

>>10004161
>real analysis distinctly overlaps higher level statistics
>CS regularly applies higher level statistics

I don't know if you're a retard or what. But, please, if you're going to insult idot CS kids please try to not make yourself look like a doofus in the process.

>>10019202
Why major in math and not minor in stats? Make it easier on yourself senpai

>>10019209
>not getting the measure theory of total measure 1 reference

Brainlet confirmed.

>>10004034
God I hate comp sci students so much. I once found one in the physics department and nearly gagged. I had to put him in his place so I asked him some basic questions in thermodynamics. The "thing" then started rambling off the first paragraph of a wikipedia page and I nearly choked. He was THIS much of a brainlet. Naturally I cut him off and stared him down until he started to stutter a little.

Looking into his beautiful teary blue eyes contrast his cheery yet wirey blond hair it became apparent to me that what he REALLY needed was a stern yet loving pounding.

Wait... where was I going with this again?

>>10019468

>>10019468
A-Anon... please do not lewd the CS majors...

>>10019444
Degrees are way too similar. While CS is mostly a new field of math, it’s sufficiently different and wide enough that it encompasses a lot of topics you wouldn’t hit in a traditional mathematics degree (a hard algorithms course as mentioned by some grad students earlier, theoretical CS, etc). This is all assuming you go to a non meme school of course. Regardless, the point still stands for math and stats together

>>10019468
>I asked him a question from a field he doesn’t study
I promise you most undergrads in math alone wouldn’t be able to answer your questions either, since many of them skimp out on any statistical mechanics or physics past basic E&M

That being said this was funny

>>10019595
But it is math
And CS theory can be used to study science. Look at computational topology being used to study meta stable protein folding or complexity theory being used to study black hole behavior

>>10019468
>CS students are good for nothing except as senpais onahole.

>tfw

>>10016519
Is this insecure math and cs dual major larping on every thread?

>>10010978
having course work containing subsets of these topics in no way requires that you be a master of them, I mean I graduated from an industrial engineering undergrad and by your qualifications my cohort should be a master of most of those subjects.

>>10020026
Yeah, he is.

>>10020026
>>10020971
lolno. CS + Math isn't uncommon at all

>>10004034
I don't. If you're passionate about programming, follow your fucking dreams. It's why I'm majoring in math.
However, if you're doing it for the above-average salary and job opportunities despite not being good at it, or God forbid not liking it, I have nothing but contempt for you sheep.

>be 23 and decide to go to comp sci college this October, after working since high school

>ask around the company I was working for, if someone could teach me PLC programming or if they have a course to teach me

>they don't, but the company agrees I can have the main maintainance guy as a mentor, if he decides to help me

>he agrees and says he would be my mentor

>realize PLC is not only about programming logic, but having EE knowledge in general

>I went to comp sci to become software dev or go into finance, HFT trading or quant researcher

>realize our college is heavily math based and going through mathematics with a friend that studies mathematics, he says it's pretty much the same they do

>realize my college is basically math college with programming subjects

>realize I now have to learn mathematics, EE, programming, economy, machine learning and AI in less than 4 years

>also have to fill github with personal projects, luckily already know how to do basic apps and websites

yup, comp sci sure will be fucking fun, luckily I'm not autistic and had women and am social, because I know I'm not having time for pussy or friends for next 4-5 years.

Can't wait for some fucking faggot saying how we don't do math or kids fucking around playing vidya and drinking thinking they will actually pass first 3 months

>>10004060
Can confirm, doing cs, only retards

CS classrooms smell like curry all the time.

>>10022228
>>10022228
>HFT trading or quant researcher
rip lad, that is going to be insane stress if you aren't a natural at math

>>10022228
brainlet

>>10019605
CS is 90% coding and some very basic math classes.

>>10004034
Tech in general are full of disgusting faggots and I fucking hate them
Also, not science or math

>>10022366
It's more of a hobby currently than trying to go into it seriouslly. You know, if everything goes according to plan then okay, but I know it's very unlikely

>>10022374
K

>>10004034
>Why do you hate comp sci students?
I hate everyone, don't take it personally.

>>10017665
Thanks for the advice. Matlab is already on our Schedule and some engineering shit with Lego.

I'm almost done refreshing my math base skills. I had many things missing but I should e fkne in 4-5 days.

Wish me luck boi5

>>10004034
I just hate how they don't care about math or science. In my school the CS is program is part of the engineering school for whatever reason, which means they have the same basic math and physics requirements for engineers. The CStards always complain "waaaah, why do we need to do this, I just want to learn Javascript" and are complete morons in the labs, they ALWAYS fuck up LEDs since they have no idea about physics and think nonesense like Voltage is the same as Current.

>>10022386
lol what. Don't confuse your basic intro to programming class or meme undergrad with actual CS. In academia and research oriented jobs, CS is literally just math