/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12100531
who is funding them?

Wow look at that pretty glowing ball take my money!!!!!!!!

>>12100531
Third options is they have things that look like evidence due to flawed experimental design which would get picked up by peer reviewers.
I work in industry and our work is under NDA so nothing gets peer reviewed (and it's all novel applications of usually not well understood concepts so there'd be limited peer review available anyway). The number of times we've had to go back and redo things (or at least redo the analysis) because we later find out we had incomplete understanding about something is endless.
But that's the cost of creating novel inventions.

>>12100528
Wow I didn’t know base 10 was intrinsic to the universe this is really cool. That’s why we use base 10 right?

>>12100518
>Why assume the Sun has a magical fusion core and magical bouncing light?
What's magical about matter that's compressed and heated to that degree fusing? how can the stuff at the center of a star NOT fuse? We fuse stuff together all the time-it's not magical at allit's routine. Are you reffing how it takes the light emitted at the core of the sun a long time to be emitted? That's certainly surprising but it's not "magical" given the sheer size of the sun and howm uch stuff it contains.
>A lot of things don't add up when it comes to the conventional model of the sun.
The Birkeland model involves an invisible undetectable current of energy coming into the sun from outside across lightyears of space and leaving no traces of its passing. What the FUCK anon, that's clearly bullshit. How does that make any sense at all?

>>12100531
>muh military-educational-industrial complex schooling says it is impossible!

hahaHAHAhahaha You will ind a lot of the things in the Universe don't work the way you have modeled them.

>>12100543
i know he sounds wrong and it sounds crazy because of the way he explains it and the way he is trying to connect the dots, but what he is mapping is something very amazing and simple once you understand it. it's not traditional math. it's mapping space in a way that actually works. once you see what he's actually doing you can't unsee it. trust me, what he figured out here is the exact reason voldswagon's logo looks the way it does, as well as toyota, google, synergy fuel tech, and many more. the way he explains it is a little hokey but it is definitely real. and has been discovered over and over in many ways throughout even ancient history. in fact.... he's trying to map why so many plants and natural phenomena have a vortex shape. have you ever tried to map it? people in greece used to get murdered for simply inquiring about this type of geometry. it's no wonder it seems so radically different and strange to your trained minds. and I mean trained in a negative way.

>>12100548
That’s so true the Greeks also used the base 10 system which is intrinsic to the universe. The retarded Babylonian used a base 60 which is not intrinsic to the universe so this does not work.

>>12100206
>12100206
Wait a second so you are implying that this will produce infinite electricity from nothing ?

>>12100542
I guess. Although I would have thought some of their employees (again, they do seem relatively intelligent) may bring up some of the causes for concern, but then I do recall seeing something about none of the people involved are actual scientists from applicable fields.
>>12100546
I'm not saying the option of it being legit isn't valid, I'm playing devils advocate to try and understand what may be happening there.

>>12100527
>A cult that shamelessly lies to, exploits, and steals from decent people in order to propagate their nonsensical parascientific beliefs
>This is in no way comparable at all

>>12100563
>This is in no way comparable at all
Correct

>Safire
>see glowing ball change power glowing ball changes
That’s it boys we solved fusion. We just needed to make glowing ball it turns out. Who needs papers and all that “peer reviewed science”. We just have pretty videos and boom fusion. They already started making the cad models for the reactors!!!!!!!!!!!! This is so great. I’m sure they will have a working prototype no time!!!!

>>12100543
https://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6

>>12100544
Satellite observations, anon.
If the conventional solar model iscorrect, the core should be hotter. It is not. It actually gets cooler as you approach the surface.

Birkeland currents connect the Earth, why not the sun? There is also other types of cosmic energy to consider.

>>12100566
The only difference between the two is that one counts Hollywood celebrities among its deluded supporters.

>>12100570
Insane base 10 is intrinsic to the universe this article really says it all.

Really wish the 8.chan schizos would fuck off.

>>12100574
>the core should be hotter. It is not. It actually gets cooler as you approach the surface.


What do you mean? Can you post a source?

>>12100558
>I'm playing devils advocate to try and understand what may be happening there.

Many ideas on what could be going on.

I personally believe that every atom is an open system. An electrical transformer. The sun is also an electrical transformer of cosmic energy. Same phenomena at different scales. Who cares what I think? All that matters is reproducibility. We can figure out the theory later.

>>12100582

>>12100518
>if you don't know anything about physics the conventional model of the sun doesn't make sense!

>>12100603
>>if you don't know anything about physics ...blahblahblahblah

Have you even examined the conventional model? Lots of magic tricks contained in it including violating Boyl's law. At least be consistent.

>>12100615
Be specific about it violating Boyle's law.

>>12100592

Sun spots are cooler in temperature.

>>12100615
>Lots of magic tricks contained in it including violating Boyl's law.
Translation - the super simplified model breaks down because shit gets more complicated

>>12100580
Ok, thanks for your input, I'll stop talking to you now

>>12100206
Well, they appear to have too much money and the actual experimental set-up is well-done enough for me to not completely ignore it. Though the most likely explanation is that it's venture capitalist bait to extract money from people with no knowledge of physics by presenting them a collection of half-truths that will never deliver on the "making money" aspect.

Plus it looks cool. Obviously some nonsense applications. Making rare earths seems like a ridiculous idea. All that really matters is > unity energy production and you've fundamentally changed human civilization. Don't do that, and you've just created a glorified fusor. I assume that's what they're working towards, so I'm wishing them the best, but I'm skeptical. Most likely outcome is perpetual delays until investors pull out.

>>12100633
Check out the recent satellite observations from the past 20 years. Plenty of heavy elements such as iron, nickel, and silicon underneath the plasma layers. Should these elements be discounted? Should we assume they are insignificant and disregard the Sun's powerful gravity? Should we throw away logic that would point toward higher abundance of heavy elements at the core? These are the questions that must be asked if you want the truth.

Boyle's law addressed:
http://www.ptep-online.com/2007/PP-08-12.PDF

>>12100651
Satellite Observations:

The Surface Of The Sun

The Surface Of The Sun, The Photosphere And Electrically Driven Solar Flares
https://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/

>>12100307
This is the kind of retard that supports nonsense like EU.
Obviously no formal training in EE or physics.
Cant into elementary math.
Believes himself clever whilst making a gigantic fool of himself.

>>12100678
He is correct.
1 Watt = 1 Joule per second
Sorry, you are the idiot anon. Get professional help.

>>12100678
The constructed consiferance of conjugating co-aligned correlated particles nestled in conjoining shells of ethearial brilliance will usher in a new era of clean energy.

>>12100688
1 watt-second is 1 joule you absolute fucking idiot jesus christ.
Read: >>12100317

>>12100717
You also have to actor in the speed of light and earth's rotation to get the actual joules.

>>12100206
Will gullible retards ever stop posting this autistic pseud project?

My idea is that you guys hand cern ova to plasma physicists. They have more use of this data points.

https://youtu.be/vmVdPgkudC8
EU and SAFIRE btfo

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>12100847
wtf i believe in eu now

>>12100439
lmfao this

>>12100528
This isn't math

>>12100206
>>/schizo/

>>12101742
>>>/schizo/

>>12101749
Dammit

>>12101742
>>>/lgbt/

>>12100206

This is not even funny anymore, they are just pretending to find new shit when its just already 100 year old alien tech as usual.

Fuck the US military and their 100 years ahead mentality